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Jesus Will Abolish Christianity

It is crucial to understand that according to Islamic tradition and belief, when Jesus returns, he does not merely come to convert most Christians to Islam but to literally abolish Christianity entirely.  This fact is understood when we analyze a very well-known, and oft-quoted tradition that refers to four specific things that Jesus will do when he returns.  Jesus is said to:
 
Break crosses.
Kill all swine.
Abolish the jizyah tax (a Muslim tax on non-Muslims)
Kill the Muslim antichrist and his followers.
 
The Prophet said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus. He will descent (sic) (to the earth)… He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. 13
The three actions of breaking “the cross”, killing pigs and abolishing the jizyah tax are based on the notion that Jesus will eliminate all other religions on the earth other than Islam.  Shafi and Usmani explain that to “break the cross” means to “abolish worship of the cross”.  Several Muslim friends that I’ve spoken with have expressed their understanding of this tradition: Jesus will break or remove all crosses from the rooftops and steeples of churches throughout the earth.  This action will thus indicate that Jesus will be making a clear statement regarding his disapproval of the false notion that he was ever crucified on a cross.  The killing of the swine is so that the “Christian belief of its lawfulness is belied.” 14 The reason for abolishing the jizyah tax (the compulsory poll-tax that non-Muslims must pay in order to live in a Muslim land) is based on the idea that when Jesus returns, the jizyah tax will no longer be accepted.  The only choice that Christians will have is to accept Islam or die. As Sideeque M.A. Veliankode states in Doomsday Portents and Prophecies:
Jesus, the son of Mary will soon descend among the Muslims as a just judge… Jesus will, therefore, judge according to the law of Islam… all people will be required to embrace Islam and there will be no other alternative. 15
Even Harun Yahya, likewise affirms this belief in his book, Jesus Will Return when he says,”Jesus will remove all systems of disbelief in that period.” 16 
Muslim jurists also confirm these interpretations: consider, for example, the ruling of Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (d. 1368) from The Reliance of the Traveller, the classic Shafi manual of Islamic jurisprudence:
"... the time and the place for [the poll tax] is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace) ..." 17

Jesus: The Greatest Muslim Evangelist

Islamic tradition teaches that because Jesus will declare himself to be a Muslim, he will lead many Christians to convert to Islam.  Regarding those who do not convert to Islam, the Quran states that Jesus will be a witness against them on the Day of Judgment:
 
There is not one of the People of the Scripture (Christians and Jews) but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them.  (Surah 4:159)
 
Commenting on the above verse, Mufti Muhammad Shafi and Mufti Mohammad Rafi Usmani in their book, Signs of the Qiyama [the final judgement] and the Arrival of the Maseeh [the Messiah] explain that the phrase “will believe in him before his death” means that Christians and Jews will:
 
…confirm that he is alive and has not died and he is not God or the Son of God but (merely) His (Allah’s) slave and Messenger, and Isa (Jesus) will testify against those who had called him son of God, the Christians, and those who had belied him, the Jews. 10
 
Sheikh Kabbani, Chairman of the Islamic Supreme Council of America clearly articulates the Islamic perspective regarding Jesus’ evangelistic role when He returns.
 
Like all prophets, Prophet Jesus came with the divine message of surrender to God Almighty, which is Islam.  This verse shows that when Jesus returns he will personally correct the misrepresentations and misinterpretations about himself.  He will affirm the true message that he brought in his time as a prophet, and that he never claimed to be the Son of God.  Furthermore, he will reaffirm in his second coming what he prophesied in his first coming bearing witness to the seal of the Messengers, Prophet Muhammad.  In his second coming many non-Muslims will accept Jesus as a servant of Allah Almighty, as a Muslim and a member of the Community of Muhammad. 11
 
Al-Sadr and Mutahhari, likewise articulate this same expectation:
 
Jesus will descend from heaven and espouse the cause of the Mahdi.  The Christians and the Jews will see him and recognize his true status.  The Christians will abandon their faith in his godhead (sic). 12

Jesus Will Institute Islamic Law


While the Mahdi, as the Caliph (vice-regent) and Imam (leader) of the Muslims is clearly seen as being a superior to Jesus, Jesus is still said to be a leader of the Muslim Community.  According to the Islamic traditions, Jesus’ primary purpose will be to oversee the institution and the enforcement of the Islamic Shariah law all over the world.
 
