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Illiyahama:
Bia Daniel your stupidity and arrogance reeks to the high heavens. For crying out loud,who the f..k are you? How dare you talk so condescendingly to someone you are owing? Imagine the bullshit you uttered ''I even explained to him that I can only pay him money when I have it.''. You have the effrontery to tell Adeolu that the money you are owing him can only come from drilling jobs when you have the money. Infact ibu ezigbo ta onye ara. Isi adiro gi nma. Nnekwu ara na apu gi.

I wish it was me you had this case with,you would have seen the beast in me. I think Adeolu is too soft with you,else he would have given you the kinda treatment idiots like you understand. You have been dodging when you intend paying him his money rather utter ambiguous bullshit. Where are the equipment's you claimed you bought? Now they are suddenly no longer with you. Believe me.....you have fraudulent intentions.

How can you be holding on to someone's money for over five months and still be saying crap. You dont have a conscience. People like you exploit the milk of human kindness in others.

Meanwhile,pay up the money. Onye ohi.

When I called him a thief everyone came for my head. Gazzuz you can see for yourself.

DECOtech:
I am not a person that delights in the agony of my neighbour and i will not take that which is entitled to another. I will give you what is due to you as agreed but the money must come from drilling jobs.

And for saying this about me, you have proven to be a very stupid person.

For this NL embarrassment, I dont think I can ever forgive you.

You are trying to get me angry as u did yesterday. When are u paying?
How do I know when u have a drilling job? All these seems like tricks to evade refunding

DECOtech:
Ask Adeolu if I was not paying in instalments as we had later agreed

What next now that is the question. This case is very simple

DECOtech:
For those asking why the materials paid for have not been used, a few nairalanders close to me even adeolu knows that I have not fully been participating in drilling activities for almost two years now. As well, those that know me in the auto section can testify that I hardly come online in recent times. This is because I have been engaged and so busy in a different field all this while that I even push away some minor drilling and automobile jobs hence I stated that business has been slow. even at that I have started making payment.

I even told him I am on to a job and will send him some money as soon as I land that job. now I am yet to secure the deal till this moment and Muyiwa is bugging and calling at anytime he likes even while I am in important meetings. I even explained to him that I can only pay him money when I have it.

He cancelled after I had made the transactions.

I did not take delivery of any materials cos they were supposed to be moved from the point of purchase to the site

I honestly was doing that in installments but lack of patience had led him to give me the insult of my life.

I will show you in the picture below

Na wa for u o. Look at the screenshot again. I did not say I was taking u to court. I said even if we go to court there are questions you still have to answer. Read

DECOtech:
You came here and told nairalanders that I am a thief. now you want to resolve what?

Why will you be telling me never to call you again? If I did not do what I did here on nairaland wld you be here? Stop delaying pls. It is agreed hold the 200,000 even tho you don't deserve 10,000 but anyway pay the 175,000. 5 months is enough time.

Illiyahama:
The truth is that Daniel is fraudulent. He had a business with Adeolu and had nothing to do with Adeolu's client. Reading his bullshit epistle i could clearly see him trying to play reverse psychology on folks here. Irrespective of what transpired between them, the fact is they had both agreed to share the loss and Daniel was to pay #200,000 naira while Adeolu would forfeit #200,000 naira also. Five long months have gone down the drain and this dude is talking bullshit.


Why has he not paid the #175,000 since five months? The dude is just trying to pull a wool over our eyes. How can he claim that he bought equipment for over five months and they have remained unused? Where are the equipment's? Daniel for your information, those receipts you uploaded are forged and you should know its a criminal offense to do such.

From the munched conversation between you guys, it was quite glaring that you dont want to pay the OP his money as mutually agreed.

Pay him his money and stop giving excuses.

Thank you. I keep wondering why he is bringing the client into the whole issue while it is with me he has an issue to resolve and funny many are falling for his tactics now he is talking about court case all on 175,000? All this are just tactics to delay or not pay. This case won't be on nairaland in the first place if not for his arrogance yesterday even saying I shld never call him again. So why won't I bring it online?
If not for nairaland how wld I have gotten his attention this quickly?

DECOtech:
Good morning Everyone

Just got to the office and have taking time to read all the comments.

From certain comments made by Muyiwa/Adeolu123 I want to understand a few things.

