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Karleb:
Sincerely. Being an atheist is really hard.

It's better to be a Christian in Afghanistan than to be an atheist in Nigeria.

I pity those guys, they go through a lot.

What a senseless comparison.
Christians are killed in Afghanistan for being Christians, what do the Atheists face in Nigeria?

HardMirror:
you just learned the word i see. putting it to use in all you recent posts. good job, that is how to become more conversant with the use of new words you learn, you use them in sentences.

Inferiority complex dey worry you for here. This guy no be ya match boy

HardMirror:
you are just contradicting yourself and making no sense. it is like saying that you are a wannabe human. the only way i am a wannabe atheist if for me to actually believe in god, anything else you say is nonsense

Poor HardMirror you are still daft. Everything he said made 100% sense. Only, you lack cognitive resonance.

HardMirror:
as if this so called god even talks for itself. who can something that cannot talk or write for itself make any rules? even a dog makes rules that i would respect, at least it can bark and ask me to keep off and i would respect it

After this many years, you are still this stupid. Read what you typed if it makes any sense.

When you embarked on a 70 days fast demanding that the prophecies of God gets nullified, did you ask God to prove Himself to you?

I doubt you even had a Bible through out your teenage age you attended church and called yourself a Christian. If you had the Bible, even if you doubt it, you won't be talking so stupidly.

HardMirror:
i am beginning to see you have a problem with reading and comprehending.

He is on point. The problem is, you are too proud to admit you are wrong. But, shd I be surprised? No.

HardMirror:
what do you mean by wannabe atheist? you mean there are people who believe in god or lets even be specific, are Christians, yet come out to say there is no god or they dont believe in god? how is that even possible? are you even thinking at all or just want to talk for the sake of talking. just listen to your own crap. wanna be atheist my foot! you are an atheist just pretending to be an christian. you are a wanna be christian for sure.

HardMirror. You were never a Christian. You attended church, but you never knew anything about salvation which puts you in a place of relationship with Christ.
Pls stop deluding yourself.

Pelecius:
I wonder how wannabe atheists enjoy self delusion, like the ones stated by op. I think it makes them feel good and "intellectually" fulfilled.

Most times, wannabe atheists objections are outright straw man. Let's consider his points.

1. Emotion is part of every human. Being a religious person (I'll argue for Christianity henceforth) does not make you more emotional than an atheist. First point.
Secondly, it is not a MUST that you listen to gospel songs. And gospel songs don't ONLY talk of emotional stuff. You are assuming too much here. And most movies don't end in tragedy, gospel movies included. Or are you implying that movies where good overcome evils are gospel?
The reality of being a sinner is not to appeal to anyone's emotion. The saving grace of Christ is evident as hard criminals turn to peaceful and loving people.
If you are not happy with it, it doesn't make you right. On the other hand, you seem to have just expressed your own emotions (maybe to make you feel good)

2. To hope also is universal, whether an atheist or a theist. Just that what one hopes on differs.
Again, you've stated two behaviors of humans generally, but tried to use it in disparaging religion.
Your "hoping on the impossible" is a straw man for the Christian faith. There's the instructions for WORK + faith and that of WATCH + pray. Most wannabe atheists set up straw man to attack. So a Christian does not hope while doing nothing just as a scientist does not hope to get results without experiments.

3. Like you already stated, having a family or urge to belong to a family is also universal. Now, your last statement of wanting an apostate to leave miserably is unfounded claim. It's just in your head. In fact, it's not a Christian thing to do.

4. Irresponsibility
This is where you just merely expressed your emotions. Your very first statement is another unfounded claim. You went on to prove it by other unfounded claims.
Seems that your ignorance of what Christianity teaches is just overwhelming and you must of think that Christianity is limited to Nigerian culture where evil forces are the order of the day.
Pick a Bible and study, it'll save you these unfounded claims you bring up.

5. Appeal to Authority.
You seem to write this to justify your alleged atheism. Using the Bible truths to train up children is not wrong, except you show otherwise. It definitely contains moral absolutes with which we can build a sane society (most atheistic influence nations actually built their morals on religion, and I'm not saying atheists can't be moral - though, there's no justification for that).
Your claim that atheist must work to earn his respect is even a Biblical principle also (Prov 24:22).

