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Ask AC: Is Android Linux?
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By Jerry Hildenbrand | Nov 08 2012 | 7:57 pm | 38 Comments

While trawling through the Internet today I came across the Linux Foundation's page, and my eyes were pulled to their top story. Now this is nothing new, I often find plenty of great articles and news to read there, but this was different. This was a post that was about Android.
It got me thinking (sometimes I do that) -- is Android Linux? The folks at the Linux Foundation seem to think so (and seem awfully happy about it), and I'm going to have to agree with them. Now before you purists come to West Virginia to beat some sense into me, I'm not saying that Android is unadulterated GNU Linux. Clearly it's not, there's far too many differences and psudeo-open source licensing at play to call it pure. But for all intents and purposes, it's close enough.
Android now runs on top of a standard Linux kernel, and uses many of the same kernelspace utilities and code that my desktop does. Essentially, that's what Linux is -- the heart of many different systems. Google, and the Android partners like Samsung, HTC, and CyanogenMod, then build things out to present the user with an interface to interact with the kernel. The kernel does stuff, all our taps and swipes and presses are telling it the stuff we want it to do. Just like any of the popular Linux distributions that you can install on your computer at home or work.
Android looks and acts a little different because it needs to look and act a little different to be useful on a small touch screen device. Of course, this is the simplified version of things, but if you're the type who understands how the kernelspace and userspace interact, you see where I'm coming from. Too much nerd is often too much.
So the next time you grab your Android-powered phone or tablet, just remember that you're part of the long standing tradition that is Linux. It's a good place to be.



As you can probably tell from my icon and previous postings, I am very much "into" Linux. I use it on hundreds of different systems at home and work and have been using and administering Unix/Linux systems for 25 years. I have taught college level Unix/Linux courses, and I am one of the founding members of a very long-term Unix/Linux user's group.
I do think of Android as Linux, and I call it "Android Linux". No, it is not what you typically think of when you say "Linux"- it has proprietary parts, doesn't use X11, Android apps don't run natively under traditional Linux desktops (unfortunately), and isn't developed completely by the community. But it is the Linux kernel and uses lots of GNU parts to make it work. Think of it as another Linux distro, just built for a specific set of purposes, just like there are distros for embedded systems that might not contain X11 or all the traditional set of Linux/Unix features.
The same argument can be said for "is Linux Unix?" My answer- "yes", it is a "unix" although not "UNIX". In many ways it is identical- it is POSIX compliant, it is designed under the same principles, it acts the same, it's GUI is primarily X11, it can replace UNIX in just about every way, it can even run some cross-platform Unix binaries. But it doesn't contain the "UNIX" source code (despite what SCO seemed to think) or license the name. Nor has anyone paid for it to pass the X/Open tests for the name "UNIX". If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck... is it a duck?

Leopantro: Sorry if I sound condescending. It doesn't run on Linux OS. Android is a Linux-based
operating system designed
primarily for mobile phones. If you look in the root folder of android and that of a Linux live CD you would see similar files. Even the kernel is similar. However thats where it ends. Both google and apple (based on Unix) took Linux and redesigned it to suit their needs.
So you can say it looks like a duck and walks like a duck but its not a duck.
The ubuntu touch phone coming out this year runs on Linux OS

Well thank you sir. If you read my originating post again you will observe that my language was ' strictly speaking......' you have just said it, it is Linux based, as a matter of fact it as an offshoot of Linux. The Ubuntu is Linux as we know it but with tweaks in it. You may well talk about the magnitude of tweak, that is another issue altogether. Thank you very much though.

Leopantro: No son, no. Sit down and be still. Ignorance can be contagious

Well, well, well, what do you know. Why don't you educate me since you appear to have a handle on Androids and we'll find out who knows what.We must always humble ourselves to learn.

With due respect sir, i suggest you read your originating post. The thrust of your post is the mobile market as a whole. There is no doubt that as far as market share figures show Nokia has been slow on the uptake in the smart phone SEGMENT OF THE MOBILE PHONE MARKET.
I am just curious as to what market Intel informs your conclusion. As for cheaper phones i suggest you spend some time in a marketing 101 class and you will understand that it does not quite pan out as you have intimated. People buy items, not just phones for different reasons.There are quite a few people who wouldn't be caught dead with a Tecno phone.

