₦airaland Forum

mens dept:
I cant agree more. People can post all they want, but lets call a spade a spade. If it takes us 31 pages of round-robin matches to say what is the obvious, in fact things that are already well documented, then yes, Igbo will continue to be regarded as nonentities on the big stage. We are talking about the true extent of Alaigbo in the way school children do. (Hi my name is Emeka and I'm from Obingwa LGA, what about you, Are delta Igbo really Igbo?, Goodluck Johnathan is Igbo because, )

Well, lets say that as of today the true extent of Igboland is a place without any major world class city, international airport, etc. In fairness, it is as a result of marginalization by others, and the lack of solidarity among Igbo. Perhaps this lack of solidarity can be in part a lack of understanding of the "true extent of Igboland", and that Igbo is Igbo, regardless of arbitrary borders (i.e. "Delta" State, Ebonyi State). So, if Igbo people's current dialogue on Nairaland today is about how big and shiny their land is-and that's it- then it's a pity.

Mens dept or womens dept, you have not made a comment in relation to the title. Do not derail this thread. In a pure and simple way, discuss the true extent of Igboland before I call you a fool.

Ranoscky:
Dis thread is nomore interestin since i'v not heard from MR. CORK for long now!

D guy dey give me hypertension abeg!

May the evil spirit in cork be transfered to you with immediate effect.

bk.babe97y:
Definitely, if STU*PIDITY, IMBE*CILITY, AND DIM-WITTEDNESS were the criteria being used to judge, then, even I gotta conceded that your boy will smash me hands down.


P.S: Look at how foolish u r, typical Ibo man! Conducting and casting votes in the same election.lol. fool!

Indirectly, you have highlighted the qualities that will make nairalanders vote for you e.g imbecility, stupidity, wittedness. They are not enough to beat Komando. Add to your qualities-homosexualism, thuggery, tribalism, mischief and gangsterism. This will enable you clinch votes from nairalanders from Eruwa, Ogbomosho, Saki, Odo-ona, Modakeke, Egbeda, Odogbolu and environs.
Yet you will still be a loser as always.

bk.babe97y:
Youre really proud of Komando!?!? Lol. Yall Ibos are sick! lol. This monkey that everyone chose to ignore is now yalls Messiah!? lol. Well, Ojukwu was also once hailed as the second coming of Christ. . . . . .

If there should be an election between you and Komando, he will defeat you hands down as far as nairaland is concerned.
Anyway, before the voting starts, I cast my vote for Komando.
Kommando 1: 0 Bk.
next.

komando.:
Yoruba and yoruba are correct. Yoruba and Juruba are not correct.

Even some Yaribas lately spell Yoruba. Why is that?.

kettykings:
Watch how some funny derailed the thread.

The fact is why impersonate the another person whom u despise , and if these igbos are that bad like some people claim , how come the same people will shed the last drop of their blood when igbos talk of leaving nigeria.

Really, yaribas never cease to amaze the world , you go about claiming igbos are these and that and the only thing you can do about it is for your people in govt to stop biafran agitators.

Could this be hatred driven out of complex of hatred out of fear.

Yaribas never talk of leaving nigeria , but at the mention of the name of biafra their knees melt.

Is it Yaribas, Yorubas, Jurubas. Which one is correct, as I see different spellings everyday.

MetalGong4:
hahahahahahaha . . . lol

The last fight is now between KOMANDO (d actor) and KORUJI ( d boss ) . . . . lol

You know he is not a match to Komando. Koruji should go and play with his mates in the zoo, noth with Komando.

