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BlueMann:
Is this 3-4-3 or 3-4-1-2

thorrvik55:
But some scummies in Manure thread will tell u Harry Kane is washed up

macjireh:
Laumdeuter has refused to log on since last night,,abi him go Church Neva come back ni

elrony:
Which kain pinshure be this?

Obere4u:
No better way to serve an L than CALAMITOUS LUIZ KEPPING A CLEAN SHEET AGAINST ALMIGHTY PEP

Oasis007:
Solskjær: "I trust our referees not to be influenced and I believe me moaning about the referee will not do us any favours. I think the standard of refereeing is great."

popizaino:
Hope you go show up when we call you out for conte?

Roland17:
Luiz shock me today I no go lie! Baba was heading everything, throwing himself at shots and challenging everything..

BikeMan:
Raumdeuter, how much does Guardiola need to start dominating again?!

BlueAngel444:
are you part of this vision for Chelsea line-up next season

Greatihex:
top assister and top scorer are useless if they don't win points. So basically, as long as you win the points you carried that team, because you stood up to the occasion when it was difficult.

Maybe those that top assists and goals were doing it against farmers and when it didn't matter, just like the goals that Liverpool have been scoring since they won the league are useless.

Do you agree that Hazard carried Chelsea to EPL in 2015?

timbros:
SMH...

Go back and read the post I quoted and read my italics again, this time slowly.

Since you cannot see that that comment is me using Ibime's "if" analogy against him, then I'm done with you.

larride:
Maybe he will have scored more than that if a certain Ikebe super bought with 100m did his job efficiently and managed to stay fit.

Bville02:
You slipped in Boateng like we won't notice. Boateng deserves all the disrespect he's getting.

Greatihex:
This stat explains it all.

I have not followed football for a long time like some of our ogas here, but the little I have followed it I know that the game is not just 1+1=2. And I believe that is why the game is the most followed game/sports on earth.

I did not watch any madrid match fully this season, so I can't tell who contributed more or not. Therefore, I am not joining in the Benzema argument. But I want to say this. Football is a team sports. And every member of the team contributes to the success of the team one way or the other. Although, not everyone has the same degree of contribution, but no position in the team is more important than the other. The midfielder is as important as the defender. The attacker is as important as the defender, and vice versa. Everyone on the pitch is important as long as they are doing their job, whatever it may be, very well.

Now, about those who downplay the importance of defence just because they feel emotionally attached to goals and the people that score them, here is my summation with an example.

The issue of clean sheet and more goals is not just black and white.

Let's say for instance, Chelsea have two matches to play to end the season, right?
Now, let's say we need maximum points, which is 6 points.
Now, let us use these two matches remaining for Chelsea as examples.

First.
Liverpool 0 : 4 Chelsea (Abraham 4 goals)
Wolves 1 : 1 Chelsea (Abraham 0 goal)

Second
Liverpool 1 : 2 Chelsea (Abraham 1 goal)
Wolves 0 : 1 Chelsea (Abraham 1 goal)

Third scenario.
Liverpool 0 : 0 Chelsea
Wolves 0 : 0 Chelsea

Fourth scenario
Liverpool 3 : 2 Chelsea
Wolves 2 : 1 Chelsea


First scenario = 4 points.
Second scenario = 6 points.
Third scenario = 2 points
Fourth scenario = 3 points


First scenario, the team did a good job if you total it, but no maximum points. And Abraham did a great job totally but when you look closely you will see comma.

Second scenario, the team did a great job if you look closely, but compared to the first one with total stats gathered, they didn't meet up, yet they got maximum points. Also, Abraham in the first scenario scored more, but did not do better than the second scenario.

Third and fourth scenario is self explanatory.

The conclusion is that it is not about total goals scored or total conceded at the end of the season, it is about the team performance every match day.
A striker's contribution is not when he scores 50 goals total, it is how many matches he was able to score in when the team needed it. That is, it is not about giving 9/10 performance in 30% of the season's matches, it is about giving consistent, at least, 7/10 in 80% of the season's matches. That is what is important.

airmark:
Vinicius will thank Pique for the deflected goal. Diaz will only thank Zidane for giving him the chance to do, in 2mins, what Benzema couldn't do for 90 mins.

raumdeuter:
How many of them are leading their teams in goals and also in assist

raumdeuter:
Only a MMM and commandclem analyst will make the above posts

timbros:
This your post goes both ways.

If Courtois doesn't play, will Real Madrid play with 10 men? Another goal keeper will surely take his place and any decent goal keeper that keeps for Madrid will keep at least 3/4 clean sheets, at which point the goals is the real Championship winner since you can replace Courtois with any Madrid-level goalkeeper and still win the League.

Ibime:
That's between Benzema and the other attackers.

Nothing to do with the defence who have posted World Class stats.

Benzema 21 goals is not a World Class stat. He can only use that to flog his fellow attackers who flopped.

A member of the defence must be honoured when the defence posts World Class stats on the way to a Championship and no striker posted World Class stats. That's why Terry was honoured in 2005 over Lampard who scored 20 goals, and why VVD was honoured over Salah who scored 20 or 21 league goals.

A40:
You are a demented mofo. And a shameless liar at that to suggest that was from 1 game. I thought you foolishly claimed there was no Courtois slander in the 19/20 season when the reality was he was useless from August to October at the very minimum

Next time crosscheck before typing nonsense with your leprous fingers.

A40:
When did Benzema ghost for 11 games in a row you lying fork tongued serpent.

pu7pl3:
Benzema was poor in front of goal last night, infact in his past 11 matches .

A40:
Exactly. Benzema alone contributed 29 goals + assists. No other Madrid player combined for more than 10 goals + assists. None. Have you ever seen something like that before?

ShitStain:
Lmao!
This courtois skirt pics gets me every time.

A40:
I don't blame you. O ti'n di arugbo. You now have the memory capacity of a goldfish

timbros:
SMH... Which team concede 32 goals in 4 matches? Are we discussing the defending team here or the attacking team?

And you even translated those figure literally!

Obviously I've been wasting my time all the while.

timbros:
You mentioned Burundi, Rwanda, Estonia leagues in response to my initial comment of scoring bucket loads of goals to secure the league.

To counter that mockery, I referred you to two seasons two teams scored large quantities of goals to win the league.

Please tell me what Goal Against or Goal Difference has to do with this?

Didn't Man City and Chelsea scored goals for fun in those seasons? Was it is Rwanda, Estonia or Burundi leagues they scored those goals?

timbros:
You can win the league with a porous defence. All you need to do is outscore your opponents. 10-9, 5-4, 13-12, 8-7 etc... If you continue like this till season ends, you will secure maximum points.
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BlueMann:
Then you measure their performances and contrast with what is expected of them as 'World class players'. For a world class striker, one could argue that Benzema's contributions wete very good but not exceptional. But Courtois and Ramos were exceptional, taking into account their status, which is Airmark's point.

timbros:
Benzema didn't score in those matches, yes. But Madrid scored that is why they won those matches. Stop making it look like it was all defence that delivered the league.

You only need to look at Madrid's top scorers to know the importance of Benzema this season. With 21 goals, the next best scorer is a defender with 10 goals (a large chunk being PK).... Doesn't that tell you that Madrid's attack is shit if not for Benzema?



Chelsea didn't outscore their opponents, simple.



2009/10 Chelsea must have played Burundi or Rwanda league when we were scoring 6 to 8 goals for fun...

timbros:
Man City 2017/18 that ended the league with 106 goals must have played Estonian league to be scoring 3 to 5 goals per game almost consistently.