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Politics / Re: Woman With Empty Pot Joins Protest In Ojota Lagos by absoluteSuccess: 4:20pm On Aug 01
wow, end of discussion
Celebrities / Re: Throwback Picture Of Onyeka Onwenu & Yvonne Chaka Chaka by absoluteSuccess: 8:05am On Aug 01
CJStarz:

Oya, follow me make we go back....to those days wey dem dey tie sweet and coloured ice cream in waterproofs.,....those days of Treetop juice and Planta Butter.....those days of Black and White Sanyo and National TV.....those days wey we dey go school without sandals......those days wey we dey eat 3 square meals in a day.......those days when there was no kidnapping or banditry......Oh my dear, let's go back to those good old days when one lived peaceably with his or her neighbour, when a child belongs to the community to raise......those days of no Akpabio and Tinubu in power.......
May the good Lord help Nigerians in Jesus Name

I remember crossing the Lagos Abeokuta Expressway to and from primary school, it is noting in the morning, but when you are coming back in the afternoon, the hot tarmac coal tar will be waiting for you. Only the children of the rich wears school sandal way back.

Thanks to the often available neighbours from different ethnicity and backgrounds who acted the role of "parents" to everyone way back.

To God be the glory, we still made it.

Sleep well mama Africa, Onyeka Onwenu, "if you love me, stay for me". God loves you the most ma'am.

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Politics / Re: Expect Political Coup Against Tinubu – Primate Ayodele by absoluteSuccess: 7:29am On Jul 30
We've always had terrible sets of leadership that this administration ought to make a name for itself by being a new hope of the Nigerian project. Rev'd Thomas Malthus feared for his own country, but at the end, his words led to improvement of the same people.

I am believing God that President Tinubu is a God fearing, posterity conscious leader who will learn from his own mistakes and the mistakes of the past to position Nigeria in the right direction. Let's avoid "zig-zag syndrome" as a people, every problem offers progress.

What shall become of a people who will continue to fail and fail and fail? A change ought to come, its not about different people at the helm of affairs, its about change in attitude of the very same people at the helms of affairs.

Without that, there would be no end to coup de'tat that leads nowhere, lest we are more like the people we disdains in thought if not worse. Thank God for Tinubu and his sense of humor that is due to every hero. We make mistakes, we learn fast and we fail forward.

If we fall, we shall stand.
Politics / Re: Minimum Wage: A Revolution That Will Consume Nigeria's Hold by absoluteSuccess: 7:22am On Jul 30
jkpbestseries:
If the economy is good no need of Minimum Wage.

Very true.

We've always had terrible sets of leadership that this administration ought to make a name for itself by being a new hope of the Nigerian project. Rev'd Thomas Malthus feared for his own country, but at the end, his words led to improvement of the same people.

I am believing God that President Tinubu is a God fearing, posterity conscious leader who will learn from his own mistakes and the mistakes of the past to position Nigeria in the right direction.

What shall become of a people who will continue to fail and fail and fail? A change ought to come.
Politics / Re: FG Mass Block Sim Cards To Destabilize Protest. by absoluteSuccess: 10:28pm On Jul 28
Very frustrating, I don't understand this country again, kept praying we don't find ourselves in another "slave-trade" kind of trap in this age and time if we are without a direction at this age as the most populous black nation for sheer greed of man and their zombie soldiers who cannot tell between political support, tribal affiliation and Stockholm syndrome.

My MTN line blocked. Although linked to NIN, my inlaws MTN, the same. Etisalat, emergency, want to use USSD, no network; wanted to use card, I began going from atm to atm. Just entering and I kept wandering what exactly is going on? I pray nobody have an emergency in this hour. A man is not saved by evil tribalism but truth, your neigbour is that Good Samaritan that helped you in dire need.

If Nigerians were to be Europeans, the world will never witness any form of progress as one tribe will destroy every good scientific finding of the other on the platter of tribalism. Keep digging each others graves. A good shepherd cares for one -the most disadvantaged of his own flock! At the end, you will help the politicians and their children to their "heaven" while you settle down to your tribal "hell".

Se ejo lawa f'aye gbo ni?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: The Iconic Kamala Harris Campaign Slogan Is.. by absoluteSuccess: 7:56am On Jul 25
The most used word is 'back', and what will register in the subconscious is 'back'. They are saying what they don't want but they are actually struggling with what they don't want. They were not saying exactly what they want.

