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First, try breaking d record of the two guys who have abandoned good music to concentrate their creative energies on beefing and shading each other...Wizkido /Daviwiz

AmoryBlacq:
Who then is You, Putin, Trump or I

power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely

NK would never hit the button, he's only trying to make world nations wary of him especially the US as should every other nation do


And please forget all these media talk aimed at discrediting him, he cares for his people

I understand ur point of view sir. U want a fair/ equal international system where everyone has the right to own any weapons for its defence and preservation and it's not an exclusive reserve of such States as Russia and the US.You may consider these

While every State should have a right to strengthen it's attack/defence systemn in different innovative forms, owning nuclear weapons is a different matter. If a third world takes place, it's going to be States throwing weapons of mass destruction at one another. I hope u are aware That Russia's armoury is enough to wipe out most of living matter, and we have not even mentioned the US.

Therefore, we have a lot to deal with already with US and Russia and both were actually considering gradually depleting their arsenal ( you may check to confirm). We should not support another State- especially an authoritarian one in its quest to own nuclear weapons.

As for the statement on absolute power- You have nly strengthened my argument. You see, both The US n Russia operate systems where there are checks and balances so their leaders don't wield "absolute power" in that sense. For instance, they have the parliament or congress and their is a prime minister in the case of Russia This way, it's a rigorous process before war can be declared and weapons dispersed. In the case of North Korea, its authoritarian,the leader only selects wat is to be done for him and by whom, and so far he has definitely been the one wielding absolute powers. As for not believing the media talk on NORTH korea, It should be of interest to you to know that the Chinese govt_ their only ally has condemned their nuclear tests.This You may also check their official CCTV news archives to see what they really think about the nuclear programme.

Finally, if Kim loves his people and gives them the good life as much as you claim, why has he prevented them from showing how good they look by themselves using private and social media? Why has Mr Kim taken it upon itself to use only the official news agency? As for the American citizen who was accused of stealing a "propaganda" sign and was given a pill that sent him into coma.... don't you think in a sane society he'll have simply gone to the courts and be sent to jail.....if in the xtrmities, it's actually jail time if you steal a "propaganda sign" in a sane society?

Got hold of this tribute written by embattled Kogi west Senator, Dino Melaye and it's quite moving. Appears the man had a great impact on him.

AmoryBlacq:
why would US and other nations have nuclear arsenal yet want to prevent others from acquiring it?

If US and Russia believe in peace and peaceful dialog what then do they need nuclear weapons for?

Obviously they don't believe in what they preach

Nuclear weapons are too dangerous for any State to own. You see, I do not support any State owning weapons of mass destruction, even US or Russia. However, we know the US and Russia (to an extent) both have more significant control over their leaders and they cannot just press the button cos they are annoyed. This cannot be said of North Korea which is under the rule of Kim's thumb! The article sought to highlight the unpredictability of the totalitarian regime as the reason why Mr Kim cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons at his disposal. Do you know some hours ago Kim was threatening a third world war of nuclear proportions if the US and south Korea continue their joint militar drills? We all know Kim is no joker!

lofty900:
China is the only country Kim Jung un listen to but China is not doing anything to help

It is certainly true sir....If china decides to place embargoes on trade and banking with korea, it will amost certainly cripple the DPRk ad force them to retrace their steps. Instead, China has kept its distance and has only been emphasising negotiations instead of the use of force because it fears war could destabilise Korea and refugees will spill over into its territory. As it is, Beijing will only act if there is a direct challenge from North Korea. It. is just unfortunate.

