₦airaland Forum

mirinder:
Who is feeling this new burnaboy jam (last last). The beat is mad. I need igbo and shayo, I need igbo and shayo, ibime I need igbo and shayo, airmark I need igbo and shayo, popiziano I need igbo and shayo, donstan18 I need igbo and shayo, almajirihunter I need igbo and shayo, bluemann I need igbo and shayo, ebukacute I need igbo and shayo, raumdeuter I need igbo and shayo, blueangel444 I need to smoke and shayo, whodeyhause I need igbo and shayo.

Na wa o.

donstan18:
So...

Fireboy >> Wizkid

Fireboy >> Rema and all those youngies you can think of, in that Naija.

donstan18:
Rema>>>> All his peers.

And that’s fact.

Probably, except Fireboy. Fireboy just performed at Wembley today. Not sure any Afrobeat singer did that before him.

WhoDeyHause:
Stop making noise.The only thing your dead club can hijack is poverty. Where will you people see 65 million to pay? Lewadoski you have been chasing for plenty months has still not come closer. Know your level.
Fc Sapalona.

Sapalona.

If we miss out on Raphinha, we should go for Otavio of Porto. Saw some of his clips, he looks impressive.

DissTroyer:
You are an airheaded nitwit.

How do you know which streams are bots or organic?

You claimed Ckay's views are bots which implies Fireboy's views are organic?

See how biased you are? How do you know which songs are bot-propelled?

You either bring evidence to support your claim that Ckay's views are bots and Fireboy's are organic or do a Jimmy Jatt - Jump off a cliff.

Those who followed our convo will understand you are ignorant and the reason you resulted to insult. I won't go down low with you, as you have exposed your ignorance enough to know you are empty upstairs regarding Naija music.

DissTroyer:
How do you know which streams are bots or organic?

Obviously you don't know and you want the person you insulted to educate you. Foolish display of ignorance.

donstan18:
But you started it before he joined the argument using your metric.

What metric did I use?

DissTroyer:
What's your yardstick for measuring which artiste is more organic than the other?

Fireboy has a fanbase built over time (6 years). Ckay came on the scene during the lockdown when shows couldn't be held. 2 years later with gathering rules relaxed, Ckay has been holding shows.

Fireboy 6yrs or wetin? Are you trying to say CKay blew after Fireboy? CKay that signed a record deal and came out in 2016? You should stop this bro.

Fireboy broke in 2019, after signing with Ybnl. CKay released so many tracks that flopped until Love Nwantiti happened. So, don't fly that kite that Fireboy joined the game professionally before CKay.

It's a lie that Fireboy built fanbase for 6yrs while CKay came out after lockdown. You are trying to do too much

popizaino:
Airmark is not disputing Ckay's numbers,he is only saying those numbers are inorganic that's why with such a view numbers he can't sell out any Arena. It just simple cross reference.

Disstroyer is simply deluded, those in the industry knows how it's going.

DissTroyer:
The issue isn't about talent. This argument (?) began when I mentioned Ckay is doing more numbers and has done very well then you countered to posit Ckay is a fluke one-hit wonder who is no longer topping the charts.

As always, my comeback to that was to bring facts - indisputable facts. Ckay has been consistent on the charts since 2020.

Talent is arguable, numbers aren't.
----

Why would you compare Fireboy to anyone in the first place when it comes to music content? Davido and Wizkid can't even lace Fireboy's boots when it comes to lyrical content. Never.

But Nonso Amadi is a better lyricist and musician compared to Fireboy. Yes, he's new school too. But he's not doing the numbers.

When it comes to lyrical content, I don't rate Ckay on Top 50.

The issue is about numbers. And when it comes to the numbers game since 2020, Fireboy is nowhere near Ckay., and I provided evidence for that claim. That's where I came in and I have stuck to. Anything else is muddying the waters deliberately.

You and this Love Nwantiti numbers. . Numbers that don't translate to soldout personal tours? Why is it hard for CKay to run personal tour in different cities in the US?

Who is topping the Billboard Afrobeat chart? Definitely not CKay, so forget all those bots generated streams you are aggregating. Those in the industry knows that Fireboy is bigger than him, that's why he commands more important shows home and abroad.

Android17:
Nah, I gotta defend my man Sterling. He is certainly not overhyped. No matter how many chances he misses, how do you explain away his numbers? What about his availability? How many times have you read that Raheem got hurt and missed games? IMHO, the greatest ability is availability and Raheem has that. This is coming from me who pulled my eyes out due to some of his misses. But the kid is consistent and he will produce numbers.

If Chelsea can get the CB they want and perhaps another midfielder who can transition from defense to offense like Rice, they'll compete with City to the very end without injuries.

His stupidity in front of goal is available for Fraudiola, he should keep him. Tuchel is even mad for considering him. Anybody suggesting Sterling for us, should be stoned on his head like this one below.

raumdeuter:
People like us will like to see Werner and Sterling combo. Make you come recall Morata join them.
Sterling Right wing, Werner left wing Morata top striker. Treble don sure

Joezinho:
This is one of the best musical performance I have seen from a Nigerian...