"I will never be poor, I refuse yo be poor!" How am I to help you fill-in the gap when I don't know what "not being poor"means to you?

"I am going to be an absolute success!" Okay, now you are talking, every step of yours in the subconscious is a minuscule move towards success.

That their copy is 'backwards' to say the least. Just my take, Oyinbo no dey make mistake.
Politics / Minimum Wage: A Revolution That Will Consume Nigeria's Hold by absoluteSuccess: 7:48am On Jul 19
i think we should give this a thought as we have become the laughing stock of nations. We are on a downward spiral that if not well managed will eventually consume us. But again, the glory of a nation is how she hatched a comeback from the gloom that once cast itself upon her. Nigeria is such a nation, and we have hope.

We're on a journey as a nation. Thank God for the leadership and the good spirit of the Nigerian masses. No right thinking government or individual should toy with this fabric of the Nigerian state. Some mock the country as not being a sane clime, its actually sane in her own way that it has refused to go the way of Haiti or Bosnia.

Minimum Productivity

By now, what the government of the day should champion is minimum productivity, it ought to swing to action and capitalize on the recently won victory on devolution of power at the third tier of government to reach the grassroots and engage the teeming jobless but eager youth (and other demography or social construct) constructively. it should not be for selfish political ends all the time.

As the government spends on minimum wages, much should be reserved to grow the teeming populace from the shadow of poverty to abundance of self sufficiency. It could be through education or spirited national reorientation. The focus must be to empower the sensibility of the Nigerian to productive thinking and simple basic production for local and metaverse markets.

The Need For A Nationwide Protest

I mean who ought to protest if not Nigerians? Everything that is going on is calling for no retrospective thinking from the atomic level of society as long as there are bad people to blame, it seems. But the next point is, what is the theme of the protest? It never touch down on the very root cause of Nigeria's problem. There is no way you can go anywhere as a country no matter what you try, in the 'peculiar mess' scenario playing out in Nigeria's marketplace.

I tend towards Yoruba linguistics for an instance. Here is it: at one time in her history, the king is the 'head merchant' (Oloja) and thank God that a nugget from this same word family remain so with the great Igala people, whose paramount ruler goes by the title 'Onoja'. What our ancestors did was that they created all their civilizations around a market zone. If that is long rooted in our history, why do we have a nation whose economy is in shambles?

No One Must Speak Against Our 'Grocery Millionaires'

Before we start blaming the bad people, let us check the rest of the fingers that points backwards. Let's say we have 200 countries in the world and we got so carried away that we are buying from 150 countries of the world every basic thing we need and almost all we do is labour just enough to buy what we needed, what are we to the rest of the world?

But let's assume we are a nation of 200 people and 150% of our population is productive? We will have excess that will blot out the irresponsible 50% people and event will force them to be useful in their utter laziness, because one way or the other, they will be propelled by need for some kind of 'status' to move a wheel in the direction of progress.

Why are we not protesting against our own people and ourselves that indigenous manufacturing abilities is going down first from merchandising that is not self protective of local manufacturers? Why don't we organize a sensitization walk and public lecture to create awareness of the downward trends that this posit for our nationhood? how will this affect us as individuals eventually? Shall we not completely lose our buying power if local production completely fails?

I mean the crop of teenagers this days who are flaunting ill gotten wealth in my neighbourhood ehn. They are 'the prince' of Nigeria.

Balance of Nature

I don't know if that word means anything to the youth. We go to school to become employable. Yet, some Nigerian youths are involved in yahoo, some are investing in crypto so that they can be bitcoin billionaires suddenly anytime the next high shall come. now just peep from this window to the days of our fathers, when we were the children in the family, how did they live? They EARNED their EXISTENCE! Can we sell anything we use as "leverage" to them and they will readily say "wow"?

This people we don't want to be like earn their existence by each contributing his or her qouta to the balance of nature of things. Yes now lets close that window and step back to the couch a bit, how many our age mates in our generation has become Mark Zuckerberg of the internet or better still Elon Musk? So, what are we doing with the technology of our time?

Now those who love to parade themselves as 'the Jews of Africa' which they are, how many times has the Chinese been forced to Nnewi to patronize goods from Africa? I mean what is food for the goose is food for the gander. And I really salute my amiable Yoruba youths, ebi npawa-oje Japa. Iwe kiko laisi oko ati ada: education without minimum productivity is void.

