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benzics:
I don't have "faith" cuz that's ignorance at it's peak.

And religion brought the idea of God, do you ever read??

[b] "In ancient times, religion was indistinguishable from what is known as `mythology' in the present day and consisted of regular rituals based on a belief in higher supernatural entities who created and continued to maintain the world and surrounding cosmos. Theses entities were anthropomorphic and behaved in ways which mirrored the values of the culture closely (as in Egypt) or sometimes engaged in acts antithetical to those values (as one sees with the gods of Greece). Religion, then and now, concerns itself with the spiritual aspect of the human condition, gods and goddesses (or a single personal god or goddess), the creation of the world, a human being’s place in the world, life after death, eternity, and how to escape from suffering in this world or in the next; and every nation has created its own god in its own image and resemblance. The Greek philosopher Xenophanes of Colophon (c. 570-478 BCE) once wrote:

[color=maroon] Mortals suppose that the gods are born and have clothes and voices and shapes like their own. But if oxen, horses and lions had hands or could paint with their hands and fashion works as men do, horses would paint horse-like images of gods and oxen oxen-like ones, and each would fashion bodies like their own. The Ethiopians consider the gods flat-nosed and black; the Thracians blue-eyed and red-haired.[/color]
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Humans have basically imagined gods through out history and have got some kind of book written about these gods.. so when you tell me there is God I don't take you serious, but just know that the flying spaghetti monster is real, if only you can prove that's FSM is not real

faith is ignorance at it's peak?? I am done.

but wait, can you prove to me that the copy and paste you did here is true and reliable?

anybody can just write anything stupid as this and kids like you who are gullible of knowing the real thing would swallow them up.

have you researched what he said and found it to be true?

4everGod:
Every single atheist who graced this thread suddenly went unscientific and all began to shy away from using science to disprove the OP. Is there no atheist brave enough to attempt a detailed demolishing of the OP or are they all as cowardly as i thought and full of nothing but BS and red herrings and continuous acts of deception?

I dare any of them to disprove the OP with science same way the OP has disproved evolution with the same science. If evolution is true then disprove the OP.

they got nothing, they are now anti-evolution I guess.

Lenycool cloudgoddess Johnny... where are you?

your effort is needed here please.

4everGod:
Shut your mouth dia. Every scientist says the dating methods are not perfect but close to it and you alone are saying thay have been repeatedly proven to be constant. Do you even know why i used the water analogy? Its because water being difficult is akin to the billions of years man claims the universe is when they never witnessed the very first occurrence but only assume.

I believe 4kings can school you better as i doubt if you know a jot about science.

Can you disprove the OP?

I don't think he can.

4everGod:
Shut your mouth! Is there any part of the OP you even weakly attempted? You lot claim to be intelligent but when real intelligence confronts you, you all start throwing red herrings everywhere.

his aim is to derail the thread while I think we are helping him achieve it.

randomperson:
That's not true... Got banned last week, but why let objectivity get in the way of your preferred narrative? It's the same idea that fuels Christianity

may be you have to go through this thread to understand little of what I meant.

https://www.nairaland.com/3485930/exposing-hardmirror-tale-two-mirrors#51367525

randomperson:
Well... That's convenient, isn't it... God created the first man but nobody created god...
An idea just came to me now... How do u know that the god u worship is not just like a governor or representative. That there is another being who commissioned him to create the earth and give the law

you are yet to understand the difference between GOD and Yahweh for Christians.

benzics:
I just have to exclaim.

"JESUUU!!! ".....

So penguins migrated to enter an ark because they knew they would go extinct if they don't? Chai
And they even knew where the ark was located and just two opposite sex migrated and not the whole group?
Migration Kwa!!!

please point where this claim was made.

you seem to fake up a lie, disprove the lies you faked up and call yourself a genius.

get well soon.

Anas09:
4everGod, what did you do? All these atheists are denying Science all of sudden.

lol

randomperson:
Exposed?? The claims of the bible are neither evidence or proof. The idea that man was created by god is as credible as the idea of the earth bring created by oduduwa... I don't need to prove the non- existence of a fact by bringing positive arguments or evidence. I only need to show that the claims of the bible have not been confirmed and are not sufficient proof of creation...
That's how it works in a court of law BTW

you guys are simply missing out something about God.