@Franny 1980: Surely your mother's bride price is a waste if at all there was any. It is a pity that an Igbo like you do not know that Ibo was what the British used during colonialism as they do not have 'GB' in their alphabet.
Am sure your parents are not informed or else, they should have thought you that it is Igbo. Get it into your empty skull, ediot.
@Cork: I think your primary concern should be about your mother in the village with only one eye. Live Ndigbo alone and pay attention to her before the remaining eye is damaged as well. Humble advice.

ijaw_girl:
lol relax
u takes tingz too personal

The message to you is very clear: Quit insulting Ndigbo as individuals.
Quit insulting Ndigbo as a group.
Abagworo, Obiagu and other Igbo guys you have insulted in this thread has done nothing wrong to you. You may not agree with what they post, but insults must not fly.
Why not learn from Ibime and OW11.
Nevertherless, your postings on other threads has displayed a lot of Igbo hatred. STOP IT IJAW GIRL.

ijaw_girl:
this guy, lol! abaogorogo!
Why are you so obsessed abt looks?
Ijaws in the East married Europeans back in the day
during the slave trade/oil palm trade many Igbo people were also adopted into Ijaw families in RS
n many Ijaws in Rivers state marry ndiIgbo

Western Ijaws
Ijaws in Delta state, Bayelsa, Ondo intermarry with the Isoko's, urhobos and yorubas
due to proximity etc
.
. . we are not going to look the same

the Ijaw Nation is diverse with looks, culture etc
Physical Appearance is not only factor

This dirty daughter of a prostituting mother is at her game again. This time it is Abaogogoro. Why do you have to insult Abagworo when he has not done so to you?.
@Ijaw girl or whatever useless name you gave yourself, the only way you will have peace in your worthless life is to forgo Igbo issues. Since all the insults on you is not effective, I will design a way that will eliminate your moronic brains forever, ccunt-assz.

@Ijaw fishhead, you even had the audacity to call an innocent man-Obiagu ''itiboribo''. Wonders shall never end.
Don't run away, come back here you fanny slut. Whatever the case, no hiding place for a tribalist like you, slowpoke.

Ndipe:
To me, it appears this woman is on a mission even if it means fabricating the Holy Text, to advance the causes of the Ibo people. Pathetic.

Another fool who has got nothing to offer joins the frail. Get out of here iidiot, you are not knowledgeable for this thread.

igbo boy:
i beg to differ on one particular thing u said, it is more than easy, go to lagos and see the non yoruba kids breaking yoruba pass yoruba self and the funny thing is that their parents can speak the language cos their parents usually are the ones that migrated there while the kids where born in lagos,

@Igbo Boy, please do not be offended. I have noticed that all her post is anti-Igbo. It is Igbo is claiming her oil, Igbo is claiming her land, Igbo people bleach their skin, Igbo this and that.
But, am prepared to deliver a double dose of that thing on her right now. What hater she is.

ijaw_girl:
lol here we meet again! take it easy its just the internet
I send those insults back to your mother

Dickk Licker, you are lucky KOMANDO has not read any of your Igbo hatred filled post yet. Even at that, the only way you will know peace here is to end your hatred on the Igbo. Bloody stinking Idiott.

ijaw_girl:
LOL some of you Igbo people are so eager to claim Bonny . . I understand Bonny is a very wealthy LGA $$$$!
Get over it, Its Ijawland!



Obiagu-show me the part where the parents withdrew their children?
Its difficult to convince little kids to learn a language that is not spoken at home
or parents teaching their children a language they don't know.
I have met igbo kids here in Canada who are not interested in learning their language
even though their parents paid for Igbo classes for them.

I do not know why upon the insults I rain on you, you still get dumb more and more. Hawk, how many times has the Igbo come to your father's house to claim his land?. Why not take your hatred to other Nigerian groups who milk you dry and show nothing in return. Blow jobber, once again, let the Igbo be. They are not the cause of your lunacy, IDIOTT.

Aigbofa:
I think y'all would have turned out better, if Biafran soldiers didn't eat your underwear.

Aigbofa: Remember I have insulted you twice in the past. For how long must I insult you. Your posts is so full of hatred. Why not change for good?.

Eke kere uwa--The Almighty and creator of all things.

yousouph:
how many mikel obi thread must we have?

Don't mind them. Iidiots who do not know their left from right are making attempts to be noticed. Great losers.