Not most of what we pride as "business" is the reason the economy is in bad shape, we are not producing any nather, we are mere middlemen making our position as such the greatest thing after slice bread. A bird has laid an egg and it went out shouting as though it has laid the universe. What percentage of all the goods consume in our region is produced by our business?

Educated To Japa

Western Education is great, but like the people of old often says, they (oyinbo) don't teach you some of the secrets. Who does that? If I teach you my trade secret, would you remain my customer? I only teach you how to use my product. That's how I "educate" my customer who goes to town boasting that he's educated. Meanwhile, he can never survive on his own without me. Anytime he's in trouble, he run in my direction. But when the going is good, he's all over the place boasting.

The best analogy that capture this scenario is the use of AI. By implication, I will create chatgpt so good that you will never have to worry to think again. You will be thinking I have done you the best favour, when I have actually blocked your thinking faculty forever. Don't get me wrong, use new opportunity to create your own opportunity, not to use it to completely destroy your innate abilities before they emerge.
And don't be surprise if robot takes over the course you have studied in the University too.

we hardly tend to the things we inherit as family business. Those whose fathers were carpenters loath the name or smell attached to the profession of their fathers; those whose dads were electricians hate to have anything to do with the same identity; those whose dads owns a thriving business wanted to travel far in order not to identify with the identities of their fathers. Who will change this anti-progress culture?

The revolution

I have just alluded to few things that are at the core holding us back as a country as my intellect could afford me. The physical problem that we are making into problem is mirage, the main problem will remain even if you remove what you assume as the problem. It has been getting worse gradually till our time, and with the help of the internet, we as Nigerian youths can eschew tribalism and attack the holds that has kept us as a mediocre people. that I think is honourable, so that the next generation will have a springboard to continue.
Politics / Re: N70,000 New Minimum Wage: This Is What Whatsapp Calculated (Picture) by absoluteSuccess: 5:33am On Jul 19
I pick this saying from somewhere and its a saying from Baron Rothchild, that the best time to buy is when the nation bleeds, and that it doesn't matter if the blood is yours. My interpretation: when things are very tough, the best place to look is to bleed yourself to invest in your future.

Sorry I'm an advocate of productivity. So, if this windfall will drop somehow, never get carried away by any momentary relieve it might bring. Instead, invest in your future. Think of any productive or production-based business, not consumer-based business that puts you as the middleman to bleed the nation and yourself at the long run.

No amount of money is ever enough. Think productively, at the very end, you will find an answer.

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Turns 63 Today by absoluteSuccess: 5:12am On Jul 19
happy 63rd birthday to you sir, more years in good health and amiable spirit to steer the rudder of the nation of our people to the right cause that destiny has bestowed on you as a leader in this generation.

More auction to function in all facets of life.

LOL, never knew this was why I dream of you this morning, playing football with friends like my neighbor and your ardent supporter used to do (with the little ones in the neighbourhood) during his spare times.

More success to you sir.

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Politics / Re: President Tinubu Renames National Theatre As Wole Soyinka Centre For Arts by absoluteSuccess: 2:43pm On Jul 12
God bless you Bola Ahmed Tinubu, GCFR.

Happy Birthday, Prof. Wole Soyinka, great soul.

Age with grace sir.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Cameroon President's Daughter, Brenda Hopes Coming Out Will Change Anti-Gay Laws by absoluteSuccess: 8:25pm On Jul 11
Eastman20:




nigga u too like gay stuff...see d kind of energy u are dispensing here to support gays... nawa oo

no carry dis ur nonsense enter street sha make dem no cut off ur two legs

He has all the details, only waiting around and hoping for the future "champion of gay" to legalize it so he could move in and out.

He has prepared for the day but coping with the hope that the "budding gay-nation" will eventually overrun public sensibility to his dreamed "normal" some day.
Romance / Re: Not Everyone You See Is A Human Being And I Can Tell The Difference by absoluteSuccess: 4:20pm On Jul 11
MercyStan:


I can only see the smoke at the time the picture was taken. It's imprinted in the image; like a shadow.

Newer cameras have a way of capturing this color. Older cameras can't.

