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Beorn:
Yes. But a reason "impeding" on freewill doesn't mean freewill doesn't exist and that the life we're all living and all our actions have been preordained before we came into existence by Mr. Time pulling our strings from fuckknows where.

Also, beliefs can equate to facts, so no need canceling that last paragraph. I BELIEVE you and I will die one day. Is my belief a FACT? A resounding yes!!

Beorn:
It depends on the "reason".

Exactly, and belief, my friend, doesn't usually equates to FACTS.

Beorn:
If you're not time, when then did time tell you it'd scripted every SINGLE action of ours?

There are things that are sacrosanct and must happen. Everyone can state that they MUST HAPPEN BEFORE they actually happen and that's the point I was trying to let you know. Since those things are known to generally happen, there's no surprises there, but those things people don't know must happen, when someone can actually state they must happen and they do, it's becomes a rare feat and will shock us all.

Take for example, everyone knows that we MUST die one day, but when someone out there keeps stating the EXACT TIME AND WAY people will die, now that revelation will astound everyone that comes to realize he's right. Why? Because what he's doing is stating the future and getting it right. It's an extraordinary feat that none has achieved.

So, telling me I'll die someday is nothing to be praised about, EVERYBODY knows it. But tell me the exact time, month, year, and method of my death, the events that MUST occur that day, all of which I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OF, all of which has been predestined by time. If you can do that for everybody, then you'll convince us that you've read our life script which you're CLAIMING EXISTS and knew how it must play out. Tell us what we know not, not what we already know.

Beorn:
This looks to be coming from a religious angle not a factual one, like how theists believe in a God which they haven't seen yet. Their beliefs works more on faith than sight.

For example, how do you verify each person's time? How do you prove with TIME that a person will turn out this way or that way BEFORE he does? Or that by so, so and so time next year, Mr A will perform a definitive act which you or anyone had already seen or known?

If I get you correctly, if Mr A ends up being killed by lynching, you're of the belief that time had predestined Mr A to die through that means and there's nothing he'd have done about it. But you don't expect inquisitive folks to believe you if you can't say from the beginning that Mr A would end up that way. After all anyone can claim anything AFTER it'd had happened, but to actually predict factually BEFORE it happens is the real deal, and that's what those fictitious time machine in movies does, but in real life, none of that exist neither can it be proven.

To expatiate further, if 19 people and I placed a bet which fails and then you say we failed because time had predestined it that way, I'd simply ask that if you're so sure, why didn't tell us that all our bets must fail as time had already predestined it that way instead of waiting after it had failed.

In other words, everything that happens, you BELIEVE it's meant to happen that way by time, but you can't prove it BEFORE it happens. It boils down to your beliefs like I initially pointed out.

Beorn:
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In addition to my last post, can you tell me what time has predestined to happen to me tomorrow by 1:23pm, 11:11am, 1:05:06am tomorrow?

If you can't tell me what will happen to me in those aforementioned time, but believe that what will happen me then will happen and has already been predestined by time, then you're just speculating without any fact.

SarcasticGenius:
Stop judging me by your moronic standards. Not everyone is cursed with a brain the size of a peanut.

Beorn:
Expatiate.

Beorn:
Proof like where it's written that every action of ours is predestined. Or happenings that showed all our activities on earth had already played out and we're just living a scripted life.

Beorn:
I'll need some concrete evidence to believe your line of thought. Just saying it ain't enough. Can you prove it? Or it's just your belief?

Beorn:
I think it boils down to people's beliefs, then. What you wrote is what many theists/religious people would say, but I personally don't believe such. I don't believe our actions or inactions are predestined, even if it were, we can change it.

LordAdam16:
This is what we call realistic achievable targets. Not we'll tar all the roads, revitalize railway, boost agriculture, provide 24/7 power, and similar empty, reckless promises.

These are concrete milestones with specific timelines that we can certainly achieve when there's the political will.

-Lord

Beorn:
OK, I get it now. Why do you think all our actions has been preordained? Or do I need to watch The Time Machine to understand where you're coming from?

pocohantas:
You no go just see those Romance section guys on this thread. Them no get work or hustle?

Anyway, I will say 23+...
Got the famous 6digit paying job, had some allowances and intangible benefits, living in a family house, parents who didn't ask me for anything except if I decided to spend. I am not a flexing or flamboyant person, so I didn't have a reason not to save.

I dream about the proposed pay/benefits of my new job and smile to myself. I am my father's daughter.

Beorn:
I haven't seen The Time Machine, but I find it hard to believe that any human can doubt the existence of free will.

Haven't you heard of people changing religions or becoming atheists or agnostics despite being theists? If it isn't freewill, what is it?

Next year, Nigerians will vote for any of the parties of their choice. Isn't that freewill?

How about people choosing to support any clubs they want? Isn't that freewill as well?

Without freewill, we'd all be zombies, thinking, doing and believing alike.

pocohantas:
Men are polygamous in nature, most adulterous men do so with ladies, not men. So, what is surprising here?

My problem now is that, you will become an alpha-male (aka anti-feminist/fear women crew) and start spitting venom all around NL. Women stop hurting men biko, we have enough angry men on our hands.

SarcasticGenius:
Chei! See as the thing vex this gorilla

You are nothing but an unrepentant ingrate to be ranting like this after everything that we human beings have done to rehabilitate you and stop you from having suicidal thoughts.We gave you privileges that we have never granted to any other wild animal in history. We taught you how to read and write and we bought you a handset.

We stopped you from jumping into the lagoon, and we personally escorted you to Sambisa forest to pick out 2 or 3 of your fellow gorilas to help you warm your bed. I still don't understand where it went wrong because at the time you seemed very happy:

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Instead of settling down and starting a gorilla family, you chose to start following the likes of Bobrisky and Bisi Alimi on IG and now you've become a randy gay gorilla.

But you have tried my patience for too long, so this is where I have to say goodbye to you. As from now on I will simply ignore any stupid reply you make to this post.

This is the end of whatever communication exists between us, so kindly stay off my posts in the future if you value your worthless life.

modath:
Saraki is a learner.... he thinks it's easy being a Jagaban? A child can't run till it learns how to sit... he should look for seats and learn at the feet of the true JAGABAN.....

Saraki (or his Twitter handler) has already deleted the tweet but it's already captured for posterity sake....

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Where are those mules ranting about it being a doctored audio file with no counter audio to refute it? Una go cry blood by FEBUHARI, not only won't una MCM won't return to Senate, his dynasty in Kwara will crumble to dust...

Beorn:
Time Lapse 8/10
Quite simply one of the most intelligent time travel movies I've ever watched. The simple but yet ingenuity-filled storyline makes it all the more impressive. And it's not even a novel adaptation. The director of the movie is very imaginative and detailed. Low-budget movies that are well written are goldmines, what they lack in costly CGIs, they make up for it with an engaging and brainstorming and compelling storyline that leaves the viewers asking questions way after the movie has ended. If this story was true, it lays to waste the idea of free will, because all our free will still ends in a definitive preordained ending which we can absolutely nothing about to change.