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SIRcumalot:
he was a huge success as he only stayed one season,where he showed Utd fans it was crazy to loan him and got a move to Valencia. scored a dopeass goal too.

[s]you agree say Hazard na poor man Ribery? [/s]

You dont even know all about the player you are flying his kite here. Nani was sold to fenerbahce for a paltry sum less than 5m. Only a failure bought at 25m will leave for that amount at 28 years. Like i said only fools will drag nani near hazard. Let it slide.

hensben:
So you have not seen Hazard turning player like Amala? Anyways, You nor know ball so make I nor follow you debate.

Screen that one out. Someone who based his opinions on youtube edited videos that can be made by the likes of raumdeuter to judge. I can prepare videos that will make valdes look better than de gea this season.

SIRcumalot:
Hazard is just another clone of a superior player,Ribery.
nothing Hazard do wey never see before.
Nani isnt a failure Abeg.

He must be such a huge success getting loaned to portuguese league at 28 years, not being the best player in the league like hazard.

weedtaker:
comparing someone who has never scored 30plus league goals in his life to someone who has done it in 5 consecutive seasons is pure madness.

Fabregas advised him on what to do to get those numbers, only fools will fault fab's advice and claim hazard has no ability.

raumdeuter:
[s]WHo should we be comparing him to Mahrez who won the best player but never compare him to David Silva

DId Lampard even win PFA player of the year? Maybe not but we can compare with Mahrez. You wonder why you are called a foool[/s]

Leave lampard out of it. Apari, use your brain as advised.

SIRcumalot:
Hazard has more in common with Nani than the GOAT.

Nope. Nani was a ronaldo's copy cat and a failure at it. Hazard copies no one.

raumdeuter:
[s]So oponu, which follishness did he beat you to? That Tevez and Ronaldo were there to make Nani assist double digits?[/s]

Rooney was in fifa best 11 when nani did his double digit. Has hazard played with such quality during his years at chelsea? Use your brain.

afrodoc2:
It makes more sense to compare Hazard to Nani than Hazard with a possible GOAT.
The difference between Hazard and people like Nani, Nasri, Ben Arfa is mainly the mentality u people have been latching on.

The difference between all those guys ( including Hazard) and Messi is talent.

Comparing a player who was never the best player in the league for 9 years to hazard is the most senseless stuff have read here today.

raumdeuter:
[s]Did any of these attackers win Golden boot before Nani? Could it be that the quality of Nani assists were making them to excel while the poor quality of Hidden Hazard assists were dulling his strikers

Take away Hidden hazard from Chelsea put prime Nani with Fabregas behind COsta and watch him rake 30 goals[/s]

Rooney was the player of the season in 2009/2010 with 26 goals and stop asking foolish question. Rooney and berbatov were red hot before and during those periods nani got his double digits in assists. Stop disgracing yourself

raumdeuter:
Nani spent 1 season with Saha, Nanis best seasons were when Ronaldo and Tevez were no longer in the team

Rooney and Bernatov are now the attacking luminaries that helped Nani make double digit assists?

Who scored those assists? Batholomew ogbeche?

raumdeuter:
beat you to foolishness? Nani was having his double digit assists when Ronaldo was in Madrid and Tevez was in Citeh

try another lie sugomu

I believe you read this below and ignored. Stop disgracing yourself.

airmark:
With effective rooney, hernandez and even berbatov there to bury his assists. Use your brain mr man.

Nihilist:
Nani was playing with Ronaldo, Tevez and Prime Rooney.

Hazard is playing with Pedro and a Brazilian/Spanish lunatic.

Use your eyes and pree the raw numbers. See the amount of key passes Hazard is creating and compare to Nani.


Nani ko, Toto ni.

You beat me to this. I dont know why dayo thinks like a dullard, most of the time.

raumdeuter:
For 3 consecutive seasons Nani was doing double digits assists in the league alone.

Hazard has only managed double digit assist twice in his EPL career

With effective rooney, hernandez and even berbatov there to bury his assists. Use your brain mr man.

raumdeuter:
And I agree with weedtaker skillwise Nani shiitss on Hazard

You both are weed takers, no p.

weedtaker:
nani did all these if not more. he just couldn't do it occasionally like ororo.