When I look at pictures of my grandfather when he was alive, I still see his light orange color. But when I saw his corpse he didn't have any smoke.

what will happen if you look at the same picture of when he was alive again now that he's dead?
Romance / Re: Not Everyone You See Is A Human Being And I Can Tell The Difference by absoluteSuccess: 4:17pm On Jul 11
When spiritual power consults internet, it simply declares it has its own limitations.
Romance / Re: Not Everyone You See Is A Human Being And I Can Tell The Difference by absoluteSuccess: 4:12pm On Jul 11
MercyStan:


Majority of those with the white smoke are babies. I speculate it must indicate a sort of purity of the soul?

Every person I've seen the white smoke on always radiates a sort of positive energy, kindness and innocence that is palpable.

This white smoke isn't related to any religious affiliation as I've seen the white smoke on christians, Muslims, atheists and people practicing eastern religions. Whenever I watch TV and see a popular person with white smoke I always Google their names to know the religion they belong and it's always diverse.

Every serial killer I've seen always has a black smoke. The serial killers observation is a very unique and interesting one as I don't notice this on say people that kill people out of anger or during a fight or quarrel or on armed robbers that murder people during a robbery.

I notice this black colored smoke in some seemingly normal people and in some people that have committed crimes, but with serial killers EVERY SINGLE ONE of them that I've seen ALWAYS has a black smoke. I've never seen one that has no smoke, white smoke or the common light orange smoke.

My speculation is that this black smoke indicates a corruption of their soul by something inhuman or something otherworldly? If this is the case then it's sad because I also see the black smoke on newly born babies.

I also see a lot of black smoke among powerful world leaders, some popular celebrities and some religious leaders. I won't mention any names unless specifically asked about the person.

This is just the opening phase.

You will become a psychic doctor in the nearest future, rendering services to every religious adherents and consulting session for people that want to speak with their dead loved ones.

You have "a powerful grandfather" where the "power" traced back to.

This is ourtruth sort of seance.

Sarafina.

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Culture / Re: Yoruba History Supported By DNA. The Eurasia connection by absoluteSuccess: 11:24am On Jul 06
Dsimmer:


Yes, righteousness is a priority. I once stated that the 3 things which I noticed Ifa often enlighten people on are Ela (Orunmila), Iwa and Ori.

As a matter of fact, Iwa and Ori are the core attributes/characters of Ela (Omoloju Olodumare) who represents intelligence and righteousness. Ori represent intelligence while Iwa represent righteousness which are both the core characters of Ela.

Funnily, these three words are present in Israelites' language. Lol.

As a matter of fact, Ifa always mention both the primordial Orisha and the Yoruba human Orishas (Yoruba ancestors) while laying emphasis on the fact that Human does become an Orisha. Hence, anyone who's righteous (Iwa) and intelligent (Ori) to enlighten or invent things end up becoming an Orisha. So, human should always desire to be righteous and acquire wisdom to enlighten others or create things to develop their society, thus making it easier for their fellow humans. Such human is an Orisha📌

On a side note, I love Yoruba word play. Ifa who speaks parables also loves exploring these word plays while speaking in parables to the Yoruba for the Yoruba to decode it with their intelligence.

You made absolute sense in the above piece. Ori lonise, eda l'ayanmo. Ori lo ni ise, Ori ni Oluse, Eda ni a yan ise ori mo. Bi eniyan ko lati fun ori ni ise, ti oluwa re n kanju, b'oya nitori ola (wealth) tabi ipo (position) tabi lati je gbajumo lawujo (fame), onitoun a siwahu, oluwa re a si padanu ise ti Ori yan-an mo gan-an. Ni ni suuru fun Ori, iwa (righteousness) ni, aini suuru f'ori, iwa ni eleyi bakanna ninu ede Yoruba. Olukuluku wa lani iwa wa lati yan, lati mojuto, lati baje tabi lati tunse. Nitemi, mo gba pe ko si eni pipe tase Olodumare.

owe to pe "Iwa l'oba awure" fi yewa pe, bi eniyan tile ni oogun bi Aroni, sugbon ti ko ni iwa, a deyin le awon eniyan jinna si ara re dandan: o dabi e-sun owe to wipe, "oju nii juwe igbo, ese nii f'ona oja hanyan, amo orisa ogiyan onii f'ona ola han ara Ikire lailai..." mi o mo nkan ti won gba l'owo ara won. Ota naa po tobe to rekoja sinu owe Yoruba.