6. No need to think?
This is where you got it all wrong. You just don't know what Christianity teaches, so you invent one to make yourself look sophisticated.
The Bible encourages critical thinking and it was this that led to the rise of modern science (I believe you were not expecting this). Scriptures include:
A. Test things and hold on to what's true. 1 Thess 5:21
B. Only fools believe just anything. Prov 24:15
C. The Berean Christians checked what Paul said to see if it's correct. Acts 17:11
And other scriptures.

It turns out that wannabe atheists enjoy some delusions to feel good of their rebellion against God by cooking up what Christianity does not teach and rubbishing it. A simple logical fallacy called straw man.
But those are easily knocked down (then they mostly shift ground to bring up another topic without acknowledging being wrong).
Just as the scripture says:
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. Prov 18 vs 17

Just ignore that foo.l. You'll be wasting your breath for nothing.

haekymbahd:
Yah is the only God are you insinuating that Jesus is not God?

it really makes sense the real Yeshua practice Judaism and a worshipper of God. The Jesus of trinitarians is fake who claims he was Yahwe.

open your eyes and ears

Allah SWT said:

"And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah, who created them, if it should be Him that you worship."
(QS. Fussilat 41: Verse 37)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com


Can I ask you what is the name of the moon God because Allah is just a title only the Lord of heaven and earth bears it.

.Before the technology how do your forefather give dates, months, and years if not observing the moon.

instead of proving you wrong I think it is better I give you a taste of your medicine because that is the only thing you can understand then you will know there is element of Astrology in christianity. Do you know at this moment there are few christians in isreal do you know why Let me give you your history. After Jesus was raised up the desciples and follower of Jesus at the time were Jewish christians meaning they didn't beleive Jesus was God but messiah they were named Nazarenes then all of a sudden a man named Paul persecutor of Jewish christians claimed he saw a bright light and started teaching his doctrine which contradicted the Nazarenes hence they rejected Paul in isreal. Paul then went to a non isrealite a location (Antioch in Rome) to convert Gentiles who didn't know Jesus true teachings in mass. Then he (Paul) combined the isreal view of God with the Romans to form one God system that was why the Romans accepted him.
Zeus is the god of the sky in ancient Greek mythology. As the chief Greek deity, Zeus is considered the ruler, protector, and father of all gods and humans. Paul infuse the Greek doctrine with the isrealite to form one Religion . The name Jesus was derived from the word Iezeus. The letter "J" was a later addition in English language. that was were the name Christianity was formed.

So when christians call on Jesus they think they call on Yeshua but it is falls. You won't see christians pray in name of Yeshua but Jesus because they are involving in their evil act.

So Jesus Christ didn't practice Judaism only Yeshua (Prophet Isa) did.


Dont you wonder why Christians took "Sunday as holy instead of Saturday the Sabbath"

Jesus (Iezeus) sun (son) of God. Christians are actually calling on sun of God but they think they call on son of God.

You must have been hearing people saying the character "Jesus Christ does not exist but the man made up) Yeshua is the one that exist. That's why you worship on Sunday because you serve the sun God.

You see astrology in christianity.

Yeshua is prophet Isa which Allah is talking about.

Worshipping on Sunday, Easter (Ishtar), Christmas e.t.c did Yahwe or Yeshua tell you to observe all this rather you infuse the Greek view of God with isrealites to form one Religion.


Here are names of Gods throughout history that were said to have been born by a virgin on 25th December.

HORUS
An Ethiopian-Sudanese God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 3,000 YEARS before Jesus.

BUDDHA
A Nepal God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 563 YEARS before Jesus.

KRISHNA
An Indian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 900 YEARS before Jesus.

ZARATHUSTRA
An Iranian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 1,000 YEARS before Jesus.

HERCULES
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 800 YEARS before Jesus.

MITHRA
A Persian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin- 600 YEARS before Jesus.

DIONYSUS
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 500 YEARS before Jesus.

THAMMUZ
A Babylonian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 400 YEARS before Jesus.

HERMES
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 200 YEARS before Jesus.

ADONIS
A Phoenician God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 200 YEARS before Jesus.

JESUS CHRIST
A Roman God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 300 AD.

You know the truth. Its accepting it that's your problem, but you will eventually, by then it will be too late.
No need wasting time here.

Myer:
2 major fallacies in your argument.
1. Why did you conclude that anyone who is not worshipping Christ is worshipping Satan?

Because Yah is the only God, Ns Jesus is the ONLY way to Him. Any other way is to Satan. I wont argue with you on this.

