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Omoedeki:
Oga ab1x how economical are those your formula cos from my calculations it will cost around #7k per 15kg which is more expensive than coppens. Abeg enlighten me.

It is quite economical. There will be reduction in the price of the feeds as the fish continue to grow. The logic is that when the fish is small they tend to consume quality feeds which is quite costly but as times goes by there will be reduction in the cost of feeds. By the time they reach 3 and half month to four month, the cost per kg should not be more than 250 naira per kg

dy4life:
All things being equal, your fishes should be
around 200 – 300 grams in 2 months with
floating feed alone, if they are being fed
properly; after then, you can switch to sinking
feed and give them the following feed sizes:
200 – 300 grams: 2mm feed size
300 to 600 grams : 4mm feed size
600 grams to 1kg+ : 6mm feed siz email.
Pls I need your explanation on this ab1x n the rest guru in the house

All things cannot be equal. All other things being equal, there is no fixed KG to attain within those month. However, if the seed is alright and you are able to manage your farm very well, then be expecting an AVERGAGE of 2.0 to 2.5KG in 6months. 6months is a very long period of time so getting 1KG plus is not only a waste of money but also a waste of time. 1KG fish is not a fish at all, it is called smallest here...small start from 1.2 to 1.3 KG....thus, 20/21/22 pieces of fish must weigh 25KG

Ttalk:
Oga Ab1x, you go kill person with laughter o, i mean Feed Conversion Ratio of your formula

This is better. Not everybody understand abbreviation. However, comparisons of FCR among different species may be of little significance unless the feeds involved are of similar quality and suitability.

Ttalk:
Oga Ab1x, what is the FCR of your formula 1&2?

Please be more specific about what you mean by FCR;

First Call Resolution
FCR First Contact Resolution
FCR Federal Case Registry
FCR Fire Control Radar
FCR Flat-Coated Retriever (dog breed)
FCR Free Credit Report
FCR Fludarabine, Cyclophosphamide and Rituximab (chemotherapy regimen)
FCR FIFO Control Register
FCR Foreign Credential Recognition (Canada)
FCR Flexor Carpi Radialis
FCR Feed Conversion Rate (animal nutrition)
FCR Functional Chief Representative (US Army)
FCR Full Cost Recovery (UK)
FCR Fire-Cracked Rock
FCR Federal Court Reports (Australia)
FCR Forwarder's Certificate of Receipt
FCR Faster Cast Rate (gaming)
FCR Flight Control Room (NASA)
FCR Forest City Ratner Companies
FCR Fault Code Reader (automotive engineering)
FCR Federal Contracts Report
FCR Football Club de Rouen (French: Football Club of Rouen; Rouen, France)
FCR Fixed Charge Rate
FCR Forwarding Agents Certificate
FCR Flow Change Request (LFAP - Message)

Ttalk:
I think this answered my question that your formula is for sinking feed

Yes

mercylicious:
So u are just knowing now? That guy is 3much.

At Abix, is there a different formulae fo the feed for a month old fish or is it still the old formulae u gave? Do u start the month old with 2mm feed?

A month old fish should be able to pick 2mm local feeds also known as indomie size. Peradventure, they cannot pick it you can either continue with 1.2mm or 1.5mm because both has 56% and 48% respectively crude protein. Please, do not use 2mm coppens because it has 42% and 45% which is quite low considering their age.

sosolid007:
Hello ABx1,

Thanks for the response.

Do local feeds float because i noticed that the fingerlins find it hard to eat from the ground and that is why i use coppens for a month and a half before i switch to local. Except you mean local feeds can float now.

if that is the case i need to get to your feedmill fast. Which feed mill can convert my feeds to floating. Please advise

The kind of feed mills that I am talking about here does not float. Don't get me wrong, there are some local feeds that floats however research have shown that they do not produce the kind of result the sinkable local feeds produced. I have one feed mill here that does floating local feeds but at the creation of the feed mill, a lot of people patronize them but when they tried it and did not get result they had to switch back to sinkable local feeds.

Of course, I found out why they did not get the same result like the sinkable local feeds, I learnt that most of the ingredient (soya, gnc, maize etc) go through boiling process before they are used to make the floating feeds. It all implies that all the nutritional value must have been extracted out to make the local floating feeds.

To reduce wastage when using local sinkable feeds, you need to apply on a spot feeding method and take your time to feed them gently and stop when you know that they have reached their saturation point.

@sosolid007:

You are welcome. 25 x 40 should be able to accommodate 1000 pieces of fish but I will advise you to under stock rather than over stock. Every one is clamoring for change and as such change has indeed happened in this country so also change has happened in grow out catfish production, it is no longer changing to local feeds at 1 and half month, it is now between 25- 27 days maximum. You only need to feed your fingerlings with 0.5mm, 0.8mm and 1.2mm before switching to local feeds which start from 2mm (indomie size). I have used both feeds in the past but I still prefer coppens to Ziggler any time any day. You don't need to get any tanks. You only need to channel the water using pipes to each of the pond from the borehole. You don't need to get any filter for the borehole. As regards hatching, Robonski will attend to that for you. I don't make feeds but you can easily do local feeds at any nearest feedmills

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Unsad:
Cute.
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Fat? Did I hear you say Fat? You will be the only one carrying him

Ttalk:
How can one control fluctuating temperature in concrete pond? I am asking this question because there seems to be general believe that catfish perform best at 85degrees F, but temperature can drop as low as 50degrees F at night?

