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EgunMogaji:
Corruption is woven deep into the fabric of society.

I discussed this issue with one of my associates and he said that it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the difference paid between agreed price and new inflated price will be absorbed by frontline staff. Ileya will soon come.

It’s not that I’m making excuse for the corrupt system but it’s easy for some disgruntled crayola regurgitating fool to not realize that not everyone is cut out to wage legal hand to hand combat with an international conglomerate.

Your duty first and foremost is survivability of your business. I know it’s mine. It’s not to go half cocked on some pipe dream lawsuit where damage can’t be established.

Do you folks have a “right to refuse service” business clause in Nigeria?

Lol, I have no idea what that means

EgunMogaji:
@AllCopacetic and others.

I want one of those all in one unit solar street lamps and my stockist doesn’t have.

Do you guys per chance sell or know where I can get? Maybe in Ibadan.

Muy Gracias Senors.

Sorry we don't have those Sir.
But will ask around and feedback

mufutau55:
@allCopacetic
Allco.. you have to tell your customers to start feeding you pics of their installations so that we novice can emulate the installation pattern.
Thanks.

Hajji M.

Lol, Oga mi everybody wants privacy ni o.

I'll post when the opportunity presents itself

EgunMogaji:
I see both sides of the issue, I really do.

As a business owner too I understand this is wher signed contracts come into play.

Is there a clause in there somewhere that says

“Seller retains the right to adjust price on merchandise that hasn’t been loaded”

We don’t know because we haven’t seen the contract.

Maybe they haven’t bagged the cement yet and the price took effect at a certain timeframe.

Chekitaut, na beg I beg you Sir post the sales contract

Smh,
its just so crazy how everything has to be so difficult, and so darned different with us.

Who we offend

Flaghouse1:
Your narrative above should apply in sane business environment and companies that have intergrity entrenched in their mission statement . What we have these days are companies that would rather impoverish their franchisee in periods of price arbitrage and when sales are going south they force their product on you when competition are selling at a lower price and expect you tell at prices slightly higher than competition .

Sad,
as always it comes down to the system. " Sane bussiness environment"

Dominionng:
Just as you instructed sir.

Lol, Fantastic Stuff Sir, outstanding work.

Thanks for the Kind referral. He called to confirm he was delighted with the fittings.

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sako28:
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EgunMogaji:
Goo dmove I think.

Dantoge doesn't have a monopoly and we should always exercise free trade with our money.

If I may ask, what are you going to sue for? What were your damages?

Trying to learn.

Please don't use too much big English I beg when you explain, I'm just a humble boy from one kind Ibadan village

Very true Chief @ the Bolded. But they seem to have a Monopolistic influence on what is supposedly a free Market and this is very bad for the industry and consumers. What else would give them the gals to implement such bad bussiness policy.
I would like to think that once you make payment for goods and you're issued a receipt then it is binding on the company to provide you the goods you were issued a receipt for.
Unless the T& C indicate that they have the right to withdraw thier offer at any time or effect a price change without prior notice, which I seriously doubt.

During the Dollar-nightmare regime , COLEMAN would always pass a circular to distributors on intended price increase to allow us stock up on Cables to the extent of available stock and up to an effective date. This would minimize losses on the distributors side ( because you would otherwise have to replace stock at a higher cost than your selling price) and also help buffer the price increase shock on the market.

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Conduiting Problems that can arise from Bad Labour:

inaccurate Leveling & Spacing of knockout boxes…
Pic 1 below shows the arrangement of two switches from the same installation I earlier spoke about. The shoddy job done during the piping has resulted in a very unprofessional and unappealing appearance of these nice switches . Fixing this would require the odious task of cracking the plastering and removing the box for adjustment.

Wrong Location of Knockout or lighting points:
This mostly happens when there is no drawing and the electrician is unskilled. Knockout boxes for switches could be mounted on the wrong side of the door; lighting boxes for lights could be mounted in offcentre or inconvenient positions.you enter some apartments and the layout of the powerpoints and lighting points is a disaster.
Pic 2 examplifies the above point.
shows lighting point 1 which should be for a fan, but is positioned too close to a wall and too far away from the fan hook. The position of all three lighting points relative to eachother is also a disaster. To successfully mount a fan on the hook would require running the wire along a surface trail form the ceiling rose (lighting point 1) to the location of the hook, which is very untidy. It also means that you cannot have a chandelier or any form of suspended light at the centre (lighting point 2) if you decide to mount a fan on the hook. Classic example of how poor workmanship or lack of planning during conduiting can present challenges later on.

Poorly Planned Piping Network:
This can result in clutter inside your distribution board, aswell as Increase the amount of cable you will require for the job

Recommendations:
-Choose your electrical contractor based on ‘’verified” quality of work rather than Low labour cost.
-Get an Electrical Drawing If you can afford one, Otherwise pay great attention to detail during the execution of your job

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jadell:
Not for small boys! Make I go my corner.

