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never far away in the bed last night.

Angel of Life in the bed last night (even this night! )

well, like i said, i get the message.

human sacrifice, wow!
*shudder*, sango worshippers , good sense of humor my friend!

man, dark man zero, i must say you have a way with words. pretty strong analogies u have i must say. like i said earlier, i get the message.

also, like i said, i knew you must have had some pretty bad experiences to be this descriptive about this issue. sorry for the losses that where personal.

now, where you called a marriage evil just because it was between two people with same genotype AS, i don't agree. as dominobaby said, if God said go ahead. I'll tell anyone-even you to go ahead. why? because God said so. i absolutely trust HIM. even as a both AA couple, if He gave you an instruction to adopt an SS child that He wants to use you to bring up, won't you do it?

anyway, like i said earlier, i feel you. you have made your points. and clear too.

and with dominobaby too, if God says so, go on s'oun, nothing dey happen. no kain for where God dey!

dakmanzero:
@abeleon, i will have to assume you are the one in question here.

don't do it.

why take such a risk? you aren't even risking your OWN life, but the life of another!

if someone told you to take a gun with 4 chambers, loaded with a bullet in one of the chambers, spin it and point at one of your children, would u pull the trigger and hope the bullet isnt in the barrel? by PURE RANDOM CHANCE?

can you kill your own child? giving birth to SS is even worse than the above because at least the child will die instantly with a bullet, not slowly over a period of many years. What if you arent rich? what if u can't afford to support the child? and the child WILL DIE most definitely.


if its just for info purposes, well, agree or disagree, its your choice. BUT if u are making a real decision I BEG you, DON'T DO IT!!!!!

love is a completely lame excuse! DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!

wow! i'm lost for words.

i really haven't looked at it like that before, men. what an analogy!
i get the message, thanks bro.

do you have an experience of these? it sounds too real to be imagined?

you gays, oops , i mean guys should make this picture thingee public jo . let's all see.

but please, is Paloma's 'desperacy' healthy the way it's going like this? i don't think a girl should be this desperate for a guy, or at least she shouldn't show it like this. i think she's just making diego's head swell 'just a little bit'.

what exactly does he want from Antonia huh? jumping from fire into hellfire i think. she is definitely going to be more work compared to Paloma. i think Paloma should allow Diego to go, just like my people say, ''ile l'apoti duro de idi' that is to say, it is the house like this, the stool waits for the bombom',o o, OK for those too janded to understand my Yoruba English, let's put it like this, the chair always waits at home for the buttocks, no matter how far and wide it swings, it always comes back for sitting.
she needn't fear.

eh, I'm still waiting to see them pixes, all you Miguel's and Josephina's,

yeah i like that.

a little ray of hope in this black room! there's hope, i understand it is not advisable, but it is not the end of the world.

not that i tell everybody to disregard, but my real question is, should it be the sole decision taker when it comes to our blooming of love?

if all ASs marry AAs, then eventually we will run out of AAs, don't you think?

putting it like that, you have all figured out, don't you?

you make your post sound so final, wow.

i hear you, but it sounds to me like you are just talking from the point of view of someone angry for losing a loved one just like that. i could be hard, it is hard in fact i know. but,

have you tot about the fact that it is possible not to have an SS offspring at all?

murder?, huuuuuuuuuuuuu! you make me shuder.

haba brushparke,

take it easy!i feel like you could take me apart and tear me into shreads now if you were seeing me. but remember, even if the bad thing happens more often than the good, it's not a concluded case that the bad must happen.

what do you say to gbenga_9ja up above,huh? miracles can still shele.

why would God bring people together and arrange things to be this diff, hard and painful?

sometimes, i wonder,

i dig so much how diego gets at 'babra'!she could go mad. her husband too. but, what they'd give for me to tell them berenice's son ain't actually diego's! and what's worse, it's miguel's!!that girl-berenice, is really a b****, ain't she?! she's some real sh**

but i like soledad. she's a mama. won't give up on her daughter anyhow, sticks with her tru any shit, encourages to get her arse back up on her feet each time, i so like that. that girl wouldda gone mad a long time ago if not for her, if only moms like these were real!

