I vote Rokiatu

Insight full thread. Being reading and studying along offline.

Last convention was a blessing reading n participating.


I nominate

trustman
Markmiwerds.

Glory to God. Thank God for the OP.

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Cast the 'first' stone if you have not sinned today!

Cast the 'first' stone if you have never sinned!

petres_007: The mosaic laws do not apply. Jesus raised the standards higher than the natural man can ever hope to comprehend - www.acts1711daily.com/2013/05/09/dealing-with-enemies-the-christian-perspective/

great article brother Peter.a must read by Nigeria christians

OLAADEGBU:

"Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you" (Hebrew 13:17).

Is this verse really necessary in the Bible or is it there for a reason?

yes it is really necessary n very im,portant also.what happens when those who have rule over u teach something out of greed or error or deliberate misleading for their own gain?should such still be obeyed or d word of truth should b obeyed rather than those who have rule over us?which one sir?

OLAADEGBU:

There is no need for you to be truculent. Spiritual rebels are those who are no longer under authority. Are you under authority? Who are you responsible to, Pastor Kun?

what can b more than a christian being under the authority of christ as being LORD n SAVIOR?

OLAADEGBU:

Don't be supercilious. Can you enlighten us what the simile in this context means?

sir.i hv told u am not an english person.pls dont speak big grammmer to me pls but i understand basics.i hv highlighted the simile for u above "is as".u can also read other versions if u like.for instance,christ is the end of d law is not the same as christ is as the end of d law or christ is like d end of d law.one is definite n d other is simile for comparison.d same is d grammatical context of rebellion is as or is like d sin sin of witchcaft.it does not say rebellion is witchcraft.that will be definite statement 2 make sir.God bless u sir.

y are christians always creating laws for themselves?whhich law says we can or you cannot leave before,during,after,or whenever there's need to do so?what is all dis legalism about?

OLAADEGBU:

They are equal in the sight of God and the more reason why we shouldn't be contumacious.

(1 Samuel 15:23)

sir.am highly disappointed in u sir.this is simple english basic."is as" or "is like" is not d same thing as "it is" or equal to etc.dats a simple simile used in that verse sir.God bless.

Segeggs: it's thesame gospel gangsters that will tell yot to lay up your treasures in heaven.

OLAADEGBU:

What's the difference? Spiritual anarchism is just as bad as witchcraft.

sir.am not an english student but i understand basic.my question is simple n u dont hv to answer question with question.my question is is withcraft n rebellion.are both d same or the verse u used compared both?thank u sir

OLAADEGBU:

Don't be a spiritual anarchist. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.

hello sir.is rebellion the same as witchcraft or dat was a simile?thanks for d answer sir.

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.Most Nigeria churches are found of killing witches and apply exodus22.18.does this apply to christainity after the cross and resurrection of christ with the new covenant?

Drummerboy, God bless u so much.u are truly grounded in d word of truth.

That weavon, attachments n makeups will not take one to heaven is complete rubbish n not d gospel of Christ but Judaism.even in Judaism, such things do not exist.y are pple making Christianity difficult n making Judaism out of Christianity?please read acts15 n see d ministry of d holy spirit thru d apostles that gentiles Christians are not required to keep d Moses law n they should abstain from food offered to idols n from se.xual sins. That's all.

Anything added to this is legalism n going back to Judaism n d book of Galatians says such person is cursed.stand in d freedom Christ had made u free only don't use your freedom in Christ for immorality. Read Romans n Galatians.as for those who say dey go heaven n come back, such claims is against d word of god.no one has seen d father but he that is from above hv revealed d father.the word of god written is enough to teach d truth of a matter not until wen someone claims special revelation from heaven, it's colossians heresy.what did Christ said when d rich man requested to go tell his brethren?what did Paul said about even if it is angel from heaven dat bring another gospel other Dan what is already preached?yet pple claim to come with another message from heaven.dats nonsense.

Sincere Bigot: then what does john 13:34 say about commandments

d judaizers dont aggree that a new commandment had replaced the old existing ones.i love christ n the word of god.

why are some christians still advancing the religion of judaism that was already done away in christ? Galatians 1:14

some christians still think christianity only "added jesus" to judaism while retaining all or some of the law requirements and works. this means such people are not saved for christ is the end of the law, Romans 10:4. when you are in christ, the mosaic law had ended for such. think about Romans 10:4 n allow the spirit of god to minister to you.

Romans 10:4 refers to christ as "the end of the law," which is similar to Paul's statement that believers are no longer "under the law" (Rm 6:14). Christians do not relate to God through the old covenant God made with Israel at Mt. Sinai through Moses, but through the new covenant He made at the cross through Christ's blood (Jer 31:31-34; Lk 22:20; Heb 8:8-12).

Lolz at this thread but it's true. Imagine Jesus Christ, PhD.

frosbel:

Because Tithing is going back under the Law.

"For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." - Galatians 3:10

I hope your judaizer frds on dis forum will understand this truth one day.keep d fire burnin

you don't need miracles to validate the truth, you need the word.sanctify th hem by your word, your word is truth.

