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MEND001:
Guy among all examples na Arsenal u choose. I swear u re lost

That already rendered his point deflated, and no need stressing myself asking why Fraudiola never won UCL without a striker for Barca and City.

nateevs:
Same for Jackson, same for Morata......... But not same for Bellotti and Dovbyk and Vlahovic and Muniz..... to name a few.

I like the impression you have of yourself. You genuinely think you have thought it all through.

Why didn't you add Gyokeres, Osimhen and Guirassy?

Just embrace the sh1t your wasteful Jackson is serving you bro.

Kimbeast:
I knew you would score an own goal as usual. Barcelona recent defensive rigidity with Sczenzy in goal is actually why Barca is going to win the league. Sczenzy has 7 clean sheets in 13league game for barca. 12wins, 1 draw, zero L and 7 cleansheets in 13 games with him. Before Sczenzy Barca played 20games, won 12, lost 5, drew 4, they had only 4 cleansheets in those 20games which explains why they were languishing in 3rd position 7points behind Madrid. They were 4 games without a league win until Sczenzy was made number 1. This was the league table at matchday 20 before Sczenzy was made number 1 against Valencia the next game.

Like i said having a discussion with you is always a waste of time. You are always getting schooled.

Defensive rigidity that got the same Szezny conceding 3 goals against Celta Vigo and 7 goals against Inter over two legs.

nateevs:
You see Madrid, Liverpool and Manchester City for there don't you?........ but you hold on to anything that diverts from the original point.

Leave Arsenal, debate Madrid, Liverpool and City without strikers.

I just went for the weakest among the lots.

Why are you always making blunders in your takes? It is another confirmation that you don't think through most of your views dropped. Same for Jackson, same for Morata.

Kimbeast:
When you are done talking about Barcelona shitty defense who by the way have conceded less league goals than Liverpool, you should also point us to Napoli who are marching on to the league title with the most clean sheet and best defense in Italy.

You are comparing Barca in La liga to Liverpool in Epl. I'm not sure you did logic in school.

Atletico Madrid have impressive number of clean sheets than Barca and they have only conceded 27 goals to Barca's 33 goals. As it stands they have the best defence in La liga based on your criteria. Can you now tell me why Barca is leading them with 12 points? They should be winning the league easy based on their strong defence with highest number of clean sheets.

Data in your hand - useless.

nateevs:
It's a waste of time. I spent a full year explaining to him how Madrid, Liverpool, Arsenal, City.... had multiple successful seasons without a striker. He will quote you out of context, refuse your talking points, deliberately misunderstand you....... then rinse and repeat.

Arsenal, multiple successful seasons.

I don't want Arsenal's type of successful seasons, i believe thats the difference between my goal and yours for Chelsea.

Singapore1:
But you didn't say this to Air marky dey try recruit you . Anybody wey sabi watch football go know Jackson is our second best player after Palmer.

Jackson will come to the midfield to support. hold up, create runs

Na koboko you deserve for this talk. See person wey i dey follow argue

Gucciboy:
Good lord what are you saying?..... What about lordfalcao,kimbeast and their pack of mediocrity dancers even you sef be their chief drummer?

Singapore1:
they won the league with it. PSG also in final with Ramos not starting.

if Neto Madueke Sancho turn up, we won't have time to blame jackson just as no one had time to blame Nunez and Ramos

We shouldn't blame a striker that had 27 shots and none entered the net. You and Jackson dey craze.

Jackson 10 goals in 29 matches and missed 19 big chances (In matches where we lost 2 and 3 points).

FBS:


Scoring goals is the royal road to victory.

"They played in a clever way, but in the two legs we scored more than them and that is the most important thing in football.
Luis Enrique 2025

The same Arsenal that Timbros and co were using their defence to ginger, crashed at the Emirates airport stadium and went to 'see Paris and die'.

Singapore1:
Liverpool won 25 games in the EPL this season, and of those 25 wins, almost half were either 1-0 or 2-0 victories. They also kept 15 clean sheets, meaning in over 50% of their wins, the opponents didn’t score.

Then there's Chelsea, who had only kept about 4 clean sheets before that Everton game.

