PrettyGaby:
1. We are not under the law.
2. Trousers were not originally made for men. Once upon a time, guys who wore trousers were termed 'effeminate' and weren't allowed in churches. Check your history...
3. If trousers are sinful because men wore them at some point in history, then the same can be said of high heels and wigs...
Let's focus on important things abegi

Is this what your pastor is teaching you?

AlfaSeltzer:
I can see that there will be joy in many places at the announcement of my death.

UjSizzle:

I don't know. Why are now a woman?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_surgery_(male-to-female)

Mintayo:

Funny, I wanted to ask too. I hope it has nothing to do with the "paid super-mod ish"? Or maybe anything to do with the "islamic section".
Howdy everyone?

God knows and seun and the other mods know too..

Longest time, how's Jesus?

UjSizzle:

He's alive and well, and quit being a mod.

Was he threatened?

PastorAIO:


What can we do to pick it up? Any suggestions?

Just say the word,the word giveth life!
Revive all the dead patriarch,
Revive all the dead alumni!

Rationalmind, when did you become a Muslim atheist!

rationalmind:


Lol, I shall not die but live and declare the works of the Lord

Nysc is fine. Hoping they do implement the 500 naira daily feeding allowance soon

How's funaab?

Haa, after your fat salary or lemme call it allowance!
Hope you are not teaching the student atheism?

Funaab is there!

andyallor:
Logic boy - direct, witty and intelligent arguments he types. Sometimes I feel he want shake some sence into his opponents

Muskeeto - almost like logicboy, but has his unique ways of getting his opponents on the defensive mood. He's good in short.

Ooman - hmn ..... He's a knight in shining atheist armour, ready to accutely argue his ideas, all I know is I always agree with his stance.

Platteon (hope I got the spelling right ) he's funny though accurate (to me o) and he's logical in his debates and makes me wish I get to meet people like him. Never misses to give a witty comeback at insults directed at him. Thumbs up man !

These arre my favourite atheist but for the ones I'll be bashing my head on forgetting to put on here forgive moi for I knew not what to do


As for my favourite theist is no other than pastor/mr olaade whatever (no offence with the name misspelling) - he's just an illogical and sometimes annoying with his post but hehehe, if he aint here then I guess this religious section will be dry.

The section is dead already!
Chilling in the valley of bone!

tpia6:
this picture don tey though.

how do i know this?

all the girls are tying scarf and nobody has on artificial weaves.

also, no tight dressing, exposed body, etc.

Fellowship that does this are still much around, likes of cacsa and dlcf..
They are always modest!

RAPTURE!!!
Cause I would have gone with the Lord!

Kk..
So, what's next?

Buzugee-->Obadiah777--->sukkot
MusKeeto-->Amanfrommars-->Muskeeto

e.tc..
I can't remember other weed smokers like that... Logicboy was their master..

benega:
I remember my past life too. They called me jack the ripper

Dlionsheart:
AND WHAT IF THIS STORY IS MADE UP?

HOW CAN YOU PREPARE THIS RICE WITHOUT SOURCE

it may test better if you add some sources, you know

He has been plagiarising since onset!

rationalmind:


Early/mid thirties

I even thought you are dead nii!!
Welcome from the grave?
How's nysc going?

Checking through the achieves!
Read and learn!

AlfaSeltzer:
ajibam, are you really a babe?

What if I am a babe?
What if am not?
That's your problem..
Don't derail the thread!

This is long but it will surely help you and open your eyes to modesty in dressing.. So, think twice before reading.. Don't complain about the longetivity of the post..

Are you modest?
Do you cause your brother or sister to stumble?
When you leave the house do you present yourself in a godly way?
Every single person reading just mentally
jumped to clothing, without me having to
mention appearance or apparel at all.

There is a reason for it, too modesty, particularly
female modesty, is one of the most bitter
and public arguments in American Christian
culture today—and it all revolves around our
skirts and our hair.

The exact percentage of
acceptable skin shown has been
ascertained, the lines marked out on thighs
and shoulders above which nothing may be
revealed and the materials of which jewelry
might be made has been parsed out.
As a young woman in the church, it seems the
only sermon or study ever directed towards
me specifically regards my power to make
men sin.But what about my sin?