Let us Put this Nokia situation in perspective. The mobile phone market share figures announced by Reuters on 14 may 2013 show Samsung as market leader with 23.6%, Nokia second with 14.9%, Apple next with 9% and the rest follow.When Nokia was market leader a while back it had 19.7% share of the market.
I am sure that the current Nokia situation is not what their executives would like but it hardly spells the end of Nokia as a mobile phone manufacturer and distributor.I am not a Nokia apologist but i am not one for misrepresenting situations either. The recent increase in sales of Nokia windows 8 phones deserves mention too.

Usage share of operating systems
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Desktop Operating System statistics on Net Applications

Windows 7
  44.72%
Windows XP
  38.31%
OS X
  6.99%
Windows Vista
  4.75%
Windows 8
  3.82%
Linux
  1.21%
Other   1.99%

Desktop OS Market Share as of April 2013 Net Applications[1]

Mobile Operating System statistics on Net Applications

iOS
  59.04%
Android
  26.02%
Java ME
  9.62%
Symbian
  1.73%
BlackBerry
  1.51%
Windows Phone
  1.14%
Other   0.24%

Mobile OS Market Share as of April 2013 Net Applications[1]

WHO WAS IT THAT DESCRIBED WINDOWS AS A DEAD OPERATING SYSTEM?

Strictly speaking the Android is not really an Operating System as Androids generally use the Linux OS.

I have said this a few times most people on this forum sing the praises of the Android OS because it has become fashionable to do so or at least that is what they think. The Android has its strengths and weaknesses and so does the Windows 8. You must put each phone through its paces as it were before drawing conclusions. Windows as an operating system however is still the most dominant operating system in the world by miles. I do not mean just for mobile gizmos. I mean looking at Operating Systems for all gizmos.

Microsoft Windows: 10 Reasons This Operating System Still Matters














News Analysis: Google Android and Apple's iOS and Mac OS X may get all the attention, but it's Microsoft Windows that still matters the most. The latest version, Windows 8, is already in development.
Looking around the operating system industry right now, IT professionals and everyday consumers will find a host of platforms from which to choose. Linux and Apple's Mac OS X are favorites among some on desktop and laptop users, while Google's Android and that other Apple operating system-iOS-are scoring major points with mobile customers interested in tablets and smartphones.
However, when it comes to operating systems, it's Microsoft's Windows that people know best of all.
It's for good reason.

Windows has long been the most dominant operating system in the world. Microsoft's latest release, Windows 7, is helping to keep that going, and the software giant already has its eyes set on all sorts of form factors, including tablets, with Windows 8, which is being previewed for developers at the BUILD conference all this week. At this point in the product's lifecycle, it appears that Windows is still very much at the top of its game. And the chances of it losing steam anytime soon seem slim.
And yet, it receives far less attention than it should. Android and iOS are all the rage right now, thanks to the growing demand for both smartphones and tablets. There are even some analysts who believe Chrome OS, Google's other operating system, could eventually make a significant dent in Windows' market share. But all this fails to realize the importance of Windows, and the fact that, like it or not, it's still the most important software platform in the world.
Here are 10 reasons why Microsoft Windows still matters and why the operating system will continue its dominance within the tech world.
1. It's the way the enterprise wants it
Microsoft's power in the operating system market is only possible because of the enterprise. All over the world, companies are deploying Windows computers, and in the process, making their employees more comfortable with the operating system. So when those employees go home, they buy Windows PCs, as well. Until any other operating system can work its way into the corporate world, there will be no stopping Windows.
2. Look at the installed base
It's hard to find any other operating system that matters more than Windows if one considers the sheer number of people who use Microsoft's operating system around the world. Although it's difficult to pinpoint an exact number of people who use Windows, consider that, according to data from NetMarketShare, Windows has 86.58 percent OS market share. Mac OS X comes in at 5.62 percent, followed by iOS with 3.38 percent. Android has 1.02 percent share, according to the firm. If that doesn't say everything about Windows, what does?
3. No other OS can come close in usability
Android and iOS are undoubtedly the top platforms in the mobile space, but when it comes to comparing them to Windows, there's no contest. Windows is simply the most usable and capable operating system on the market, beating all mobile platforms, as well as Mac OS X and Linux. And with Windows 7 Ultimate, offering a virtual version of Windows XP, it's hard to find many products that won't work with it.