I would have asked you to open a thread on that, so we can have a very intelligent discussion over this GOD topic. But just time.

DoctorAlien:
Guess what I do for fun/when I'm less busy? Scaring these "atheists" with real logic/poking holes in their "intellectual" arguments. I was actually amused when he replied me "I don't know for sure." He is no longer sure. But he sounded sure when he said "every human is as a result of reproduction."

lol

that's the way most of them behave.

randomperson:
So when a boy asks you, who created god... What would you say?

still asking this question of who created God??
something must be wrong with your head.

KingEbukasBlog:
This is a called a red herring . Please provide a germane response to his request .

lol

DoctorAlien:
So, according to your logic:
1. Plants kill people. Therefore there is no GOD.
2. Worms eat the eyes of human beings. Therefore there is no GOD.
3. Natural disaster exists. Therefore there is no GOD.
4. People die from winter's frostbite and stroke. Therefore there is no GOD.
Very logical arguments. Conclusive proofs that there is no GOD. Wow!

that's it.

randomperson:
Nature is not evidence of god... If anything, it's evidence that there is no god... There are plants that kill people, there is a worm whose lifespan is only to eat the eyes of human beings, there are NATURAL disasters... People die from winter's frostbite and summer's heatstroke...
U cannot ascribe the beauty of nature to god whilst ignoring it's ugliness

this delusion is getting worse. You are simply misinformed.

I am just tired today.

randomperson:
The onus of proof is on you... .

that's the usual anthem.

DoctorAlien:
Just a little(very very very little) dose of critical thinking will cure this case of acute ignorance:

I am telling you

4everGod:
Why the vitriol? Get a grip and fight or die like a man. You are being encouraged to fight even though you not only beat yourself silly with your own arguments but you also got owned repeatedly by Deepsight While your atheist crew kept cheering you on to your death.

https://img.ifcdn.com/images/e80e0a2826cfd00e9db1c65dd125a7f9bf43caf1ac6669a1bbe551b24d9e6887_1.gif

that's what hopefullandlord aka CAPSLOCKED pastafarian FSMs is doing to him.

benzics:
Lol, I hate arguing with people with beliefs, because clearly they are lacking at some point in life..

Whatever we don't understand, religious people open their dirty mouths and say "it is god", it is not god you dumb f.ucks! It is what we don't understand yet!!!

how again did you arrive at this conclusion?

hopefulLandlord:
its funny how theists usually pull the Thomas Aquinas argument which in summary is simply using logic of "something must create something" but Aquinas then abandons the logic when it gets to his version of god

its using law of infinite regress, regressing it further and further, then using "god" (whatever version) to terminate the regress

NB: don't be intimidated by these people's memes and jibes

what else do you have to offer, other than baseless argument??

cheer him up!

benzics:
Now go back and read my illustration of the possibility of a God using marbles...

There is currently no God man knows of! You believe in your god because your religious books told you about him, if you had no access to people who were religious, like living like Mowgley in the "jungle book" movie, who lived with animals, I am 100% certain you won't think of the possibility of a God. .

And someone was busy claiming that even if he lived in a jungle, he would still ask "how did the world come about", when the dumbass have never asked "how did God come about", he just believes that God is eternal and my question is.

have you also been outside the universe to discover that there is God? And how the hell did you know god always existed? Did God tell you this himself? Or did man tell you?

When you start questioning yourself, then I think we'd have a better convo.

would you mind telling me how you came to this conclusion?

I would be happy to hear about your research which made you to conclude such.

hopefulLandlord:
haven't you noticed most atheists ignore that guy? wouldn't be too bad an idea for you to do the same

seems like you are done with screaming FSM all over the forum.

I hate this delusion of atheists ignoring, I have never discovered such, because it is as useless as meaningless. it is not a thing. definitely not.

I am not here to masturbate your delusion with you but to slam every bit of it.