What do Shipping, aviation, military training, heavy and light arms, Banking, diplomats and Statues all have in common? Well, all have embargoes placed on them by the UN (and US, of course) in a bid to make North Korea think again and drop its nuclear agenda and embrace a lot more dialogue with the outside world.
It is barely breaking news that the DPRK has been unrelenting and has even stepped up tests in its quest to miniaturize nuclear warheads and thus become one of the few States with a nuclear arsenal capable of reaching (perceived enemy) targets anywhere in the world. Pyongyang has conducted no less than seven missile tests in 2017 alone and appears to be making steady progress. If the ability or seriousness of Kim to achieve his aim was ever in doubt, the test of a two stage Intercontinental Ballistic missile has confirmed to even the most pessimistic of international observers that an activity of grave international consequence is certainly taking place within the more troublesome of the Korean States.
The threat of the DPRK to the world is even more serious when Kim Jong Un is put into perspective. Only this year , 'the supreme leader' (very likely) ordered the assassination of his half brother with a nerve agent. This follows the assassination of his uncle Jang Song- Thaek in 2013. That could be his limit......he could go on further, no one knows his state of mind and mental Health. Donald Trump was mocked on the back of his election win as one who would be too eager to play with the US nuclear codes-Now, try to picture Mr. Kim in his nuclear stead with his hands "on deck"and see if' the joke is still funny. Very Little is known of the secretive despot's private and public life except for what the official news agency "Rodong" is obliged to report, making him even less predictable. He has ignored the prospect of global socio-economic integration, and even the small matter of abundance of food for his impoverished subjects for the perpetuation of the absolute rule of his family.
The North Korean leadership is very much aware of the fact that it runs a peculiar authoritarian system at odds with the predominant system of governance in the modern world. Kim most likely suspects that the US and its allies must be considering a lot of different options (including assassination ) to get rid of him and his strangle hold on power. The North Korean secret service even claims it has evidence of a plot to assassinate the 'supreme leader'. Similarly, Kim very conscious of the fact that his regime is particularly vulnerable without a flexible attack/ defence system. Therefore, the North requires a dependable form of security that would both instantly and accurately convey the message it is so desperate to send. Having a nuclear arsenal is a subtle yet very effective method of saying "stay away, our dogs can bite" and "if you threaten us, we can certainly strike you. Just like in the case of Soviet and subsequently Russia- U.S relations, this follows the principle of deterrence and must have made perfect sense to Kim, considering what he and his cohort are trying to achieve.
However, a nuclear weapon chasing DPRK is scary enough, but it is even scarier when one thinks of what it would do when it eventually has the capacity and capability. Russia and the US have been content with showing off and stocking their piles of nuclear weapons, exercising restraint above all and embracing talks. Kim Jong Un has agreed to talks before only to turn 360 degrees and has been obstinate recently, refusing any talks and negotiations over its nuclear ambitions, apart from ignoring UN sanctions.
Can Kim Jong Un be trusted with the responsibility that comes with being in charge of a nuclear arsenal , can he be trusted not to toy with weapons that could potentially put an end to human existence and wipe all living things off the face of the earth? I do not think anyone wants to sit and patiently wait till Mr. supreme leader answers these questions himself with an ICBM launch or a third world war before action is taken. His precedents don't make for pleasant reading, it certainly is warning enough. Too much time and energy has been expended trying to make Kim take the carrot and it has yielded absolutely no result! Now is the time to give him the stick. As a matter of urgent World priority, Sufficient energy, technology and Resources by the UN and member States to ensure that the stockpile is traced, found and gotten rid of. While It is definitely easier said than done and poses a lot of risk, it is much better and of less risk to take action than to be sorry when it has become too late and we are in effect doomed.

What do Shipping, aviation, military training, heavy and light arms, Banking, diplomats and Statues all have in common? Well, all have embargoes placed on them by the UN (and US, of course) in a bid to make North Korea think again and drop its nuclear agenda and embrace a lot more dialogue with the outside world.
It is barely breaking news that the DPRK has been unrelenting and has even stepped up tests in its quest to miniaturize nuclear warheads and thus become one of the few States with a nuclear arsenal capable of reaching (perceived enemy) targets anywhere in the world. Pyongyang has conducted no less than seven missile tests in 2017 alone and appears to be making steady progress. If the ability or seriousness of Kim to achieve his aim was ever in doubt, the test of a two stage Intercontinental Ballistic missile has confirmed to even the most pessimistic of international observers that an activity of grave international consequence is certainly taking place within the more troublesome of the Korean States.

The threat of the DPRK to the world is even more serious when Kim Jong Un is put into perspective. Only this year , 'the supreme leader' (very likely) ordered the assassination of his half brother with a nerve agent. This follows the assassination of his uncle Jang Song- Thaek in 2013. That could be his limit......he could go on further, no one knows his state of mind and mental Health. Donald Trump was mocked on the back of his election win as one who would be too eager to play with the US nuclear codes-Now, try to picture Mr. Kim in his nuclear stead with his hands "on deck"and see if' the joke is still funny. Very Little is known of the secretive despot's private and public life except for what the official news agency "Rodong" is obliged to report, making him even less predictable. He has ignored the prospect of global socio-economic integration, and even the small matter of abundance of food for his impoverished subjects for the perpetuation of the absolute rule of his family.