-I complained about him asking me to give him from the advance he paid me just about 4 days later, and in his defense he said he was employing tactics to retrieve money from me. cos at the time I sent him 100k, his 700k was still in tact. Why did Muyiwa not tell me the contract has been cancelled? instead went ahead to persuade me to mobilize to site probably in a bid to manage his client whose patience was running out

Remember muyiwa has confirmed he received 1.1m which was the exact amount I needed for mobilization. Why did he hold on to part of the money? If I had received the complete mob maybe i might have been the one running after Muyiwa to give me my balance. Muyiwa is the reason the job was not started.

My anger now is that Muyiwa cancelled this contract long before telling me and pushed me to make commitments before blowing it up in my face.

He claims he incurred losses, so did I so it is very childish of him to expect me to do a complete refund in the first place.

He came here to label me a thief. I am still trying to understand why when I told him I would pay in installments and have already started paying.

Muyiwa has also threatened to take me to court. please when are we going?

Someone asked what I think Muyiwa should do to remedy the situation. I want to ask how much do we think my smeared image worth?

Daniel. Smh. Where did I talk about court, does it worth it for me?just say u don't want to refund and give your reason. Why are you pretending you never knew I was stuck with the option of taking a care of low worth as balance, did I not update you and tell you the way things were going, it was likely to hit the rocks. Let's focus on the money with you and stop trying to distract us here. U have money with you yes or no. Where are the materials you bought with the money? Pay back as we agreed shikena. Not here for stories

Mimzyy:
Spot on.

Smart girl. Glad you don't do mmm.

Mimzyy:
How does that increase your account balance?

*Frowns* Don't fall my hand pls

kaeforum:
Why would a client request for a bore hole and later ask for his money?

I smell lies, whatever the case the money cannot be refunded 100% as Daniel must have incurred expenses in arranging to to the job or he may have invested the funds in MMM.

Smell all the lies you want. Daniel even has their contact, he knows how the client kept offering a car without gearbox as payment. The client was being tricky himself. Decotech can attest to all this. The client is not what we are discussing here, probably you are just hungry for gist.

ozone0801:
this is more appropriate "UNSETTLED DEBT BY DECOTECH"



Don't come and be slandering somebody's papa name, by labelling him a thief when you actually PAID him for a job which you later cancelled. Thief is used for someone who stole from you.

Decotech knew the client was not serious, he knew everything. Infact he knew the client was offering a car with low worth as payment. I told daniel all along, I was carrying him along and advised he shld wait and not hurry to start seeing the client was not totally committed to paying cash. So I felt refunding shld have been easy for him.

ozone0801:
We are no judge or jury here so we can only suggest, advice or proffer solution to you both.
There's a competent court that looks into issues like this. You guys should use that medium

If I was decotech, I would revert back to the mutual agreement you both had I.e you'd pay 200k, out of which you've paid 25k(175k balance left). I believe you can work out a plan, but you're pissed at him.


@ OP, kindly consider changing this caption, its gonna cause serious damage to his image,people will be jittery about entrusting him with money. Funny enough, you guys may still go back to doing business as you both claimed you've done businesses successfully in the past.

Decotech is not a bad person, but I wonder why he is treating me this way, thinking I gave the job to someone else know fully well how I was struggling with the client, I even asked him not to rush as I sensed the client was not ready to pay the balance

I am pissed for sure, but we can resolve this. I had to bring this to nairaland because he was not responding to my calls and said I shld stop calling him.

nurey:
As I have little patience for long talk and lectures I won't dabble into epistles, we have already established the fact that the op is willing to accept paying 200k as time wasting fee to Decotech. So if we remove that from the remaining balance, 200k remains and the op has received 25k remaining 175k.

Now question to op
1. Are you going to take delivery on the items on the receipt? And forget about the remaining 175k

2. Or you want your 175k in cash instead not minding how much disposing the items in the receipt worth?

Now question to Decotech
1. Pls sir are you willing to pay the op back his money putting in mind how far both of you have gone before things degenerated to this level?

2. If your answer is yes, what are the corrections the op has to make before you pay him back? Eg tender an apology, give a written agreement etc.

I went into business with someone in a tune of 2m plus, I was in charge of the business fulani herds men destroy the whole Plantation, I didn't even take 1k from the business, I had to take responsibility for it and since then things have been stagnant I have not made 50k in 3months, so I understand when people think 200k is a mere chicken change some one should pay. "igboro ko feyin"

Thank you. I am ready to forfeit the 200k, the materials are more useful to decotech and I am sure he has used them for other projects (5months is a lot of time) so he shld pay the 175k, he can keep the 200k

GAZZUZZ:
we have confirmation from adeolu.