Nani ko Nanny ni. Hazard is not like that ronaldo's copy cat jare. Pass me some sticks.

weedtaker:
kolo, nobody is correcting anybody, he doesn't have both the ability and elite mentality to do what ororo and midget does, he can't head, can't spot runs and play those defense splitting pass that midget does with ease, he's not even a good crosser of the ball, i don't even think he shoots with his left foot, shey luiz and willian them the even allow am take free kick seff? nani even has more in his game than hazard, hazard is just a little bit consistent.

You actually corrected him by cancelling out his ability excuse. Meanwhile, spotting runs, is not what we want him to do more. We want him to be more involved in scoring, going it most of the time alone. The goal he scored against de gea in first leg via matic's assist was a function of him running to space to get the ball and murdered both smalling and de gea in one fell swoop. This kinda moment is what we want him to repeat consistently, not spotting others runs. We want him to minimise spotting stvpid runs again. That has robbed him of a lot of goals. Also you said you didnt think he shoots with his left foot. I like your brand of weed. His last goal was off his left leg. One of his best goals was a screamer from same leg against hull two years ago. What we are saying is he should be doing it more, not occasionally. He needs to be more selfish, aiming at goal. The ability is there, may be he needs your type of weed to change his mentality and unleash the beast in him.

raumdeuter:
Wilfred Zaha, Quaresma, Bolasie, Mirralas on occasions will dribble top class players and score goals too,

show me their videos, sodomising 3 legends from ucl defending champions in a cup final? 1000 usd will be yours today.

afrodoc2:
This is why people say Hazard is over rated.
Do you people think it is beans to score goals at CR7 and Ronaldo levels? There is a reason why those 2 at their peak rewrote the record books.
There is no amount of training or tweaking that can make Hazard as prolific as these 2 guys.....he does not have the ability.

Wasn't it shocking that a weedtaker corrected a doctor?. The problem is his mentality not ability. Ask dayo what he did to his 3 legends in 3 secs. Few players scored more brilliant goals against De gea than hazard. Man city and tottenham will want him on sick bed while playing chelsea. We dont need to tell you it's not an ability thingy.

Ibime:
Can he do this 40 times per season to bridge the gap to Messi et al. . . . or is the statistical shortfall in the 20-30 easy goals that Messi and co get that he doesn't.

The answer is clear as daylight. Even Messi can't score 40 goals like this every season.

Goals come in all shapes and sizes but Hazard only scores one type of goal which is the worldie. His mates are padding their worldies with tapins, headers, cutbacks, poaching, volleys etc. And you get those other type of goals with good movement which Hazard is yet to master. Hazard can't score 40 worldies per season even if his name is Pele.

Messi and ronaldo never scored 40 worldies per season. What fab is saying is that hazard should be less-predictable by passing most of the time. In the gif above, if hazard had given willian the pass, you would have said that was the best choice, but he didnt and scored. If he had missed that goal probably i would have joined to blast him for not giving willian that through pass. More of that is what fab wants, because thats what ronaldo and co do. Against city at ettihad he ran and scored the 3rd goal, it's not that he doesnt run but how many of our players have fab eyes to spot it everytime he runs and who will be thereto be as creative as he is for the team? Kante gave him against bournemouth and he buried it. If he scores 6 worldies, 8 penalties and 10 shots like nihilist demanded, that's not a bad stat in epl. He doesn't need 40 worldies to join the bests. Despite haters calling ronaldo, penaldo, he is still being respected.All we want is for him to change his goal scoring mentality. Spurs were thinking he would be romancing the ball when he fired them out of fa cup. Fab's selfishness advice is not about dribbling 3 players to score alone. Ignoring others and finding a way to shoot at goal is included.

Ibime:
That is the right choice. Obviously you see 3 men in his path to goal. There is no reason to take the shot there. Maybe only Ororo or Robben would attempt the shot.