Myer:
When Judaism which Jesus Christ practised preaches against Jesus Christ.

Meaning what? Jesus Christ practiced Judaism which preaches against christ? Makes no sense

Myer:
2. You concluded that Allah is a moon God when when the Quran itself teaches not to worship the moon except God?

Oh yeah? Maybe you shd trace back to when Muhammad's father's worshipped allah as the moon god and the symbols of theiir God of you won't see the moon and stars there. Look up to the symbol of Islam And advise yourself.
Why are you guys watching to see the new moon before celebrating the Ramadan asAllah, a pre-islamic pagan festival?.
Who do you think you want to deceive?

Myer:
You're simply playing to the gallery.
Every religion paints other religions as the devil hence why a Christian's believes non-Christians are devil worshippers, likewise Muslims believe non-Muslims are devil worshippers.

Well, they are wrong. As long as there's an element of Astrology inside Islam, it belongs to the Babylonian system.
No matter how hard they try to hide it, we know they are Babylonians and the end shall tell.

Myer:
It simply means that man recognises an Superior power behind creation and is constantly seeking a way to connect with it.

Different religions are simply products of man's quest to do that.
God is God no matter the religion you choose to seek him.

Unfortunately most religions wish to monopolise God(s) as exclusive only to theirs which explains why there are many gods and religions.
My simple submission.

The bolded is why people worship Satan without knowing. Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the ONLY WAY TO GOD ALMIGHTY whose name is Yahweh. And that's not the same as Allah. Allah is a moon Arabian god

iamuye:
From the beginning, Did he (Allah/Yahweh) know that his first/second creation would need a manual (Bible/Quran) to live right?

I have heard many religious people say He (Allah/Yahweh) knows the beginning and the end.

Pls stop putting Yahweh together with allah they are not the same

Workch:
So YouTube gives the clear picture. How do you guys reason?

The same way you reason by believing the whole world is leaving Christianity because a few Atheists and satanists say so.

BeLookingIDIOT:
Lol... YouTube videos
How about YouTube videos of UFOS?
You guys are so terrible in your thinking skills.
Since you're speaking about a statistical issue,then I expect to see the stats,not YouTube videos. And the stats clearly shows that your faith is dying rapidly amongst those America's youth,not the other way round.

What about UFOs?
You are sooooo wrong.

AntiChristian:
You sabi tell lies ooo!

In the Arabic Bible why is Allah used as Yahweh?

Deuteronomy 4:35 English
You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other.

35 «قَدْ أُظْهِرَتْ لَكُمْ هَذِهِ الأُمُورُ لِتَعْرِفُوا أنَّ يهوه هُوَ اللهُ الحَقِيقِيُّ، وَلَا أحَدَ سِوَاهُ.

اللهُ = Allah

The LORD = YAHWEH

GOD is ELOHIM

THE LORD IS GOD MEANS YAHWEH IS ELOHIM.

So why was Allah used?

Arabic Bible reference https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=%EF%BA%8D%EF%BB%9F%EF%BA%98%EF%BA%9C%EF%BB%A8%EF%BB%B4%EF%BA%94+4&version=ERV-AR

iamuye

If the Arabic Bible Yahweh is called Allah, then allah must be the Father of Jesus Christ, because no Christian Bible dies Jesus as Yahweh's son.

So, answer me, is Allah the Father of Jesus Christ?

Workch:
So YouTube gives the clear picture. How do you guys reason?

If pictures can be photoshopped, I believe videos can't.
There tones of videos to that effect.
Stop stalling and go already

Workch:
People learn facts from YouTube usually don’t do well.
That’s how we make antivaxxers and other conspiracy theorists.

I didn't ask you to go t YouTube to get facts, I said go And watch how rapidly the youths are turning to Christ.
Don't just sit down in your house and Conjure up stuff.

Workch:
Good evening bros and sis, it’s no longer a news that “no religion” is the fastest growing religious status in the world and its not surprising why that is happening. Science and innovations is making people smarter and a lot of people are seeing the lies in religion. In few centuries, religion will struggle real bad to hold on to their relevance as science exposes more of the lies in it.

