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Sybellah: anytime bro
and the love is shared, i love naija too
next time, i ll be askin u questions about Naija cuz now gotta run
stay tuned and enjoy yo day

Sybellah: I have seen it online, i ll look again for the source and post it for u

Senoufo and Mandinkas are not the same oo, Senoufo are Gur speaking, Mandinka are Northern Mandes
The Senoufo have been invaded by the Mandinka and many converted to islam. Today many senoufos have the same last names as mandinka, but to make the difference u should look at their 1st name. U see Yaya and Kolo toure for example, well Yaya is a muslim name, mandinkas use muslim or corrupted muslim 1st names, with mandinka last name. But Yaya Toure's 1st name is Gnegneri (Yaya is his muslim name), which is Senoufo, Kolo is also a senoufo name (his muslim name is Habib), and Toure is a Mandinka last name.
Some Senoufo kept their last names tho: Soro, Sekongo, Yeo, Kigbafori, Fologo,Gbon...

Sybellah

yup maaaan for the Akan i am so confuseeed! Some sources say they were originally in CIV, migrated to Ghana, then some came back to CIV,
looking at it, except for the Baoule, i ain't even sure that the other migrated.
The Senoufo as well are originally from CIV and some migrated north to Mali and Burkina, their location were more in the south but they have been pushed back to the north by the Baoule migration as well. Also Kru from Lib claim to have migrated from CIV. And most CIV mandikas come from Guinea or Mali. With Burkina we share more the Lobi and Senoufo. There are mandinka in Burkina as well but i believe them too migrated from Mali.

The tchokosi are the descendant of Baoule/Agni and Mandinka. They are a mix of these 2 cultures. Their language sounds akan, but they are usually muslim. They are located in the north of Togo.

Sybellah: yea i think u right i have never looked at it from this angle
this plus past migration explain it all, but there are CIV people as well that migrated to other countries like ghana and togo as well like the tchokosi for example

Sybellah: The Gouro are one of the oldest pple in CIV, they are supposed to be south mande (but their similarities with some Bhete groups are important). They are located in the center between the Baoule (east), Bete (west), Mandinka (north). Before that they used to be in the east but were pushed back to the west when the Baoule migrated. They are well known for their mask and dances...

Sybellah: maybe, and the reverse is possible we dunno but i wish more study could be conducted on it tho, cuz i think at the core, many ethnic groups are the same, but separated through time due to quarrels and stuff
seriously i think looks in CIV overlaps with most countries in West Africa

Sybellah: Yea i dun think the differences are that much except for the languages, it's west africa na
These are mostly Akan names, except for Kalou which is Gouro

Sybellah: Yea i dun think the differences are that much except for the languages, it's west africa na
These are mostly Akan names, except for Kalou which is Gouro

Sybellah: Meleke I think is Guere (Khran in Lib), I know a few nigerian names, that we find in CIV as well, but there are not necessarily kru names: Adou (Adu), Adouba, Yagba, Agbo, Kalou...

Sybellah: aa ok, yeaa they can be possibly related. If there are sources stating it, then there should be a link somewhere
These are a few Kru names, can u tell if there are some close Ijaws name

Lago (means God in Bete)
Tape
Taiba (Taheeba)
Sery
Ibo
Meleke same in ijaw
Oula
Oulai (pronunced Oulahee)
Digbeu
Dalo
Pado
Atto attorney
Wledji
Djehi
Zadi
Ble
...

Sybellah: umh i c
Some look a bit close like Ibinagbo for example, we have Inabo, Ebipade we have Kpade, also Padre, and Ebiegberi, we have Gbery (so in these 3 names, for the Ijaws there is Ebi/Ibi at the beginning of the name) do you know if Ebi means something specific?
They say the Bete-Junkun are almost extinct, do you know some of the ethnic groups living in Taraba state?

Sybellah: They say the Bete-Junkun are almost extinct, do you know some of the ethnic groups living in Taraba state?

Sybellah: umh i c
Some look a bit close like Ibinagbo for example, we have Inabo, Ebipade we have Kpade, also Padre, and Ebiegberi, we have Gbery (so in these 3 names, for the Ijaws there is Ebi/Ibi at the beginning of the name) do you know if Ebi means something specific?
They say the Bete-Junkun are almost extinct, do you know the people living in Taraba state?

Sybellah: aa ok i c
so some of the Ijaws have kru ancestry....can u please give out a few ijaw names so we can see how similar they are?
And how close are the bassa, bete-jukun and ijaws in Nigeria? They say the Bete-junkun come from Taraba state, i ve been wondering if they had any link to the Bete in CIV. Also, Ivo and I think the Baasa from lib are the same with the Bete, and that all Bassa located in different countries are related according to some sources. How well do u know the Bassa of Naija?

Sybellah: but these are recent admixture, we posted cuz they are of Bhete ancestry as well, they are mixed race across the continent
i thought u meant the kru were of euro-mixed background, and this is a nono

Sybellah: I have checked out the link, it aint workin

Sybellah: [b]nononono the Ivorian Kru ain't mix with french, american, brazilian where did u see that abeg stop trollin
[/b]No, i talked about mixes, inter-ethnic mixes, but not euro mixes and I don't know if mixing happened as much with Kru groups, as it did with the Senoufo and the Baoule for example.
I have seen a few sources claiming that the Kru and Ijaws were originally the same, however i do not know seriously. A few sources claim different origins for them. I am going to check the website u provided, thanx
For the pics will post more lib, gotta find the pics

Sybellah: uumh there is no such Baoule cloth, cause the Baoule use kente as well. However in CIV, there is more variety in the design pattern of the cloth
About the quality of the cloth, it's the same since it's the same technique they use to make it, however when considering the designs, i prefer ours cuz it's more varied from my observation

Sysy: aha u r not the 1st person from who i heard that, i ve never been to Yamoussokro actually....but I ve been to san pedro, san perdro is very nice, and the beach is aweeesome, love it. I used to visit Bouake regularly as well before 2002, it was ok too

Sysy: aak ok, u mean the culture ain't that different ? or just generally speaking: environment, people attitude, activities, distractions...

Sysy: Yea cuz we learn it from middle to high school, many people in Babi know at least the basic.
I love Nigerians too, you are very friendly and welcoming...I am planing to pass by Lagos one of these days, really interested to learn more about your culture.