Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 8:57pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Anas09: Get your head out of the Kaaba for a minute maybe you can think less of sex, and be reasonable. And think of praying forever in a supposed sweet place right? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 8:53pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Anas09: Hahahahahahahahahahaha. My o my. Muslims and sex.
Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1 , 14 ). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”
During His trial before the Jewish leaders, the High Priest demanded of Jesus, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God” ( Matthew 26:63 ). “’Yes, it is as you say,’ Jesus replied. ‘But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven’” (Matthew 26:64 ). The Jewish leaders responded by accusing Jesus of blasphemy ( Matthew 26:65-66 ). Later, before Pontius Pilate, “The Jews insisted, ‘We have a law, and according to that law He must die, because He claimed to be the Son of God’” ( John 19:7 ). Why would His claiming to be the Son of God be considered blasphemy and be worthy of a death sentence? The Jewish leaders understood exactly what Jesus meant by the phrase “Son of God.” To be the Son of God is to be of the same nature as God. The Son of God is “of God.” The claim to be of the same nature as God—to in fact be God—was blasphemy to the Jewish leaders; therefore, they demanded Jesus’ death, in keeping with Leviticus 24:15 . Hebrews 1:3 expresses this very clearly, “The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being.” Another example can be found in John 17:12 where Judas is described as the “ son of perdition .” John 6:71 tells us that Judas was the son of Simon. What does John 17:12 mean by describing Judas as the “son of perdition”? The word perdition means “destruction, ruin, waste.” Judas was not the literal son of “ruin, destruction, and waste,” but those things were the identity of Judas' life. Judas was a manifestation of perdition. In this same way, Jesus is the Son of God. The Son of God is God. Jesus is God made manifest (John 1:1 , 14 ). Am done. Now my turn. Wait first. Does that mean that the verse I quoted was an invention by man and not actually in the bible? Cos I checked this post over and over again but I couldn't find a reasonable answer. I'm not interested in the drama between Jesus and the jews. Afterall you people are not even sure whether he was really god or the son of god. If I should take your explanation, what about that word 'begotten'? Should I simply discard it? If you have no answer, you are free to bring yours |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by APCsupporter: 8:43pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
dueal: I have evidence for that. If you don't know whether or not your prophet penned down the Quran or was available to give guidance on the writings, then how can you boldly claim that your Quran is not corrupt and the Injil is? This is where being reasonable should apply...dont you think? The Qur'an was never changed after the death of the prophet because Allah Himself promised to protect it and that has been accepted by both Muslims and non-muslims. Several attempts were made to change some things in the Qur'an but all of them were futile. I don't know what else to tell you cos I was not alive 1400 years ago. The bible on the other hand has a lot of contradictions and different versions |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by APCsupporter: 7:37pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
dueal: Your evidence that he was alive when this took place is? Show me the evidence that your great grand father existed. Please let's be reasonable |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by APCsupporter: 7:35pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by APCsupporter: 6:56pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
dueal: The evidence is in this question.
WHO WROTE THE QURAN?
ALLAH, MOHAMMED, OR HIS RECITERS AFTER HE DIED? His companions but under his strict supervision. I think the word "record" would be better to use |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by APCsupporter: 6:19pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
dueal: When you say the Injil is corrupted where do you find your standard to make that conclusion? The Quran?
What makes the Quran incorruptible? That it was not written by Mohammed or that it did not fall from the heavens?