The reason smart people think religion is most likely a lie is that it’s common to all religion never to provide evidence for whatever they claim they have. Aside this, religion in its self is a fallacy. Religion reaches a conclusion before finding evidence, that’s a very odd way of establishing the truth. It’s like eating a food before cooking it, you can never know how tasty it is.
Religion already reached the conclusion that a supernatural being controls everything, you don’t have to sort for evidence to believe this conclusion, that’s why even a child that is incapable of reasoning can believe such conclusions. And then they go ahead sorting for evidence to back this conclusion. Religion often do not find any testable evidence for thousands of claims hence they adopted the tactics of distorting already existing evidence (they do it ignorantly though) that doesn’t conform their existing conclusion of “god did it”
You start seeing distortions like:
Atheism is also a religion

Microevolution is true but no evidence for macroevolution

Fossil records are inaccurate.

Nothing can come from nothing, but bang is a lie.

Etc but they will never provide testable evidence to counter it. This is why they can never be taking seriously in scientific procedures. You can’t counter an existing testable evidence with just words, you have to provide verifiable and testable counter-evidence.

When you pressure them a lot, they reach a premise that it’s impossible for the physical to comprehend things the spiritual, instead of providing evidence that the spiritual exist in the first place. How can we even take that seriously when there is no evidence that a spiritual realm exist?

They distort everything, play gimmicks with words and definition and you know why they do that, no evidence for whatever they say hence they want to create the pictures that everyone including science doesn’t have evidence as well, so no one knows the absolutely truth yet. Like a “whataboutism” fallacy.

This tricks won’t last long, people are becoming wiser, mostly in the eastern and western world. Religion is dying and it’s just a matter of time until its no longer makes sense to the majority.

It doesn’t matter how long lies persist, truth always catch up. That’s what is happening .

Poor guy, I don't know where you got this from. Pls go to YouTube and see how rapidly the youths in America are turning to Christ.

Christianity can never die. As long as the sun still shines and Jesus tarries, we will be here. Na you go die

2dominate:
Trash as always, not surprised at all.

You could try refuting me with points. Saying trash doesn't cut.

haekymbahd:
Not so fast Trash as usual mind you Allah means God unless you want to say Yahweh is not God (Allah).

Read with the intent of understanding not jus to put up arguments.
Allah means god as in, a deity worshipped by the Arabs in the Arabic peninsula long before Muhammad was born. It was not the almighty God when Muhammad's progenitors worshipped it.
Muhammad raised its status to god almighty when be was convinced by a sooth Sayer Waraqa that he was a prophet.
Allah was never anything other than a household god in the family of Muhammad. Muhammad's grand father 'Al Mutalab was a chief priest to Allah, Muhammad's father 'Abullah', was a chief priest to Allah, so from where did Muhammad become a propher.

haekymbahd:
Exodus 6
2 And God said to Moses, I am the Lord.

3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by My [a]name the Lord [Yahweh] I did not make Myself known to them [in acts and great miracles].

If you had stopped to read what you posted you should have asked yourself why the Lord didnt say His name was Allah.
Malam, I told you that gods are known by their personal names, not the title 'God'. Here Yah has clearly told you that his perianal name is Yahweh, not Allah or just God. Why you are raging here is not clear to me.

haekymbahd:
You said a deity is not known by simple term God no answer this

Why don't you have an answer to this?

haekymbahd:
Why did Yahweh respond to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and messengers before moses when the call him Almighty Allah (God Almighty)

Hahahahahahahahaha. Malam, sorry to bust your bubbles, Allah is not the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. You have believed a lie.
If he is, the question, why he didn't reveal his name Allah to Moses but Yahweh should arise.

Yahweh the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob is the Father of Jesus Christ. Is Allah the Father of Jesus Christ? No.

haekymbahd:
13 And Moses said to God, Behold, when I come to the Israelites and say to them, The God of your fathers has sent me to you, and they say to me, What is His name? What shall I say to them?
14 And God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM and WHAT I AM, and I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE; and He said, You shall say this to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you!

If God (Allah) is not a name I ask you is "I am what I am, I will be what I will be, I am" a name? what will He (God) be if not God (Allah)

Malam, calling Allah God won't make him God as calling a Cow a dog will never make a a cow a dog.

A cow is known by what it does, and a dog is also known by what it does. That they are all called animals doesn't make them the same.

Yahweh has a son, His name is Jesus.
Matt 3:28 [This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased]
Allah has a slave his name is Muhammad.

