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OLAADEGBU:
This is one of the reasons the world does not take the church serious.

Did the World take the Lord Serious while He was here in the Flesh?

The Church was not instituted for the world to take it seriously. The World will never take the Church seriously because the Church and the world are parallel in everything they stand for.

The World picked stones just like you are doing now to kill someone, The Lord forgave her.
Thats the difference between the Lord and rhe World.
Unforgiveness is a grave sin Olaadegbu

OLAADEGBU:
I hope such churches that permit those adulterers in their pulpits do not recover after this pandemic.

Wow. Just wow.

OLAADEGBU:
Why would it be damaging? Allowing adulterous Pastors running rampage in the church is what is damaging and is contrary to God's design.

I thought you said he is repentant and has served his suspension? Isn't that the case with that pastor?
Ia he walking around like nothing happened?

OLAADEGBU:
Knowing fully well that the Pastor has been reinstated by the church, will you personally sit under the ministration of a pastor who was caught committing adultery?

Yes.
Wld you say if the Lord beams his light towards you right now, he won't find a spot of sin? Aren't you still preaching?

OLAADEGBU:
Will you accept a pastor over you who was 'caught in the act' either with your wife or your daughter, even if he has repented and has been reinstated?

What did Jesus do to the woman caught in the Act sir? Or do you consider the salvation of the pastor more real than the woman the Lord forgave?

khia:
Who is Jesus?

Never mind

OLAADEGBU:
Where is your alter ego BudaAtum?

Budaatum is not Otem

OLAADEGBU:
https://www.christianpost.com/news/should-pastors-caught-in-adultery-be-permanently-banned-from-ministry-john-piper-answers.html

He said 'a disqualified Pastor'.
Disqualified Pastor? Who disqualified him? Did Jesus disqualify him?
Why the hell.did I just read?
The writer of this article is malicious, selfrighteous and unforgiving.
If Jesus treats us this way, none of us will stand today.

He talks about Adultery as though adultery as not as damning as pride (which by the way is loaded in this article).
Adultery is seen when it is committed, who sees Pride, Malice and unforgiveness?

If someone falls and repents, that's it. Na you call am into ministry to determine when he leaves?

khia:
There are no bitterness and anger in his words. He sounds like a man who is enlightened to the truth and want to help others to open their hearts and eyes to knowledge.

What is the Truth?

khia:
Jesus?

Yes, Jesus. If he were from Ghana wld you just Trust and obey Him instead of all the noise here?

coputa:
nigeria has the largest numbers of churches in the world and the richest pastors,but she harbours 43% of the poorest people in the world.use your brain.

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So, we shd leave the churches and follow you to your native doctors shrine Okwaya?

Vision202:
I would like to seek opinion of others on what to do about this issue.

It happened some weeks ago when my wife's sister (younger sister) came to me that she just downloaded a movie (The train) that it will be nice for us to watch it.

So she gave me her phone which I connected to my laptop so as to copy and transfer to my flash drive and later to connect to the TV to have a bigger screen view.

She told me the title of the movie which I searched for and I told her I didn't see it.

Immediately she wasn't feeling comfortable and she came and stood behind me as we searched for the movie together.

So I asked where she downloaded the movie from she told me vidmate so I went to download files under vidmate.
When it opened there were a lot of movies there as a looked for the move I saw some porn movies along the files. I had to focused on the movie we were looking for and pretended as if I didn't see anything, I copied the said movie and pasted it on the desktop. After, she quickly removed the USB cord and took her phone.

What baffled me was that I never expected such thing from her, because I knew her to be a good girl and a lover of Christ. I was disappointed and embarrassed, she felt embarrassed too and she wasn't feeling comfortable throughout that night.

She should have at least deleted those porns before handling over her phone to me.

Why do ladies watch porn? What will she gain watching it because I don't think she engages in sex.

I never mentioned it to anyone and we relates as if nothing happened. We even watched the movie together with my wife the following day.