No doubt Rema is talented but comparing the likes of Rema, Ckay to Fireboy is like comparing Sancho to CR7...Rema and Omah lay should be the ones getting comparisons..

I will pick fireboy DML anytime and any day over others. Fireboy and kizz Daniel are the definition of talents.

Kizz Daniel and Fireboy have more hit songs than most present day Nigerian artists...

These are the obvious facts that Disstroyer hates to see and accept. Obviously, he doesn't know that streams and views can be manipulated, that's why he was hugging it with all his might.

Fireboy is more talented than Ckay and others and his tracks are there. His trifecta is highly anticipated, as that BET performance boosted his rating astronomically.

donstan18:
Now way you’re not happy low key.

I prefer Divemar to Sterling Sha.

CAPdan21:
Omoh fireboy nor be Ckay and Rema mate abeg...Rema has a lot of pre hype due to being under Don Jazzy and the Wizkid comparisons, he's good Sha though I nor too gbadun some of e songs, Ckay is riding off tax of love Nwantiti, he still has a lot to prove....This comparison reminds me of an argument I had some years ago when I told them Anderson. paak was a better artist than Chance the rapper and I almost got crucified cuz chance was coming off the success of Coloring book and won some Grammys later that year...I mostly judge artist by complete body of works like album and not hit singles, and Fireboy has made 2 fantastic albums with No Skips...

You said it all. How can a singer milk song for almost 4yrs and nothing more and be compared to someone with 2 solid albums and a Billboard 100 appearance?

Fireboy's body of work will keep on getting his big arenas filled, while his contemporaries struggle to fill up 300 capacity.

His Bet performance was impressive with standing ovation for him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6j0B_z_Xeg

Itsrm:
I overheard a song a couple of days back on radio and I've not been able to track the song nor the musician.

Unfortunately the only line I remember was something like he hardly gets credit alerts but numerous debit alerts.

Do you by any chance know the song?

Donstain18 Disstroy

This must be a song by Andrewbaba44 of Dead Barca.

DissTroy:
Again, numbers don't lie.

Fireboy needed to go meet Ed Sheeran (who's a streaming numbers god) to boost his streams. That's why if you take away Fireboy's remix with Ed Sheeran, his combined streams on YouTube and Spotify for Peru is less than 60 million.
And Fireboy only has Peru doing the numbers.

Ckay without any collaboration on Emiliana is raking in almost combined streams on YouTube and Spotify of 200 million streams, and dwarfing Fireboy's numbers.

No Nigerian song has stayed on top of the charts for up to 2 years but Ckay did it.

Don't be deceived by bot generated streams, bots don't attend shows that's why CKay can't put up US tours till now where he will sell out 4k+ arenas.
Fireboy had a successful tours in US, with like 21 solid songs rendered. You don't raze down arenas by singing 1000 Love Nwantiti remixes and Emiliana.

DissTroy:
Ckay without any collaboration on Emiliana is raking in almost combined streams on YouTube and Spotify of 200 million streams, and dwarfing Fireboy's numbers.

.

This is a lie and you know it.

Fireboy's vibration, Tattoo, Scatter, Champion didnt need bots to get attention of Fifa, Bayern Munich, NBA and other bodies.

donstan18:
Hello Chief Airmark, how’s the family?

I hope you’re getting ready to support Chelsea’s progress Ahead of banter?

Divemar should go back to Dead Barca.

DissTroy:
Let's look at the facts.

Ckay - "Love Nwantiti" (original and remix) as uploaded on the artiste's streaming account

Spotify: 1.07 billion streams https://open.spotify.com/artist/048LktY5zMnakWq7PTtFrz

YouTube: 477.2 million streams: https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2JK6aiMx7TIFwkhMjLfyp0lMO1d5jFDC

Fireboy - "Peru" (original and remixes)
as uploaded on artiste's streaming accounts:

Spotify: 200 million streams https://open.spotify.com/artist/75VKfyoBlkmrJFDqo1o2VY

YouTube: 104. 13 million streams. https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCvrQdOvBRW-ycBQ32o1BCQw/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0

Total streams
Ckay - "Love Nwantiti" streams: Spotify + YouTube: 1. 547 billion streams.

Fireboy - "Peru" streams: Spotify + YouTube: 304.13 million streams.

Ckay wins since you made it a competition. Numbers don't lie.



This is just whataboutism.

You countered Fireboy has shattered Ckay's records and I brought irrefutable proof Ckay is on top of the Nigerian music streaming food chain.

By the way, even Clay's "Emiliana" has combined 68.325 million views on YouTube and 120 million (original and acoustic) on Spotify. That's a combined 188.325 million streams.

Ckay also has the highest monthly stream at 18.5 million.

I deliberately left out Tiktok impressions because it dwarfs all African artistes. Ckay does in that regard.


I never get involved in debates I never have evidence for. Time has proven if I make a claim, I already have the evidence for it but deliberately withdrawing it.

Facts only!

You are just proving me right that CKay is just a hit wonder, with Love Nwantiti.