Ifa je onisuuru eniyan nigba tire, asiwaju rere sini pelu. Owe to toka iwa re fidi eleyi mule: "baaba ni 'o dowo ifa', ifa aani, 'o dowo awon aworo - sasa'" Eleyi tunmo si wipe, ifa kii fi ara re pe oga l'ori awon elegbe re ti won jo nde igbo kiri fun ibudo, rara. kanran yen, o maa nri won gege bi aworo-sasa: itunmo aworo-sasa? A-wo-ero-ti-orisa-sa. Awon alabojuto ero Ipo ati ero Ofa ti Ifa maa nsaba toka si.

Awon wo ni ero Ipo?

Hippo, awon ero ti won je alatileyin fun iran Yoruba lati etikun awon ara Moro, (Moor, Mauri, Moore-mope) titi ti won fi gunle si Ofa tabi Ile Ife ni opin irin ajo won. Awon awo naa lo deyin di babalawo, gboloun naa ni orisun awon oro to saba maa ntunmo si. Awon gbolohun onitunmo Yoruba saba maa nsapejuwe iriri won ninu ede Yoruba, nitorinaa, won wulo fun itesiwaju imo ede ati itan ile Yoruba lopolopo.

Ki Oluwa tunbo maa fun-un yin ni ogbon imo ati oye fun itesiwaju iwadi ti e nse pelu akoko yin, ami.

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Culture / Re: Yoruba History Supported By DNA. The Eurasia connection by absoluteSuccess: 2:00pm On Jul 05
Dsimmer:
Anyways, whether Yoruba were Israelites or not, they've gone to carve their cradle with their several ancestral cultural heroes with beautiful cultural exploits such as Obatala, Sango, Oya, Orunmila (Ela), Ogun, Olokun, Oduduwa, Osun, Osoosi, Oranmiyan etc..

Also, what Olodumare expect from human is righteousness (integrity) and intelligent creativity to improve their society, just like his visible manifestation had done by creating the universe which is an intelligent creative world.

Very true there. Iwa l'oba awure, character is a king, prayer is its subject.
Culture / Re: Yoruba History Supported By DNA. The Eurasia connection by absoluteSuccess: 1:58pm On Jul 05
BabaRamota1980:


Someone had mentioned before, and I think it might have been Olu317 or absolutesuccess, that eriwo is ancient Yoruba word meaning river. The word is lost through times. From eriwo is the derivative mariwo, a tree found on river banks.

In use, eriwoya (pronounced eriwoooyahhh) is a command, preceeding sacred incantation. In other words, a code request for access into sacredness. Going with your theory on the relativity between Yoruba and Children of Israel, could ERIWOYAH, be the sacred code Moses used to part the river? It's a theory, Id like to hear your weight on it.

very well, way back, way back, way back.

Ihale - chutzpah
Hale -- frigthen, rake upon
Ha le ni l'ori--make noise on someone.

Ha, hale: frighten, rake, make noise on someone.

When the Israelites were laying siege on Jericho, the security of the town stood firm. From within the walls, the hullabaloo of the attacking bandits so to speak is 'mere chutzpah', judging from the fact that those who are going around the wall do not have war-ram to crush the wall of defense, so its all "ihale".

The language of the Israelites should have words from its neighbours in it, such that if words were to take their etymology from tribal interactions, bit and piece of the shared history would be imprinted on the morphology of such words generations much later. Hale till date in Yoruba is the preceding acts and noise before a fight.

Hale is the verb form of the noun Ihale : "ejo o, ema ha le mi l'ori nt'ori Olo'un!" (please for God sake, don't rake on my head!) What became rake in Yoruba psyche might have come from "noise". Hale (chutzpah) is akin to hale (noise on), the prefix in Hale-luyah. So from the event of the fall of Jericho's wall, lets assume the noise (ariwo) of Yah was at the point the wall came crashing down.

Now, that can easily become a cultural mantra, such as Haleluyah has been: and we can have a re-cursory to it in cultural linguistics of people who might have had anything to do with the said experience. Hale, (make noise on it), lu (create porosity) yah (tear up). This means the Yoruba language have faint recollections perceivable in the language of the Levant from theological resources that has come to us.

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Politics / Re: Dangote, Elumelu, Rewane Enlisted As Tinubu Inaugurates Economic Team by absoluteSuccess: 10:19pm On Jul 04
We will get it right as a nation, we will surely overcome.