My concern now is hope I have done the right thing? Or I should have advised her that watching porn is not good?

The bible says anyone who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins.

Also there is this quote I saw somewhere the world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people, but because of the silence of good people.

Note: She is an adult, just graduated from the university.

Thanks as I await your response.

As, a Christian, Nairaland is the worst place to seek for Christian counsel.
Satan lives here. Ask the Holy Spirit if He will tell you that the girl is an adult.

She is an adult to drink whatever she wants, if she attempts to kill herself with poison, wld you keep quiet or come here to ask if you shd intervene?

Christians grow up and stop seeking counsel from unbelievers, unbelievers shd come to you not you to them.

Vision202:
I would like to seek opinion of others on what to do about this issue.

It happened some weeks ago when my wife's sister (younger sister) came to me that she just downloaded a movie (The train) that it will be nice for us to watch it.

So she gave me her phone which I connected to my laptop so as to copy and transfer to my flash drive and later to connect to the TV to have a bigger screen view.

She told me the title of the movie which I searched for and I told her I didn't see it.

Immediately she wasn't feeling comfortable and she came and stood behind me as we searched for the movie together.

So I asked where she downloaded the movie from she told me vidmate so I went to download files under vidmate.
When it opened there were a lot of movies there as a looked for the move I saw some porn movies along the files. I had to focused on the movie we were looking for and pretended as if I didn't see anything, I copied the said movie and pasted it on the desktop. After, she quickly removed the USB cord and took her phone.

What baffled me was that I never expected such thing from her, because I knew her to be a good girl and a lover of Christ. I was disappointed and embarrassed, she felt embarrassed too and she wasn't feeling comfortable throughout that night.

She should have at least deleted those porns before handling over her phone to me.

Why do ladies watch porn? What will she gain watching it because I don't think she engages in sex.

I never mentioned it to anyone and we relates as if nothing happened. We even watched the movie together with my wife the following day.

My concern now is hope I have done the right thing? Or I should have advised her that watching porn is not good?

The bible says anyone who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins.

Also there is this quote I saw somewhere the world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people, but because of the silence of good people.

Note: She is an adult, just graduated from the university.

Thanks as I await your response.

Pls ask yourself this. If you stand before Jesus today and this issue is raised, what wld you say or do?
Whatever answer you believe you wld give to the Master is your answer. That girl is under your care.

Davash222:
There's nothing wrong with an adult watching porn. Porn is for adults.

As the same thing as saying there's nothing wrong for an adult to have sex with someone they are not married to, or consult an idol.

The OP mentioned that the girl is a Christian so that matters.

khia:
Of course, because it identifies the true Messiah from the false.

So, if Jesus were from Ghana wld it make a difference to you?

donnie:
I owe you no answers my friend. YAHS's sheep will hear his voice and flee from false religions like Christianity and the so-called churches, for they've been marked for judgment. Of what use is healing, joy peace kindness when you're swimming in idolatry and dancing to destruction. In fact, such graces are not really being experienced in the Christian churches and I can tell you for a fact. It's packaging, accompanied by greed, covetousness, competition and the feel-good nonsense they teach as gospel. Its a ring of exploitation. The pastors get their pay from preaching lies but all that will soon end.

I know how many Christians I have to help every now and then, including frustrated pastors. But they will climb pulpit the next day and continue telling lies.

I sense anger, bitterness and the spirit of heaviness exuding from you. Whatever got you into this, i pray God's help on you before gets worst than this.

coputa:
mr sense,the money you hv been giving to pastors that is misaproriated including the one stolen by church workers,does it glorify God,how many of them have used their jets to glorify God,they prefer to use it to launder fund,Mr sense,you seem to be blinded by religion.

The native doctors you gave your own, what did they do with it?
Dem use am lay curses on you. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Benbellamor:
Oyedepo keep cursing, because of dry tithe and offerings....his church under lock....he will be arrest soon flogged...ole barawo..thief.