The North Korean leadership is very much aware of the fact that it runs a peculiar authoritarian system at odds with the predominant system of governance in the modern world. Kim most likely suspects that the US and its allies must be considering a lot of different options (including assassination ) to get rid of him and his strangle hold on power. The North Korean secret service even claims it has evidence of a plot to assassinate the 'supreme leader'. Similarly, Kim is very conscious of the fact that his regime is particularly vulnerable without a flexible attack/ defence system. Therefore, the North requires a dependable form of security that would both instantly and accurately convey the message it is so desperate to send. Having a nuclear arsenal is a subtle yet very effective method of saying "stay away, our dogs can bite" and "if you threaten us, we can certainly strike you. Just like in the case of the old Soviet Union and subsequently Russia- U.S relations, this follows the principle of deterrence and must have made perfect sense to Kim, considering what he and his cohort are trying to achieve.

However, a nuclear weapon chasing DPRK is scary enough, but it is even scarier when one thinks of what it can do when it eventually has the capacity and capability. Russia and the US have been content with showing off and stocking their piles of nuclear weapons, exercising restraint above all and embracing talks. Kim Jong Un has agreed to talks before only to turn 360 degrees and has been obstinate ever since, refusing any talks and negotiations over its nuclear ambitions, apart from ignoring UN sanctions.

Can Kim Jong Un be trusted with the responsibility that comes with being in charge of a nuclear arsenal , can he be trusted not to toy with weapons that could potentially put an end to human existence and wipe all living things off the face of the earth? I do not think anyone wants to sit and patiently wait till Mr. supreme leader answers these questions himself with an ICBM launch or a third world war before action is taken. His precedents don't make for pleasant reading, it certainly is warning enough. Too much time and energy has been expended trying to make Kim take the carrot and it has yielded absolutely no result! Now is the time to give him the stick. As a matter of urgent World priority, Sufficient energy, technology and Resources by the UN and member States to ensure that the stockpile is traced, found and gotten rid of and Kim should be severely punished. While It is definitely easier said than done and poses a lot of risk, it is much better and of less risk to take action than to be sorry when it has become too late and we are in effect doomed.

Agumbaa:
Nwanne ike ndia gwuru m

M na-aghọta na ị na n'ụzọ zuru ezu

Agumbaa:
Nwanne ike ndia gwuru m

M na-aghọta na ị na n'ụzọ zuru ezu

Dannidom:
Bros what do you mean by being too emotional? Moreover you guys should stop pestering Biafrans with that cos NK have gotten the best of you guys through that means thats why you cant just stop feeling intimidated by Biafra's actions or inactions.



If you are really that sound mentally you can shut up and listen or support us, and stop taking panadol for people who doesnt care

.anger be clouds ur judgement sir

Dannidom:
Bros what do you mean by being too emotional? Moreover you guys should stop pestering Biafrans with that cos NK have gotten the best of you guys through that means thats why you cant just stop feeling intimidated by Biafra's actions or inactions.



If you are really that sound mentally you can shut up and listen or support us, and stop taking panadol for people who doesnt care

lols..Anger be clouds ur judgement sir! While I can't place ur exact point, I'll try to answer the 2 I can relate to:
1. The struggle for Biafra has in no way or manner whatsoever cowed me. Instead, it's opened my eyes to its potentials......and struggles. Unfortunately the latter outweighs the former, hence my argument!
2. If you disagree with the points raised in the article, simply counter the arguments with ur points, don't resort to throwing anger tantrums and insults?

Dannidom:
As you said, you should stop comparing them, Biafrans and South Sudanese are not mates.



Leaving your comfort zone and trying something new has always been some of the secrets of success and sadly most Nigerians are too cowardly to try and I'm most disgruntled at those who ridicule those that try

Hey, no one is ridiculing anyone or group ( certainly not me), If u followed the article well, u'd hav discovered the OP is not against ur quest and agitation for a better life! Instead, my point exactly is to highlight the potential issues that are likely to hamper the better socioeconomic and political life u so crave, most of which people are either too naive to see or too excited to put into perspective!

nijabazaar:
u guys jeep using South Sudan as reference. What of Singapore and Malaysia?

