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eph12:
But you were Hummels case during the world cup for missing goal scoring chances that would have kept Germany in the competition. Glad to know it doesn't matter anymore

You forgot to add 'oponu' at the end of your statement.

eph12:
Which one be pon pon football again? Lol

Diggz will update you.

Eruditor:
Nobody said the defense did not improve or that he is inconsequential to the improvement. The question is, is he the sole reason? The answer is no, or at least not based on any data that has been presented here.

There's a reason some people called Barca, Messi fc, despite other players doing their best. When someone is pivotal to your improvement, no two ways about it.

When you see people tipping vvd as not only the best in epl, but saying he's one of the cbs in the world, then you should know he wasn't being rated because of his height.

Redknapp: “A moment of ingenuity and leadership like this highlights Van Dijk's value to Jurgen Klopp's side. With every week that passes, the £75m man is proving he is worth every penny.”

Neville: Milner for Liverpool , who have been outstanding. Virgil van Dijk: outstanding. But Van Dijk – worryingly – has impressed me more than anybody. He’s just a fantastic central defender.

Riise: “The best CB [centre-back] in the world is Virgil van Dijk.

“The difference he has made since he came. So calm. Can play. Strong in the air.

“Power! Pure power! Big fan! And he wasn’t worth the money (!) I bet every club wished they had him now.”

Carragher: ‘I knew Van Dijk was a good player, but he is better than what I thought,’

‘We’ve always said Liverpool can’t win the Premier League because of their defence, but now they have Van Dijk, who I think is the best centre back in the Premier League.

‘I can’t think of a defender off the top of my head that is better. He’s the man to step into the positon Vincent Kompany has had over the last four seasons as that leader and colossus.

‘They are very similar as players – there is nothing they lack. When Kompany was at his best three years ago, I didn’t think there was a centre-back that was better than him.

‘Over the next three or four years, if Liverpool could win a league or a Champions League, I think Van Dijk has the potential to actually go down alongside Alan Hansen if we’re talking about Liverpool’s best ever teams – that’s how good he is and how good he can become.

Before VVD joined Liverpool, I'm not sure these guys above had rated any of their cbs like this. Sane minds know what it means, only fools will still argue with what is obvious.

Liverpool fans already have a special song for him, if they have for other defenders, sing it, you can use raumdeuter's head as drum.

eph12:
Vidic and Ferdinand had same interception rate but Vidic was busy making tackles and budeeing the ball all over the pitch.

Raumdeuter: Ferdinand was the better defender

You don play pon pon football.

Ibime:
There are things we look for in defence that you would not notice, not glitz and glamour. It's not by overexuberance that makes us rate defenders, it's those who organise their teammates well as a unit.

This is what you see in great defenders like Terry, Puyol and Co and what Boathand lacks.

Vvd is the leader in Liverpool's defence, and already warming himself into the hearts of soccer experts and sensible soccer fans.

eph12:
Sergio Ramos tackle per match is far higher than VVD and LaPorte. What a terrible defender! I just checked up some defenders that people praise and either they have high tackle or clearance rate. There are no more great defenders. Wait LaPorte is the last man standing

Raumdeuter's silly logic. Lordfalcao would be proud of his mentor

eph12:
Do you know that whoscored do highlight the better stat in green during comparison?

Apari raumdeuter keeps disgracing himself.

patrickmuf:
So, you have not been watching VVD on the field? You laid claims to the over 10 goals Liverpool conceded but when Airmark asked you to highlight just 5 goals that was directly caused by VVD you retracted.
If you don't want to give VVD his due accolades citing the marked improvements of others around him, why should we recognize the contributions of Boateng, Vidic, Ramos, Puyol etc Didn't they have even better team mates than VVD currently have at Pool?

Neuer was the best goal tender then, thunder must fire raumdeuter and his boathand

raumdeuter:
Boateng in 2013 played alongside Dante and a 20yr old Alaba

Who was the keeper? Oponu

Only fools would say VVD inclusion has not improved Liverpool's defence and made them to be where they are on the table.