well, guys i think i agree with y'all about swidling us out of our 50 cents, oh, i mean 50 bucks, men, AIT.

but about paloma and mariano, they could do, only that the won't do. diego and paloma are too connectd, even in their unconscious, they can't just forget each other like that and 'move on', it ain't easy. i wnat to see hoe they'll come back cos, i believe they will-and it will be romantic. although antonia ain't bad for diego too. mariano ain't bad, but he's not on paloma's plane, he bores her, see?

but you know that ain't no joy or experience on earth like carrying one's child in your womb or knowing this little cute thing in your hand came alive through your seed. absolutely no other, and yes the love's way past break now.

well,
i know the chances of having an SS for a child is 25%. but what about the remaining 75% chance of NOT having?
i don't think it's end of the world for the two in love. and even if they have the child, it can be managed well. i know a girl who's SS but you couldn't know unless you were told. i also know a family of five kids with none SS though both parents were AS.

i don't think it is reason enough to kill a marriage, but i also don't surport causing endless pains to kids who could escape it. like a friend said, why fight a war if it can be avoided?

hmm, what's my position sef? i'm beginning to lose it, or, ?

well, y'all know.

She's AS and He's AS too. Should they still or shouldn't they? marry i mean.

save a brotha here.

wow, i can't believe they are doing it already!i'm still at work. i hope you guys will fil in for me tomorrow.i always look forward to that from y'all. but i tot they usually do it around 7 on days like this?

me too, o. i beg. make una try send me too. mails4abel@yahoo.com .dat kin' tin.

hi guys,
i haven't been able to find the english translation of the summaries too (171-238). but as soon as, i'll post.
but ithink AIT could pay us faithful back by showing 2hrs for a while after nations cup.

anybody knows what happened to miguel & berenice?

guess what guys! i know y'all gonna love me for this (well, you better love me)
i found the summary of the grand finale of our beloved soap.
i'll share it with all now. but promise me, we will still watch it as long as ait shows o......
but it doesn't answer all my Qs, like what happened to miguel? how did berenice die?
am i spilling the beans already? okay read for yourself. here goes:


Author: Janet (---)
Date:   12-17-02 18:24 PST

Cuando Seas Mia (gran final)

The episode picks up at the scene with Fabian holding Diego at gunpoint, everyone gathered in the room, with things pretty much at a draw; and Fabian delivering his soliloquy, admitting that his one fear in life is that of being forgotten, consigned to oblivion... He's gone too far, and can't be talked into giving himself up; for Fabian it's all or nothing. Then just as he's about to shoot Diego, his cell phone rings...It's Barbara calling from jail, telling him to be careful and not put himself in harm’s way because she's pregnant – It was a wonderful moment, to see Fabian momentarily vulnerable and happy at the news he’s finally going to have a child…but the momentary vulnerability was enough to put him off his guard just long enough so that Diego could make a grab for the gun. Struggling for the gun between the two of them, while holding onto each other, the gun goes off... and finally it's Fabian who falls to the floor (still strewn with coffee beans), bleeding, struggling to say something about Barbara and his son, "mi heredero," before dying there on the floor, with Diego right next to him, distraught, crying, yelling, wondering why this had to happen.

By the way, the music throughout this scene is extremely good. I'd like to congratulate the composer who did the incidental/background music for the entire novela, as it's been some of the best I've heard on television.

Paloma shakily picks up the cell phone that has fallen to the floor, as Barbara is still on the other end of the line screaming - Paloma has to give her the news that Fabian is dead. After awhile, Paloma has to gently rouse Diego to lead him away from where he’s been on the floor beside Fabian's body, and finally only Juan Francisco is left by himself with Fabian, holding him as he cries his anguish and then closes Fabian’s eyes with his hand and gives his blessing and a kiss...


October – The Harvest Begins

Juan Francisco and Diego are in the office at Casa Blanca. The Cafetalero no longer exists, but Diego, on the phone, has just made Casa Blanca’s first sale...

