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Baliv254:
Tanzania is dominated by Southafrica thats why you have one foot in sadc and another in EAC

Oh!! Wait few moment I will attach all companies registered in Tanzania.
Then tell me how many are SA companies.

Do research. In Tanzania everything is online.

rvp2018:
I simply said South Africa companies despite investing billions have never had a success in Kenya compared to elsewhere in Africa. They keep coming and we keep sending them back home. But look at Tanzania - South Africa firms dominate if not Kenya firms.

I told you to do research.

vaxx:
mr idiot. BRT and the rest of your rubbished aren't missing In Ghana . I am dealing with my coffee chocolate mixed for Monday task. You can sit down here why magafuli uses his ignorance to pounder into more poverty .

Oh!!
First of all our president called
John Joseph Pombe Magufuli.
I don't know the name of your president.

Second I have the name, you are calling me Mr idiot!!! This shows how inferior you are.

Finally you are the one asked is only bridge in Dar es salaam!?
I said no.
I mentioned some of items Dar es salaam can offer you.
You can be agree but the fact is Dar es salaam Tanzania if far far ahead of you.

Dar es salaam means Haven of Peace

rvp2018:
This is beyond the Tanzanian brain. Go back to school and learn English first. Before you dabble in corporate finance.

First, understand what NOMINEE account It's not the bank; Standard Chartered is a stockbroker.

KCB shareholding
1 Permanent Secretary to the Treasury of Kenya 17.53
2 National Social Security Fund (Kenya) 5.64
3 Standard Chartered Nominees A/C 9867 2.25
4 Standard Chartered Nominees Limited A/C KE23221 2.07
5 CFC Stanbic Nominees Limited A/C NR3530153-1 2.02
6 Standard Chartered Kenya Nominee A/C KE17682 1.91
7 Standard Chartered Kenya Nominees Limited A/C KE002742 1.72
8 Standard Chartered Nominees Limited A/C KE002382 1.51
9 Standard Chartered Nominees A/C KE9688 1.49
10 Standard Chartered Kenya Nominees Non-Resd. A/C 9069 1.18
11 Other Shareholders 62.69
Total 100.00

Dear All those issue white are playing with your ignorance. They will colonise you to the end of the world.

rvp2018:
Beyond your paygrade.First understand capitalism. Learn what Nominee account is. You ignorant communist . KCB, Equity, those are kenyan banks. Kenya and South Africa companies run your private sector. Be grateful.

Don't diverge the point.
You said south Africa do not own anything in Kenya.
So what!? I just show how South Africa own your economy.

Football Grounds in Dar es salaam
1. Benjamin Mkapa Stadium
2. Uhuru Stadium
3. Azam Complex
4. Simba Ground
5. Jakaya kiwete youth park

Benjamin Mkapa Stadium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cz1cGgVRjo

vaxx:
Even if I abandoned your ignorance about the rest of them , aren't you also stupid to used casinos as a standard of development. A WHOLE STREET OF ACCRA HAS MORE THAN FIFTY CASINOS CENETER ( OXFORD STREET ) that is like little los Angeles. When it comes to gambling. It is big a business here In Ghana that even drives economic growth. That venture is richer than you so called tourism if it is allowed to be audited.


Many nations of Africa are coming to Ghana to learn how she successfully did it . Even Tanzania bas come learn a better way of conducting the. Business in Ghana. A.nd this is just last year .

Oh Dear!!
I mentioned 8 items which I can show.
If you just want to concentrate on Casino non my business.
It means all other 7 plus the bridges, you cannot afford.
Let Start with BRT

rvp2018:
The Boer has been trying to enter Kenya since 1990. Only a few have survived - most notably I think is Old Mutual (and maybe Stanbic - although they had to merge with CFC bank) - the rest have collapsed. They throw money in annual ritual and they shut down a few months or year if they are lucky. Actually it goes like this - a struggling kenya firm with no hope of surviving - flies to Joburg - approaches South Africa company and sell some huge stake to it - and then bank the money - and leave the South African holding a dead bag. The same way Nigerian banks are being played.