Stumbling Blocks

"Therefore let us stop passing judgment on
one another. Instead, make up your mind
not to put any stumbling block or obstacle
in the way of a brother or sister." (Rom.
14:13, NIV)

There are dozens of pleas on the Internet, in
magazines and from pulpits from straight
men to the objects of their desire. They ask
women to cover up their bodies so that they
do not present a stumbling block for their
brothers in Christ.
This is a valid request.
It is not right to go to a brother who
struggles with lust and disrobe casually or
flirt sexually.
But these pleas go further:
they ask that women should guard against
prying eyes at all times, and they suggest
the endlessly detailed standards with which
we have all become familiar in the modern
church. In this way, without ever thinking it
of themselves, they put a stumbling block in
front of their sisters in Christ. That is also
not right.

If the weight of my testimony as a child of
God rests on my physical body, then I
become an object of sin. In this context, in
order to fully participate in the body of
Christ, I must turn inward and focus on my
physical self, creating a barrier between
myself and worship. The focus shifts away
from God and instead becomes vanity. It is
not only a matter of feeling blamed, or
being unwilling to alter my behavior to help
others. It is a matter of needing my walk
with Christ to be considered equal to that of
the men at my church.

Modest Is Hottest

Do me a favor and reflect on last Sunday.
Try to picture any of the young girls who
attended your church. Hair plaited back, a
skirt that goes to exactly mid-calf, a sterling
silver cross around her neck, glittery ballet
flats, plain and pinkish makeup. You can
probably call up the image quickly; I can
think of quite a few.
Now try and recollect a young man from
your parish.
This image is likely a lot less
clear and well-defined, but I imagine you
thought of a couple of young men in
pressed button-down shirts, then another
couple of young men in T-shirts and shorts.
Did one style of male dress resonate as
"immodest"? Probably not. But what about
"less appropriate for church"? Certainly,
many Christians would agree that one style
of male dress shows more respect for God
and His presence, a willingness to exercise
humility in presentation. This hits a lot
closer to what the Bible is calling us to
when it says "modesty."


"But the Lord said to Samuel, 'Do not look
on his appearance or on the height of his
stature, because I have rejected him. For the
Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on
the outward appearance, but the Lord looks
on the heart'" (1 Sam. 16:7, ESV).

In our haste to avoid the temptations of lust
and flee from sin, we Christians often do
two things. In the first place, we remove the
responsibility from the one committing the
sin (and forget the lust that women in the
church also feel—there are plenty of
immodestly dressed men in attendance any
given Sunday). In the second place, we
neglect the other aspects of modesty: the
modesty of spirit, the modesty of faith, the
modesty of giving, the modesty of prayer.
We cater our outward appearances to be
modest, but that is not solely what the Lord
is looking at, and it is not the metric by
which the Lord will judge.

Clothe Yourself in Grace

"Likewise, you who are younger, be subject
to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you,
with humility toward one another, for 'God
opposes the proud but gives grace to the
humble.' Humble yourselves, therefore, under
the mighty hand of God so that at the
proper time he may exalt you" (1 Pet.
5:5-6, ESV)..

In my research for this column, I was able to
find many resources for modest fashion,
including common guidelines and
arguments about stumbling blocks. But I wasn't able to find anything on modesty of
the spirit. However, when I searched for the
individual tenants of modesty—humility,
graciousness, meekness, a quiet spirit—I found a wealth of writing and apologetics
and speculation. The problem isn't that we
are unfamiliar with these points. It is that
we have shifted focus away from them,
severing their ties to modesty and therefore
how much time is spent on them at the
pulpit.

In 1 Peter 3 we are instructed (like in many
other places in the Bible) to not allow our
adornment to be outward, in jewelry and
braided hair and scandalous dress. But this
statement is followed in the same breath
with another: "[Adornment shall not be
outward] ... But let it be the hidden man of
the heart, in that which is not corruptible,
even the ornament of a meek and quiet
spirit ..." (KJV). It mirrors perhaps the most
beautiful description of what a righteous
human spirit can be: the Beatitudes, where
we are told exactly what godly modesty
entails.

Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted
because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
(Matt. 5:3-10, NIV)

In reading that our unclothedness is shameful
and our pride is sin, many of us stop there
and move no further. We seek only to cover
or root out the wrongful adornments and do
not seek to find the adornments that are
beautiful before God. In doing so, we miss
the beauty of sanctification. We are sinners,
but we are also God's children, and there
exists in us every capacity to be meek and
quiet and peaceable, hungering and
thirsting for righteousness. A modest spirit
is one of reliance on God in our struggles
and pains, and that is what I'd like to see
men and women of God crying out for in one
another.

http://www.charismamag.com/life/women/21666-what-christians-ignore-about-modesty

Apostle ayodele babalola wasn't the general overseer, he was simply an evangelist till his death.. His death was not the cause of cac crises!
And for your information, cac has no general overseer..
Get your fact right!

Dominionng:
Every Sunday!

tartar9:
but you are the ones that worship dolls.an ugly doll for that matter.

Lol,, who told you am a Catholic?
Jihadist!

Pray and fast for the flesh to be conquered, then stop doing things that can lead to self servicing like pornography, and sexual acts... That's all

Herbalist
Tags: AlfaSeltzer

Please help my dying friend

SalC:
Just like I get surprised when I see "blind supporters" of any of these states.

Okay.

Macelliot:

You dey funny oh!
Did You tagged them as individuals or u tagged them because they are catholics.

They know the reason naw

Every few years the debate over reforming
Islam bubbles up from the depths of a
culture that largely censors any suggestion
that Islam needs reforming.

But Islam does not exist apart from
Muslims. It is not an abstract entity that
can be changed without changing its
followers. And if Islam has not changed,
that is because Muslims do not want it to.

Mohammed and key figures in Islam
provided a template, but that template
would not endure if it did not fit the
worldview of its worshipers. Western
religions underwent a process of
secularization to align with what many saw
as modernity leading to a split between
traditionalists and secularists.
The proponents of modernizing Islam
assume that it didn't make the jump because
of Saudi money, fundamentalist violence
and regional backwardness. These
allegations are true, but also incomplete.

If modernizing Islam really appealed to
Muslims, it would have taken off, at least in
the West, despite Saudi money and Muslim
Brotherhood front groups. These elements
might have slowed things down, but a
political or religious idea that is genuinely
compelling is like a rock rolling down a
hill.

It's enormously difficult to stop.
Muslim modernization in the West has been
covertly undermined by the Saudis and the
Muslim Brotherhood, but for the most part
it has not been violently suppressed.
It suffers above all else from a lack of
Muslim interest.

Muslims don't spend much time fuming
over a progressive mosque that allows gay
members or lets women lead prayers. Such
places occasionally exist and remain
obscure. They don't have to be forcibly shut
down because they never actually take off.

The occasional death threat and arson
might take place and the average ISIS
recruit would happily slaughter everyone
inside, but even he has bigger fish to fry.

The best evidence that Muslim
modernization has failed is that even the
angriest Muslims don't take it very
seriously as a threat. The sorts of people
who believe that Saddam Hussein was a CIA
agent or that Israel is using eagles as spies
have trouble believing modernizing Islam
will ever be much of a problem.

They know instinctively that it will never
work. Instead Muslims are far more
threatened by a cartoon mocking their
prophet for reasons that go to the heart of
what is wrong with their religion.
Islam is not an idea.
It is a tribe.
Talking about reforming the words of Islam
is an abstraction. Islam did not begin with a
book. It began with clan and sword.

Even in
the modern skyscraper cities of the West, it
remains a religion of the clan and the
sword.
The left has misread Islamic terrorism as a
response to oppression when it is actually a
power base. It is not the poor and
downtrodden who are most attracted to the
Jihad. Instead it is the upper classes.
Bin
Laden wasn't a pauper and neither are the
Saudis or Qataris. Islamic terrorism isn't a
game for the poor. It becomes the thing to
do when you're rich enough to envy the
neighbors. It's a tribal war.
To reform Islam, we can't just look at what
is wrong with the Koran or the Hadiths. We
have to ask why these tribal calls for
violence and genocide, for oppression and
enslavement, appealed to Muslims then and
why they continue to appeal to Muslims today.
The modernizers assume that Western
Muslims would welcome a reformation of
Islam. They are half right. The reformation
that they are welcoming is that of the
Wahhabis trying to return it to what it was.
It's hard to deny that ISIS touches
something deep within Muslims.