No time arguing with fools all the time.

BlackManta:
You deliberately ignored the 3 major places VVD leads Laporte but focused on only interceptions.

The interceptions sef is very close.

LaPorte got 1.3 and VVD has 1.2.

Very close.

Meanwhile VVD dey give LaPorte serious gap for blocks and clearances.

He also leads LaPorte in tackles.

Of course you saw that but you deliberately pretend you no see am.

Lordfalcao, come and see your mentor, raumdeuter, doing what he knows best. Shameless apari.

Afolabi6046:
he's known to promote what favours him, he once said transfermarket.com knows better than FIFA.com

One of the facts apari raumdeuter used to impress lordfalcao.

larride:
That Morata miss funny though.

Raumdeuter's Bayern need a striker. 40m will do.

BlackManta:
VVD vs LaPorte.

2018/19 PL season.


Make una come see am o.

Raumdeuter is a disgrace to we Ogbomosho people. He is known for turning fact on its head.

Laporte ko, lapoor ni.

raumdeuter:
In 2008 West Ham beat Man Utd home and away

Raumdeuter's fact lie.

Lukaku was missed today

BlackManta:
You have not done anything to counter the two good points I gave you.

VVD played more big teams but apparently you don't know how to counter that point.

I told you LaPorte has less work to do this season cuz City's attack is so good hence the defense has less workload.

Unlike Liverpool where their attack lost form and their defense has greater work load.

Liverpool has struggled against some small teams this season but City is busy thrashing teams upandan.

Hence VVD has faced greater challenges than LaPorte.

Can you counter that point.

Dayo no know ball.

Ibime:
Why can't Laporte be called up as 3rd CB instead of Adil Rami?

Like lacasera, he carries L for back.

RuuDie:
Sorry sorry for any team that Hazard is main man. Useless somebody. Na only to dey slow game down with dat him big nyash!

It's obvious, you didn't watch the full match.

raumdeuter:
After I have destroyed you with facts everytime then only thing you can hang onto is your foolishness that exceed human comprenhension

Below was also a fact, right?

raumdeuter:
Yaya was a terrible defensive midfielder who lacks discipline and positioning which is why Barça chased him away when he got to city he couldn't still play DM rather they had to buy Dejong Fernando Fernandinho just to cover his indiscipline

Morata needs help

raumdeuter:
Where is blackmanta to bring his facts

Maybe you havent been told , I bludgeon people t death with facts. So the first thing is to always get your facts right and leave your emotions at the door

Facts like

Yaya toure joined City before De jong and other lies.

Leyqute:
Lookat Kortoise

Lazy keeper

chic2pimp:
Ntorrrrrrr..

You won a fight without lifting a hand.

BlackManta:
Since Van Dijk's arrival in January, Liverpool has conceded the least number of goals and kept the most clean sheets than anyone across all 5 European top leagues in 2018 #Facts

This is not a joke.

It is truth.

I won't argue with you, plz check out the statistics for yourself.

But according to some people VVD is overrated and has not improved Liverpools defence.

The statistics say otherwise.

VVD is arguably the best defender in PL.

I wonder where Liverpool would be without him.

You can cherry pick Van Dijk 's performance looking for something to use against him but you take away his stats and records away from him.

He is one the best.

Dayo is a disgrace, ignore him.

timbros:
Exactly what I was trying to say.

If Van Dijk is the reason Liverpool defence is water tight, he should also be included in the reason why Liverpool defence leak goals.

That's why i blamed him for Karius' howler, and was shocked he wasn't sold and also in ucl team of the season.

timbros:
OK let's assume for a second that the flicks and tricks was the problem. What does that tell you about Cole's skills? Unproductive, unnecessary, aimless. That's why Mourinho was angry.