We Jews and Christians are children to our God, and He is a Father to us. Is Allah your father?
He appears to talks to us, pls, who has ever seen allah? Did Muhammad ever saw Allah? No, never. Has any Muslim ever seen Allah? No, never. But, we see our God often. Muslims see him and runs out of Islam.
If you are doubting me, call Him and ask Him to show you who the real God is. Say, allah, if you are the real God, show me by appearing to me, and say, Jesus Christ, if you are true real God show appear to me. Do that lets see how long you will remain a muslim.

haekymbahd:
Mind you [/]there were several gods in isreal before Abraham[/] yet God appeared to Abraham as God Almighty infact Abraham and his father were idol worshippers too called gods yet Yahweh appeared to Abraham as God Almighty.

@ bolded, pls get your facts correct. There several gods in Israel when God appeared to Abraham? What the hell?
There was the Nation of Israel when Yahweh appeared to Abraham? Is this what you tell you in your mosques?

Malam, there was no nation of Israel until the Israelites left Egypt. That's like close to 500 years after Abraham had died hahahahahahahahaha.
Abraham was originally from Ur of Chaldees in Mesopotamia. In today's map, that will be somewhere around Kuwait.

It was the idolatry which Allah was one of the gods then that made Yah to call Abraham out of there.

haekymbahd:
Allah SWT said:

"O Moses, indeed it is I - Allah, the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
(QS. An-Naml 27: Verse 9)

"Go to Pharaoh and say, 'We are the messengers of the Lord of the worlds,"
(QS. Ash-Shu'araa 26: Verse 16)

What is the meaning of this? So Allah sent Moses to Pharaoh? Hahahahahahahahaha. So, you are saying the Israelites whom Moses brought out of Egypt were Muslims?
Are you serious? Lolzzzzzzzz.

Let's follow this your line for a while. There were things that Moses was asked to do which significance weren't known then, but they are known now. Like the killing of the lamb, eating to the flesh, not breaking any bones. the sprinkling of the blood on the door posts.
Pls explain to me why Allah asked Moses to do those things, and their significance in Islam today?

haekymbahd:
Rather it is a sin to associate Jesus with Yahweh or Allah.
[quote author=haekymbahd post=104402579]

It is a sin to associate Jesus and Yahweh? Hahahahahahahahaha.
Matthew 3:28. [/b]This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased[/b]
Yahweh calls Jesus Christ His son. Jesus calls Yahweh is father, Allah says Jesus is not his son. Between YAH and Allah who is lying?

haekymbahd:
[/quote]You even said Allah was hubaal, while Muhammad had destroy all the idols at the khaaba including hubals and Allah exclusively went against hubals (Baal)

Lol. Should I be the one to teach you your religion?

Answer me this, was Allah worshipped by Muhammad's grand father and father? As what?

By then, did Allah had three daughters?
Do you know about 'Al Alat, 'Al Malat, and 'Al Uzza, the three daughters of Allah? Do you know that Muhammad abrogated that part of the Koran to deceive you ignorant Muslims?

Do you know that Muhammad use to take advise from Satan or rather Satan entered him and was giving him commands when he thought it was Jibril?
Did you know that Muhammad asked you Muslims to listen to those demons of Astrology the daughters of Allah?

haekymbahd:
[/quote]The Quran didn't mention Yahweh neither did Jesus, Paul, Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, David, Solomon knew the name "Yahweh" what the all knew was Allah (God) Yahwe was only revealed to Moses so what's the big deal..... Or is Father, Eli, Elohim the same as Yahweh. So what's the fuse all about..

When you need an understanding ask question instead assuming you know.

Pls go through the Bible, anywhere you see the word 'LORD, it stands for the name Yahweh. The Jews take 'Thou shall not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain very seriously. In the place of Yahweh, they use LORD. Go and do your research.

The question you shd ask yourself is why God didn't tell Moses that His name is Allah but Yahweh.

And again, Yahweh is a person. Is alah a person? Yahweh has a head, mouth, he has eyes nose, ears, hands. He gets angry, he laughs, he sits down and walks about. Does allah have all these characteristics?

haekymbahd:
[/quote]That guy said Allah is not Yahwe ask him is Jesus the same Yahwe or are there 2 different Almighties?

You are venturing into deep grounds that Muslims can never understand.
You quoted Yahweh saying 'I AM WHO I AM, and I AM WHAT I AM. I CAN BE ANYTHING I WANT TO BE'.
So, yes Jesus Christ was Yahweh before he became human. He is the eternal God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He created the heavens the earth. Allah will stand judgement before Jesus.