Owners of Equity Bank Kenya

rvp2018:
The Boer has been trying to enter Kenya since 1990. Only a few have survived - most notably I think is Old Mutual (and maybe Stanbic - although they had to merge with CFC bank) - the rest have collapsed. They throw money in annual ritual and they shut down a few months or year if they are lucky. Actually it goes like this - a struggling kenya firm with no hope of surviving - flies to Joburg - approaches South Africa company and sell some huge stake to it - and then bank the money - and leave the South African holding a dead bag. The same way Nigerian banks are being played.

Do research before commenting.
You are showing the level of your ignorance.
1. KCB the main share holders are Standard chartered Bank UK and Stanbic bank south Africa.

Many companies in Kenya owned by South Africa.

Just30:


just a bridge?

is that the first one in TZ?

Not Just bridge
1. Beaches
2. BRT
3. Marine Transport
4. Stadiums
5. Music
6. Food
7. Skyscrapers
8. Casinos
And many more...
Dar es salaam Tanzania is far far ahead.

Nyerere Bridge Dar es salaam Tanzania

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0iic9k_CKI

Shma:
you said you don't want to compare, what is all this bullshit for.?

Nyerere Hydroelectric power plant

Shma:
Since you're not comparing with us, I will have to applause your secret plan, we hope in the near future under magufulism regime it will turn out to be a dream come true as per your wish.

Oh boy!! We are not wishing. Is realistic.
Let move to another part.
Cost of Electricity unit

Shma:
lemme enlighten you.
According to kenya power. Kenya's current effective installed (grid connected) electricity capacity was 2,651 MW, with peak demand of 1,912 MW, as of November 2019.[1] At that time, demand was rising at a calculated rate of 3.6 percent annually, given that peak demand was 1,770 MW, at the beginning of 2018.[1] Electricity supply is mostly generated by renewable sources with the majority coming from geothermal power and hydroelectricity".

Oh!! That is not my business. I am here to tell you what Tanzania is doing.
We are building Electric SGR and we will service it.
So I just showed you our current capacity. And we are going to add more.

What is your problem to see Tanzania has electric SGR. And the speed of Train will be 160+kmh

Shma:
what do you mean by kenya is not Tanzania? ,.
We know what we're doing., we're not the desperate lazy bones who what to compete kenya in everything.
Don't be surprised if we outsmart you in electric installation set-up time.

Oh!!! You outsmart us. Do we need electricity from Kenya!?

We are building electricity from our own source and money.
You have to understand that Tanzania has huge reserve of Coal and Uranium.

We are utilizing just few resources.

Shma:
who told you kenya is 2000??
We're heading to 3k mw if we haven't reached.

That is you. How are heading to 3000MW!?
I told you we have plan for everything.
And you have to put in your mind we are not comparing to anybody.

Shma:
hey zombie. Don't show me projections and fancy renders images.
Time will tell.
We also had the same things before the first phase was done.

Kenya is not Tanzania
Electricity connection to SGR from Dar to Morogoro is 90% completed. Is up to you now.
You can watch the video three week ago. You will see Poles with electric cables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhTTpUMntGw

Let me tell you Tanzania is serious about this.

Shma:
you should learn to comprehend people's work.
I said as compared to kenya which has a peak demand of grossly 1900mw a year ago, with almost 3k mw connectivity is having some hitches in setting up electric sgr from the word go. That means, we'll have to wait maybe after sgr completion(with piled up Mw by then) we'll start electrifying our lines.
And I had to shift goal post a little bit since that is where you were heading to, hence I said;
Your peak demand which is determined by population of your country when comparing with kenya, is still a baby.
The doom season is awaiting.

So what exactly your problem here!?
Kenya has 2000MW, Tanzania has 1900MW different is 100MW and you make noise that you have huge Electricity!?

I told you this year we are adding 150MW to the national grid. Then we will have 2050MW.

Also I told you we are building Hydroelectric power dam which will produce 2115MW and will add to 4165MW.

In Tanzania we don't have any problem for electricity cutting off.
Since 2015 we don't have problem of electricity.