Statistically where Hazard is falling short is the runs into the box for the easy goals, not because he didn't attempt to dribble 3 men and shoot in this kind of situation. That plays a part, but only a minor part. It cannot give him more than 5 more goals per season if he starts dribbling and shoot in situations like these. What he needs to bridge the 30 goal gap between him and the top-dogs is more tapins and penalty box finishes.

You can't tell me Hazard is on 11 or 12 goals and Messi is on nearly 50, and Hazard needs to score 30 dribble-and-score goals to bridge the gap. That's impossible for even Messi. What he needs is the tapins, and the easy finishes.

A right choice that robbed him of an assist and keeps getting him bashed for not having the numbers like messi and ronaldo. Fab had the below gif in mind.

[img]https:///media/4-24-2017/nnP1v9.gif[/img]

lordfalcao:
all these are the truth about hazards game play

Nihilist:
I actually made this point about Hazard at the start of the season and it's very true. Hazard needs to be more selfish in his game. Unfortunately, he somehow feels that he carrys the burden of creating chances for the team.

If hazard chose to pass less and shoot more, he would be unstoppable. Statistically the main difference between Hazard and Messi/Ronaldo is the volume and rate of shots. Everything else is not so disimmilar

Thats right. The guy needs to be talked to. I read one interview he said he wanted to win epl ahead of tottenham because he didnt want dembele and co to mock him after the season. I feel like slapping him. He needs more people like fab to talk to him everytime. Most great goals messi scored are solo goals and you dont score them by not being selfish. Against bilbao, the moment he dribbled his way into the box, his mind was made up to pull the trigger. Shoot! shoot!! shoot!!!

Ibime:
You are wrong mate. Fabregas said he would rather pass than score in a 2-on-1 situation. I expect 50% of 2-on-1 situations to lead to a goal, so unless you show me 20 assists that Hazard made from 2-on-1 situations, this is just pie-in-the-sky theory.

Where I do know Hazard is falling short is in scoring the easy goals - making the run beyond the defence for a first-time finish. Ororo, Messi etc are chopping 20 of these per season, and Hazard is chopping little or none. That is where the difference in goals lies for the most part, not cos he passed the ball in a 2-on-1 situation.

Below is one of the reasons fab advised hazard. Also the reason hazard's assists is not up there. Experts know all these, not rushing to whoscored to check number of assists and wield the big stick.

[img]https:///media/4-24-2017/HAQIme.gif[/img]

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Ibime:
The Messis and CR7s, Neymar, Suarez and Bales are there based on stats, don't let that fool you. If CR7 or Messi score only 15 goals next season, they will lose their crown, it's that simple. That's who Hazard is competing with. What you call "stats" are actually game-winning goals and assists. Eunuch is the only special case whose case is different. He is blessed and highly favoured.

Hazard must improve his runs. Hardly will you see Hazard scoring tapins, or goals where he only needs one touch. Most of his goals involve dribbling a man or two before finishing. Until he starts making those runs he should forget comparison with the top dogs. Pedro is about to outscore him two seasons in a row without penalties.

I stated it weeks back that hazard needed to be running into scoring positions and i could see he is working on that. Now to the emboldened, will you rate pedro over hazard if he outscores hazard this season? There must be a reason you wont dare it. Hazard in a madrid shirt would improve with his numbers, with more quality players behind him, thats a fact.

Greatihex:
To be honest, I am yet to understand how hazard creates one of the highest number of chances in Europe and still have less number of assists.
This your ranking of players based on only stats alone has been found wanting a lot of times and the case of Iniesta is still one of them.

Thats why fab advised him to be more selfish. Not just trying to pull that arsenal's stunt once in a blue moon. Fab advised him to minimise his passes and thats the way to go. In the past benzema would be waiting for ronaldo's pass to tap in, trust ororo he would ignore the fat fool and pull the trigger and score. Benz had no choice than to celebrate with him. This is the art fab was advising hazard on, and believes he could perfect and no one will blame him. What distinguishes top players are not tap-ins but the importance and quality of goals scored. If it's by number of goals, cavani should make top 3 in ballon d'or next year.

bigkesh:
Fabregas, Conte, Drogba, Lampard and Terry should call Hazard's wife, dad and mum for a meeting, to talk sense into that Mumu boy



Be selfish! !!!!!!