Funnily enough, we're now in the top-four conversation because we managed 1-0 wins against Everton and Leicester.



I am using Liverpool as an example because they never play with striker and half of their entire GA in EPL comes from Gakpo and Salah. If our wingers have the same output then we wouldn't have to worry about Jackson.

Everyone agrees Jackson is wasteful, but saying his replacement is solution to our problem is pure undiluted lie, especially if you claim to be chelsea fan and watch our match week in week out. But i believe some of you only watch highlights

This is gibberish.

Why was Slot benching Nunez in most matches if fielding a wasteful striker is not a big problem for a team?

timbros:
Continue making my point for me.

LOL.

Is attack the problem?

You are shameless.

nateevs:
@airmark

I genuinely don't have the time to go back and look for posts, and I mean that very respectfully.

If you look back at most of my posts, what you will find is me saying explicitly, that pound for pound, Jackson's output has been the best investment of 30m. My data-led argument was that it is okay to spend 100m or thereabout on a striker, but output cannot be marginal over Jackson's. It must be significantly better. And all the names you kept recommending were around that price mark, but with very marginally better output. It is a perfectly logical argument.

Just because it is not an outright "Jackson out" point of view does mean it doesn't consider a part of your view.


You will also find that I argue that if we had strong support cast, and follow the model of Madrid, Liverpool, you will find that a top 100m striker may not be necessary......I cited the successes of Liverpool and Madrid to back up this argument. I also cited how Spurs had the best striker in the country for years, and never won anything. Again, data-led argument.

Another perfectly logical argument that doesn't refute the purchase of a striker, but saying concentrate first on building other departments.



The third one was, "what's the point abusing Jackson every week?" He's not Haaland. He's not Kane. He was a 21yo, picked out of Spain, with little experience for 30m, by our owners' management strategy. You can decide you don't like him without coming for him every week.

This, and the other arguments don't equal a "don't replace Jackson" stance.


And you will find the same logical arguments from the likes of Kimbeast, Timbros, Singapore1 et al. I take time to read these fellas' POV and I can see the nuance in their respective arguments.


What you are doing is taking a complete anti-Jackson position, and repeating over and over that anyone who doesn't stand where you stand never wanted Jackson replaced. ............ This is a complete misrepresentation of our POV. And as you can see, you have now corrupted the views of these other guys who never followed the debate.

Just this single post of yours below is enough to collapse what you constructed above, with thousands of words. I knew a day like this would come when you would deny Jackson.

nateevs:
Name the 30+ goal striker you can find that is better than Jackson.

timbros:
This is the exact reason why I stop responding to you - the lies and misinterpretations.

1. Telling you to be ready to watch loads and loads of Jackson this season doesn't mean I am against signing another striker. I want to help you pull out of that your fantasy and come back to reality. But here you are, either deliberately misinterpreting me or too dull to understand that being realistic does not mean I support entirely what is going on.

You are a dirty liar. I remember how you and Nateevs were dancing, tagging me to your posts when Jackson wasn't replaced by a better striker at the beginning of the season and scoring cheap goals.

timbros:
Anyhow this game end, I cook Airmark

3-0... I remind airmark how clean sheet is important in football. The attack continues what it has always been doing from last season.

3-1...... I remind airmark that Jackson is on 3 goal contribution in this match.

3-2.... I remind airmark how useless the defence is to nearly throw this game away.

3-3.... The rest is history

Either way, I cook Airmark at 90 minutes.

Now, you are claiming to be strongly in support of a new striker. So why this post at the beginning of the season? You are shameless.

timbros:
You know, the misinterpretation here is mind blowing. Once your opinion differ from Airmark's, he will relentlessly push the agenda that you are 100 percent at the other end of the spectrum.

We support and back the striker we have now means we don't want another striker in CFC.

It's pathetic.

timbros:
I challenge you to quote ANY of my post where I specifically said we ONLY need to fix the defence and NOT touch the attack. And later change mouth.

I challenge you to pull out such posts.





I challenge you to bring out any of my post like this. Pro defence 100 percent. No balance, no attack, just fix defence. Period.

Dig it out.

You are shameless, always 'changing mouth'. What's this rhetorical question for?

timbros:
77 goals last season. Top scorers in the League currently.

