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StonesA:
Please Sir i want to ask, what remedy can i use for my own bad breath,i know the cause of it but i don't know what type medicine i can use to cure it

I once read that metronidazole (flagyl) works. I used it for 7bdays (6 tabs per day). During the period 9f administration of the drug, my halitosis went down drastically but then it came back with full force after I stopped the drug.

englishmart:

All I know is that, it's much easier to find chilled water and air-conditioned atmosphere in hell than for Tinubu to put a thread through the eye of a needle.

Englishmart

Have you been to hell?

I am so sorry my contribution is coming so late from my last time here. I actually created this moniker just for this topic and at a time, I had to change my last phone in June 2021. I had forgotten the password to this account and all my efforts at retrieving 8t yielded no results. I had to repair my old phone just to retrieve the password to this account.

I did mention some probiotics which looked promising based on the positive reviews I got on Amazon. I'd try them - spent a fortune to import them to Nigeria. I purchased 3 bottles of 30 tabs each to be used for 90 days within which there must be significant improvement as promised by the 0roducers of the probiotics in USA. However, after using the supplements for more than 75 days without any noticeable improvement, I wrote the organisation selling the products expressing my frustrations at not getting the desired results. Below is their response to my complaint:

[/i][/color]Hi. Our Oral 4B has the maximum amount of BLIS K12 and BLIS M18 available today (over 4B+ CFUs (Colony Forming Units) and our customers have and continue to experience excellent results when used in combination with a good oral hygiene routine. I consulted with our medical advisory team and they strongly recommend that you see a dental professional to rule out any underlying causes, such as periodontal disease, sinus issues, or gastrointestinal disease. If you have an underlying issue you will need to be treated with more than oral probiotics. Please be sure to tell your doctor that you have been taking oral probiotics with 4B+ CFUs or BLIS K12 and M18 for 3 months so they understand that this is a serious issue and don't dismiss it as you simply not caring for yourself. It's unfortunate that our Oral 4B is not the answer for you right now. Hopefully, your doctor will be able to determine the underlying issue. Please keep us posted. Sincerely, Kate -PUR Nutraceuticals[i]

I went to my personal physician upon reading this response for further consultation but I was surprised and disappointed by his response. He reduced my 17 years of agony to mere psychological. He says 95% of those who think they suffer from halitosis do not actually suffer from it but it is in their head. I disagreed with him on this and gave him practical instances. He maintained his theory and when I saw that it was useless arguing with him, I quit discussing it with him

I have used several herbal teas in between both local and imported and there seems to be no end in sight.

Reading from you has also given me an insight into more areas of research and I'll also keep researching. I was in the UK mid last year but the Covid-19 pandemic did not give me chance to move around much. I intend to go again before the year runs out and I am already researching on places to visit to get more medical advice. I'll also bring up the areas you have mentioned.

I'll give an update if there is anything before or after my UK visit

All the best!

thatcuteguy20:
@AboveandBeyond0.

It's great to see the life you've built with this major setback. You're a fighter and I admire that.

UPDATE on the Tonsillectomy.

I had the Tonsillectomy, costs 350k, spent around 400k+, difficult painful recovery process but I'm fully recovered.

Sadly, It didn't work. Matter of fact, the tonsils were helping, as the problem grew from worse to terribly worse. It's been months after the Tonsillectomy, I've completely healed but I get the decayed blood smell now. Like a surgical would healing, funny I can smell it now.

I'm inclined to think that translates to my throat as the culprit since bacteria is acting on the surgical site even after healing giving off the "surgical blood smell" but all my assumptions has costs me over 1 million naira now and the spending hasn't stopped..I'm exhausted, tired of assumptions.

My Conclusions is thus: for anyone that reads this in the near future.

1. If your BB fills an entire room, no matter how big..IT is Systemic. Oral causes BB dosnt go far..like 2 feet max. I have a friend with 2 DECAYING teeth which "they" have refused to remove for fear of doctors.. the BB "they" have is only perceived at Very close (probably kissing distance) range. What can be worse than decaying tooth?

2. If your tonsils don't have visible stones..leave it alone.

3. Doctors and dentists will exploit your desperation, know what you're doing and be careful. Do not patronize any herbal or tradomedical "holistic" liars..they're all thieves no matter the branding.

4. If BB comes out from your nose even when ur not talking..it is systemic.
Systemic BB in my experience is propagated by the lungs, so the Bad breath odor is actually in your exhaled breath..not in a localized location.. imagine when living (breathing) becomes offensive to another person?

Here's my theory. Systemic BB is caused by a failed or disrupted process of one or more of your internal organs - Liver, Kidney, stomach and lungs. It could be either of them or combination of more than one.