4. Mobile operating systems mean little
Mobile operating systems are important, for sure. But in the grand scheme of things, they mean very little in the operating system space. As noted, Android and iOS are trailing far behind Windows in total market share, even though they're dominating the mobile space. When looking at the industry on a macro level, mobile operating systems mean very little, compared with Windows.
5. It drives the world

Try to imagine a world without Windows. It's quite difficult. The operating system powers just about everything that consumers, enterprise users and government organizations need to run all aspects of the world. No other operating system, including Mac OS X, Android or Linux can cite that as one of their key strengths. And until all those many stakeholders see no value in Windows, there will be no way for other platforms to become more important.
6. Developers need it
Much has been made about developers flocking to mobile operating systems. And that's certainly the case. But Windows is still the most important platform for any software developer or peripheral maker. If their products don't support the operating system, they won't sell well. It's as simple as that, and why every major company and small firm must consider Windows before they make any decisions on future products. No other operating system has that luxury.
7. It's big money
So far, iOS, Android and even Mac OS X haven't done a whole lot to drive significant revenue gains for their respective makers. Sure, iOS is central to the iPhone's success, and Android is helping mobile-device makers with their bottom lines, but Windows is, in and of itself, a cash cow for Microsoft. Customers all over the globe are dropping hundreds of dollars for a new version of the operating system. PC vendors are paying Microsoft boatloads of cash just to bundle the software on their products. Simply put, Windows is big money. And in today's world, big money is still king.
8. It will determine the fate of future platforms
As of late, there has been quite a bit of talk surrounding Chrome OS, Google's cloud-based operating system. The operating system, which was launched earlier this year to take on Windows, is being called by some, a future Windows killer. However, these analysts fail to realize that the only way that can happen is if Microsoft changes its own strategy. See, Windows affects the direction of the operating system market, not the other way around. So, while Google is trying to push customers to the cloud, Microsoft's gravitational pull is keeping them offline and within the traditional PC model. If Windows stays offline, that won't change. But if Windows heads to the cloud, anything can happen. Like it or not, Windows determines the fate of all its competitors.
9. It's the go-to platform in emerging markets
It's easy to think about how the OS market is changing in mature markets, such as the U.S. or Western Europe, but in emerging markets, Windows is still the only go-to platform for folks. And it just so happens that technology adoption in those countries, especially PC purchasing, is higher than anywhere around the world. Considering that, it doesn't appear Windows will lose any steam anytime soon.
10. Consumers still care
When thinking about Windows' position in the marketplace, more than anything else, it's a good idea to think about consumers. Sure, some of them are buying Android and iOS handsets, and they're warming to the idea of acquiring Macs, but by and large, they're still flocking to Windows in record numbers. Windows Vista might have caused some to wonder about the operating system's future, but Windows 7 has made it abundantly clear that it's still just as important to consumers as it was a decade ago.




Don Reisinger is a freelance technology columnist. He started writing about technology for Ziff-Davis' Gearlog.com. Since then, he has written extremely popular columns for CNET.com, Computerworld, InformationWeek, and others. He has appeared numerous times on national television to share his expertise with viewers. You can follow his every move at http://twitter.com/donreisinger.

[quote author=amAZEing]dead network on a dead operating system delivering a stinkingly dead data plan.
Dead operating system? Educate yourself.

apparition: For those of you who do not understand the strength and dominance of Microsoft windows i suggest you you educate yourselves .

Please excuse the printer's devil.

For those of you who do not understand the strength and dominance of Microsoft windows i suggest you you educate yourselves .

