Ayomivic: Asalam alaikun
pls i have two questions i will like to ask in this section and i will be happy if answer is given.

I want to know if Muslims believe they are worshiping the same God that Christians worshiping.That is to say if Allah is thesame as Yaweh

secondly, i want to know if there is verse in Quran where Allah refers to himself as Allah. If there is, pls quote the verse or surah.
Thanks

tbaba1234:

Hi.

1. If yahweh is the name of the creator of the unique, indivisible creator of the heavens and the earth, Then yes they are the same thing. To Allah belongs many beautiful names.

2. Say, ‘He is Allah the One, 2 Allah the eternal. 3 He begot no one nor
was He begotten. 4 No one is comparable to Him.’ (Surah 112)

tbaba1234:

Hi.

1. If yahweh is the name of the creator of the unique, indivisible creator of the heavens and the earth, Then yes they are the same thing. To Allah belongs many beautiful names.

2. Say, ‘He is Allah the One, 2 Allah the eternal. 3 He begot no one nor
was He begotten. 4 No one is comparable to Him.’ (Surah 112)

LagosShia: What is His Name? His Name is ALLAH (EVEN IN THE BIBLE)!!!

See below for evidence:Allah appears in the Bible and the tetragrammaton from which the pressumed word "Jehovah" is formed also appears in the Quran.

http://www.institutealislam.com/what-is-his-name-by-sheikh-ahmed-deedat/

LagosShia: "Jehovah" is a pressumption from the tetgrammaton or "four letters" (YHWH) by injecting vowels.those four letters are not articulated.also,if you search deep you will know that the tetgrammaton (YHWH) is not a word but an adjective phrase refering/describing the uniqueness to/of the One Almighty God who is Unseen.YHWH refers to "He that is Present" or "Oh He (who is)" in literal arabic and hebrew.the tetragrammaton can also be found in the Holy Quran in several places by the phrase "Qul HoWaH Allahu" which means "Say He is Allahu"!

the prefix,"YA" is an exclamation in semitic languages meaning "Oh".if you add "Ya" to "HoWaH" it becomes "YaHoWaH" (YHWH).

"HoWaH"="He is"!


so YaHoWah = "Oh He (who is)".

what hapens is simply injecting vowels into the letters (YHWH) in order to make the letters pronounceable.

"Jehovah" is a pressumption from the tetgrammaton or "four letters" (YHWH) by injecting vowels.those four letters are not articulated.also,if you search deep you will know that the tetgrammaton (YHWH) is not a word but an adjective phrase refering/describing the uniqueness to/of the One Almighty God who is Unseen.YHWH refers to "He that is Present" or "Oh He (who is)" in literal arabic and hebrew.the tetragrammaton can also be found in the Holy Quran in several places by the phrase "Qul HoWaHAllahu" which means "Say He is Allahu"!

the prefix,"YA" is an exclamation in semitic languages meaning "Oh".if you add "Ya" to "HoWaH" it becomes "YaHoWaH" (YHWH).

"HoWaH"="He is"!


so YaHoWah="Oh He (who is)".

what hapens is simply injecting vowels into the letters (YHWH) in order to make the letters pronounceable.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-753786.0.html#msg9125070

RWilliams:


[size=18pt]The truth is we don’t know the true pronunciation,[/size] but Jehovah has for many years been the anglicized pronunciation of the divine name, as are Jesus, Joshua and countless other Hebrew names that no one raises a question about .

proo212: All this somersault just to link Jehovah and Allah when they are clearly not the same deity!!!

Clearly one is true and one is false.

Jehovah said, this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Allah says he does not beget nor is he begotten. Who is the true and the living God? If Jehovah and Allah are the same, then that means there is no God but Jehovah and Jesus Christ is His Son. There should be no discussion about this.