Lol, Na lie boss, you're above and beyond.

allCopacetic:
Dozen or so ke? You're mistaken Boss. We have only about 20 or so cable manufactureres nationwide and the bulk of them are located in the West.
Cutix , Geoelis, Scan and one other brand I cannot remember right now are the only cable manufactures in the east to the best of my knowledge. Most of the others you see Like CDivine and co are imported, even tho they are branded "Nigeria Wire" , they have no manufacturing plant here.

Market penetration of the eastern brands is not as high as it should be, Considering the small number of manufacturers relative to the large market there. Most sellers prefer to stock the cheaper imported brands that give them higher turnovers . For every coil of local brand sold, there's probably ten times more of the imported alternative sold.

You're very right about COLEMAN not being so popluar there, the eastern brands are still managing to gain grounds.

However, There are requirements for which COLEMAN is the only local option.
For instance COLEMAN is currently the only local brand that manufactures:
-RG - 5/6 Coaxial Cables (TV wire)
-CAT 5/6/6e Cables ,
-Marine Cables,
-And the first to manufacture XLPE high voltage cables in West Africa. (Currently not being done by any other company in Nigeria)
Plus a number of other speciality cables.

They are the largest Cable Manufactuter in West Africa both Volume & Variety wise.

Finally remembered the fourth Eastern Manufacturer.....VECAN cables (Onitsha).

I was actually wrong about having up to twenty local cable manfacturers. To the best of my knowledge and from available directories there are only 16 Cable Manufacturing companies Nationwide,

West:
COLEMAN
Nigerchin
Nexans KabelMetal
MicCom
Comet star
Purechem
Nigeria Wire & Cable
BRACON
BERLIAC

East:
CUTIX
Geoelis
SCAN
Vecan

North:
NOCACO
ALIND
KLYSAT

Any brands outside of these are imported.

Please add if I left any out.

jadell:
This is lovely. Please what's the price of this?

N300k Sir

bixton:
Black is beautiful.

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Commonsense101:
chai, na big man soup be this oo
mr copacetic you want us to declare bankrupcty on account of you abiiii

Lol, at all Sir.
Na small small money.

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Rust…
-Rust is an inevitable part of using metal knockout boxes in many parts of Nigeria. This is because most of these locally available boxes are not completely galvanized. They just have a very thin coating. So over time the inevitable happens …. The buried boxes start to rust. If you have used metal knockout boxes in the past 5 yrs , go back and check them,you’ll already see some signs of rust. Once the rust spreads over time, mounting and un-mounting accessories can be a challenge.

Recommendations:
Always go for a decent quality of lighting boxes and knockout boxes, the cost difference isn’t substantial and that choice can save you a lot of headache and money in the future.
Avoid light guage pipes ,the headache and wastage they give is not worth the little savings they might offer.
Always Always Always choose pvc knockout boxes over the metal type, especially for projects situated along the coastline or water logged areas. They offer more advantage than metal boxes (no rust risk, adjustable screw hole, better aesthetics , greater ease of mounting and unmounting installed accessories …the list goes on). I cant phatom why people still use galvanized boxes in this age and time. When pvc boxes cost just a little more. Its like opting for galvanized pipes over pvc pipes. Metal knockout boxes offer absolutely NO advantages over good quality pvc knockouts. That’s why you don’t see big engineering /construction companies use metal knockouts. they’re very dated.

As a side note avoid pvc knockouts that have an adjustment like the below (circled) in pic 1 and 2 they are sub par options. go instead for the type pictured in the third image.

pic 3 shows two different grades having the same type of adjustment. the one on the top being the higher quality is slightly larger and subtly better finish that might not be visible in pictures. the one at the bottom is a good replica of that.

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Problems that will often cost more to fix than it would have originally cost to do it right in the first place

Conduiting Problems that can arise from Low quality Material:


-Blockage (mostly due to poor quality pipes)…. This can occur when the pipes crack, puncture or compress as a result of the light guage ( particularly those buried in the decking). This will lead to difficulty in fishing cables through the channel when the time comes to run the wiring. Some blockages can be so serious as to require chiselling through an already cured deck just to replace the damaged section.

-unsecure mount of fixtures and accessories :
This will arise from using substandard knockout boxes and lighting boxes that have poor quality screw holes. Knockout boxes are the boxes buried in the walls for mounting the sockets and switches, while lighting boxes are those buried for mounting lighting fixtures and other such things. Both can be made from galvanized metal or pvc, with pvc being the far better choice.
If the quality of lighting box or knockout boxes is poor, sockets and switches start pulling out of the wall and lighting fixtures can hang loose or fall off. In the case of the metal boxes the screw holes can expand, making it impossible for the screws to stay secure. While for pvc knockout boxes the part holding the screw holes often break off, rendering the buried box useless.
The below picture is from a shoddy conduiting job, with substandard materials that had been procured by the electrician . few months after the installation, some of the sockets started pulling out from the wall because the mounting hole on the metal knockout box expanded and the screws were going right through the hole instead of threading to it. Replacing the screw with a bigger screw only gave a short reprieve because the hole expanded again over time. The only alternative was to chisel the box out and replace, hold with cement again, then paint…. or just leave it hanging precariously. This could all have been avoided by getting the right quality from the onset.