Ileke-IdI:
If OnlyTruth hasnt yet posted, then this thread is just
death!

Go and sit in the gutter as you have nothing sensible to contribute.Iidiot.

jamace:
Hmnn. Mrs Acholonu tried.

My concern here is that she has indirectly said God did not CREATE human beings but that human beings evolved from monkeys, baboons, apes, chimpazees, gorrillas, orangutan e.t.c (I just imagined my ancestors with long tails hopping from tree to tree in the forest. It wasn't funny o). Na wa o .
She has again confirmed the Darwin's Evolution Theory that I detest.

Anyway, Mrs Acholonu has done an academic exercise, reserved for people with higher brainwaves. No qualms.

But me I reject that my ancestors EVOLVED from the monkey family. My stand is GOD ALMIGHTY CREATED MY ANCESTORS DOWN TO MY HUMBLE SELF. No monkey bizness at all.

You are wrong. Please reread her article before misquoting her.

I have always believed that it is wrong for Nigerian groups to trace their ancestry from Middle east.
Prof Acholonu in a way is making a sense here. What do you think?.

http://sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/living/2010/aug/28/living-28-08-2010-002.htm
Professor traces biblical Eden to Nigeria
• Says Igboukwu is the place
From MODESTUS CHUKWULAKA, Abuja
Saturday, August 28, 2010



In 2005, Afro-centric scholar, Prof. Catherine Acholonu, rattled the imagination of a bemused global academic community, when she claimed that the biblical Adam, the progenitor of the human race, was an African, in all probability a Nigerian. Her book, Gram Code of African Adam, chronicles what she described as the hidden contributions of ancient Africans to world civilization. Acholonu, a former presidential aide on culture, had, in that work, challenged those who are intent on unraveling the mystery of the lost Garden of Eden to zero in their searchlight on the African continent because of what she considers compelling evidence in that direction.

Acholonu was even more audacious last year with the publication of the second book in her Adam series, entitled, They Lived Before Adam. In that book, she had rubbished the belief held by many for so long that the Igbo people of South-East Nigeria might have descended from the Hebrews. Rather, he said, it was the Jewish culture that had been enriched by Igbo traditions, as a result of earlier interface between the two peoples thousands of years earlier. In deed, Acholonu had questioned the veracity of the creation story, as recorded in the Bible and said the origin of the Igbo race pre-dates Adam! And if anything, she said, Adam, and ipso facto, his descendants, owed their ancestry to the Igbo.

Now, with her forth-coming book, The Lost Testament of the Ancestors of Adam, Acholonu, a professor of African History and Philosophy, is sure to ruffle no fewer feathers than she had done in her two recent books. Predictably, the present book completes the Adam trilogy, and Acholonu tells Saturday Sun that the book serves as a logical conclusion to the arguments that were advanced in the Gram Code concerning the pre-eminence of Africa, and particularly Nigeria, in the origins of man.

“The Gram Code touched on a lot of things, but when we wrote They Lived Before Adam, we put more flesh and details to some of the things we hinted at in the previous one. When we said that Eden is in Nigeria, we substantiated it; now the evidence is mounting,” she says.

In the 2005 book, Acholonu explains that she basically used her expertise as a linguist, focusing on pieces of linguistic evidence that suggested that Eden was somewhere in sub-Saharan Africa, most probably in West Africa. She says she and her team of researchers had backed up their claims by oral and written traditions that are yet to be controverted.

However, in last year’s book, Acholonu says they had to go deeper than linguistic evidence and traditions to look at “those cultures whose histories has been written down, explaining, “we analysed symbols from continent to continent and found out that West Africa, indeed, Nigeria, your people and my people have been the origin.” Quite an audacious claim, but Acholonu, who had, earlier in her academic career, written The Igbo Roots of Olaudah Equiano, said she does not envisage any controversy because the facts speak for themselves.

