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FrontPageLawyer:
Mention all previous refusals UK, US or Schengen. This question does not have any negative effect on the outcome of your application, it is a credibility test because they have the records whether mentioned or not.

Reasons for refusals should be short and precise; "financial ties"

@FrontPageLawyer

Many thanks for all your answers and efforts.
i appreciate it very much.

FrontPageLawyer:
You must mention all previous refusals in your future application. The consequences of withholding such sensitive information is a 10 years ban.

@FrontPageLawyer

yes i know i should mention all the previous refusals in question No.29 in the application
29) HAVE YOU BEEN REFUSED A VISA FOR ANY COUNTRY INCLUDING THE UK IN THE LAST 10 YEARS?
i know i should write (Yes - UK - Date - Visa Type - Reason) and mention the two dates and the type of the visa.

my question is: what should i write in the reason cell (especially for the refusal related to the large deposit)?
also, should i attached any covering letter and comment for this two refusals? if so, what is the best idea i should use to cover this refusal?

zoomzu:
@ Poster, To begin with,

1. Who is sponsoring the training?

a. If all expenses is going to be paid for by your organaisation, your account balance does not count, so you needed not to bother about your account balance but an evidence that the company pays your salary into that account every month. Tha's your link with the organisation with relavant cover letters from the organisation and payment for the training etc.

b. If you are the one paying for the conference, you need to block all the loop holes by avoiding huge deposit and make all necessary payments.

2. Build your account and re-apply.

3. Good luck.

@Zoomzu
thanks for your reply, but although my organization will sponsor my trip and its stated in the papers and i submitted my bank statement summary beside the HR letter showing my salary, the ECO asked for a detailed bank statement and it is one of the reasons of the first refusal.

regarding to re-apply, it is related to any future chance for training in UK from my organisation and in the same time i will organise my account as you suggest.

my concern is: if they will refuse any future application from my side because of the previous two refusal even i submitted all the papers right.
and also, should i mention any comment regarding to the reason of the second refusal (previous large deposit) or i should let it go?

FrontPageLawyer:
Visas are approved even after 10 refusals as long as it is not a ban.

You were refused because you intentionally lodged money into your account prior to visa application. It is inconsequential whether the lodgement was for the visa application or not, but for the ECO, the act was done for you to secure a visa.

If the above is the case, then you are not on a ban and can be granted visa in your next application if you adhere to instruction, but if you've used fraudulent documents or wilful misrepresentation, then you should be afraid of future applications.

Wait until after the lodgement won't show in your six months statement of account; maintain a healthy account. Separate your salary account from other business accounts, your closing balance doesn't determine the outcome of your visa, there are other factors that are put into consideration e.g employment ties, family ties etc. $2.1B won't secure you even a 6months visa if the source of income is unknown.

@FrontPageLawyer,

thank you for your valuable advise.
yes, i confirm all my documents are correct and real.

but my concern is:
1- should i submit any comment for the previous 2 refusals or i just let it go?
2- will they review the reasons of those 2 refusal during the assessment of the next one on their records and consider the reasons them again? or the fresh application will be treated by its own merits and its own supporting docs?

i know i ask many questions but i appreciate your patience.

FrontPageLawyer:
Long story short, you were found guilty of money lodgement. Because of your action, it is advisable you wait for another 6 months before you re-apply to give way for the lodgement in your account.

Ensure that the purpose of your trip to the UK is plausible and comprehensible.

If your company is genuinely sending you to the UK for a training, why are they not sponsoring the trip? It makes sense

@FrontPageLawyer,
Yes, they already did sponsored my trip and it is mentioned in my application, and there is no comment from the ECO related to this point because it was clear to him.

Yes, i know i made a big mistake, but is that the end of the story?

kindly advise me, if i wait for any future chance like this and i submitted all the right papers next time. is that will be fine?
or i am now in a black list and they always will look for the previous 2 refusal?

what should i do and you can advise me in the future application? should i present any comments for the previous refusals or not?

do you ever heard about any example have a visa granted after two refusals?

your thoughts.

Good day everybody,

i am new in this forum but i was attracted to it because i noticed that there is many guys who have a good understanding in the travel issues. i hope some one can advise me in my issue.

I work in an Egyptian branch in Egypt for an English company in UK.

The company asked me to apply for a UK business visit visa to UK to train me for a new product.

I have some friends in the same company who traveled before for the same reason (training) advised me to submit an HR letter and bank statement summary beside the invitation letter from the company and borrow some money to make the bank statement summary look better (big mistake i realized it later) but they done it before and worked with them.

so i followed their advise. and i applied for the visa

i received a refusal note (the first) because of :

The clearance officer wants to see the salary transactions in my account and my marriage evidence (my Ties to Egypt).

so, i applied again and submitted the bank statement in details with my salary transactions and my marriage evidence and my house papers.

and i have applied again.

i received a refusal note (the second) because of :

the large deposit prior of my application.

Now i should payback this deposit to its owner again.
Now, i have two refusal because of my ignorance but they will think i am dishonest, what should i do?
Now i missed the current training chance.
but it will be some more in the future and it is good for my career and experience.

shall i forget it?
shall I wait for the next training chance and submit a fresh bank statement (depend on my salary only with regular transactions) with a fresh application or it will be a waste of time?

will they treat the third application with its merits or they will consider the previous refusal reasons and will ask for the origin of the large deposit again (it will not exist in the third application)?
and if i applied again shall i mention any reason for this deposit or not?

any help or advise will be very appreciated.

FrontPageLawyer:
https://www.nairaland.com/2655931/general-uk-visa-enquiries-part

Dear FrontPageLawyer, thanks for your guidance i will post it there.

Good day everybody,

i am new in this forum but i was attracted to it because i noticed that there is many guys who have a good understanding in the travel issues. i hope some one can advise me in my issue.

I work in an Egyptian branch in Egypt for an English company in UK.

The company asked me to apply for a UK business visit visa to UK to train me for a new product.

I have some friends in the same company who traveled before for the same reason (training) advised me to submit an HR letter and bank statement summary beside the invitation letter from the company and borrow some money to make the bank statement summary look better (big mistake i realized it later) but they done it before and worked with them.

so i followed their advise. and i applied for the visa

i received a refusal note (the first) because of :

The clearance officer wants to see the salary transactions in my account and my marriage evidence (my Ties to Egypt).

so, i applied again and submitted the bank statement in details with my salary transactions and my marriage evidence and my house papers.

and i have applied again.

i received a refusal note (the second) because of :

the large deposit prior of my application.

Now i should payback this deposit to its owner again.
Now, i have two refusal because of my ignorance but they will think i am dishonest, what should i do?
Now i missed the current training chance.
but it will be some more in the future and it is good for my career and experience.

shall i forget it?
shall I wait for the next training chance and submit a fresh bank statement (depend on my salary only with regular transactions) with a fresh application or it will be a waste of time?

will they treat the third application with its merits or they will consider the previous refusal reasons and will ask for the origin of the large deposit again (it will not exist in the third application)?
and if i applied again shall i mention any reason for this deposit or not?

any help or advise will be very appreciated.