Ibn Qayyim mentioned in Manar al-munif that the leader… is the Mahdi who will request Jesus to lead the Muslims in prayer.  Jesus will remain on the earth, not as a prophet, but as one of the Community (ummah) of Prophet Muhammad.  Muslims will follow him as their leader.  According to Shalabi, the Mahdi will lead the Muslims in prayer, and Jesus will rule the Muslims according to the Divine Law (Shari’ah). 8
 
Jesus, the son of Mary will descend and will lead them judging amongst them according to the holy Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad. 9

tuale4u:
The truth is that I will love it if Buhari can prosecute all politicians.
But that does not mean the ones he can prosecute should go free because of the ones he cant.

Stop twisting my posts.

I have never advocated for any politician here.

Buhari has appointed thieves into his cabinet.

If you can condemn saraki and Dasuki before any conviction I see no reason why I can't do the same for Tinubu and co.

tuale4u:
Nobody is saying so.

Are u saying if there is a bank robbery of five people, one was caught red handed and four fled that we should declare the one we caught innocent because four escape so that our justice wont be selective?

You have a twisted logic.

Where did I call for the suspension on invesrigating any body?

I only stated the rule of law must be respected and that the EFCC should concentrate on preparing an airtight case rather than persecuting and sentencing the accused on the pages of newspapers.

If they have any evidence they should concentrate on preparing a proper brief.

And no case is more serious than another where corruption is involved. If they spend their time and energy more efficiently investigating then I don't see why they can't invite Amaechi to account for 80 billion naira he stole from Rivers to fund Buhari's campaign.

Remember a receiver of stolen goods is considered a criminal under Nigerian laws.

tuale4u:
I am not against tinubu prosecution if there are clear cases of corruption against him.
the fact that he has not be prosecuted does not mean nobody should be prosecuted.

I hear you.

Hypocrites like you will be part of his court supporters carrying placards demanding for his release.


All I know is that that day is not far away. Very soon Buhari will strike down Tinubu's over bloated ego after Tinubu begins to grumble that he isn't getting a fair share in the govt.

Already not a day goes by that one paid online tout or jaundiced hungry man journalist does not write an enconium praising Tinubu for Buhari's victory as if Tinubu got Buhari the Kano and Katsina rigged votes.

tuale4u:
is possible. Thank God we have a thief who is ready to jail other thieves.

since thieves don't fear us the masses, thank God there is a thieve that can fight them.

let my enemy fight themselves. it is to my benefit.

so it is to the benefit of Nigeria masses that they have a thief as president who has some disdain to stealing no matter how hypocritical it may be..
at least if 10naira was stolen in d past let it be it is no 5 naira that is being stolen. that in itself is a progress. we can improve from that.

Why cast stones when you support blindly other thieves?

Can you tell me that the likes of Tinubu, Amaechi, Fashola and Fayemi have never stolen a dime?

tuale4u:
I never said they are limited in scope. I only said limited in resources and time. so they must prioritized.

How much does it cost to send an invitation to come and clarify their names?

You have now shifted to financial exigency as an excuse.

I laff. This is how you will defend Tinubu stealing from you because he reinvents his stolen wealth in and around Lagos.

Yeye

tuale4u:
everybody has their own time of judgement. his time will come.

but for now it is Dasuki and co time.

Buhari and Aisha got a huge slice according to Dasuki

tuale4u:
You may be right.
for now Buhari choose to prioritized the federal govt because that is were bulk of the fund is.

by the time he decide to focus on states, it is possible what you are saying is right.

The fact that he is starting with PDP at the federal level does not make it wrong.

he must start from somewhere he choses to start from not from where u want him to start. where to start is his choice.

The EFCC has the jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute acts of corruption and financial crimes across every nook and cranny of the nation.

They are not limited to investigating federal officials.

tuale4u:
Yes I agree. the question now is timing. I am only saying for now, you must select and priotised because the country resources is not unlimited.

The Rivers state govt has documented and presented a petition of Amaechi's fraudulent govt to the EFCC.

Fayose has since petitioned the EFCC about Fayemi's bankrupting of Ekiti

What is stopping their invitation by the EFCC?

tuale4u:
Yes it make sense for now.
PDP is not the only opposition party. there are more than 20 other opposition party.
PDP is facing the current anti corruption charges because they were they were the one in power who had total control of the country wealth.
Thus bulk of the corruption reside there.

The fight is not about fighting opposition, it is about fighting corruption.

The effects of corruption are more visible in the bankrupt southwest APC states.