Is attack the problem?

You allegedly made a broadcast asking for Wike and Tinubu to be downed and you offered to pay 100m cash, few years ago. Now you are in court and the two are the President and FCT minister respectively. Life drama.

Just sincerely ask for forgiveness and stop forming hardman.

nateevs:
Don't mind Alagba Airmark. He's confused about where he stands on this matter now. He's blown so much hot air, he never left any wiggle room for common sense. So now he has to say if you think that Mr X will take Jackson over bla bla bla, you must be joking.

The problem be say Jackson dey score, dey assist every week, completely destroying the Alagba.

Dem say last week when VAR was checking if Jackson's goal was offside or not, Airmark found himself wishing it was offside

Notice the only fan that never celebrates a Jackson goal. Bad belle on steroids.

Meanwhile, my boy dropping 9GA already in only 9 matches. That's a goal involvement per game. Talk about influence.

You leave what you have, dey wish for gold from next door.

If not for say you be egbon, na koboko i suppose use flog you today.

nateevs:
Two things could be true at the same time. You generally have more time than most people to repeat your stance. It doesn't really mean that people kept quiet. It probably means they don't have as much time as you do.

This is a lie and you know it.

You had enough time to mock and ask how many goals Guirassy and co scored in August/September 2024 and called Jackson, 'my boy', but you didn't have time to post subsequently when you were tagged when your Jackson was missing empty net and making us drop points.

nateevs:
Second point. I can tell you confidently, nobody in here kicked against replacing Jackson. Not one single soul.

You and Timbros were against replacing Jackson as solution. You were all about support cast only and you were here dancing when Jackson was scoring some tap in, to justify your stand. You don't need to be economical with the truth at this point that your eyes are clear regarding your adopted Jackson.

nateevs:
Alhaji, what were you right about? You know how many times you follow me argue say support cast is not the ish?

All goals scored today were scored by the support cast. When I told you repeatedly that all we had was first a tactical issue, and a support cast issue, you were foaming all over the place, looking for 30+ goal striker.

Now we scored the most goals in the PL as at today without having a 30+ goal striker, and you still want to claim correctness?

Airmark get some shame na.

If i post all you typed to defend your wasteful Jackson, i may be banned. So, rest and embrace your wasteful Jackson.

nateevs:
When I was here backing my boy to score 20 goals, you were busy pointing us to Diego Costa as the standard. Guess what? Diego never scored more than 20 goals for us.

nateevs:
This is not true. It's not as clear-cut as pro-defence v pro-attack.

I for one was always pro-balance, across all departments. Ibime for instance has always been pro-midfield, which is the fulcrum for the balance we all crave.

I, like you, saw the whole debate, and I can tell you that from what I learnt from Timbros, Kimbeast et al.....there's not a single person that was not pro-attack. You just had people who feel stronger about other departments.

Anybody that kicked against replacing Jackson, wasn't pro-attack. You and Timbros were against it as you mocked and termed it looking for shiny striker.

What good has your 'unshiny' Jackson done for us now?

timbros:
You are lying to yourself in that bolded. Kimbeast literally posted my stance from the very beginning of this debate.... Was there any attack that messed up before I made that "balance" post?

Again, think for yourself. You have a brain. Make use of it.

You wanted a new CB, despite having Tosin joining and wanted Jackson to continue to play loads and loads of games this season as his wastefulness didn't bother you. You were also against signing a LWF when Sancho was rumoured to be joining.

That's your own composition of finding a balance, which was foolish and I was against.

timbros:
Have you seen loads and loads and loads of Jackson or not?

That comment was made June 2024. Almost a year ago. Can you count how much of Jackson you have watched since then?

Continue living in fantasy while reality stares you in the face.

I told you you will see more of Jackson this season and you did. I don't know your problem with that post

I have no problem with that but with you trying to shy away from your sh1t - Jackson is ok and should continue to play.

We saw how you and Nateevs later became quiet while your misfiring Jackson was the main object of ridicule in the team as he almost terminated our Ucl hopes with his barrenness inside the box.

raumdeuter:
If it happens you will see many Obidients rationalize it

Well, not sure Blueraydick will be a party to that.