What will you do now that Church is open? I went to church on Sunday

khia:
It's better to live in the truth than to die in ignorance. If his skin color didn't matter what was the purpose of changing it from black(the truth) to white (a falsified doctrine)?

You didn't answer me.
Does his skin colour offer you salvation?

MrPresident1:
No you go to hell.

Only satan deceive people to think there's no hellfire. Die and see.

Kobojunkie:
I technically did not call you a liar but you what you posted was a lie.


OK? so, during this time, did God not speak to his own because they had no bibles to read from?


You mean to say that when God speaks to man, even today, man has no way of recognizing his voice or HIM?? Are you suggesting that there is no way for a man to know the very voice that called him into being?


Last I checked, God is God all by HIMSELF! So He decides who and when He will speak audibly to anyone He chooses. I don't make that decision for him and neither do you. Now if He wants me to have evidence of this, He would let me know. And given the personal nature of the experience, I couldn't simply dismiss the possibilities of it, neither can I trust the claims of it, unless if given that proof for my own benefit.


Where is the evidence of this claim you make here. What is the source of your claim that GOD WAS QUIET for 484 yrs? Oh, I do my research but I have no way of validating this claim of yours given I have never come across such claim anywhere.
This claim of yours supposes that MALACHI was the last script written during the time of the old prophets, when in fact MALACHI is only just the last book included in the finally compilation of the old testament books as we have it today.

I will respond to this later.

donnie:
O please stop it! We did not need Christianity to know YAH's moral law. It was taught our fathers and passed down from generation to generation. The TORAH is life and peace to them that embrace it. All those virtues you mentioned are in the TORAH.

If it's that white J-zee you're expecting, you're already lost. And if they showed you a false image, what's the guarantee that you weren't taught a false gospel. ISRAEL must awake, recognize who they are, and keep YAH's commandments or they will be destroyed.

You are rambling sir. I asked you questions, pls answer them.

You were the one who brought Jesus and His skin colour into your narrative so pls answer me.

witworth:
if you give the poor your money, it is best. In fact then you have given it to God. Not pastors that uses private jets

Do you know the response Jesus gave to people like you who accused a lady for pouring a very expensive perfume on Him? He said, the poor you will always have. But, me, you will not always have

And, you know what? Those who criticized him didn't do it because they cared for tge poor. Just like you arw doing now. Its not becos you so much for the poor. You arw doing this to weaken the work of God.

Don't answer me, answer yourself, how much have you done for the poor during this Coronavirus pandemic?
This is what Jesus Himself said about people like you.

Revelation 2:9
I know how much you suffer and how poor you are, but you are rich. I also know the cruel things being said about you by people who claim to be God's people. But they are not really God's people. They are a group that belongs to Satan.

You arw working for satan your lord

coputa:
Pastor,i know that christains are suppose to use their wealth/money to worship GOD.Must we give them to the "pastors", are there no other ways to worship God.

No, we will Invoke Jeaus to appear then hand him the money.
See sense.

Benbellamor:
Fish brain.... Oyedepo is running into. Bankruptcy already.... Tithes and offerings on steady decline, we warned them but they keep stealing... Nowhere to hide for Oyedepo..

An envious son of a poor radiologist. Poor you your father is a lazy quack

Kobojunkie:
Pagans and idol worshippers? I was speaking mostly of people who lived from the time of Jesus' death to about the 1700s. How do you know they were all pagans and idol worshippers?

Remember we are still talking about God talking to His people(?). You called me a liar because I said God mostly talks to people via His words. You went on to say what about all the people who lived from the time of Jesus.
Do you know that the Word of God was in the hands of those who were not under the conteol of Catholic Church? Do you know that while the Catholic Church held almost all the world under bondage the Syrian or the Coptic's had their scrolls or parchments which makes even their version of Christianity today different from ours?

It may interest you to know rhat no one can outsmart God. Before satan makes his plans God is always ahead of him. Most people under the Catholic rule had no access to the word of God, hence didn't know God personally except what the friars and monks said, how then will they know whose voice will be speaking to them?