DrummaBoy: To conclude my submission for the moment:

The chief error of the Word of Faith moment is their penchant to confuse Law with grace. What however one discovers is that the proponents of these teaching subscribe only to those aspect of the law that benefit them and their ministries. Eg, the fact that Abraham was wealthy and so every man of faith must be wealthy; subscription to tithe and firstfruit paying; re-enacting the levithical priesthood and undermining the priesthood of all believers; and lately even re-course to wearing priestly garments. Parts of the law like keeping the Sabbath, taking care of widows, orphans and poor, that do not profit them, they discard.

And with all due respect, Disciples of these false teachers on NL are the like of the OP - ihedinobi, Bidam, Alwaystrue, danfo, MostHigh and a legion of others I call neo-Judaizers. One of their major Xtics is their pride and unteachableness; not to talk of their penchant to twist scriptures and argue without end...

Grace changes everything. If the neo-judaizaers understand what this means, they would not have mixed with the law of moses neither would they have crucified the lord of glory again. Gal. 2:21

anukulapo: I tire for this thread abeg.

I no know how e dey for some people to reason say "masturbation" na sin and them no think say having se.x with a spouse-to-be is fornication; tryna show us some greek/hebrew text.

Straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Mtchewww.

Abeg, make una close this thread make everybody hold on to their belief.

Too much false teachings and error messages posted already.

ATTN: GOSHEN and disciples

anukulapo: I tire for this thread abeg.

I no know how e dey for some people to reason say "masturbation" na sin and them no think say having se.x with a spouse-to-be is fornication; tryna show us some greek/hebrew text.

Straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Mtchewww.

Abeg, make una close this thread make everybody hold on to their belief.

Too much false teachings and error messages posted already.

ATTN: GOSHEN and disciples

i have been reading comments here since the beginning of this thread goshen was called out and finding it very hard to accept what he is saying thought and undesrand clearly his claer far different view from okeyxyx's view. okeyxyx view sounds more like or is actually a pervertion against the new man of believer in christ because a new in christ carries a new nature. All be it, your comment above is the most senseless of all comments here ever made. goshen said what he said based on his understanding. does that mean he is right or wrong? does that mean people should starting doing what he said? does that mean you should do follow-follow as you may do follow-follow to your pastor? when goshen said what he said and against self-service, doesn't that tell your unthinking head that self-service is UNNATURAL way of having sex? Did god created sex bewtween yourself and yourself? commons seense allows you to read that as an unnatural way of sex including homo and lesbby. This is the way some of your christians go about with bitterness and hatred in your hearts and amounts to murder. The apostles gave instructions on acts 15 and said disciples should ABSTAIN from meat offered to idols and from fornications which is also translated as sex sins or s.exual immorality in other translations but the same apostle paul says one 'by his knowledge' do eat meat offered to idols because when he eats he didnt eat with though is offer to idol and dont see idol in the meat but the knowledge if it will then make a weak one for whom christ died it should be avioded not the eating meat that is eaten by the knowledgable christian. raed the whole of 1cor.chapter 8and9. peace.

goshen, liek i said before, the only error you have is casting your words before some weak christians especially on a public forum. it is not what you believe but you believe by what you know and from your knowledge, you dont see fornication as what you claerly spell out but another doesn't see it that way.therefore, get yourself out of your knowledge especially where it might become a stumbling block to weak christians esp. on forum and www like this.some will understand what you said even when it is claerly said and start to act out of what is said while others will attack your person without traeting the topic itself. i am not a goshen fan nor goshen disciples but i only listen to other people view and reason with them and dont call me dat name goshen disciple and who is goshen by the way? is he christ that died for you?

Pygru:
A child
Smh at some nairalanders.
you don't know me.
I think I have to leave the politics section and focus on the religion section.
This section needs a revolution
False teachers and prophets must be forced into exile

blackpot calling another pot black.none righteous no not one. as if your have forced the false prophets in your church out of business.who cares to know u?this is a faceless forum and anybody can say anything.grow up and stop being a child.you too can sincerely teach error,t=hen whose false?who's false?who's fault?the spirit of god in you if yu ever hv any?all your post smells slanderings and dats not the spirit of christ because u opened a post calling people names like sexkillz and you saying senseless things.do yu hv a job at all or your wan to be a political thief?go grow up.amen

i think the error of goshen is that he knows but should have kept it to himself.not everyone can stand this type of sayings. maybe u need need to mature at before you say somethings or just keep it to yourself.so hel p you god

Pygru:
bro I am not infallible but the bible is.
Someone like Ijawkid (JW), will tell you that heaven is already filled, (144,000 saints) and that they (Ijawkid & JW) will inherit the world (all the beautiful houses) .
He will also tell You there is no hell.

yu are a child and when you grow to be a man you will put away childish things

thorpido: Are u seeking knowledge or are u just displaying ignorance.Don't tell me your knowledge even in this generation is not more than that of Nicodemus.
Jesus said,'If I have spoken to you of earthly things and ye believe not,how shall ye believe if I speak to you of heavenly things'.

You asking this question shows u are a 'nepios'!

Thank u