I keep wondering why he did not do this all this while from his message yesterday, there was a suggestion that he thought I gave the job to someone else. But I did not. So it seemed he was using that to punish me or something. He shld have paid the money in good faith as I was ready to suffer some loses myself. The client he knew was not a straight forward man. asking to pay with a car that did not even worth the job. So why shld I give the job to someone else, to increase my loses?

GAZZUZZ:
as I said earlier there are 3 sides to every story.

1. What daniel said.

2. What adeolu said.

3. What really happened.


Summary is daniel said money was used to pay for materials and part payment for renting equipment.
Other unaccounted monies for site survey and logistics.

Adeolu said he paid daniel for a job, and the job was canceled by the original client.

Daniel agreed to refund parts of the money and adeolu agreed.

The amount agreed by both parties to be refunded was 200,000. Looks sketchy but seems there was a silent agreementwww.nairaland.com/attachments/4603844_munch20161213131522_png6d6048ba84fdf83e5ebe37c529a33e23

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Out of which daniel paid 25,000.

A balance of 175,000 is still owed by daniel, but he has been unable to fulfil his obligations to adeolu.

Both parties correct me anywhere I am wrong.

You are very right sir. Daniel BUT DANIEL WAS PAID for site survey even before getting the 700,000 deposit. He shld not count that at all pls.
I must also add that the original client also contributed to all this problem. Daniel was talking about me being greedy. How?
Daniel is not being honest here. Daniel knows the client had no balance to pay, the client was even offering his car as part of the payment. I called daniel and told him the client seems to be unserious. Decotech am I lying? So I don't know why daniel went ahead to even buy any material despite me warning that if we do the job we may not get our balance. Why shld a client be offering his car as balance to make matters worse the care was below the value of our balance that was why we had delays. Before the client eventually said he needed his money. I was trying to be fair. This was daniel (decotech) I suggested he kept a whole 200k for wasting his time, just pay me 200,000 and let's go home in peace, yet since June he refused to pay. Pls everyone what is my offense? Decotech what is my offense? Did u worth 200k I asked you to keep. All just to encourage you yet what did I get? Can we all just leave sentiments and be honest here?

princetom1:
For all of u saying receipt is forged, i don't see any wrong in d op, going to find out about that. That's not hard, from now on, i will defend both side and wount be biased,

Thanks for this. Really appreciate. But was I not very fair when I asked him to keep 200,000 of the money? Is that not more than enough? Is he saying he has not used those materials for other jobs since june? Why all the excuses he is giving? Those things he claims he bought are very valuable to him. Let's be considerate here. I have tried. Giving off half of the debt to encourage him and he most have used the materials. Cc gazzuz

Kjnwancaro:
There's only one reason for the receipts; so that we can see where and how the money was put to work. Let's forget about all the brawl and try to make peace.

The writtings on the paper are too tiny for me to read, someone that doesn't use glasses should please type the break down on the receipts let's calculate how much money went into logistics.

After all that is done I think the Normal thing is for Decotech to return the unused materials to Adeola and Adeola forfeiting the rest but I don't think decotech is ready to do so because he has been dragged in the mud.

The only solution is for Adeola to appoligize to Decotech publicly, just as you called him a thief, open a thread possibly in caps and take all your dirty words back.

I Will do that. But decotech seems not to have plans to refund, can he honestly say he has not used those materials for other job? Why has he not refunded even 200,000, I was ready to forfiet a whole 200,000. Was that not fair enough from me? A whole 200,000 just like that just to encourage him, yet read all he is saying. He still gains a lot because those materials are valuable to him.

Thank you all. So decotech has uploaded the receipts. Next question is who has a right to all he bought? Is he saying he has not used those materials for the past 5months plus? Why has he not been able to come forth with part of the money. Can decotech answer this honestly so we get closure on this issue. Thank you all once more

mrSTRYKS:
nawaoo ndia di very mean oh..ha cho iri nwaba..you wan hustle untop a brother hustle still yu no wan legit as the runs come cast you wan make him vomit cash wey him don add for business..first of all if you mayuwa or watever want to settle this peacefully take down this thread callin him a thief which he is not or maybe rename it if u must..DECOTEC is a level headed fellow to even allow you know his family home now you re threatening his mother..well get ready to settle with the police on that one..since u guys have done biz before nw peacefully but this time around your greed messed the deal up i think you should understand the economic situation and bear with him when he said he is not in the mood to talk about money..from the text msg sef wen u first told him God punish you recall he told you God bless you..i think you mayuwa is the person infuriating decotec

You are funny, where did I threaten his mum. My intention was to go report her son to her. This is how you folks say rubbish.

ozone0801:
I'm surprise people aren't interested in contributing on this issue. Why are they shying away even gazzuz who had earlier commented.