If you have a record of any one whom God spoke to audibly pls, let's hear.

Kobojunkie:
Where evidence do you have to claim that God kept quiet from the time of Malachi to the time of Matthew?

I am not going for spoon feed you on this. If you are a Bible student you shd know this.

God was quiet and didn't speak to anyone for 484yrs from the time Malachi appeared last to when John the Baptist appeared. Do your research and stop being lazy.

gobuchinny:
It's people like u that allow scammers lie to them to tickle your ear. You dont understand the new testament requirement. Yeshua Himself being a prophet never collected tithe or offering from anyone. Infact anyone he told to sell his earthly possession, He told them to go give to the poor . I'm sure if its ur criminal daddy In the lord you can guess where he would have told them to give to.

Remember Yahsua was born under the law so Himself was subject to d law. He told the man He healed to go show himself to d priest and do what Moses said In the Law. He had to die first before the new testament was enacted as Hebrews say"there is first need that the testator should die.......".

Giving to your god of man IS NOT GIVING TO GOD. Your god of man is not your savior. Himself is but a mere man and a fellow brethren so y do you worship him like his your saviour.

My friend its every man for himself. You r a baby spiritual and dont even know what you beleive in. You worship a God you neither know nor truly believe. Actually your god is your belly .

Wont respond to you again as you lack understanding.

Okay.

gobuchinny:
Oga you r reading the old testament where we had a physical temple and priests and levites . Y didnt you also pick an old testament scripture on how God told the Israelites to kill their enemies physically .

If you even look at the scripture you quoted, honoring God is rendering help to the poor proverb 19 vs 17 and not giving to a pot bellied white wearing scammer.

Like I said. Continue to worship man.

Oh, unbelievers. Shaking my head.
You shd have told Jesus to yell the widow who gave every money she had not to give.

Kobojunkie:
That one na lie! Are you suggesting that for over over 1000s of years, during which only the religious men in rome, and the rich aristocrats of the day had access to a copy of the book you call the Bible today, God did not speak directly to his people, many of whom had no clue what was written in the book aside from what they had been told them by the religious bullies of their day?

In other words, you are claiming that God speaks to pagans ans Idol worshippers. To do what exactly?
You can post those He spoke to to prove I lied.


Hahahahahahaha. How ignorant people can be yet call people they don't know lies.

Even to the Nation of Israel where prophets who see God and hear God are drawn from, God keeps them quiet for years.

From Malachi to Matthew, do you know how many years God kept quiet? He does as He please.

WaffenSS:
You missed the point.

My question is: what kind of god demands money? Are you not paying bribe too to get to heaven?

I'd prefer a god who gives ME, than me giving HIM. That's the whole point about having a benevolent god isn't it?

The same kind of God who demands that we honour him with our money or wealth according to you.

All I see in you is SELF. you give first to receive when it comes to kingdom wealth.
I wish I can waste my time on you to post so many scriptures about giving to God.

Or, maybe you shd post just one scriptures which says we shouldn't give to God because he doesn't need it.

WaffenSS:
Honor the lord with your wealth...... wealth does not mean just money. In the old testament even wisdom and diligence are wealth.

Your modern pastorpreneurs have convinced everyone that wealth automatically means cash. And in the same verse you quote people are advised to give according to their ability so they don't affect their own sustenance, but your pastors insist it must be 10% every month.

Dude, give away your money. It's yours after all.

Thank you for even mentioning wealth but tried to give another interpretation to wealth.

I just feel sorry for you truly. But, you will use your money to give bribe for whatever that is demanded of you.

You will steal, cheat, lie and do all.manner of evil to wealthy but, giving to God is a sin.

What a shame.

olaalekan:
Why don't you guys let Islam be. Islam this Islam that. Una no get work. Pls get busy.

We are trying g to help you out of Satan's hand. Allah is satan. It's not a joke.