We are talking about SGR let us complete, I will share with you details about electricity in Tanzania.

We have project called REA(Rural Energy Agency)
Is response for connecting electricity to villages.
We have 12,000 villages in our country 9,000 connected to Electricity.
By 2022 we will have 100% connection to all villages.

I will give you the details and evidence.

Shma:
when you reach this level in 2030.
You're free to tag me.

Oh!! Boy we don't need this at all.
Tanzania is buying electric multiple units(EMU)
Read:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecitizen.co.tz/news/Govt-floats-tender-for-electric-trains-/1840340-4248470-view-asAMP-3l91ld/index.html

Shma:
I don't just make things up in my mind.
We're dealing with Tanzania and Kenya and hence I said we have huge power supply as compared to Tanzania, with your huge population, shows you're a backwater country if you still have 1900mw.
In 2019 Kenya's current effective installed (grid connected) electricity capacity was 2,651 MW, with peak demand of 1,912 MW
That shows we have more than enough.

So what your point here!?
I don't get you.
According to your brain, because we have big population then electricity distributed each one!?

Oh!! Boy we are talking about Electric SGR do not initiate another topic.

Do you agree you have diesel locomotives, which is expensive to operate. And we are building electric which is cheap to operate!?

After we finish about SGR then we move to Electricity. I will teach you and give you the details.

Shma:
They didn't overcharged us zombie.
Go check on what has already been done . Check out the number of trains both cargo and passengers.
Our sgr is just on another level and that is the reason for its worth.

1. Do you agree those locomotives used by Tanzania 1971!?

Shma:
I love the progress, but watch the pace out, your train can turn out to be a loss making venture, kenya having huge electricity supply thought not to fix rails with electricity since more big companies will be affected and hence dooming our economy. what will be your source of power? Don't be surprised if it turns out to be a diseasel ugly staff, it's possible. Meanwhile, let's enjoy the construction progress as we wait for those machines .
And remember our construction progress is massive than yours, our sgr turnel can't compare with what you're doing, our bridges and stations are on another level.

Boy!!! Do some research before you comment.
You say Kenya has huge power supply.
Are those 2,000MW you claim huge electric supply!?

The current Tanzanaia Electricity capacity is 1900MW
We are adding this year on the National grid 150MW from Natural gas source. The end of this year 2020 we will have 2050MW.

We are building Hydroelectric power Dam which will produce 2115MW by Jan 2022.
So 2022 we will add to 4165MW.

Watch hydroelectric power dam project.
I know you speak Kiswahili


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzm7iGYybkY

Shma:
your mentality is worrying, I just proved to you what China is doing around the world including America.

So because they are doing the same in Kenya it means they are taking over.?

You are giving the answer for the different question.
I told you that; China overcharged your SGR and gave to you old version locomotives.
Is this true or not.
I said new(We call new) Kenya SGR locomotives used before in Tanzania 1971.

We have TAZARA railway which connects Tanzania and Zambia. In 1971 we got such locomotives from China.

Shma:
don't be silly my friend.
Your latest 2019 sgr failed you guys, you bought one of the ugliest locomotive on planet earth, see your life.

Oh boy.
We are still constructing Electric SGR how come we have locomotives!?
Tanzania is building its own SGR.
From Dar es salaam to Morogoro(300km) 70%
From Morogoro - Dodoma- Makutopora Singida (400km) 50%
We are not yet have locomotives for SGR.

I know you speak kiswahili watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6D6iyecjLA

Qatar airway resumed flight to Tanzania

#GoodNews On June 16 2020 @qatarairways ✈️ A320 arrived in Dar es Salaam 🇹🇿 for the first time since the re-opening of flights into the country.@TTBTanzania in collaboration with @tanzaniairports & @serenahotels Dar es Salaam gave the flight a warm welcome. #VisitTanzania pic.twitter.com/5F6nzQwEGg

— Branding Tanzania 🇹🇿 (@tzbranding) June 20, 2020

Shma:
stop ranting and prove what i asked you zombie.