4. Mobile operating systems mean little
Mobile operating systems are important, for sure. But in the grand scheme of things, they mean very little in the operating system space. As noted, Android and iOS are trailing far behind Windows in total market share, even though they're dominating the mobile space. When looking at the industry on a macro level, mobile operating systems mean very little, compared with Windows.
5. It drives the world

Try to imagine a world without Windows. It's quite difficult. The operating system powers just about everything that consumers, enterprise users and government organizations need to run all aspects of the world. No other operating system, including Mac OS X, Android or Linux can cite that as one of their key strengths. And until all those many stakeholders see no value in Windows, there will be no way for other platforms to become more important.
6. Developers need it
Much has been made about developers flocking to mobile operating systems. And that's certainly the case. But Windows is still the most important platform for any software developer or peripheral maker. If their products don't support the operating system, they won't sell well. It's as simple as that, and why every major company and small firm must consider Windows before they make any decisions on future products. No other operating system has that luxury.
7. It's big money
So far, iOS, Android and even Mac OS X haven't done a whole lot to drive significant revenue gains for their respective makers. Sure, iOS is central to the iPhone's success, and Android is helping mobile-device makers with their bottom lines, but Windows is, in and of itself, a cash cow for Microsoft. Customers all over the globe are dropping hundreds of dollars for a new version of the operating system. PC vendors are paying Microsoft boatloads of cash just to bundle the software on their products. Simply put, Windows is big money. And in today's world, big money is still king.
8. It will determine the fate of future platforms
As of late, there has been quite a bit of talk surrounding Chrome OS, Google's cloud-based operating system. The operating system, which was launched earlier this year to take on Windows, is being called by some, a future Windows killer. However, these analysts fail to realize that the only way that can happen is if Microsoft changes its own strategy. See, Windows affects the direction of the operating system market, not the other way around. So, while Google is trying to push customers to the cloud, Microsoft's gravitational pull is keeping them offline and within the traditional PC model. If Windows stays offline, that won't change. But if Windows heads to the cloud, anything can happen. Like it or not, Windows determines the fate of all its competitors.
9. It's the go-to platform in emerging markets
It's easy to think about how the OS market is changing in mature markets, such as the U.S. or Western Europe, but in emerging markets, Windows is still the only go-to platform for folks. And it just so happens that technology adoption in those countries, especially PC purchasing, is higher than anywhere around the world. Considering that, it doesn't appear Windows will lose any steam anytime soon.
10. Consumers still care
When thinking about Windows' position in the marketplace, more than anything else, it's a good idea to think about consumers. Sure, some of them are buying Android and iOS handsets, and they're warming to the idea of acquiring Macs, but by and large, they're still flocking to Windows in record numbers. Windows Vista might have caused some to wonder about the operating system's future, but Windows 7 has made it abundantly clear that it's still just as important to consumers as it was a decade ago.




Don Reisinger is a freelance technology columnist. He started writing about technology for Ziff-Davis' Gearlog.com. Since then, he has written extremely popular columns for CNET.com, Computerworld, InformationWeek, and others. He has appeared numerous times on national television to share his expertise with viewers. You can follow his every move at http://twitter.com/donreisinger.

Microsoft Windows: 10 Reasons This Operating System Still Matters














News Analysis: Google Android and Apple's iOS and Mac OS X may get all the attention, but it's Microsoft Windows that still matters the most. The latest version, Windows 8, is already in development.
Looking around the operating system industry right now, IT professionals and everyday consumers will find a host of platforms from which to choose. Linux and Apple's Mac OS X are favorites among some on desktop and laptop users, while Google's Android and that other Apple operating system-iOS-are scoring major points with mobile customers interested in tablets and smartphones.
However, when it comes to operating systems, it's Microsoft's Windows that people know best of all.
It's for good reason.