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Politics / Re: FG Begins Expansion Of Ota-Idiroko Highway by absoluteSuccess: 7:39pm On Jul 04
heysquare:

That road belongs to Ogun State govt and not federal.

that's true, how they relegated the Awori to the background.
Family / Re: Suraj "Jarus" Oyewole's Statement About Assault Charge by absoluteSuccess: 7:38pm On Jul 04
God bless your home with peace and wisdom from above sir.
Politics / Re: FG Begins Expansion Of Ota-Idiroko Highway by absoluteSuccess: 4:03pm On Jul 04
Oluwaseun.

Remember Atan-Ado-Odo road too, repairing that ancient road will help reduce food and produce price as farmers in that corridor will surely be able to reach Lusada, Oja Ota with their produce on time, making available foodstuff and agro-allied products in the market just as you have it at Oke-Odo and Ketu.

Let the government open up this part of the country and others like it to cushion the effect of inflation going on around Lagos and its environs, as well as other places in Nigeria.

God bless.

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Politics / Re: How A Yoruba Barber In 1925 Looks by absoluteSuccess: 12:45pm On Jul 04
This is how we barb way back, with elders who knew how to use razor blade and soap.

much later, we invented 'blade and comb'

Then when we became a bit older, we visited the barber's shop.

Its not convenient but we can't complain.

We call it "pombe" or 'farioro'.

The female version of this rough-and-ready style is ajankolokolo.

There's a custom song for it.

still, we rise. ka dobale f'arara ko pe a ma ga.
Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 11:28pm On Jul 03
ravensckar:
Another Jarus Almajiri spotted! cheesy cheesy cheesy

How do you identify them? They all have a common denominator; religious dogmatism. This one even use "kewu" as his signature. Alufa Olodo! angry angry angry

Even MC Oluomo wey be "Senior Agbero" never posted that he beats his wife. Jarus is a shameless foo.l who probably reasons from his anu.s.

There's no justification for Domestic Violence! You guys should stop hiding under the cloak of religion to perpetrate your barbarism. One bubblehead was even quoting the hadith to support Jarus. Orisirisi!

#Say_No_To_Domestic_Violence

Just imagine I came online claiming I beat my wife after she has abused me, and even sat on my neck. I am not the real efulefu, the person who actually believe me deserve some kind of award in "maximum believery". Such a guy will never greet me again if I don't continue beating her and post the report online.

These people will follow him to court and give him moral encouragement while standing in the dock. The woman has been beating her husband, only recently that the husband became more powerful and the story now change, sort of. This people would leave the case and draw the jury's attention away into their irrelevant drama.

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Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 7:38pm On Jul 03
Sapasenator:


Ase ba mi!

please indulge me a little:

Thanks also for what you shared about your old folks, I really really appreciate. A brother of mine shared similar gist with me that really shaped my thought. You don't have to be beating people up and down to have positive influence on them. Onisuuru nii j'oba l'Hausa.

Your "model family example" often help us have a retrospect into our culture, to see how things used to be in various homes and where we are actually coming from as a people, compare to what we now have as a cosmopolitan society. That's why we says we are "omo-anibi-niran".

Note most of the themes in our childhood moonlight folk tales, they might be subtle "moral compass" to tell us to stave clear of polygamy or manage our temperament when we find ourselves in one somehow. the easiest alternative is to keep off than struggle with it.

God bless our homes and our family.
Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 7:13pm On Jul 03
Sapasenator:


Thank you so much for your abundance of wisdom. Yoruba says "Agba ki wa'loja kori omo tutun wo"

You are welcome dear brother, Oluwa a tunbo fun gbogbo wa ni aseyori, oye ati ogbon pelu imo, nitori wipe oye ni akoko, leyin oye ni imo, leyin imo ni ogbon.

Gege bi awon Musulumi ti maa nso wipe, "imo lo ladinni, ogbon o gbe", babanla otito ni, ko seese ka gbe oko fun enikan lati wa nitori pe ologbon ni. Ti ko ba ni imo, afaimo ko ma si iyonu.

A maa juse fun wa, ase.
Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 7:06pm On Jul 03
Sapasenator:


I agree with you. There is no reason to raise your hands on a woman. That is even considered criminal by most laws and I do not condone or advocate that position by any means. I never saw my dad beat my mom for one single day and do not support violence in any way.

I do not beat a woman, wife, child or a man. I am a strong advocate in communication and dialogue to resolve conflicts.