Quran is corrupt. Present to me any different version of the Qur'an |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Jesus Die For Our Sins? by APCsupporter: 5:21pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Jesus Die For Our Sins? by APCsupporter: 4:46pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
4everGod1: Is the Best Allah has to offer you for your servitude towards him while on earth wine and loads of "virgins"? Is this all you have to look forward to? On earth Mohammed had a penchant for everything Sex and He documented these in the Quran and claimed Allah gave him the revelation so in essence his Allah also had a penchant for everything sexual. Is this the core lack in Islam that Allah aims to fill in Islams Heaven? Aside praying what do you do in ur heaven? Your god himself is a great fan of konji cos he rraped his daughter Mary. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Jesus Die For Our Sins? by APCsupporter: 4:44pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
felixomor: And what will u say of the person who believes seventy virgins are waiting for him when he dies, in paradise?  What's so bad about it? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by APCsupporter: 4:19pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Babacele: Mr Abdulgaffar, can you please quote the first 10 lines of the Surat on prophet Isa(PBUH) verbatim, directly from the Quran? from the title of the chapter or Surat ,including the message of Angel Jibrin to Mary ? verbatim please. thanks. What? Both the Injil (though corrupted) and the Qur'an are from Allah so what do you want? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seriously, Every1 Needs To B Here And Answer Dis.. Muslims, Athiests, Christians by APCsupporter: 4:08pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Smallville10: haahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... D madness from ur fathers is d garment dat clothes u... Please show me where in d bible did God rape a lady or maybe its in your quran that fell from heaven abi? I posted the topic here on NL |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 3:08pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
truthmans2012: Doesn't the Quran talk of virgin birth of Jesus? Did allah rape Mary?
You said God raped mother of Jesus, is that about Sonship of Jesus? Why do you move from pillar to pole? If you have nothing to refute the OP, please leave the stage.
The truth remains, moon could not be splitted and noticed only in Saudi Arabia. It was supposed to be a universal occurrence. You are confused. We accept that Mary gave birth to Jesus as a virgin but Allah never had sex with her and jesus was not his son. The bible on the other hand, suggests that god begot( gave birth using sexual intercourse) jesus using mary. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 2:44pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
truthmans2012: Quran also said Jesus was born by a virgin, did allah rape? The Qur'an doesn't claim that Jesus was a son of Allah talkless of being the begotten son of Allah. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 2:43pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
truthmans2012: Yes.
Quran confirms Jesus did miracles, were all the sick in the land (Israel) healed? Where is your scientific evidence? I don't want you to refer to me to the Qur'an. Besides don't your pastors perform miracles? I need a scientific evidence |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 2:39pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Anas09: Lets take it one after the other. You prove my God raped a woman, i prove your god died with an errection. Agreed?
Now you first, because i asked first.
From scriptures, prove my God raped a woman. 1 2,3, goo. Very good. John 3:16King James Version (KJV) says: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. What is the meaning of beget? 1.(especially of a man) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction. 2.cause; bring about. That verse implies that your god had sex with mary to give birth to jesus. He did that without asking her for any permission. What if she didn't like it? How can you just impregnate a woman just like that? Before you ask me about the second meaning, keep in mind that the bible said ONLY begotten son. Your god created us all but jesus was his only begotten son. I'm done |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seriously, Every1 Needs To B Here And Answer Dis.. Muslims, Athiests, Christians by APCsupporter: 2:29pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Smallville10: so saith u but let me tell u dat ur mohahmmed fvcked pass him oga wey u call 'allah'... Or dont u know dat ur prophet has a thing for small small girl; no wonder konji kill am Is fvcking a small girl not better? Your god rraped and impregnated a mere human to give birth to his son. He also killed that son for our sins, meaning that anyone can sin and still go to heaven. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 2:25pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
truthmans2012: What is pure in mecca? A land that is full of danger. Hardly would people go on pilgrimage there without casualties. Mecca like any other places is full of sinners. Only heaven is a holy place. Healing is about your faith in the healer. Be it unto you according to your faith, so Jesus said. So you mean 99/100 of people have no faith in the "healers"? What a joke  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 2:24pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Anas09: Oh yes, here is a good muslim who can tell us why muhammed died but his Peni.s did not die wirh him. Go ahead tell us good muslim. I ask, why did your god rrape a mere mortal to give birth to his son? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Atheists Can Be Proven Wrong! by APCsupporter: 2:20pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
We are waiting |
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Cleric Beats Up Pastor, Threatens To Pour Acid On Him by APCsupporter: 1:58pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Provide your source first.