She says: “We put together what archaeologists and paleontologists have done over the years; those who study human fossils, and they found out that by seven million BC, people were living in the Chad Basin. They were not yet men, but ancestors to the homo erectus, they were called Australopithecus.”

According to her, a French paleontologist had concluded, after a 2002 study, that the ancestors of the homo erectus lived in the area around the Chad Basin. In the course of its research for the coming book, Acholonu says her team had found out that way back in the 1970s, a team of archaeologists from the University of Nigeria, Nsukka had discovered that homo erectus lived in Ugwuele, a town in the present day Abia State, South East of Nigeria, one million years before the birth of Christ. Home erectus was the direct ancestors of modern man, the homo sapience.

In Acholonu’s words, “the ancestors of Adam, the cave men lived in Ugwuele, and their ancestors lived in Borno area of Northern Nigeria. In other words, those people who were ancestors of Adam were here.”
Of course, she had said as much in her previous works, but now Acholonu appears to be more insistent and precise: “Africa has been the mother of everything; not just Africa, it’s Nigeria. Everything started here. We have not yet been dismissed by anybody.”

How does the Ugwuele and Chad Basin connection translate to the exact place, where the Garden of Eden, as described in the Bible, was? Again, Acholonu says she has borrowed from history to arrive at her conclusions. She says her team had been able to identify the locations named not only in Egyptian records, but also in Herodotus. She speaks of several references made to Eden in ancient history, and says the descriptions tally with her findings about Igbukwu in Anambra State.

Acholonu obviously knows she has a lot of explanations to make here, and says, as a caveat, that mythological Egypt should be distinguished from the much later ancient Egypt ruled by the pharaohs. The former, she says, was somewhere in West Africa and was ruled directly by the gods.
“They were calling us Ethiopia, Egypt, Nubia, Lybia and all sorts of name. Ethiopia was us,” she says, pointing out that history spoke a lot about Ethiopia West, “where the gods were dinning and where the Nile had its source. The Egyptians believed where the Nile had its source is Eden,” she says.

Describing Egyptian records as record of everything, she says her team studied the works of the founder of Egyptian civilization, Tot whom she describes as the god of writing and wisdom, insisting that the link between his works and Nigerian traditions are overwhelming.

“The gods of Egypt were living here; it was only in 3100 BC that Tot moved from Nigerian to Egypt. We’ve gone into several records from different parts of the world. The mythological Egypt was here, the same god-man ruled them,” she says.

She identifies River Nun in the Niger Delta as the source of the Nile, citing Herodotus who wrote that the source of the Nile “lies somewhere South-west of Egypt.” This description, she says, fits River Niger, which is the source of River Nile: “They said that that place where the Nile had its source is where the River Nun is, that’s where life started. That’s where the Niger enters the Atlantic.”
Bringing her argument further home, she speaks of a sacred lake referred to by Egyptian historians, which was square-shaped and flowed from the source of the Nile, a confluence of that river.
“They said the lake was 440 cubits and (was) the base of the great pyramid of Gizer, the oldest and biggest of the pyramids, that lake was Idemili Lake; the Igbo still talk of the same sacred lake, the Binis, the Yoruba speak the same,” she claims. Citing historical references to the city built upon the plateau, the scholar says the plateau was recovered from the deluge.

The city in question, she says, was reputed for its stone tools, which archaeologists have said thrived as an industry there, “like the whole world was being supplied stone tools from there,” adding that her team “capitalised from such information and placed it side by with what is generally known of Igbukwu.” According to her, given the pervading reference to plateau, the cave men, the source of the Nile, the mythical lake, stone writing (monolith) and other features that can easily be related with Igbukwu, it is not difficult to point to it as the Eden described by historians – and not by the Bible, anyway. 
When Tot, the founder of ancient Egypt came from Atlantis, she says, “he saw cave men, the same cave men of Ugwuele. Stones were cast at him, but he used his magic and built the city. That city was the first post-deluge city. It was from there that the world was populated. That city was built at least by 10,000 BC, they came here immediately after the deluge; it’s here in this country. That ancient forgotten city is at Igbukwu. It’s what the Egyptians called Yabo.