Thanks very much dear brother. religion must bring out the best in us, not the worst. Either the indigenous or the foreign one. There are many flaws we have to abandon to move forward.

But that notwithstanding, it never means modern man is less crazy, but that at least, we should get it right, family wise, or else the other crazy set of people will use that as an advantage for their pride.
Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 6:49pm On Jul 03
Sapasenator:


It depends if you are in a Muslim country governed by sharia in which case it may be Sunnah/legal to beat your wife. Notice I am talking about the legality here in relation to your question.

Now for Nigeria, the law is the constitution, and beating of wife is considered an assault which is prosecutable under the Nigerian penal code.

I the two cases above, I would never beat a woman under any circumstances except my life is in danger and I am using extreme measures to defend myself.

My brother, our law dares Allah if it alienate wife beating, and by so doing we are never a slave of the Arabs or any Semitic laws. Remember that the Arabs were mushriks, (illiterates), when the Yoruba actually have a system of social guidance that passes as law from time, in form of ifa, which predates the advent of Islam in Yoruba land.

Now listen to what Yoruba proverbs says: "obinrin re seo, won nbe o loo nii gbo, se o fe kan an loogun ni" (your woman offended you, they are begging you and you refuse to listen, do you want to use a weapon on her?) So, touching a woman is as good as using a weapon on her or lying against her that she's using a charm on you.

If you wont beat a woman, you are not a good companion because you are only picking the option that will make you look good to the next woman on your list of marriage.

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Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 6:41pm On Jul 03
advocatejare:

I don’t beat my own wife because I’m not bound by Sunnah or the Quran but those who are under the sharia law and who hold the Quran and sunnah as religious books and laws are committing no crime if they beat their wives

Sure I know, I'm only using you post as citation for my brother, at least he can't go cherrypicking from the Almighty Allah's commandments.

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Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 6:31pm On Jul 03
advocatejare:

Thank you. Wife beating is Islamic

"Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.
Sunan Abu Dawud 11:2142

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."
-Quran 4:34



Sapasenator:


Ooni of Ife, the Onirisa and custodian of Yoruba tradition is polygamous. Most of Yoruba obas are polygamous.

Now, slowly, tell me about the Yoruba culture on polygamy again.

Ooni Of Ife wrote the precept of Ifa that says "okan soso lobinrin dunmo nile oko?"

From the first quote, its also sunah to beat your wife, do you?

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Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 6:14pm On Jul 03
descarado:

No child of polygamous home is happy. None.
It's all about the greediness of the father that don't love his children.

Let the father die and you will see how psychologically messed up those kids are.
A friend from a polygamous background refused to marry till date. He hated his late dad with passion. Mum is second wife. Wonder how the kids of first wife will feel.
Nothing good cones out of polygamy except massaging ego and the ladies chasing after money and name.
Regina Daniel is a perfect example
She succeeded in chasing away the one she met cos she don't wanna share.
Archaic culture that has outlived itself in this modern time.

Brother, that's a very far example. Just think about siblings of the same mama the same papa, like five in number from childhood to old age, where one parental property connects them together. Next, wait till they are old or when their parents are no more.

If this scenario portends a future problem for the siblings, then, you can imagine polygamy.

All these encouragement is just to help the men who are angry with their wives to be calming down because trying to solve one stupid anger or petty vendetta problem, you will cause a bigger, permanent one that will outlive you and rob all of peace of mind.

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Family / Re: Sir Jarus Arrested For Beating His Wife by absoluteSuccess: 6:11pm On Jul 03
Sapasenator:


He is a Muslim - A fact, not a personal opinion.

Muslims permit a polygamous marriage - A fact - Not a personal opinion.

Some polygamous families are happy - A fact - not a personal opinion.

Do you see where I am going? You are free to disprove any of the above and I will show your valid references for my argument.


The Yoruba society have their own cultural orientation that does not support polygamy in any form of it, so if you bring your religion to Yoruba land, it is allowed but you will always have problem imposing your argument on their sensibility, nonetheless, you will always have your way if that is what you want, you are a free moral agent.

In your arguments, he can always be a polygamous, he can marry as many wives as he wanted or any one or system will prescribe. But sensibility demands for one man, one wife as a couple. But we can always do as we want using any available argument. However, when news like this breaks, its an opportunity to tell the truth using folks like this as example.

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