Cc: lalasticlala |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God? by APCsupporter: 1:56pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Wll done abdulgaffar22. I'm impressed by this. So far non of them has been able to provide answers for all of those questions you asked in this thread and the other ones. May Allah reward you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seriously, Every1 Needs To B Here And Answer Dis.. Muslims, Athiests, Christians by APCsupporter: 1:47pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
No its not. But its confirmed that yahweh fvcked mary (in fact rraped her) to give birth to jesus. Its the bible that said this and not me |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Jesus Die For Our Sins? by APCsupporter: 1:19pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Abdulgaffar22: Christians believe that Jesus died for our sins: yet Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20-22, Jeremiah 31:30,2nd Chronicles 25:4, 2nd Kings 14:6 and Exodus 32:30-33 established that the person that commits sin is the one who will die. Even logically, this very doctrine cannot be true because telling the believers that they will no longer be held responsible for all their sins since one innocent man has already been held responsible on their behalf seems to imply that they are now free to commit sins in as much as they believe in this substitutionary atonement sacrifice. Whereas telling the believers that, unless they repent sincerely by turning from their sinful ways, they themselves will be held responsible for their sins would make them think twice before committing any sin. Of course the latter is more logical and reasonable than the former. They are simply confused. Do you know that they are arguing within themselves about whether Jesus is God or the son of God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: African Magic Or Miracle At Mercy Land Today!!! by APCsupporter: 1:04pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Lol. Please where do pastors get the kind of charms they use on their followers. I can't believe an educated person who watches movies like the op here believed it. Op you have been decieved. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 12:52pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
truthmans2012: If Muhammad split the moon, would it affect them only in Mecca? Would other parts of the world not witness it? Its because it is a pure land. Before you criticize me, When we ask you about selective healings you tell us that its due to the sins of the affected people. So watch it  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, What are your views On Pornography And Masturbation? by APCsupporter: 12:47pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Eddlad: Do u feel like sleeping with your kids(if any) or your sister if you see her unclothed? Your sheer hatred for Christianity isn't helping here. Think a bit more fairly if u are thinking at all.(addressed to the first part of your post)
You claim Christians watch porn, what makes them Christians if they fail to follow the scriptures? Tell me.
I believe op asked what your view was, consider answering this as if Christianity didn't exist, shouldn't be too hard since atheist is all about disproving God's existence. Why call terrosists Muslims then? Can you see your hypocrisy? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 12:39pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
truthmans2012: I have given you proof, read them up there. Maybe you omitted something cos I don't understand that post |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 12:38pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
truthmans2012: Are you a muslim or an atheist ? I'm a good Muslim and I believe in all that I mentioned but you, a christian, asking for scientific proof is pure hypocrisy |
Christianity Etc › Re: Former Rapper-gangster Snoop Doggy Dogg Bows Down To Allah. by APCsupporter: 12:36pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
ifenes: To appease the Muslim fans of course. In the age of social media, anything goes. I doubt snoop really thinks highly of Islam. But if the reverse was the case you would have been promising someone who is not even your God. @topic I'm happy but snoop dogg is very unstable. Anyway may Allah guide him |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 12:14pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
Christians only use their head when they are judging other religions. I like the fact that you are asking these questions. I agree that we have no proof. Oya provide yours let's see  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by APCsupporter: 12:09pm On Oct 07, 2016 |
truthmans2012: The Qur'an and Hadith claim that the moon was miraculously split into two pieces and then, presumably, put back together again. There is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever that the moon has ever been split into two. Since the moon is visible to half the planet at any given time, we should expect to see numerous accounts from different parts of the world attesting to this event if it actually happened. The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, Chinese and Indians had avid astronomers who should have seen this event and recorded it in their histories. The absence of historical record from other civilizations, contemporary to Muhammad, is a strong indication that this event never happened. Where is your scientific proof that the red sea was divided? Where is your scientific proof that mary gave birth to jesus without a man? Where is your scientific proof that in fact God exist? Where is your scientific proof that a blind man can be healed without anything physical at all? Where is your scientific proof that holy spirits exist? Don't be a hypocrite |