You are wrong, there's a reason some iddiots tagged Hazard shakushaku dancer and cried that he did unneccessary dribbles. Does that take away from him, the fact that he is skillful?

Mou is not known for admiring skillful players. Strength and speed majorly aided Robben's productivity on the pitch, which made him, preferred to Cole. He covers more attacking space with those attributes, not only because of his skill. He was very swift, with his 'left-leg-to-the-ball' movements.

Mou complaining about Cole inability to track back, confirms his lack of strength compared to Robben, not because of inferior skill.

raumdeuter:
Madrid had 12 shots and 6 of them on target in 90mins. 6 shots on target is that restricting?
These are some of the chances Madrid missed or the same Karius we are abusing saved. Some of them 100 percent chances and where was VVD in those instance?
These are other chances saved by last ditch tackles from Liverpool defenders not VVD

So the idea that Liverpool defence in last CL was solid and Karius plus Milner were the ones ruining the good work of VVD is false

This season in the CL with VVD, they have conceded 5 goals in 4 games without Karius

Balderdash, show us Van dijk vs Real madrid. mumu.

Bonus


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNPnfoFihCc

timbros:
Mou yelling at Joe Cole doesn't mean he was the most skillful. We know Mou as a defensive coach. If you don't track back, you get yelled at. Whatever you do in the pitch, Mou expect you to track back. So he could yell at Duff, Crespo, Kezman if they don't track back.

@bolded...yes true, at a point when Arjen Robben have left Chelsea...

I told you that Mou was yelling at him and mimicking his flicks you are here talking about tracking back. Abeg lemme enjoy my weekend.

timbros:
If Liverpool conceded just one goal to the final last year, we would have heard phrase like "Van Dijk marshaled Liverpool defence that's why they conceded only one goal to the final" or "Vav Dijk led Liverpool defence impenetrable" or "Since Van Dijk arrived, Liverpool don't concede goals anymore"..... But now that Liverpool conceded bucket loads of goals to the final, it is Milner's diflection, Karius error etc...

Airmark I see you. Weldone.

Dont get it twisted I don't analyze football like idiotts. I study player's individual contributions to team's success. I would have expected you and Dayo to bring out Van dijk contributions to at least 6 of the 10 goals conceded. Would they have conceded more and got knocked out before reaching the final, if not for him? Absolute YES.

UEFA must be a fool to you, just like me, putting someone who joined in January in ucl team of the season. That's something sane minds will know it boils down to his individual abilities in the team.

Also I don't think he is the most popular cb, in case any mofo wants to play the senseless 'popularity contest' card.

raumdeuter:
And the one Sterling did to him we should blame Milner and karius for those too. The brand of foolishness in you deserves a patent

I was expecting you to point to 10 now, since he should be blamed for all the 10 goals, oponu.

raumdeuter:
The individual performances that ensure his team conceded 10 goals in 5 matches, A defender who was part of a defence that conceded 10 goals is what this one is shouting about

He was responsible for Karius blunder, Milner's deflected goal and others caused by other players right?. The stupidity in you, is second to none.

raumdeuter:
Van dyke was the marquee signing in the defense and he was the one getting bumped off the ball by sterling

You are naturally dumb anyways. Vvd led defense conceded 10 goals in 5 cl matches

You have to be exceptionally retarded to think he was the one who led them to the final and not their attack that was scoring for fun

Stop repeating the same thing. Van dijk joined in January and he won a spot in ucl team of the season. Maybe he was picked because he was tall and not his individual performances. Ode.

raumdeuter:
Blame your half education for lack of common sense. Vvd was part of the defense that conceded 10 goals in 5 games.

They should thank their attack scoring many goals

You pointed at one error, instead of 10. Can you see how moronic your assertion is?

We must blame Van dijk for Allison's howler against Iheanacho too in epl. Your head is full of dust.

raumdeuter:
Whose error was this and who should be blamed for it

That's error not errorS. 10 goals conceded and we must blame him for all. That's idiotic from you.