Jesus The Faithful Muslim

After Jesus returns, in keeping with his identity as a faithful Muslim, he will perform the ritual pilgrimage to Mecca called hajj:
 
The Prophet said: Verily Isa ibn Maryam shall descend as an equitable judge and fair ruler.  He shall tread his path on the way to hajj (pilgrimage) and come to my grave to greet me, and I shall certainly answer him! 7

tuale4u:
I am only saying your concept of Justice is not possible. it only aid corruption.

If like saying because you cannot jail all arm robbers in a country that there is no need for the police.

As at this moment, the most important thing is to ensure that ecerybody that is prosecuted are not innocent.

https://www.lifeofthelaw.org/wp-content/uploads/LadyJusticeImage.jpg
Lady Justice is blind for a reason.

She does not recognise tribe, race, name, creed and party affiliation.

All are equal in front of her.

Investigate and prosecute properly any corrupt individual that is all I have to say. But you feel only PDP should be investigated while your APC crooks loot and bankrupt the nation to satisfy their greed.

tuale4u:
The journey of a 100 miles start with a step. everything can not be done in one day.
all corrupt politicians cannot be jailed or prosecuted in one day.
They failed to start in the past does not mean we should fail to start today.

at all at all na e bad pass

You can not neglect your house and take your broom to the street.
.charity begins at home.

If the APC and Buhari want to fight corruption they must first purge themselves of corrupt individuals.

According to you only opposition politicians need to be persecuted for now.

Does that make sense to you?

tuale4u:
I only mentioned the budget when you deviated to conservatism vs progressive.

However, I concur I mention budget first.

I reminded you that the current govt and APC can not be described as progressive in any form or manner.

Follow the narrative again and you will see that I was only responding to your own derailing since you have no clue on how to defend selective justice you went on a bend preaching crap and throwing cheap rhetoric allover the place that did not in any way concern the topic at hand.

So you see how hypocritical you are for falsely claiming I was deviating when it was you who was derailing your own silly thread which you can't even defend.

tuale4u:
very true

If you want to clear your house of dirt., will you keep your own trash and only throw that of your spouse out?

Think. Since 1999, no single opposition politician has been jailed rather PDP govt has been convicting their own and avoiding the opposition which kept claiming political motivated persecution in advance.

Can Buhari deny ignorance about the allegations of corruption and theft against Fashola, Fayemi and Amaechi?

How can you run an anti corruption govt with corrupt individuals?

tuale4u:
Bro, you have left the original topic of this post to another issue.
Can I take the fact that you choose to deviate from the originally post as "Op I concur" in timaya voice

Where you not the first to discuss the scam budget here?

IdisuleOurOwn:
Millilium Ogenerobo. The 50 years old man still living with his aged parents.

Mynd44, this guy is still walking free on Nairaland.

Why are you mentioning me?

The Subordinate Of The Mahdi
 

At this time, Jesus descends to meet the army of the Mahdi which will be preparing for battle.  It will be just before the time of prayer. 
 
Muslims will still be preparing themselves for the battle drawing up the ranks.  Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus, son of Mary would descend.
 
Based on the relevant Hadith, Islamic scholars seem to be in universal agreement that the Mahdi will ask Jesus to lead the prayers.  Jesus will then refuse this request and will defer instead to the Mahdi to lead the prayer. 
 
The Messenger of Allah said: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the truth and will prevail until the Day of resurrection.  He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their [Muslims’] commander [the Mahdi] would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some.
 
The important element here that needs to be stressed is that Jesus will then pray behind the Mahdi as a direct statement regarding Jesus’ inferiority of rank to the Mahdi. 
 
Jesus Christ will decline the offer and invitation of Imam Mahdi to come and lead the Muslims in prayer, and say his prayer behind Imam Mahdi.
 
Jesus (peace be upon him) will come and will perform the obligatory prayers behind the Mahdi and follow him.
 
(Jesus) will be following the Mahdi, the master of the time, and that is why he will be offering his prayers behind him.

The Return Of The Muslim Jesus
 
According to Islam’s sacred traditions, Jesus’ return is usually described as taking place just outside Damascus:

At this very time Allah would send Christ, son of Mary, and he will descend at the white minaret in the eastern side of Damascus wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. When he would lower his head, there would fall beads of perspiration from his head, and when he would raise it up, beads like pearls would scatter from it.

[size=18pt]The Muslim Jesus[/size]
After the emergence or the “rising” of the Mahdi, the second most important event among the Major Signs, is the return of Jesus Christ.  Christians who love Jesus understandably get quite excited by the prospect that even Muslims are looking for and longing for His return.  Unfortunately, the Islamic belief of just who this Jesus is that is coming, and what he does once he has arrived, is drastically different than what Christians believe about Jesus. 
 