Nice question bro...really sensible....u see, it's simply because when you compare factors and indices, South Sudan and a potential Biafra possess more in common than any of those two Countries plus d fact it's situated in Africa makes it even more relevant. Pls compare the issues I discussed in the article and do some research about where ethnic clinging and politics resulting in tension is more likely to take place, South Sudan or Singapore? Have a great Sunday!

vanbonattel:
Any country which is devoid of people from the south west and north must succeed.

I am sure u didn't get this through any intense reearch

[quote author=Uchihaitaci post=58023174]No one will read this

Besides no one cares


Bro... u obviously angry n frustrated wich Is exactly my point- u are likely to make more mistakes when ur emotions control ur actions. Worse still, it might be too late to change when the consequences kick in!
Advice: Calm down and think in depth!

Never before ( excluding the periods preceding the civil war, perhaps) have the calls for a Biafran State been so vociferous. Agitators in the so called South- East and a few more in the South- South zones are convinced that they have been politically and economically marginalized for too long despite constituting one of the three major ethnic groups( in this case, the Igbo's and the only major ethnic group not to have produced a president since 1999) as well as the source of the Country's highest contributing revenue source(oil) .
Perhaps, that the agitation is loudest now should not be surprising given the prominent role that Mr. Nnamdi Kanu has come to play both as an unrelenting symbol for the struggle and (as a consequence), the chief scape goat. While the complex nature of the demand for a new State and the Nigerian government's unyielding approach makes an independent Biafran State a very distant dream at best, It does not stop one from wondering what exactly a new State will offer people in this territory that will beat what Nigeria has to offer, especially in the event that restructuring is given a chance.
Amidst all the protests, chaos, accusations and exercise of authority through sit at home orders and so on that has come to characterize the Federal government versus Biafran confrontations, neutral observers do not have to look too far to find that the Biafran struggle focuses solely on severing ties with Nigeria, paying little attention to harsh realities that confront them if independence is ever attained.
It is very important to stress here that an hypothetical Biafran state will very likely face similar realities to what Nigeria currently grapples with. Firstly, the leaders will have to fashion out how the central government will be constituted to accommodate all interests and counter-interests. This will not be helped by the fact that the new State will be very much a multi ethnic State. There will be the need to address issues synonymous with heterogeneous States such as agreed revenue allocation formula, issues of ethnic minorities, Regional or Federal police and even where the capital should be cited will constitute issues for national discuss , does a certain Nigeria come to mind?.
To think ethnic sentiments will suddenly vanish as soon as a new State is formed is like saying the Igbo, Ijaw, Efik, ibibio, Itshekiri etcetera will suddenly renounce their distinct identities because they have a new State, this cannot be further away from reality. The recent statement credited to the Ijaw Youth council about having a distinct struggle to that of Biafra only serves to strengthen the argument that in the event that both Biafrans and so called Niger Deltans agree to form a State ( as Biafrans would obviously desire) ,the Ijaws will seek to pursue and guide their distinct interests within the new State.
It is an open secret that the interests of the Ijaw includes among other things controlling the rights of access to the proceeds from the oil gotten from their own land. It will be interesting to see how this will play out especially since the South- South states produce the most oil. In the event that the principle of derivation is mooted, the Igbo will very likely negate because it will put them at an obvious disadvantage making way for what could unexpected debacle. In the event that the principle of equality is favoured, the Ijaws are likely to disagree given that they would seek to avoid the Nigerian experience.
In similar vein, the political landscape is likely to be just as complicated. South Sudan (also oil rich) voted overwhelmingly to form its own separate State with similar hopes and grievances to that of Biafra but today is on the brink of collapse as ethnic tensions stirred by the president and his sacked vice have brought the State to its young knees, bringing only more suffering than they faced when in a united Sudan, just imagine the millions of displaced people . Just like in Sudan, the position of the president (as a key position) will most likely be rotated or zoned along ethnic lines and political parties are likely to develop along set ethnic boundaries rather than ideological lines.
This article is not in any way against the agitation for a better life for the people of the South-South and South-East. It is simply a honest wakeup call to my beloved ( I have too many friends across the divide) to carefully consider their choices, either ( devote their energy to the realization of) restructuring of Nigeria's federal system or a new State with its more cumbersome challenges and to open their eyes to possibilities they might have ignored in their emotionally laden struggle. Gracias
Please note; Because the ethnic groups in the South-South are numerous, the Ijaws were chosen for the purpose of this article as the largest ethnic group in the South-South.Attempting to highlight each ethnic group's position would take too much time and space.
Article written by AdmaF