@Denex, Mckren & RichyBlack,

Please, have mercy on I-man, the guy has gone round the bend and he is not himself right now.

I beg you all not to continue to expose his stupidity before he will term it bullying.

@I-man the twister & turner,

The show goes on but be careful to know when the music stops playing.

@Afam

Your vacuous mind hasn't contributed one iota of substance to this topic.Anything beyond peddling inverters at Alaba market is beyond you.Don't you have any articles from mercenaries in your in box? Anyone who doesn't draw wages from the Arab world?

Afam:

@Denex, Mckren & RichyBlack,

Please, have mercy on I-man, the guy has gone round the bend and he is not himself right now.

I beg you all not to continue to expose his stupidity before he will term it bullying.

@I-man the twister & turner,

The show goes on but be careful to know when the music stops playing.

the guy na pure mad-man not I-man

I no just wan put mouth since

I-man

you trained fictionalizer, please prove to me that China is a Dictatorship. Maybe I'll have to start a different thread from this, but anywhichway, I'd like you to tell me what makes China a dictatorship. Or is it simply because they do not bow down to the USA?

Your mind is too narrow. How can people clearly vote their leaders into Government and some bunch of morons thousands of miles away will claim that they are undemocratic? Do you even know the meaning of democracy? It is a system of government installed and operated by the people. It does not mean a system of government approved by the USA.

I-man:

@Afam

Your vacuous mind hasn't contributed one iota of substance to this topic.Anything beyond peddling inverters at Alaba market is beyond you.Don't you have any articles from mercenaries in your in box? Anyone who doesn't draw wages from the Arab world?

Lesson 1

It is better not to contribute to a debate if you are not sure than for you to contribute and show the world how stupid you are.

Lesson 2

Building and selling a product that is in high demand is a better way of earning a living than engaging in online scam.

Lesson 3

Throwing around big words don't make you intelligent, your opinions and views on issues will do a better job.

Enjoy!

oooooooo

So mad-mad I-man na scammer

No wonder him get plenty yahoo contact LOL

Guy make you go find work!!!!!!!!!!!

Afam:

@Denex, Mckren & RichyBlack,

Please, have mercy on I-man, the guy has gone round the bend and he is not himself right now.

I beg you all not to continue to expose his stupidity before he will term it bullying.

@I-man the twister & turner,

The show goes on but be careful to know when the music stops playing.

@Afam,

Leave I-man, let him continue to twist, turn, fumble and wobble!

The American intelligence report has changed nothing fundamental - except that Israel's strategic importance has decreased regarding the Iranian threat. The report establishes that if Iran wants to produce a bomb it can do so, and if it doesn't want to, it won't. This evaluation may have a restraining effect in internal American politics. But in Israeli politics it should cause the opposite reaction, because any weakness in the American approach, which is bound to affect Europe, endangers Israel

The sound of disappointment from Bolton, Senator Lieberman, Dick Cheney, and some elements in Israel cannot be overlooked.

denex:

I-man

you trained fictionalizer, please prove to me that China is a Dictatorship. Maybe I'll have to start a different thread from this, but anywhichway, I'd like you to tell me what makes China a dictatorship. Or is it simply because they do not bow down to the USA?

Your mind is too narrow. How can people clearly vote their leaders into Government and some bunch of morons thousands of miles away will claim that they are undemocratic? Do you even know the meaning of democracy? It is a system of government installed and operated by the people. It does not mean a system of government approved by the USA.

Do you sincerely believe that the people of China freely elect their leaders? Every country on earth conducts elections,every single nation state holds elections but the mere holding of elections doesn't make a country a democracy.

To debate this issue with someone who has a patently dysfunctional intellect as you do will be pointless.

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@Seun,

That was hilarious!

The Bush-Cheney cabal would do anything to push their agenda of enriching defense companies and contractors.

Can't wait till 01/20/2009.

The NIE Report:The complete and original copy

Dear Mr. President,

We are honored to present you with the latest National Intelligence Estimate, dealing with the satellite sighting referred to in our previous Intelligence Memo (IM) #3267.