The gay-friendly mosques don't.
Understanding Islam only in terms of the
Koran makes it seem as if Muslims are
unwillingly trapped by a tyranny of the
text, when the text is actually their means
of trapping others into affirming their
identity.

There is no reforming Islam without
reforming Muslims. The reformers assume
that most Muslims are ignorant of their
own beliefs, but even the most illiterate
Muslim in a village without running water
has a good grasp of the big overall ideas. He
may hardly be able to quote a Koranic verse
without stumbling over it, he may have
added local customs into the mix, but he
identifies with it on a visceral level.
Its honor is his honor. Its future is the
future of his family.

Its members are his kinfolk. Like him, it ought to have been on
top; instead it's on the bottom. Its
grievances are his grievances.
The rest is just details.
The progressive diverse mosque is the
opposite of this tribal mentality. It is the
opposite of Islam. Its destruction of the tribe
is also the destruction of the individual.
The Western Muslim who already has only a
shaky connection to the culture of his
ancestral country is not about to trade
Islamic tribalism for anonymous diversity.
Islam tells him he is superior.
The progressive mosque tells him nothing.
Whether he is a Bangladeshi peasant
watching soccer matches on the village
television or a Bangladeshi doctor in
London, it is the violent, racist and
misogynistic parts of Islam that provide him
with a sense of worth in a big confusing
world.

That is how Islam was born.
Islam began in uncertain times as empires
were tottering and the old ways were being
displaced by strange religions such as
Judaism and Christianity, when its
originators mashed bits of them together
and then founded their own crazy wobbly
murderous empire built around a badly
plagiarized religion.

It was horrible and terrible for everyone
who wasn't a Muslim man, but it worked.
Islam is less of a faith and more of a set of
honor and shame responses. It's a cycle of
oppression and victimhood. It's the
assertion of identity by people who see
themselves as inferior and are determined
to push back by making themselves
superior. The responses are familiar. We
saw it in Nazi Germany as the defeated
nation became a master race by killing and
enslaving everyone else.
But it's not those at the bottom most driven
by such dreams. It's the desert billionaires
who have money, but no culture. It's the
Western Muslim doctor who still feels
inferior despite his wealth. It's a merchant
named Mohammed with a lot of grudges
who claims an angel told him to kill all his
enemies in Allah's name.
It's Islam. And it's Muslims.

The things that we believe, bad or good,
reflect the bad or good inside us. When
Muslims support killing people, it's
simplistic to assume that they are
robotically following a text and will follow
any other text slipped in front of their faces,
instead of their passions and values.
Religions may make people kill, but it starts
when people make religions kill.
The good devout Muslim may kill because
the Koran tells him to, but he would not do
so if the Koran's justifications of violence
did not speak to him on a deeper level. The
Nazis were following orders, but they
wouldn't have followed them if Nazism
didn't connect with their fears, hopes and
dreams.

The text is only half the problem. The other
half is in the human heart.
Reforming Islam is not a matter of crossing
out certain words and adding others.
Religions carry a powerful set of values that
appeal to people on a deep level. To change Islam, we would have to understand why its ugliness still speaks to Muslims. To
change it, we have to change them.
When we talk about reforming Islam, what we are really talking about is reforming
Muslims.

www.raptureforums.com/FeaturedCommentary/youcantreformislamwithoutreformingmuslims.cfm?utm_source=ExpressPigeon&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Rapture+Forums+Newsletter+10%2F25%2F2014

Macelliot:
Ajibam
What an interesting story....
I read everything about Pilgrim1's conversion....
Seun eventually locked the thread ...
One could only read, but can't comment.

Yes bro..

sukkot:


hebrews 11 vs 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

rev 22 vs 14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

isaiah 61 vs 6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

haggai 2 vs 7-9 And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the Lord of hosts.
The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts.The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the Lord of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the Lord of hosts.

Okay..