When that happens toxins (VSCs) that are supposed to be excreted through default pathways ENTER INTO YOUR BLOODSTREAM which is then expelled through your lungs with the air you breath out. The breath from lungs literally tells you the state of your internal health or system.

Reason with me, the liver filters blood from toxins and all of that, if the liver fails to do so properly the toxins (VSC) backtrack or escape into your bloodstream, which is circulated through your body and gets to your lungs. Your lungs expels the gases from your bloodstream through your exhaled breath which is now containing VSC, it goes out through the airways and it's expelled through your nose and mouth as chronic BB.

Even if u wash your mouth with bleach, you're wasting your time the odor others are perceiving (dat u most likely can't perceive- it's frustrating I know) is embedded IN THE VERY AIR YOU'RE BREATHING OUT.

Research BLOOD BORNE HALITOSIS. It's difficult to threat because every systemic activity (stomach- digestion, Liver- filteration, kidneys- same all processes ends up in the bloodstream.

If u have stomach problems or leaky gut, it still ends up in the bloodstream expelled through your lungs. That's the reason real chronic halitosis is far reaching. I've recorded a halitosis reaching distance of about 18feet from the subject..Yes 18feet in an open environment.

What could be worse than that? No I wasn't born with it.. Nobody in my family or family tree has it.

I'm burned out, it's hard not to get depressed, Yes I get depressed, who wouldn't?, but I will never give up, to every question there is an answer.

Till my next post, stay kind.

I am so sorry my contribution is coming so late from my last time here. I actually created this moniker just for this topic and at a time, I had to change my last phone in June 2021. I had forgotten the password to this account and all my efforts at retrieving 8t yielded no results. I had to repair my old phone just to retrieve the password to this account.

I did mention some probiotics which looked promising based on the positive reviews I got on Amazon. I'd try them - spent a fortune to import them to Nigeria. I purchased 3 bottles of 30 tabs each to be used for 90 days within which there must be significant improvement as promised by the 0roducers of the probiotics in USA. However, after using the supplements for more than 75 days without any noticeable improvement, I wrote the organisation selling the products expressing my frustrations at not getting the desired results. Below is their response to my complaint:

[/color][/i]Hi. Our Oral 4B has the maximum amount of BLIS K12 and BLIS M18 available today (over 4B+ CFUs (Colony Forming Units) and our customers have and continue to experience excellent results when used in combination with a good oral hygiene routine. I consulted with our medical advisory team and they strongly recommend that you see a dental professional to rule out any underlying causes, such as periodontal disease, sinus issues, or gastrointestinal disease. If you have an underlying issue you will need to be treated with more than oral probiotics. Please be sure to tell your doctor that you have been taking oral probiotics with 4B+ CFUs or BLIS K12 and M18 for 3 months so they understand that this is a serious issue and don't dismiss it as you simply not caring for yourself. It's unfortunate that our Oral 4B is not the answer for you right now. Hopefully, your doctor will be able to determine the underlying issue. Please keep us posted. Sincerely, Kate -PUR Nutraceuticals[i][color=#006600]

I went to my personal physician upon reading this response for further consultation but I was surprised and disappointed by his response. He reduced my 17 years of agony to mere psychological. He says 95% of those who think they suffer from halitosis do not actually suffer from it but it is in their head. I disagreed with him on this and gave him practical instances. He maintained his theory and when I saw that it was useless arguing with him, I quit discussing it with him.

I have used several herbal teas in between both local and imported and there seems to be no end in sight.

Reading from you has also given me an insight into more areas of research and I'll also keep researching. I was in the UK mid last year but the Covid-19 pandemic did not give me chance to move around much. I intend to go again before the year runs out and I am already researching on places to visit to get more medical advice. I'll also bring up the areas you have mentioned.

I'll give an update if there is anything before or after my UK visit

All the best!

thatcuteguy20:
EDIT: UPDATE on My BB issue. If you see someone with Halitosis, don't laugh or assume you have better hygiene, stop saying brush your teeth or use mouthwash, halitosis is more than that, just count yourself lucky.

Sadly, it turns out the H.Pylori medication knocked off some bad bacteria while on the meds.. so yes , BB left but returned with full force when I finished the medication. BB is almost always a bacteria problem, it's a question of where? Source? What part of ur body? It could be anywhere, it's a curse, literally.

I won't come here to whine about how unfair life has been or how poorly you're treated by everyone due to this condition, I'd encourage everyone going thru it to NEVER give up.

Here's what I've tried Medically
1. Consulted a GI- everything is fine, was given PPI and antacids, nothing worked. I've tried digestive enzymes, acidophilus, unsweetened yoghurt, sugar & diary free diet, all the types of antibiotics that exists, a whole lot of other medications.. BB unscathed, not even a lil bit.