Well, @/decotech, I don't think you understand the gravity of this allegation levelled against you. Adeolu123 still remains your own client and you are answerable to him as to how you spent the money given to you.the whole talks about him trying to get more from the principal client is none of your business.

You owe him explanations and you are holding his money. We are here to discuss what transpired between adeolu123 and decotech, not adeolu VS his own client. I think the only way you can clear your name is to provide tangible evidences that you truly spent money on pre-drilling logistics. We are still awaiting the receipts.

@ adeolu123, bear in mind you are going to forfeit a fraction of the money for his inconveniences if truly he could prove he spent on logistics.

From what I could deduce from their chat, I think decotech had initially agreed to refund all the money, hence the reason he was persuading him in one of their conversation, but when he couldn't ,adeola123 decided to let go 200k, even at that he still didn't show any sign of seriousness.

Truth be told, 375k is to much to let go for someone who never dug MUD PIT, took DRILLING RIG to site, buy PVC CASING, bought SUBMERSIBLE PUMP. These are all pre-drilling exercise.if he had, he would have shown pictures or evidences to adeolu123 since 5months.

I'm also a borehole driller/geologist.

At last someone is talking sense here. I know I can't get everything back, but for christ sake he shld just pay something. I was not even furious until today when he was telling me he was not in the mood to talk about money. So who is in the mood?

diportivo:
Na wa o

It takes a real man to admit that he wants to pay his debt,even going to the extent of wanting to pay it in instalments, but business hasn't been moving to make him do same

In dat situation,u will av to calm down ni,as it means dat he wld pay it wen he has it

Adeolu,u made it seem like he didn't even agree to being indebted to u

Now d guy don vex...he is claiming character defamation which is as a result of u labeling him a thief

How do u now get ur money back Ehn

This is the first time I am calling him a thief. In fact I pray most times for him to have the grace to pay back and was never aggressive until today when he was telling me he has no time to talk abt money which got me angry

DECOtech:
please everyone, I stayed late at work using office WiFi to following this thread forgetting d road is thight.

I live in Aba but work in ph. ph people know it's been hell these few days getting through Eleme junction.

have been reading up but can't reply cos I'm driving. I just dropped this one now cos I stopped to buy fuel.

I must upload those papers this night or Muyiwa will accuse me of forgery if I do it in the morning.

Pls bare with me, the road is so tight.

Good, upload them, then let me take possession of the materials you claimed u paid for.
So let me know the value

I keep wondering why decotech comes online and goes offline, is he struggling to locate the materials he claimed he bought with the money. I am not understanding you
Uboma if the receipt and materials are with you, pls speakup because you seem to be a partner to decotech. Or is it "our brother" mentality being played out here again?

I want to reach a conclusion on this matter today. June till date is a lot. At least show us what u did with the money. All the insults from uboma won't distract me. U have 375,000 what was it used for?

DECOtech:
I don't know how someone will lie on you and you won't bother to defend urself.

Waiting for the receipts not everyone is a fool.
I had been cool with you until this morning telling me you don't want to talk about money. Is that how to address the issue?

Can see u are back again. Have you come with the receipts? Or still hoping your stooges have killed the thread and came to check

I see what is happening here, decotech is trying to use his stooges here to distract everyone from the money he is holding on to. It won't work. Provide evidence you bought anything and hand them over. I am willing to let go if you do that else just refund.

He came back online hoping the case has been distracted. Saw you online why delay in presenting your evidences?

Welcome back decotech, hope you are here with the receipts as promised. Let's see where the money went.

uboma:
You had lied in your initial post so don't expect me to believe you any further.

You don't have to believe me. Decotech is having 375,000 with him. Is he willing to share the evidences he has that he bought anything and can he hand those things over so we all move on?

Waiting for the materials bought. Since he is the saint here shld not be difficult for him.

bomasek:
Dude said he gave u 100k out of the 700k if I'm not mistaken.

U mean the client's money? Or won't the client collect his money? If I did not do the little I did wld I have been able to recover any money from decotech?

uboma:
For the past 5 months, did you request to have the materials instead?
You were busy asking for the money and DECOtech was even willing to pay back when he has the cash but you bloody rogue could not wait and handle this case amicably.
DECOtech has assured us to upload receipts of the materials he purchased so everyone including you can see.
How could you even use a client's money for personal issues?

Ask yourself, if I used the client's money for personal issues how did I then repay the client without delays? Why be one sided in this issue?
I had to employ different strategies to get the money back from decotech, else I wld not have gotten a dim.
Yes we are waiting to see the materials he bought