Can one therefore cover grow-out pond to generate heat in order to increase the temperature at night, or one should simply add hot water?

Or maybe doing flow through at night is what is needed to control temperature fluctuation?

My Ogas, Robonski, Dr Belexy, Abix, Excellesor, Phemmy and other please i need quick response to this question before i parboil my fish in the name of increasing the water temparature

NOTE: 85degrees Fahrenheit is equal to 29.4 degrees Celsius, while 50degrees Fahrenheit is equal to 10 degrees Fahrenheit

If you have access to flow through, you can pump water on them. I will advise you to do two things:
1) Never overfeed them in the evening. Just give them little feed. They tend to be more active in the morning than in the evening.
2) Feed them before 5PM so that the feed can digest on time

korel9:
This was all I asked for my chairmen



I hope my sins have been forgiven?

You didn't offend me. Just one of those things.

robonski15:
Take note also that Formalin is a strong chemical if miss used it can wipe out the entire stock in a matter of minutes. Take precaution when applying.

ab1x thanks for the info.

Well said. You are welcome, my brother.

korel9:
My ogas in d house can you please confirm this?
Cc: robonski15
robonski16
fhemmmy

What is that suppose to mean? What confirmation do you want? You think I just came here to write what I don't know about

There are two additional ways in which you can treat your fish if you observe that they are dying.

1) Get bitter leaf (ewuro), it should be as many as possible. Put little water inside the leaf and squeezed it very well (gbo dada) in such a way that all the vitality will be extracted during squeezing. After which you are to drain the water in the pond, leave little water to cover their body and pour the squizzed water into the pond. You are to leave them for 12 hours before feeding


2) Another one is to get formalin (can be purchase from any store that sells chemical for weeds), you will mix with water depending on how big your pond is, you then sprinkle it inside your pond. PLEASE note you don't need to drain your water before applying but, make sure water does not enter and water does not go out. You are to feed them after 12 hours.


No matter the nature of their sickness, it will flush out the disease.

Greatest OSUities. Congrats bro.

clean guys

It is close to 537,600 but the bank is still going to charge VAT as a standard procedure

saddek04:
. Gud morn all, please Ab1x, what is the total weight, in tonnes expected from 2000 fingerlings stocked using your formula to the latter for six months. I need to weigh my options if I need to sink a borehole and all other expenses involved. You may not be able to give an exact figure but please give the range of minimum and maximum. I really need ur tutoring as I have invested so kuch on fish farming for more than 5 years, no solutions yet and no going back. Thanks as you respond quickly

The numbers stocked cannot give you the total weight or tonnes however, what they eat can do so. For example if what you stocked in respective of the total numbers eat 3 tonnes of feeds which is 3000KG then, be expecting 2300KG or 2.3 tonnes. The remaining 700KG will be waste. It may or may not be up to 700KG, all depends on how smart you can feed.

rainycash:
@abix. How much will it cost to construct an industrial type of borehole for earthen pond in ijebu ode. Tnx

250k

WhoBeThisMan:
Oga robonski15 and oga ab1x and all other ogas I greet una. Pls What is the current price for millange, and is it still viable in the market? Thanks

Price varies. Price is high in Lagos compare to Ogun state where the price is relatively low. Melange should not be more than 400 Naira per kg

Darvel:
Still available

Still available

Mayany:
Thanks bro..my earthen pond is actually in a swampy environment and there is continuous flow of water it only gets dirty when polluted,however I think pumping regularly is not easy considering d size of d pond...still on mortality is there a chance that fishes eat themselves?

Yes, they eat themselves. You can drain the water every month.

Mayany:
Thanks bro..i want to know how often I need to change water..do I need to pump it out when its dark? and as for the feeding I do spot feeding with foreign feed for 5months and local for d last month b4 harvest. I really want to know how to reduce mortality rate,thou I am expecting to harvest my other pond soon

You need to change water once in a week if you are using a stagnant method. You can be pumping water at least three times in a week. This will help them to digest the feed on time thereby helping them boosting their eating habit. To reduce mortality rate, immediately you notice that two dropped(dead) and float in your pond, and you also notice that some of them hang on the water, you need to drain the water and treat them with salt and wood ash. Feed them after 48 hours.

saddek04:
. When are they to start d finisher feed where you use local fm ans broiler starter, is it at 4 months or how many months to date of sales

I rear my fish for 6months. I start using finisher when they are 4 and half months to reduce cost. However, I don't advise anyone to use local fish. I will rather reduce the FM % to minimal than use local fish. You can't compare processed and imported stuff with enough additive with what they source for locally. Some of the local fish people use can make u vomit if you smell it. It's just so disgusting unless of course you can get those small fish ; we call it yoyo in Yoruba language (sorry, i no sabi d english name)