And when I slam your delusion, the best thing I normally expect is that you never quote me, so that I can focus on some other delusions. I am a busy guy. no time.

so, if you are getting pained, it is definitely not my business. I don't share your delusion with you.

just expect me anytime any day. I don't spare.

Now, stay mute

benzics:
Read about the religion that existed years before Christianity
http://www.ancient.eu/religion/

Before this religion, people didn't believe in Gods and I don't think I even have the time to start talking about the origin of religion!

This religion never torment people, or abuse little children with the idea of hell, this religion is in fact of your free will.. . But you dumb Christians/Muslims that came years after Hinduism are now telling us your religion is the true religion? Telling us we must follow your religions to be saved? And you still ask why we attack mainly Christianity and Islam?

let me get it straight.

do you lack faith in religion or in God?

you seem to be confused.

Anas09:
benzics
AyeHateGod
HopefulLandlord.
Why can't you boys try doing what 4kings is doing here?

benzics, from the beginning of this thread, you have never touched one single point in the Op. What is so difficult in the Op?

Where is hahn?

I guess Hahn saw the fire coming and he hid.

Anas09:
Insult alert.
Cc.Seun. hammer.

hahahaha
it is like telling buhari to hammer Amaechi.
lol

benzics:
Lol, do you know there were generations before religion? None of these people thought of a God until some smart ass con dude invented the idea to make money, and here the future generation really uphold to God as if he's real

this guy.....

I am short of words.

immature conclusions. ignorance and delusion.

Anas09:
O yeah. He is an atheist sir. No matter how dumb someone is, immidiately he declares for atheism, his IQ jupms to the highest level. Didnt we see one who testified of this fact here?

Atheism upgrades the intellects, so, yes Smart.

lol

Anas09:
And Seun?

you know the answer naaah

EyeHateGod:
Are you this desperate?

desperate for what??

KingEbukasBlog:
Please don't insult my program with this . Please just stop

I just taya....
maybe he thinks he is the only programmer in the thread. LMAO!

DeepSight:
What you are referring to is the problem of an infinite regress. An infinite regress is existentially illogical and it is with sure and sound logic that we assert that there must exist a permanent and eternal something which is what we call God.

In basic logic, these would be the premises for my saying so.

Premise One: The Universe is something, and exists

Premise two: Something cannot emerge from nothing.

First Inferment The universe thus emerged from something pre existing

Second Inferment: Thus for anything to exist: there must have always been something already in existence

Conclusion: It is rational to see thus, that for anything to exist, there must exist a permanent something.

The nature of that permanent something is what you should discuss.

Now, say to you that there are necessary or self-existent things: things which exist by default and do not require creation.
This very fact alone, resolves the problem of an infinite regress: for there needs be no infinite regress once we recognize the existence of self existent things - and this cannot logically be denied.

Here are a few examples of self existent things:

1. Eternity
2. Infinite Space

Now let me pause here and see if this makes any sense to you before we build our thought development further.

good tutorial for him!

DeepSight:
What you are referring to is the problem of an infinite regress. An infinite regress is existentially illogical and it is with sure and sound logic that we assert that there must exist a permanent and eternal something which is what we call God.

In basic logic, these would be the premises for my saying so.

Premise One: The Universe is something, and exists

Premise two: Something cannot emerge from nothing.

First Inferment The universe thus emerged from something pre existing

Second Inferment: Thus for anything to exist: there must have always been something already in existence

Conclusion: It is rational to see thus, that for anything to exist, there must exist a permanent something.

The nature of that permanent something is what you should discuss.

Now, say to you that there are necessary or self-existent things: things which exist by default and do not require creation.
This very fact alone, resolves the problem of an infinite regress: for there needs be no infinite regress once we recognize the existence of self existent things - and this cannot logically be denied.

Here are a few examples of self existent things:

1. Eternity
2. Infinite Space

Now let me pause here and see if this makes any sense to you before we build our thought development further.

good tutorial for him!

Anas09:
Where are all the atheists? Why have they left this kid to destroy himself by himself?

LMAO


most of them are now hiding under agnosticism.