@Thazard, even Ibime educated him but Timbros wasn't ready to learn. Don't waste your time on the Balanciaga man.

Ibime:
In this day and age of VAR giving out penalties wotowoto, unlimited injury time to account for time wasting etc, conditions favour attack than defence. Days of 1-0 matches are over. Chances are if you base your team on defence like Chelsea of 2005, you will drop more points on average. Playing in your own box now is an invitation to VAR to award penalties against you and invitation to opposition attackers to look for initiate contact and go down

Yes we can improve on defence, but I bet if our attackers had been finishing their chances early, allowing us to control the game and simultaneously demotivating our opponents, our goals conceded record would be better. Instead what is happening is we fail to score, opponents ginger, score against us some time in 2nd half, then we overextend ourself while chasing equaliser and concede a 2nd goal. All those could have been avoided if our attackers put us in control in the first half by finishing their chances.

The emboldened happened again this season while our striker failed to score in 12 consecutive matches. But how do you convince Timbros who doesn't watch our matches?.

timbros:
You do know that there is something called major problem and minor problem and that a balanced team fixes both part of the problems?

Read my comment again that Kimbeast posted. That has been my stand from day one. Infact click the link he posted to see the genesis of this debate.

Airmark knows exactly what a balanced team looks like but he never want to admit our defence has the major issue. He wants people like you to believe that anyone who argues against him is completely on the opposite side. Since he is pro attack 100 percent, anyone who has a different opinion is 100 percent pro defence. Does that make sense?

Statistics proved that our attack from last season massively improved from 2 seasons ago. But the defence from 2 seasons ago became more worst last season... So where does the major problem lie? An improved attack or a defence getting worst?

If I ask you for proof is speaking from both side of my mouth now, you will start running from pillar to post.

Think for yourself. Use your own brain. Stop allowing people do your thinking for you.

Balderdash as usual.

To you, Jackson wasn't our problem. Just tell us the reason you hate me and Chelsea this much.

timbros:
All of airmark agenda ends here, Nairaland.

Come next season, he will still watch loads and loads and loads of Nicholas Jackson.

No two ways about it.

OasisX:


.......he is likely to team up with Atiku. Otti will quit Labour for a Progressive Party, mark it down.

Team up with Atiku as what? Don't let Donjazet see this.

OasisX:



“………I want to inform Mr President that in 2011, Anambra supported the center. In 2027, the decision remains the same. It is time for all progressives to come together, both APC and APGA, we urge you Mr President to lead us in this. We are fully behind you….”

- Charles Soludo

Obi should just keep his money and not ask anyone to donate funds for his campaign as it's already a lost cause.

raumdeuter:
Boateng won a CL and a world cup

Na that serial winner you wan compare to Obi who lost the last presidential elections, lost as Atiku VP, in 2015 backed Jonathan and lost

You know say court even declare Obi winner in 2006

We know the top performers that won the trophies. Boathand wasn't picked in team of the tournament for both tournaments. Just as Anambra people didn't rate Obi as Governor back then, Fifa and Uefa didn't rate your calamitous Boathand.

Sportsweb:
Wow..so he won't get a medal then if Chelsea wins the competition

Maresca confirmed it already.

Sportsweb:
He is. You think Maresca will deny him possible opportunity to get trophy medal?

He won't play, not registered.

nateevs:
Not sure Lavia is registered to play in the competition.

Not registered.

raumdeuter:
Soludo: The last state visit by a president was to commission a brewery and private enterprise.

Soludo ma soko mo, Softly dey throw stones

Just as you fraudulently hyped Boathand those years, Obidients did the same thing for Obi in order to get to Aso rock.

zeez7:
Unlike you a stats and livescore merchant, I watched the game. The only difficult save you can credit to raya was the very awful penda vitinha took. Donna on the other hand, made 3 world class saves
One saka top corner
Odegaards powerful shot from the edge of the box
Then martinelli's close tap in from the goalies area. Stop misleading people here please

You are arguing with somebody who still clamored for washed Sterling to be starting for Chelsea.

All the curses by Arsenal fans on Sterling, are supposed to be directed at Kimbeast.