If Jehovah and Allah are the same, the Saudis should allow me to worship him the way the Spirit leads. If Jehovah and Allah are the same, Asia Bibi should be a free woman. If they are the same deity, the pact of Omar should not be in existence.

proo212: Lagosshia,

You and I know the 2 are separate entities. One cannot say He watches his word and hastens it to come to pass and one says he gives a revelation and then gives another one to cancel what he gave before (Abrogation).

One hates unbelievers and one loves the world the He gave himself as a ransom so many can be saved.

One says He gives assurance of salvation and eternal life, one says all of us have to go to Hell first and then some will be plucked out from there and go to paradise.

One is clearly true and one is clearly false. Which one is it?

There is no way Jehovah and Allah are the same deity.

LagosShia:

but why shouldn't "jehovah's organization",the watchtower,which claims a direct telephone line to Jehovah,with countless endtime prophecies both that have come NOT to pass and the remaining ones they are hanging around the necks of witnesses with the fear of armageddon (intimidation),their obligatory order for every witness to preach door to door with official record keeping of the number of hours preached,and their claim to be the "only true religion",cannot reveal the true pronunciation of God's "name"?that is the same "name" they bluff about and use to convert others,when infact they themselves do not know the correct pronunciation.so much for confusion and deception and tricks.the jews themselves who own the hebrew language in which the 4 letters appear have decided not to give themselves headache with its pronunciation while "jehovah's witnesses" have made a religion out of 4 letters they themselves cannot pronounce correctly and at the same time claim to be the only "true religion" with contact with Jehovah.how is that possible?are we not talking about a man-made imagination formed into a religion here?

why keep playing the game of try and error with God's "name" by injecting vowels into a four letter word and end up rendering it into different words? is that not confusion?

as for the names of Jesus and Joshua,the only difference is the "J" and the "Y".the europeans have a taste for making the "Y" into a "J".aside from that their names are neither obscure nor confused with so many words or rendered into so many words and not knowing which one is the right one to pronounce.

tbaba1234: The whole Quran is authored by Allah. It is the speech of Allah

I am Allah; there is no god but Me. So worship Me and keep up the prayer so that you remember Me. (Surah 20:14)

You partially answer my question. Pls what is the meaning of Allah?

tbaba1234: The whole Quran is authored by Allah. It is the speech of Allah

I am Allah; there is no god but Me. So worship Me and keep up the prayer so that you remember Me. (Surah 20:14)

Ayomivic:
I have read all your posts but nor of it answer my question. I was'nt ask you the true name of God, i did not ask whether the Jeohvah witness are right or wrong, i did not ask you the meaning of yahweh nor the pronouciation of it.
We all know that gods is General names of deities but we used "God" (capital "G" to clearify that we are refering to monothesit.This word 'god' can be said in different languages but mean the same thing .For instance Olorun in Yoruba is the same to god in English. Pagans also call their deities gods.
Apart from this general name,they must still call him the real name they gave hin or he give to him self,example Ogun you know some Yorubas know Ogun to be god but his real name is Ogun either they gave it to him or he gave it to himself.
We know Allah to be God. Do the word Allah have the same meaning as general god? Or its a name given to himself as God of Bible or Isreal gave himself JEHOVAH and El- SHADDAI or Somebody gave him, as Hagar gave him EL-ROI.Genesis 16:13
All i need is for you to say, he called himself Allah or Allah is arab meanig of the God or he was called Allah by someone and quote a verse to support your answer, simple.

tintingz: to clear you... Illah is plural (god or gods) while Allah is singular(God) and in the Quran Allah call himself many names

"He is Allah (God), the Creator, the Originator, The Fashioner, to Him belong the most beautiful names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, do declare His praises and Glory. And He is the Exalted in Might, The Wise. Quran 59:24
e.g Ar-Rahmaan(The Compassionate, The Beneficent, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers and the blasphemers in this world and especially for the believers in the hereafter)
Ar-Raheem(The Merciful, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers)
Al-Malik(The King, The Sovereign Lord, The One with the complete Dominion, the One Whose Dominion is clear from imperfection)
As-Salaam(The Source of Peace, The One who is free from every imperfection)
Al-Azeez(The Mighty, The Strong, The Defeater who is not defeated)
i can't start naming his names buh this ones i giv out should open your brain who Allah[swt] truly his mind you God is not a baby papa that has kids, son, wife, grand children NO! GOD is almighty he has no father nor mother he was not begoten or begot a baby and grown up to become son a god, God is one on his throne