“It’s on a hill. Shaw already speaks about it. His finds in Igbukwu could fill museums. Igbukwu is the confluence city. Everyone in Igbukwu finds archaeological treasure while burying, while digging, while building. The city where the gods were going to banquet is Igbukwu; it was great to live anywhere close to the city,” she said.

Rather than be trailed by controversy and rebuttals, Acholonu says the two previous books in the Adam series were well received within and outside the country. For instance, They Lived Before Adam is available at Amazon and has received a number of international awards, the most recent being the US-based International Book Award. While the book was still in the works, Acholonu was invited to the Harlem Book fair in New York, where a dance drama was staged in honour of “the revelation the book was bringing to the world” at the Schomburg Centre for Black Culture.

“It’s an international bestseller; under one year we are getting orders from classrooms, individuals, libraries across the world, and this encouraged us and made to understand that there is so much hunger for what we are doing. We’ve toured a number of universities in the US,” she says.
In fact, Acholonu says she was told to go for the Nobel on account of the two books, so as to put the books on the spot to draw the attention of the world to the hitherto unknown African contribution to history. However, she was reminded that to go for the Nobel, she had to complete the trilogy, hence had to do the third and final book which is expected to be out next month. Asked what to expect from the book, the author of The Gram Code of African Adam said: “It’s a wash book!

helium44:
hahahahaha! Yet another frustrated hungry naughty person! How many ar u fools? Threads are for those with relevant opinion not for vituperative bastards like u fools.its glaring u re al frustrated and ilmannered if such a simple thread can cheaply loosen your tongue to say trash.again! I startd d thread afta an arguement session wiv my guys,who cares or knows if there is a similar thread. Go home and learn some manners,your assignment!

You dirty son of a LovePeddler, no one is interested in your silly story. This thread has failed. So go and bleep your grandma for the failure. What a sshit eater you are.PI.M.P.

@Helium or whatever useless name you call yourself, go and eat sshit instead of opening a moronic thread about Mikel. You must be very blind not to have seen Mikel Thread already. Iidiot, it seems you just want cheap popularity, in that case you have failed, vagabond.

seanet02:
WORD OF ADVICE, WHEN YOU ARE REPLYING PEOPLE, TRY TO INSERT HIS/HER QUOTES SO THAT PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHO YOU ARE BASHING WITH YOUR IRRESPONSIBLE BASHING
EXCEPT YOU ARE USING YOUR PHONE

You beast of no gender, why on earth do you keep on trailing an innocent man-Komando. Even when he has not replied to any of your moronic posts. Jackass, carry time o.

He rarely starts a thread. But when someone else does, he loads it with his Clanish Ngwa rubbish.

EzeUche22:
ChinenyeN,

You seem to be Igbos weakest link on NL. You always go against the majority of the Igbos on NL concerning a united Igboland. You try to divide us and act like your small clan is its own group. And other groups use your words to attack us.

WORD.
Uchenna, onye nwe anyi nonyere gi.

@Aigbofa and Seanet: Why not go and cover your faces with bucket of shitt. Your attempts to impress and sound smart has not helped your ignorance but has made you to land in the fat sack of monkey shitt. Go and screw your grandma's because Ndi Igbo are found in 7 states. Despite some proportions in Benue, Edo and Akwa Ibom. Fuckheads.

BlueDiva:
Wigan will host Chelsea on Sat August 21st. Chelsea will be looking to continue it's winning streak after walloping West Brom 6 nil on Saturday. Wigan will be hoping to put in an improved performance after receiving a 4 nil thrashing from newcomers Blackpool at the weekend. Chelsea new boy, Ramires is expected to make his debut for the Blues.

BlueIbime and other Blues, do you not think that Chelsea needs another top marksman?. Our match against Inter Milan last term really made me ask this question, when Anelka and Drogba were blunt.