We see Barbara looking around her place before leaving... (she no longer has Fabian's place as men have come to impound it)…

Angela visits Bernardo in prison; she refers to him as “hijo,” and Bernardo bitterly responds: “Hijo? How beautiful that word sounds in your mouth....” He won't even taste the sandwiches his mother brought: “I can't and I don't even want to be near you - forgive me for hating you so much”... It looks like Angela has lost both of her sons.

Barbara now wants nothing to do with the Sanchez Serranos. She visits Fabian's grave, saying she has nothing now, and will seek out her parents – the irony of now being pregnant, with nothing, when if they had had a son in the first place, they would have avoided all this, that has happened... Barbara goes to her parents' place; her dad doesn't even want to talk to her, and will barely acknowledge her since she had disowned them, but her mother loves her. Barbara tells her she's pregnant and needs a place to stay - mama takes her in...

Marcia is again on the cell phone, talking to her parents, saying not to worry, that she’s learned to put those notions of vengeance behind her, as now “I have more important things to do. I now know what love is, and know that it begins with love of oneself.” I’m not sure, but it looks like Marcia’s back at that church, working with people she turned to before.

Marta is at the Coffee Council office on the phone – Mariano hurries in, flustered, yelling, somewhat rushed and absorbed in coffee concerns. He wonders why on earth Marta’s dressed the way she is, when Avellanedo on the phone reminds Marianito that the wedding is today. He looks depressed, but all the same will go to the wedding with Marta... Then we see Marianito in a reverie by himself in the office – he picks up a can of coffee, and simply says "Gracias, Paloma, gracias por todo y gracias por tanto - yo te voy a querer siempre…” It was quite touching, a beautiful moment…

Diego’s off to the wedding, but Juan Francisco pauses before leaving the office. He takes some framed photos out of his desk, and first looks at a photo of Fabian, and wishes things had been different, that he would have given his life for it to be so. Then he looks at the portrait of Bernardo – he’s proud of him, hopes he will one day be at his side to start again, and that Juan Francisco will have the chance to truly get to know him... It’s a lovely moment...And then Juan Francisco thinks of his father Lorenzo: “where are you when I need you most? “But Margarita comes in to accompany him the wedding, and they leave the office holding hands...

Casa Blanca’s courtyard being prepared…Soledad, true to her nature, fears something will go wrong.... Then Paloma comes down the stairs in her wedding dress - absolutely gorgeous as expected, and even more so as she smiles and almost laughs from happiness. The church is packed, a mariachi band plays Ave Maria, Gian Carlo walks Paloma down the aisle... In this moment, Diego and Paloma make such an attractive and happy pair... Everyone is there and looks exceedingly happy (except Mariano, poor boy, who looks rather sad; and Soledad, though happy, has tears in her eyes). When it’s time to exchange vows, the priest first says Elena Olivares, but then says Paloma... The vows were beautiful, and not just a plain, “si, acepto,” but with many words of love and por toda la vida. The congregation applauds as Diego kisses the bride. There are more shots of all the familiar faces at the wedding, and as Diego and Paloma walk out the church, they exchange a much more sensuous kiss outside on the steps…

Afterwards, Paloma and Leanor are upstairs together, as Paloma makes some quick adjustments before going down to the courtyard. Soledad comes in, and hands Paloma a letter that had arrived earlier from the doctor who treated her when she passed out in the street...presumably the letter contains the results of medical tests and analysis done when she was in the hospital…

People are gathering at the wedding reception; Diego, Aurelio and Jeremy drink a toast together, and mention that they miss Juancho, though his sentence will probably be reduced.

Avellaneda and Giancarlo get into a nice little discussion, in which they talk about the valor and strength of the people of Mexico: “We raise ourselves from whatever failure, whatever tragedy, to start again.” Rather nice, given this has been one of the themes of the novela as of late.