The first thing that Christians need to understand regarding the Islamic belief about Jesus is that Muslims of course reject the idea that Jesus was or is the Son of God.  According to Islam, Jesus is not as the Bible articulates, God in the flesh.  Secondly, in Islamic belief, Jesus never died on a cross for the sins of mankind.  The Quran specifically denies that Jesus was ever crucified or that He ever experienced death.  Muslims believe that after Allah miraculously delivered Jesus from death, he was assumed into heaven alive in a similar fashion to the biblical narrative regarding Elijah.  Since then, Muslims believe, Jesus has remained with Allah and has been awaiting his opportunity to return to the earth to finish his ministry and complete his life.  As such, to the Islamic mind, Jesus was not in any way a “savior”.  To Muslims, Jesus was merely another prophet in the long line of prophets that Allah has sent to mankind.  The special title of Messiah, although retained in the Islamic tradition, is essentially stripped of any truly biblically defined Messianic characteristics.  According to the sacred texts of Islam, as we are about to see, when Jesus returns, it most certainly will not be to restore the Nation of Israel to the Jewish people.  Nor will Jesus’ purpose be to save and deliver his faithful followers from the ongoing persecution of the Antichrist.  In order to understand the Islamic concept of Jesus’ return, the first thing that needs to be realized is that when Jesus comes back, he comes back as a radical Muslim!
 
This chapter will outline the Islamic traditions regarding the return of Jesus.  Many of the Hadith below that refer to Jesus do not call him by the name Jesus, but rather Isa.  Muslims occasionally will refer to Jesus by his English name for our sake, but the name that the Quran gives him, and which most Muslims use is Isa (or Eesa) al-Maseeh (the Messiah).  Other common titles that Islam uses when referring to Jesus are Hadrat Isa (Honorable Jesus), Isa bin Maryam (Jesus son of Mary) or Nabi Isa (Prophet Jesus).  Some of these titles may be used below.

Annunaki:
Ok let's stick to the topic, the quoran heralds and promotes the anti christ going by it's satanic and blasphemous writings, what do you have to say about it?

It is important to show here who Muslims claim is Jesus - Isa


Apart from sharing no linguistic connection to Yeshua which is actually Joshua and the Greek variant Yesus, Isa does not in any way and form represents Jesus of the Bible.

To put this in perspective from the linguistic view, the Arab variant of Abraham is Ibrahim ; Yaccoub or Yakub is Jacob; Marriam is to Mary ; Adamu for Adam; Musa for Moses and so forth.

So where did Mohammed get his Isa from?

The answer lies in both Mohammed's ignorance and the source of his fake doctrine - the devil himself.

For the name of Jesus can not be uttered by the wicked one.

I will be posting on the second coming of Jesus according to muslims and you will see striking similarities between the Muslim Jesus and the biblical anti Christ in John's Revelations.

obailala:
A pragmatic approach entails going from the little fish and working up your way to the bigger fishes. It's a pity if you do not still understand what the Op has explained. Happy sunday!

So you will rather live the shark in the pool and go for the gold fish?

tuale4u:
Not exactly. maybe a kind of delayed justice to past crime. but I don't think Buhari will toleratemassive looting under his govt. that in itself is progress.

However should Buhari tolerate massive fraud under his govt, the BUhari govt will be a failure.

The Change budget is a budget of debt. All the monies borrowed will end up in their pockets just a how Aregberascal has indebted Osun with nothing to show for it.


Have you asked what Buhari ha done with the 2015 budget?

All of the ongoing FG projects he inherited have been abandoned. Can you mention one project the Buhari govt has rolled out on their own? The answer is none.

What did he take a 2 trillion naira supplementary loan in late November to do?

This Govt is a scam

tuale4u:
Yes the $38 is a guess. Just as the so called IMF prediction of $20 is a guess.

The fact that US legislature have remove the ban of US export does not mean US wont import anymore.

US currently produce about 10million barrel of oil a day (Including shale oil. Shale oil about 3million barrel, conventional oil about 7million barrel). This is expected to decline to about 9.5million by end of 2016.

US oil consumption is about 19.5million barrel per day. Thus US is still importing about 9.5million barrel of crude per day.

The lifting of barn only means, US oil producers are no longer limited to US buyers. Which means they can choose to sell their oil to other government apart from US govt. Was that have done so far is to allow US producer to sell their crude at competitive price.

before now WTI was cheaper then Brent crude despite the fact that WTI is slightly sweeter than Brent. With the remover of the ban, WTI is now selling slightly higher than brent.