2. Consulted 6 ENT specialist/ surgeon- Had a Paransal CT Scan (that shit is expensive)-Everything fine, ear fine, nose fine, however tonsils r inflamed, no pain or visible stones. I also have throat irritation with a very rare sighting called "Cobblestone throat"- I had to educate some on what they were seeing..it's rare.

3. Consulted 4 dentists- All praised me for my impeccable oral hygiene ☺️, clean mouth, clean tongue, white teeth, no problems, YES I HAVE ALWAYS PRACTICED IMPECCABLE ORAL HYGIENE even as a kid, 3 toothbrushes, tongue scraper,pack of dental floss, brush at least twice daily long before this problem started. Dental appointments end with an S&P..which does nothing. Had a dental surgery based on dentist recommendation still BB:100 me :0.

4. Consulted 2 GPs: the worst sets of human beings on Earth, held their nose thru the session, after giving him my full medical history n investigations he told me to go brush my teeth, lol, later said use another mouth wash, see another dentist, while still holding his nose...

5. Tried all the home remedy u can find on Google, expensive to really cheap ones, followed them religious, BB: 1000, ME: 0.

6. I've used several Native traditional treatment, both local and the packaged touche ones. I remember spending 200k ( 3 months treatment) on one that swore on his life his expensive herbs will work,

I've used Therabreath Maximum strength mouthwash- costs abt 17k
I've used hyperbiotics pro dental - costs 20k.both did nothing..don't waste ur money, I have all sorts of expensive nasal sprays in case it's from my nose n CT scan didn't spot it.

I've spent over 600k+(no jokes) n still haven't seen anything dat will reduce this(not Remove o), a doctor's appointment costs 15k per session, I've visited d above listed on several consultations before moving to the next. I've done surgery, CT scan costs close to 100k. I've done series of testing n turns out I'm perfectly healthy.

Before you shout spiritual, I've done all sorts of prayer n fasting over the years..calm down.

As a last resort, I've booked for a tonsillectomy..cost about 300k n I'd inform if it works in ending this curse.

Y did I bother posting these? Someone in the near future will read this n b comforted, as I still benefited from old posts( some from 2008- some 12 years ago) on this platform.

I'd like to iterate it's important you do not make fun of people with this curse. All of us (I'm sure) get suicidal thoughts, some have committed suicide, we're lonely and alone, without friends, without family, without jobs most times..if u won't help, just keep walking, with your mouth closed of course.

Till my next Post. Stay kind.

Life can be unfair. Imagine brushing 3 times a day and your mouth still stinks while people who can not stand with you shoulder to shoulder in oral hygiene have fresh breath.

I first noticed my BB in 2004 when I was rounding off my youth service. Before this time, I had once noticed that my roommate never liked studying with me despite my clear academic advantage (we studied the same course). I had taken him on a course revision one day up close (our faces just few inches apart) and all of a sudden he flinched, his face squeezed and turned sideways. I was puzzled and I was trying to fathom what could have happened. He subsequently gave an excuse that there was something he needed to urgently do at a mutual friend's place. That was the first time I was aware of my BB. It was mild at this time and unless I was in your face, you could never tell I had BB. I had girlfriends at this time and I participated actively in campus politics well. So, I would say my social life in school was not bad.

In 2004, just about 2 months before passing out, I was speaking with a friend from a modest distance and I noticed he stepped back a bit. The expression on his face also showed that he was uncomfortable. He momentarily turned his face sideways. There begins the beginning of my struggle with chronic halitosis. Right from that day, I started losing my confidence and I feel so conscious of the people who are standing/sitting close to me whenever I speak, looking at their facial expressions.

Just like you, I began my research...I became a regular caller at cyber cafes (data subscription and mobile browsing was not prevalent at this time) and started trying out so many remedies but my BB seemed to be getting worse. I've had countless embarrassing moments and I had once become an emotional wreck. I almost lost my sanity.

So, I have been living with chronic BB for the last 17 years and although I face very embarrassing situations every now and then, I have learnt to live with it (except I want to go into depression).

I'm a Branch Manager in one of the new generation banks and I have been working there for more than 14 years. The fact that I was able to scale the rigors of their selection process even with my condition and rising in my career over the years remains a source of my gratitude to God.

While I continue my search for a permanent solution to this problem, I feel obligated to give people like you hope that there will definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I've changed 5 cars, built 2 houses, married a beautiful woman (I mean that) and had beautiful kids within the period of my BB tribulation and I am still standing here. If I can, you can bro.

I can see you have read far and wide on the topic of CBB and I have learnt so much from your write-up. I am currently researching in the area of probiotics as remedy and I will always come here to give updates on how it goes.

I have just read about these products:
Clinical Grade Oral Probiotics * 4 Billion CFUs of BLIS K12® & BLIS M18® and I'll try them out and see what that brings too.

Stay strong bro...tough time never lasts.