Diana and Daniela catch up with their brother Diego, and he's still impatiently waiting for Paloma to join the party. Everyone applauds when she finally descends the stairs, and the band starts playing. There is another kiss, of course... he says she’s preciosa , and she says “we both are…” And then she whispers in Diego’s ear – his excited response is “What?? Are you sure?” Daniela calls for the attention of the crowd so that Diego may share that it is the happiest day of his life, that the great love of his life, and the only woman he has ever loved, has married him, and on top of that she just gave him the news that they’re going to have a child! At that news, even Doña Ines is up on a chair applauding and elated. And then Juancho shows up! Looks like his sentence had been reduced, and he’s able to properly congratulate Paloma and Diego and join in the festivities. Speaking of which, the dancing begins with Diego and Paloma, and as the party goes on, all end up dancing…


Seven Years Later...

Diego is walking in the fields calling out "Paloma!" An adorable little girl is crouched there in the field… “Hija, your mother's waiting for us!” Diego looks in her basket, checking out the coffee beans his little recolectora “Palomita” has gathered before heading back to the house with her. Back in the house, Paloma is calling for Aurelio, only to have his son answer… “No, your father,” she replies. She and Aurelio talk coffee business, about Juan Francisco, and about Martita... who at that moment shows up...

Dr. Avellaneda, Ines, and Juan Francisco are talking as they walk through Casa Blanca’s fields together.... “After all this time, Casablanca is flourishing. We’re finally where Lorenzo wanted. Finally, the land flourishes… and have you seen all my grandchildren?” And then Margarita shows up to join Juan Francisco, giving him a kiss. A rather cute, knowing look is exchanged by Avellaneda and Ines – everything really is flourishing…

Back in the kitchen, Marta and Paloma are chatting: “All is going well…Mariano? I don't know if he will show up today, you know how he’s always so busy...." "Ven aca!" It looks like the place is suddenly invaded by children, and Diego shows up as well. It was quite a cacophony, as one naturally expects with so many exuberant children. I wasn’t even sure which kids were whose, but we were given some humorous clues – I think it was Diana’s and Jeremy’s little boy who was crying for his Mama…And Fabian’s son was there too. I’m pretty sure I saw Daniela’s and Harold’s son. And Ricardito (child of Miguel and Berenice, adopted by Diego and Paloma, I believe, after Berenice died) was sprawled out on a bench, asleep – I think Paloma made the comment to Marta that he seems to sleep all the time – too funny! In another room, little Dieguito and Soledad are watching their novela together, but he turns to Soledad to say “I like the novela that you told to me better” and asks her to tell it again.
-“It doesn’t have a title yet, but it’s the story of a girl and her mother, who collected coffee…and her name was Paloma…”
-“Like my mother?”
-“Yes, like your mother. And how one day she found her principe azul, and his name was Diego…”
-“Like my father?”
-“Yes, just like your father, and….”
And Paloma smiles from the doorway, seeing this scene…

And the courtyard at Casa Blanca is shown all prepared for a banquet, with family and friends all seating themselves at the table...such a happy, loving atmosphere (and a slightly older Jeremy is looking really cute with glasses).... many loving people... And Mariano does show up, though a little late. Paloma hugs him, happy to see him, and says there’ll be time for the two of them to talk later, as Diego welcomes him too. Paloma wants to propose a toast and it’s four cheers por Casa Blanca!!! There are last glances of the gathering, all the happy couples, and then a kiss between Paloma and Diego…

FIN


And to wrap up this summary, I thought I’d just quote the spur-of-the-moment couplet that Juancho came up with to honor Paloma and Diego at the wedding:

~Entre tristeza y desgracia y amor se la escondía,
encontró Diego a Paloma y dijo "Cuando seas mía".

is anybody online now?

hi
i missed yesterday's episode and believe me i know by now that it is the wrongest episode to miss.
you should see old women in my office this morning...
i want to do all i can not to miss today's sha.
it's amazing the twist and turns in this soap...lovely scripting.

do you think migel knows his is the child in berenies' womb? i itch for that secret to come out in the open. but berenise is mos def evil, how could she have that much of sin in her record and still be able to accuse her supposed husband of infidelity...and by the way, how come soledad is just too sure of the truth about berenises' pregnancy? this production is top grade, i'm impressed with all the brains in the crew.