Every soul that Allah has caused the Muslims to.kill, he will be punished for everything. And you, repent when there's still time. Dont follow Allah to hellfire.

FOLYKAZE:
I think I am the only one who do not understand the OP. Can you please rephrase in simple terms what he is trying to pass across

I wish I have that time now. But, I will try and fine time, but for now, go with what you feel it's right

musicwriter:
Thanks for reading.

If you read it all it means you actually find it interesting. However, you're not supposed to understand it because it's meant only for adults seeking true knowledge. I made that clear from the beginning.

Interesting? Hahahahahahahahaha. I wanted to get your point, but nothing here.
Guy if this is your dept of knowledge, pls return to school.
Wait, how old are you again?

You are a traumatic child. Listen, right here in this forum, I have read great esoteric minds. Occult men and women, New Agers. Openly proclaimed satanists. Very smart an insightful in their submissions. Compared to them? You never start. Yet, we floored them all.
You be pikin and I can't waste my time on a senseless kid.
Goodday

BassReeves:
Not what the hell but rather what a demonic paradise the thread will turn in to become!!!!!

And demons paradise is hell na

iamuye:
Hmm well I’ve thought about it (Allah/Yahwe). Pls enlighten me more about your claims

A deity is not known by the simple term 'God'. God, is not a name of any deity. It is a generic name for every worshipped being.
It's just a title. Like Teacher, Mr. Or president. All he World's presidents are presidents, but to know who they are, you must identify them. President Putin, is not President Buhari, etc.
Deities are known by first their personal names and what they do and how they operate.
Allah is an Arabian God which had been in existence lonnnnng before Muhammad was born. And that allah had no connection or affiliation with the God of Abraham until Waraqa bin Nawal (a soothsayer) introduced Muhammad to the Bible.

Allah was a moon god calles Hûbal in the ancient Arabian peninsula and part of Persia. It was Muhammad who raised him up to become almighty god. He was just a household god.

The Judeo-Christian God is called Yahweh. And he has his ways so different from the Astrological moon of of Arabia.

They are not the same at all. It's a sin to associate YHWH and Allah.

iamuye:
Woke up this morning and I thought to myself, if Allah, Yahwe etc. is almighty, did he know that eventually, his creation would need a manual ( Bible/Quran) to live right?

For me I think by default, humans are good until their immediate environment influences them.

You said 'if Allah and Yahweh 'is' God".

Do you think Allah is Yahweh? Sorry, they are not the same, so be informed

XXXXTENTACION:
Seun is a also bound by the rules of nairaland. Infact he should be the one to show good example....
if those who are meant to keep the law are the ones breaking the law what kind of image do you think that projects

You didn't understand the Op

musicwriter:
In ancient times when there were no Television, ancient people devised a way of telling stories by creating images in the mind of the listener. The modern way of doing the same thing is to cast actors and actresses in a movie. When you watch a movie, the characters you see in the movie are exactly what the ancient people created in the minds of people 3,000 years ago when there were no Television. Find details about this point at www.africason.com

Adam and Eve= cosmic embryonic duality of humanity.

God = intelligence, consciousness

Satan= the savior, the redeemer, the activator

The garden of Eden= kindergarten, ignorance.

Perfection= stagnation, spiritually dead, lack of innovation.

Those are the kind of ideas the ancient people were alluding to until certain deranged European Jews arrived the scene and destroyed everything for everyone for malevolent selfish purposes. But they're paying the price today in forever wars because unknown to them, they violated divine intelligence.

The reality is that Adam and Eve represent the cosmic duality in nature and not a literal man and woman or event. Neither is God and Satan at war against one another, rather it's an allegory used to explain principles that has no simpler way to explain it to a kid. The whole Adam, Eve, Satan, God, Snake story in the bible book of Genesis is an allegorical myth just like the wise tortoise in the African mythology that I narrated earlier in the beginning.

Again, there was never a tortoise or daughter or a king or a palace. It's just a story used to teach something. But if a 5 years old boy or girl takes the story literally, that would be the truth for that child and he/she won't be able to understand the real essence of the story. He/she would indeed have many questions, such as; why didn't the elephant tell the king the tortoise deceived him? Why didn't the elephant run away? Did the elephant wed the king's daughter in a church?