Fabregas is right, on the ball Only Messi is better.. ..Guys like Neymar and Grizzy are scoring more

Funny but thats the truth. I believe conte had also told him cause have seen a little improvement. How i wish we have a player like marcelo behind him.

Ibime:
Hazard doesn't make the runs to score 25 goals a season, much less 40 needed to start comparing yourself to such names.

Secondly if he is passing instead of shooting, his assist should be close to 40 if Fabregas argument is that he assists instead of scoring.

The above quote is pie in the sky. He is far far away, even if he became selfish and converted all his assists to goals, he wouldn't have much to compare himself with Messi and CR7.

I'm sorry, that's just the truth. Hardly will you see Hazard making the kind of run that Messi made for the winning goal yesterday, or that Alli made for the equaliser on Saturday. That's what gets you to 30 goals, not super stories that you should convert your paltry 10 assists into goals.

Hazard got a lot of improving to do on timing his runs and anticipation if he wants to hang with the big dogs.

The emboldened is not true. Fabegas was not talking about final passes. There are moments hazard would pass balls to the person who gives the final assist to the goal scorer when he could have done it all alone and score. Also how did you expect hazard to have 40 asists with costa and others misfiring from all cylinders in a league most teams park buses? I can list more than 30 final passes from hazard, 15 of which stars in barca and real would have buried. Fab was trying to let him know he could do it alone. Ronaldo is one of the most selfish players in the game but people overlook this area because he has mastered it well as he put the selfishness into great use. This is what fab was telling hazard that with time he could reach such perfection. Ask most strikers, they would tell you their coaches had told them to be selfish in front of goal in training. The mentality made hazard to score that goal against arsenal not waiting for strikers to get into positions and pass. Fab is a professional footballer and i understand where he's coming from, i am not surprised you couldn't relate with his point of view. Trust me those who have played football at top level will tell you fab was right.

Ibime:
Never heard of it till today. It's absolutely irrelevant, trust me.

Hazard won it 2 seasons ago. That's the award from the organizers of the epl.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/24/17/2909A05400000578-3095077-image-a-198_1432483490153.jpg

Fabregas said: “Ability wise, there is only one player above Eden, and we all know who that is: Messi. Eden is up there with the best.

“But I’ve told him many times, he needs to be selfish and have that killer instinct – then he will be whatever he wants to be.

“Eden is pushing to that level, and we have to help him. Sometimes when it’s two against two and he passes, I tell him ‘Score yourself. Do it’. He has to do it more often, be more selfish, as all the top players are. Then he will be unstoppable.

That's the bitter truth. This is the best time for him to put that into action, since costa has turned to a barren entity. I liked it when he dribbled costa to give matic that pass, to score. Hazard should start playing as if we have no striker.

Ibime:
Which one be Premier League awards?

There are only 3 major awards - PFA players award, PFA fans award, and Football Writers Award. . . . . . of which PFA Players Award is the Daddy.

Which one is Premier League Awards - Is that given out by Goal.com? We have never heard of that one here in Somalia.

LogoDWhiz:
Wow. I'm surprised you haven't, you can google it. PFA is voted by fellow players while TPL awards is by the epl. They are also in charge of the monthly awards. Hazard won it last 2 seasons nd vardy won it last season.

LogoDWhiz:
Thanks.

I should be thanking you.

LogoDWhiz:
Which 1 is the bigger award between the PFA and The Premier League awards?

Premier league awards ofcourse.

Congrats kante.

https://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/ed/13/ngolo-kante_1gxd4h0a6zhcb1ar9soerzsdas.jpg

raumdeuter:
Check the table

So conte is better than pep and mourinho based on your table logic, right?

Messilona

Chelseafan1:
They should sell the guy already and buy Hazard.

2018/2019 season.

Chelseafan1:
Benz shouldn't be playing for Madrid.... Spits!!!!

He's a fool.

Ibime:
Pep the autistic manager took off Aguero to play strikerless formation at 1-1 in a semifinal and lost the game.

What a stvpid move. Pep is a fraud. He is the most overrated coach of all time.