Respectfully,

(redacted)

NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE #765 – EYES ONLY

This NIE reflects the consensus of 16 intelligence agencies, although we can't remember the names of all of them.

Please note the following definitions used in this report:

SLAM-DUNK CONFIDENCE – We have at least two facts to back up the opinions we already had.

SO-SO CONFIDENCE – We have only one fact, or an almost-fact, to back up our opinions, but if we're wrong we can say we had only so-so confidence, so it's good cover.

ITSY BITSY CONFIDENCE – We don't know anything about it, but we know what we want to push you to do.


OVERALL SUBJECT:

On 1 April, 2007, 1541 hours local time, an animate object was observed by satellite as it moved slowly through an area near the Iranian nuclear enrichment plant at Natanz. It looked like a duck, walked like a duck, ate like a duck, and, as revealed by enhanced sound surveillance (ESS), quacked like a duck.

KEY JUDGMENTS:

We judge with SLAM-DUNK CONFIDENCE that it's not a duck.

We assess with SLAM-DUNK CONFIDENCE that Iran suspended the breeding of ducks in 2003, in response to a complaint by a grandma that ducks were mussing her flowers.

We judge that this demonstrates that Iran is pragmatic, and sensitive to pressure from national and international interests. We assess with SO-SO CONFIDENCE that Iran did a cost-benefit analysis before suspending duck breeding, and determined that the presence and utility of ducks did not outweigh the concerns of grandmas.


Source:http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg2MDY3NWZiNTAxZTgzMGYzNjMzZGExOGM5ZmQ0OGU=

The same British spy chiefs who misled the world with their 45 minutes claim (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A15697-2004Feb28?language=printer) about Iraq?

Make we hear word abeg!

1. Iran's current nuclear program is for peaceful purposes!
2. Iran has every right to nuclear technology!
3. Mere suspicion can NEVER be grounds to prevent Iran from exercising its right!
4. Knowledge can NEVER be restricted in the two dimensions that matter - time and space. With time ALL HUMAN KNOWLEDGE will be known, and ALL who seek it will get it!
5. What Baba God could not or did not do, that's what mere humans like some idiotic Americans are trying to accomplish - the restriction of knowledge in time and space from those who seek it.

Oh dear!!!!!!!!!!!

I think say na President Bush plan the NIE release, now e don become say na Iran hoodwink CIA??

By the way why people wey get nuclear bomb dey blackmail Iran for developing nuclear technology?

RichyBlacK:

The same British spy chiefs who misled the world with their 45 minutes claim (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A15697-2004Feb28?language=printer) about Iraq?

This is an example of your warped logic.If the fact the British intelligence has "misled" the world before undermines their claims,that equally applies to the new claims of the US intelligence services. So neither can be trusted either way.In effect,you believe any intelligence report which says anything that aligns with your world view.

2. Iran has every right to nuclear technology!
3. Mere suspicion can NEVER be grounds to prevent Iran from exercising its right!

Stop being an ignoramus.Iran's NPT obligations require it to enable full and unhindered monitoring of its nuclear projects,an obligation,which even the IAEA,hardly a minion of Bush,asserts that Iran is yet to comply with.Until it does,it will always operate under a cloud of suspicion.

4. Knowledge can NEVER be restricted in the two dimensions that matter - time and space. With time ALL HUMAN KNOWLEDGE will be known, and ALL who seek it will get it!
5. What Baba God could not or did not do, that's what mere humans like some idiotic Americans are trying to accomplish - the restriction of knowledge in time and space from those who seek it.

Your usual windy drivel.

I-man:

This is an example of your warped logic.If the fact the British intelligence has "misled" the world before undermines their claims,that equally applies to the new claims of the US intelligence services. So neither can be trusted either way.In effect,you believe any intelligence report which says anything that aligns with your world view.

So all Western intelligence amount to nought! Away with all of them!

Stop being an ignoramus.Iran's NPT obligations require it to enable full and unhindered monitoring of its nuclear projects,an obligation,which even the IAEA,hardly a minion of Bush,asserts that Iran is yet to comply with.Until it does,it will always operate under a cloud of suspicion.