And that's why many Christians (even adults) wonder; why did God plant the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden? Why did God create Satan? Why did God throw satan to the earth? Why did God do this or that? And all sort of stupid questions.

That creation story had been in ancient Africa for thousands of years when white people didn't even exist. And our African ancestors who were heavily metaphysical far beyond spirituality as it's known today, understood that it was Satan that set us all free from stagnation, ignorance, lack of innovation, kindergartenhood. They knew that the real savior is the character called Satan in Genesis but which doesn't mean evil in African perception!! Read the last sentence again.

In ancient Africa, the snake was associated with saving power and the power of regeneration not EVIL. And the idea of Satan's saving power comes from the snake shedding it's skin to be literally born again in a new skin as all snakes do every now and then. That's where the whole concept of BEING BORN AGAIN came from. That's why our ancestors in ancient Egypt who understood this story reverend snakes. In ancient Africa, our ancestors who understood this even trained snakes to live with people in houses. The snake is still seen in good light in some parts of Africa, India, Mexico, China.

Except Europeans didn't see the snake in good light and when they conquered our ancestors in ancient Egypt, they re-wrote the ancient stories, took it literally in order to cast black people and the gentle snake as evil. And ever since, and since they said the snake was cursed by THEIR God, it provided them the foundational basis for slavery, colonialism, apartheid and the global hatred against black people, which we black people are still paying the price today.

You the black man/ woman has been blackmailed by Europeans on a global scale. They blackmailed the Genesis snake meaning black/Africa, stole your ancient saving power and replaced it with a white Jesus in their image. Your ancient glory and power has been stolen without your knowledge. Your spirit is dead!!

To worship Jesus as an African is to worship the white man as your God because there's no Jesus but the white man.

Details at www.africason.com

Thank you.

Meehn, I have never spend time and interest reading a whole of senseless nothing.
What the hell!!!!!

I went back to page 1 to read this thread. Mehn, people passed through this thread.
Where is everyone now? Haaaa, I wish they wld come back. That was when this section was alive.

I miss that time

MaxInDHouse:
Ashewo!

What brought you here?

Hope you've not come to talk about how you tried to seduce your boss!







Ashewooo!

You are a baby.
What makes one a prostitute?

Please don't quote me. I have read through your comments, you are very irresponsible. It will.be a waste of time talking to a brick wall. Bye

MaxInDHouse:
So who are you referring to as my own brother?

Well if you must know everyone is my neighbour but only those having the same line of thought with me are my brothers! Matthew 12:46-49

So you don't know the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the scriptures you're quoting!

Again watch it. This pride will sink you.

BassReeves:
Genesis 2:8
'And the LORD God planted a garden (oasis) in the east, in Eden (delight, land of happiness);
and He put the man whom He had formed (created) there.'

Genesis 3:23-24
'23therefore the LORD God sent Adam away from the Garden of Eden,
to till and cultivate the ground from which he was taken.
24So God drove the man out; and at the east of the Garden of Eden
He [permanently] stationed the cherubim and the sword with the flashing blade
which turned round and round [in every direction] to protect
and guard the way (entrance, access) to the tree of life.'

1 Kings 4:30
'Solomon’s wisdom surpassed the wisdom of all the sons of the east and all the wisdom of Egypt.'

Matthew 2:1-2
'1Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king (Herod the Great), magi (wise men) from the east came to Jerusalem, asking
2“Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”,'

Matthew 24:27-28
'27For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west,
so will be the coming [in glory] of the Son of Man [everyone will see Him clearly].
28Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will flock together.'

Human life began in the east of the Garden of Eden. As it started, doing a full circle, so as in the beginning, it shall end. Jesus is due back and He will return, coming from the East.

If you know, you know because you understand.

I Know and I believe you. Jesus is the sun in the East of Heaven

MaxInDHouse:
You're welcome!

You are soooo lost. You insulted him, rather than getting upset, he thanked you, and instead of you apologizing, you stupidity said thank you.
What indoctrination does to people.

You see that over inflated self worth (believing you know more everyone) that the Jehovah's witnesses organization inculcates into you guys? That is what will plunge you into hellfire faster than anything.

Yahweh resists the proud.

MaxInDHouse:
Empty headed misinformed Churchgoer!

Is this all you have in your brains?

Yet you want to argue over Jesus' heavenly identity.

OLÓDO!

What is the point of insulting him? In your WT mind now, you have done well.
The guy is right, Jesus is God.