What did you ask?
Show us if Chinese do not operate Kenya Locomotives and other SGR services.

Shma:
if this is how you were conditioned to think, then you need to see a doctor.
China has the best four construction companies in the world.,

What will you have you say about this.

.
"The second largest construction company in 2019 is China Railway Group (CREC). Maintaining the same position as last year, the company increased sales from US$101 billion to US$111 billion. With more than 120 years of experience, this company is not new to the construction game. CREC covers almost all fields of infrastructure from railways, highways and housing to water conservation and hydropower stations and even harbors and docks. Currently the company is operating in more than 90 countries and regions in Asia, Africa, Europe, South America and the Atlantic. But that’s not all. The company also has an extensive Research and Development sector with an impressive 1,661 invention patents. One of the company’s main focuses is exploring high-speed rail transportation at the National Engineering Laboratory for High-Speed Railway Construction."
Who are building your railway?. Who are the funders, tell me, I want to show you something.

How these all word relate to the fact that China overcharged Kenyan SGR!?

Tanzania built the same railway in 1971 with the same locomotives your get loan from China.

You can compare Tanzara railway built 1971 and your new SGR

1 pic TAZARA locomotive 1971
2 pic Kenya locomotive 2014

Shma:
don't be a silly lazy bone.
Peruse more reliable sources and enlighten yourself.
Or prove your claims zombie.

Oh boy!!
How are going to pay Chinese debt.
Kenya is a poor country. All of you are just noise makers.

Shma:
look at this ignorant.
So China can't build anything in Kenya?.

Oh!! Who told you can't build.
How come China built SGR in your country and only Chinese allowed to operate!?

Tell me the reason.
Boy Kenya still a somebody colony.

rvp20182:
But why the POVERTY, MALNUTRITION and name it - in Africa - It's Nigeria, DRC and then Tanzania. Why haven't you made progress like Ethiopia - a former communist state that is now reformed.

Oh! Boy, I am very sorry to call you ignorant.
Those are just statistics. How many children died from malnutrition!? Did Tanzania asked any help from any country!?
We are building electric SGR from our own money.
We are building Hydroelectric power dam from our own money.

We are building health centers from our money.

How can you call us poor while your country is under China!?

Tanzania does not need Kenya. Tell which sector does Tanzania need from Kenya!?

Tanzania is independent. In 1961 we gained political independent.

From 2015 Tanzania fighting for Economic Independent.

You will never ever understand. We have our own plans.
Cheers.

rvp20182:
If your common goal is to overtake Kenya - I don't see that happening.

First for you to really go anywhere - start with NEW CONSTITUTION - and go for federalism or devolution. Like you have in Zanzibar. CCM have been promising that new constitution for 30yrs.

Tanzania is too large to be micro-managed from Darsaleem or is it Dodoma.

Split the country into maybe 40 districts or provinces - and let them have local power to decide their destiny.

You're still communism at heart with command economics.

Who told you the priority in say province A is to build a huge hospital? Maybe it's something else.

This is too low boy.
We are building our country. We are not overtaking any body. Tanzania since beginning never ever compared to anyone.

That why we have our own way of dealing with issues.
We have our own culture, we speak Kiswahili, we have Tanzania ujamaa model.

Bro, we are protect our resources for the benefit of this generation and future general.

In our country all people are treated equal. The are is no special treatment in our country.

Boy. We have everything:
Minerals, Land, People, Culture, Water, attractions, peace, unity, food etc.

We cannot compere with any country.

rvp20182:
This is the legacy of Ujamaa communism. How can we steal your mountain, vegetables and minerals? The envy and laziness is product of communism. Ghana is your friend here.

Btw that oil pipeline I doubt is happening. M7 made a big mess there. He needs to admit and re-rout the pipeline through turkana - and into lamu - otherwise, he is wasting time.

Concentrate on Mtwara natural gas.

Boy. The past Tanzania is not the current one.
You will feel the heat. Keep watch and proceed on making noise.

Tanzania is building her country. We know well our mistakes. Tanzania people are united, we have all common goal.