I will forgive the insult - just for now. I did not insult you, so try to make your points without insults. If you insult me again, I'll take it to the next level with you. You've been warned!

Iran has always made the details of its program accessible to the IAEA. However, the West keeps putting pressure on the UN nuclear watch dog to make Iran look bad. Iran has not restricted inspections and have been open about each step of its program. The problem is that the West can't deal with the fact that a nation that is not one of their subjects is bold enough to talk about having a nuclear program, even if for peaceful purposes.

Your usual windy drivel.

Knowledge cannot be restricted. No matter what Bush and his cabal of death do.

Iran has always made the details of its program accessible to the IAEA. However, the West keeps putting pressure on the UN nuclear watch dog to make Iran look bad. Iran has not restricted inspections and have been open about each step of its program. The problem is that the West can't deal with the fact that a nation that is not one of their subjects is bold enough to talk about having a nuclear program, even if for peaceful purposes.

This is where you irritate me.That Iran has not fully complied with its NPT obligations,is a matter which is well known and has been frequently noted by the IAEA.Look at the facility at Natanz.It was only when an opposition group revealed it in 2002,that the world knew it was a nuclear facility.

Why hide things when you have nothing to hide.Iran voluntarily signed the NPT,it has to fully comply with it and not play cat and mouse games with the IAEA

RichyBlacK:

I will forgive the insult - just for now. I did not insult you, so try to make your points without insults. If you insult me again, I'll take it to the next level with you. You've been warned!

Anu ofia

@I-man,

You can see that the IAEA says Iran is cooperating, though not proactively.

I would not expect any country to be proactive in cooperating with a body like the IAEA that is heavily influenced (to the detriment of Iran) by the West.

How proactive has the US or Israel been in cooperating with IAEA? Will they even allow the IAEA inspect their nuclear facilities?

Please stop spreading lies against Iran.

Iran need not be proactive, it should in fact be reactive.

What of nations that are neither proactive nor reactive as regards nuclear weapons that they build as they like - Israel, India & Pakistan, these nations refused to even recognize the NPT talk less of signing it.

What of those that have actively developed nuclear weapons - US, Britain, France, Chine, Russia?

Make them go siddon for dirty.

Afam:

Iran need not be proactive, it should in fact be reactive.

The NPT requires each signatory to be pro-active.

Afam:

What of nations that are neither proactive nor reactive as regards nuclear weapons that they build as they like - Israel, India & Pakistan, these nations refused to even recognize the NPT talk less of signing it.

If you voluntarily enter into an agreement,you have to abide by your agreement and not point to people who are not parties to the agreement. This is pure common sense

What of those that have actively developed nuclear weapons - US, Britain, France, Chine, Russia?

They developed theirs prior to the NPT and have a special status under the NPT.

RichyBlacK:

@I-man,
You can see that the IAEA says Iran is cooperating, though not proactively.
I would not expect any country to be proactive in cooperating with a body like the IAEA that is heavily influenced (to the detriment of Iran) by the West.

How proactive has the US or Israel been in cooperating with IAEA? Will they even allow the IAEA inspect their nuclear facilities?

Please stop spreading lies against Iran.

You are a guff merchant.

To try to absolve Iran on grounds that "its cooperating,though not proactively",is an absurdly clumsy attempt at semantics.The NPT requires proactive cooperation otherwise it would become a worthless piece of paper.

A classic example is the Natanz question.Iran never notified the IAEA that this was a nuclear plant,however,once an opposition group exposed this,Iran allowed the IAEA to inspect it. Iran was under an obligation to notify the IAEA ab initio,not wait till it was caught before cooperating.

Your allusion to Israel and the US exposes your monumental ignorance of the core issue-you are not bound to do what you are not bound to do.You can keep copying and pasting articles off the net,your posts are a case study of an inverted pyramid of piffle.You start with a conclusion and try to mold your "facts",actually a load of piffle, into the initial conclusion.