You said CKay topped Charts I told you it's Love Nwantiti that toped Charts and not CKay. Vibration was on Apple music chart for 3 months, same as other hits by Fireboy in the past. Peru drowned CKay in the US and Nwantiti is no more charting Afrobeat Billboard chart. In fact Fireboy holds the record as Peru is the longest topping Afrobeat music on no. 1.

CKay's latest song ft Davido is already DOA as it's not topping any chart. Fireboy, Rema, Omahlay will beat him 10 hits v 10 hits.

lordfalcao:
Deco been raphinha agent might be key , why it went our way. Based on former player things

More of this from you.

DissTroy:
The issue was about topping charts and I presented how Ckay has topped those charts.
Charts equal consistency.

You could as well posit Kizz Daniel's "Buga" blowing up is due to TikTok.

Numbers don't lie and when it comes to numbers, Ckay has been up there on the Nigerian music food chain for over 2 years now.

About albums; I'd point this out: Johnny Drille has been the face of alternative music in Nigeria for over 5 years now. Household name in his genre. Yet he didn't release any album until September 2021.

Ajebo Hustlers have more albums than him.

Album do not equal being at the top. There are a gazillion albums released by unknown artistes at Alaba Market.

If anything, Ckay has become the yardstick for timely release of music for longevity. Check billboard, streaming and other charts in the last two years to confirm.

Ckay is not topping charts, Nwantiti was topping chart and that's why many see him as one hit wonder, and that has been turned to shreds by Fireboy's Peru on Billboard, Apple and Spotify.

You don't use one song to place an artiste above more consistent artistes with multiple hits. What's in CKay's discography that will drawn Omahlay's let alone Fireboy's?

Pls Johny Drille without an album for years, can be face of alternative whatever, where competition is not rife. Afrobeat is at a level in which without successive hits back to back, you will be out of radar and rely on social media influencers to rescue you.

popizaino:
Is it safe to tell ibime and Airmark to swallow their L and never criticise sergio Busquet going forward?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkvuxdbam4

You will soon post where Antonio Conte hailed Alonslow, to prove he is a great player and why we shouldn't go.

swiz123:
Sterling is just too stupid and useless.

This is the player some people want for Chelsea. If you like Pounds Sterling, no problem, but Raheem, he should go to Dead Barca.

Expert17:
Delete this post fast

See what you and Blueray said about Sterling. Thunder fire all those who wish Chelsea bad with a big goat like Sterling.

kingBolton:
Do you think this holy boly has the money to compete with sheikh?

It seems this guy is too holy with spending.

lordfalcao:
but you are looking for fit pulisic that doesn’t know where the post and his leg is

Sterling is stupid in front of goal. I will even prefer Maximin.

nihilistjnr:
That Rema album was album of the year to me o. Probably one of thr best albums to come out of Nigeria in the last decade imo.

Almost no skips. I know I played the hell outta that album a couple of months ago, and 3 or 4 tracks are still in rotation on my playlists.

That's weird. I couldn't listen to the album twice.

I only added Divine, Are you there?, Oroma and Calm down to my playlist. I didn't feel the lyrics, rhymes in most of the tracks, the production was great though.

popizaino:
I definitely want Zinchenko.

Why can't we get Cucurella?

DissTroy:
Ckay a one-hit wonder?

Ckay has topped all charts since early 2020 with "Love Nwantitit". Followed up with " Emiliana" in 2021 and several collabos.

Staying in the limelight for 2 years and 6 months on the Nigerian music scene and topping all charts without fail is no fluke.

Since 2020, Ckay has consistently been on top 5 streams of Nigerian songs. 2 straight years on top 5. Only Burna Boy and Wizkid have managed that record in that period.

Give the boy the respect he deserves. And he did it on his own without hype from the industry or a mega label.

What chart did Emiliana top? He is good but without a TikTok influenced Love Nwantiti, he is not better than Rema and Omah lay, based on number of hits.

I can't even list 6 hits from CKay that I will want to pay for his personal concert. What songs will he sing back to back in his 2hr show for me? How many years now, no album?

donstan18:
Why is it difficult for you to use your metric to agree that Fireboy >>Olamide+Brymo+2face??

Because based on longetivity, Fireboy needs to be consistent over time, those ones have more albums than him.

Let's compare Rema and Fireboy, they blew same period. I know Rema disappointed you with that mid album.

DissTroy:
Actually, it's Ckay if the topic is on Nigeria's biggest new school export and chart-shattering records.

One hit wonder. Come off it bro.

donstan18:
Same with Olamide and Fireboy, one is a local champion, while the other is internationally recognized.

Ok, so you agree that Fireboy >>>>>>>>> Rema.

donstan18:
Rema broken out before Fireboy.

So if you compare the two because of BET performance, I’ll compare Olamide and Fireboy with the same.

Yet lagging behind him. The gap keeps widening by the day.

lordfalcao:
people are underrating sterling.. how many wingers have his numbers in the top five league..

You don start again? Man City reject, is who you want for your team. Continue.