LagosShia:
correction:
Ilah (god with small 'g'-which can be any 'god') is also SINGULAR and not plural.
the plural of 'Ilah' is ALIHA which translates to 'gods' with small 'g' again refering to any or many 'gods'.
'Allah' as earlier explained in both name and meaning refers to 'The-One-God' who is Supreme Almighty Unseen Unique One Creator.
correct!

proo212: So Lagosshia tbaba1234 and tintingz,

If Allah and Jehovah are the same, are we saying that Allah is the God of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob and Mohammed and myself?

LagosShia: ^

the name "Allah" is unique in arabic.it is neither a masculine noun nor a feminine.i have earlier presented you verses from the Holy Quran where He calls Himself 'Allah' and also He orders us to call Him 'Allah'.

as for the origin of the word itself'what is clear is that in semitic languages (arabic and hebrew and their aramaic mother language) 'EL' or 'Al'ia the root for the word 'Allah" or 'Elah' or 'Alah' (as it once appeared in the bible but was later on expunged).we thus read in the bible that when Jesus (as) was allegedly placed on the cross,he exclaimed: "Elah Lima Sabahtani".we also hear the christians exclaiming :"Alleluya".'Al' or 'El' is the root here and it refers to the Unique One Supreme Almighty Unseen Creator of all and everything.'Al-Lah' ('the-One-God') points out to that Unique One Supreme Almighty Unseen Creator in both meaning and name.

i hope this helps.if any question,please ask further.

Ayomivic:
It surely help but i did not see where God called himself Allah from the verses you said you presented. As you can see that the pronoun ("He" used by the speaker in those quoted verses was second person singular. The spreaker refered to him as Allah there, not that he says iam Allah. Hope that one is cleared?

Your explanation to the meaning of Allah was cleared. I have read the corrections you made too. Now, i can see that Allah is (God) illah and Aliah (are/ is pagans god or gods). Can we say that anybody that is call or name Aliah, her name means gods ?

Also, we all know that Muhammad's father was pagan,he worshiped one of idols that was inside kahabah then.The name of Muhammed's father was Abdul-lah or Abdul-lahi which mean SLAVE OF GOD since Al+Lah mean the-one-God according to your equation . Correct me if am wrong. If iam right,does it mean the people of Mecca had been worshiping one God before the time of Mohammed ?

Further more, it was known that, about 360 Idols were inside the Kahabah before the commencemet of Islam. Can we say that the Idols inside the kahabah were minimized to one know as Allah and rank so that,they can make it one and equivalent to Jew's God ?

Iam not assuming this, the reason i said this is that,Muslims all over the word still bow down toward this Kahabah five times a day to worship. Muslims (unlike Christians and Jews) can not face any direction to worship except this direction. Some went to Mecca, clad in white and went round the Kahabah seven good times.What make Muslims different to pagans? Does God resides inside Kahabah or God throne in heaven is upon the Kahabah ?

All the above reasons, are parts of what makes Christians God differents to Muslims Allah.

proo212: Lagosshia, you know this had to come

Book 041, Number 6985:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

Explain this.....

Ayomivic, this has been asked numerous times and a vague explanation is always given..

proo212: Lagosshia, but this is false now. The battle of Armageddon is the battle between the Antichrist and Christ. AFTER THE RAPTURE has taken place and the antichrist has ruled. This has nothing to do with church denomination or sect believing it only will be saved and definitely you cannot liken it to that hadith that you agree with by the way.

So please try and spin something else. Once again, you are caught out.

But you agree that your Prophet said it. Why would Jehovah and Allah ask the Muslims to kill the Jews?