Iran could have simply exercised the option not to enter into the NPT.That it was entitled to do,it chose not to but instead, to utilise the advantages of being a NPT signatory while playing hide and seek with the IAEA.

PS:Interesting article:http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110011011

I-man:


You are a guff merchant.

To try to absolve Iran on grounds that "its cooperating,though not proactively",is an absurdly clumsy attempt at semantics.The NPT requires proactive cooperation otherwise it would become a worthless piece of paper.

A classic example is the Natanz question.Iran never notified the IAEA that this was a nuclear plant,however,once an opposition group exposed this,Iran allowed the IAEA to inspect it. Iran was under an obligation to notify the IAEA ab initio,not wait till it was caught before cooperating.

Your allusion to Israel and the US exposes your monumental ignorance of the core issue-you are not bound to do what you are not bound to do.You can keep copying and pasting articles off the net,your posts are a case study of an inverted pyramid of piffle.You start with a conclusion and try to mold your "facts",actually a load of piffle, into the initial conclusion.

Iran could have simply exercised the option not to enter into the NPT.That it was entitled to do,it chose not to but instead, to utilise the advantages of being a NPT signatory while playing hide and seek with the IAEA.

PS:Interesting article:http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110011011

I-man or, better still, I-fool:
I now know without a doubt that you're one of the most stupid imbeciles on Nairaland. Mumu like you, aren't you aware that the US is a signatory to the NPT? Does it pro-actively cooperate with the IAEA? Israel is not a signatory because it has a made a self-assessment and concluded that it (Israel) will not be able to keep to the terms - what do you expect from a nation that still practices apartheid? Israel's secret nuclear program is only secret to some fools in the Knesset. What did the evil government of Israel do to Mordechai Vanunu, who exposed Israel's nuclear program? Nonsense! You turn away your glaucoma-infested eyes from Israel's nuclear program but want Iran to pro-actively cooperate with the US-influenced IAEA. Idiot! No sanction, no amount of threat from the zombie called George W. Bush, nothing will stop Iran from achieving its goal of building nuclear power plants for peaceful purposes. And if Iran chooses to extend her program to nuclear weapons, so be it! After all, rogue states like Israel have secretly developed nuclear weapons, then why can't peaceful countries like Iran have nuclear weapons to defend themselves from countries run by thugs - Israel and the United States. Rubbish!

RichyBlacK:

Bush backs move by Russia to send uranium to Iran

By James Blitz in London
Published: December 18 2007 02:00 | Last updated: December 18 2007 02:00

George W. Bush, US president, last night backed Russia's decision to supply Iran with its first consignment of nuclear fuel for a civilian power reactor, arguing that the move meant the Iranians no longer needed to enrich uranium themselves.

Does he have any other option? Sanction Russia?

Russia WILL continue to support Iran in her bid to join the nuclear club. Unlike Israel, that had to hide, cheat, lie, torture, and imprison its way to the nuclear table, Iran will get there in the full glare of Western bullies. Strong support and encouragement from the East - China and Russia, will prevent the megalomaniacs in the current White House from doing all but support the ongoing revolution!

RichyBlacK:

I-man or, better still, I-fool:
I now know without a doubt that you're one of the most stupid imbeciles on Nairaland. Mumu like you, aren't you aware that the US is a signatory to the NPT?

I guess this is why many Nigerian graduates are called "half-baked graduates" How could the US have a special status under the NPT if they were not party to it?

I-man:

They developed theirs prior to the NPT and have a special status under the NPT.

Is the US in breach of its NPT obligations?No Not even Iran has attacked the US for breaching NPT obligations

Is Iran in breach? Yes. The IAEA has confirmed this.

Only a phenomenally stupid person can question Israel's co-operation with the IAEA.It has no obligation to the IAEA under the NPT.Also,the US,alongside the other 4 permanent members of the UNSC enjoys a special status under the NPT. Its like ranting about a goalkeeper picking up the ball,in the 18, with his hands from a header while bemoaning the fact that other players aren't so allowed. . . . . . .its an intoxicating combination of ignorance and idiocy.What next? Why is Israel and the US not co-operating with G-Unit?