The only reason for the high benchmark inspite of daily slump in prices is because this Govt intends to add another supplementary budget which will see the 2016 budget rise to 9 trillion before the end of 2016 and our debt portfolio increase.

The APC was propped up by the West to force Nigeria to remain with the dollar. What better way to achieve that by ensuring we borrow and remain in bond to the dollar for the next 40yrs.


In a recession you don't borrow but reduce cost.

You don't have the ability of printing dollars like the US so don't use that $18 trillion dollars US debt profile as an excuse because you can't print dollars like the US so stimulus won't work in an import based economy seeing it's lowest decline in local currency value in the midst of dwindling forex occasioned from an oil slump.

obailala:
Sorry Buhari will not do that. Do you know why?... It's because he is not as foolish as you want and pray for him to be. Just like the Op has said, the war against corruption must be pragmatically prosecuted.

@Tuale4u
This is a brilliant and well articulated write-up. I particularly agree with point No. 10,
The main reason all these lovers of thieves are suggesting Buhari should start from 1960 is because they simply want his administration to fail woefully. Even just the Dasuki case is taking so much time and resources, yet these lovers of thieves want cases from 1960 to be handled. They aren't even a bit smart in concealing their real intentions.

You want a selective war.

That is a corruption of Justice on its own and makes the administration dangerously politicising crime thereby giving immunity to his APC cohorts.

tartar9:
they have changed the issue again.no ones forcing you to comment if,you have nothing to say then be quiet.

It is my thread assh0le

ddippset:
and whos to blame if oil drops to 20 dollars? Buhari right? pdplyingbastard.

I thought your superman Buhari claimed he will stabilise international oil prices?

Nobody can be blamed for the slump but it will be irresponsible to put the bench mark at $38 when as at today bonny light is trading under $32
https://www.quandl.com/data/OPEC/ORB-OPEC-Crude-Oil-Price

tuale4u:
Oil price predictions are unreliable. Go and check what was their prediction for oil price for 2016 as at 2014?
As at January 2015, nobody predicted oil price to be as low as $35 in December 2015. Currently oil price has risen to $38 in the last 3 days.
oil price is very volatile an unpredictable.

Some are predicting higher price in 2016 while others are predicting lower price. nobody knows for sure. oil price can rise to $50 by march 2016 or fall to $20 by march 2016. anything can happen. let watch and see.

You are funny.

You claim oil prices can't be predicted so on what basis is the $38 bench mark drawn from? Don't tell me they just guessed as well?

Have you forgotten Shale and US exports? The US will be exporting and not importing from you anymore. Saudi will keep pumping to hurt Iran's economy the same way the US wants to destroy the Russian economy by entering the energy export market.

Try and put the puzzle pieces together and see the picture.

tuale4u:
Yeah I agree with you it is a risky budget.
however, it will be a wise way to prevent recession with the hope that oil price will rise by 2017.
most prediction believe that the current supply glut will ease out towards third quarter of 2016.

The prediction is for $20 top and is expected to last for the next 7 yrs.


Your famine begins now

tuale4u:
All these you are saying are just academic with no useful value to the average Nigerian masses at the moment.
I agree if I was a PDP sympathizer or member like you, I will feel the same way u may be feeling right now emotionally.
But we both know, your position is not in the interest of Nigeria.

However in trying to be just or do justice does not mean wisdom will be thrown away into the gutter.

How much do you think can be recovered today if one goes into probing Shagari govt of 1979?
Most of the witnesses to the case would have been death by now.
how long do you think it will take to try that case today?

Emotionally you make sense to an average PDP members.
Objectively, you are not making sense to an average Nigerian masses.

You mean there is no room for logical and well researched arguments?

The Buhari regime is appealing to the average lagosian mob sensibilities.

The masses in the sw are irresponsible to think Abuja is the reason for all their suffering forgetting the massive corruption perpetuated in your region by that canker worm Tinubu.


Buhari is doing what he did in 1984.

He is using corruption to justify taken power.

He used anti-corruption to silence an jail the political class.
The plebs jubilated because they have a phd mentality.

He went for the press just as he is doing with the social media and press bill.

Aft that there was no one to challenge his maxim regime


It took only a brutal coup to remove him.


Slowly and surely you are making him a despot and eroding you democracy.

This is exactly how Hitler transformed himself to supreme ruler under a democracy.

It is de javu and not change!