Windows has long been the most dominant operating system in the world. Microsoft's latest release, Windows 7, is helping to keep that going, and the software giant already has its eyes set on all sorts of form factors, including tablets, with Windows 8, which is being previewed for developers at the BUILD conference all this week. At this point in the product's lifecycle, it appears that Windows is still very much at the top of its game. And the chances of it losing steam anytime soon seem slim.
And yet, it receives far less attention than it should. Android and iOS are all the rage right now, thanks to the growing demand for both smartphones and tablets. There are even some analysts who believe Chrome OS, Google's other operating system, could eventually make a significant dent in Windows' market share. But all this fails to realize the importance of Windows, and the fact that, like it or not, it's still the most important software platform in the world.
Here are 10 reasons why Microsoft Windows still matters and why the operating system will continue its dominance within the tech world.
1. It's the way the enterprise wants it
Microsoft's power in the operating system market is only possible because of the enterprise. All over the world, companies are deploying Windows computers, and in the process, making their employees more comfortable with the operating system. So when those employees go home, they buy Windows PCs, as well. Until any other operating system can work its way into the corporate world, there will be no stopping Windows.
2. Look at the installed base
It's hard to find any other operating system that matters more than Windows if one considers the sheer number of people who use Microsoft's operating system around the world. Although it's difficult to pinpoint an exact number of people who use Windows, consider that, according to data from NetMarketShare, Windows has 86.58 percent OS market share. Mac OS X comes in at 5.62 percent, followed by iOS with 3.38 percent. Android has 1.02 percent share, according to the firm. If that doesn't say everything about Windows, what does?
3. No other OS can come close in usability
Android and iOS are undoubtedly the top platforms in the mobile space, but when it comes to comparing them to Windows, there's no contest. Windows is simply the most usable and capable operating system on the market, beating all mobile platforms, as well as Mac OS X and Linux. And with Windows 7 Ultimate, offering a virtual version of Windows XP, it's hard to find many products that won't work with it.




Don Reisinger is a freelance technology columnist. He started writing about technology for Ziff-Davis' Gearlog.com. Since then, he has written extremely popular columns for CNET.com, Computerworld, InformationWeek, and others. He has appeared numerous times on national television to share his expertise with viewers. You can follow his every move at http://twitter.com/donreisinger.

What about Hauwei 4 Africa a windows 8 phone Did Microsoft pay them too?

Bawss1: Care to show us how Windows Phone 8 is a very boring OS or should readers dismiss this as another unfounded comment the likes of which are in the majority on this thread?

[quote author=Bawss1]I reckon it's one of those.

Godvilla
I suggest you read my post again. It's obvious that you do not have the foggiest idea what the post says. Android phones have their strengths as well as their weaknesses. Windows phones also have their strengths as well as their weaknesses. I suggest you do a like for like comparison then we can pick it up from there.

It is obvious that quite a few people who use phones use them because it is fashionable to do so. If any one of these guys have done a close like for like comparison between for example the windows 8 phones, say the lumia 920 and any of the jelly bean androids,they will observe that the difference between them boils down to how one defines user friendly.
I have used the androids from the gingerbread through the ice cream to jellybean, quite frankly i find the windows 8 more of what i want. Simply put if you are more of a games person then the android is for you. If you are more of the business oriented type the windows 8 is what you want. They all have their various strengths and weaknesses.

It is obvious that quite a few people who use phones use them because it is fashionable to do so. If any one of these guys have done a close like for like comparison between for example the windows 8 phones, say the lumia 920 and any of the jelly bean androids,they will observe that the difference between them boils down to how one defines user friendly.
I have used the androids from the gingerbread through the ice cream to jellybean, quite frankly i find the windows 8 more of what i want. Simply put if you are more of a games person then the android is for you. If you are more of the business oriented type the windows 8 is what you want. They all have their various strengths and weaknesses.

penticom
That's the n3 for you. it has a way of looking after itself.
I am off these androids they do not do it for me anymore

Great pic. Damn good phone.

The n3 is obviously better but my n3 completely unrooted itself deleting all the apps installed after rooting. It has a way of looking after itself. I am not sold on these androids anymore. Windows 8 is it.

windows 8 phones are it. Androids are for game freaks.

[quote author=Kamaye]The cheapest windows phone is huawei 4africa cheaper than lumia 520 just around 25k and it is windows 8.[/quote
Thanks buddy.

Hotdiamond: Nokia lumia 520. It should be around 28k. Cheapest windows phone 8 https://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/13/02/nokia-520-720-pics/gsmarena_001.jpg

Thanks my man.

Does anybody have any info on not very expensive windows 7.5 or 8 phones? I do not mind Chinese brands either. I am going off androids and may offer mine for sale shortly.
Thanks.