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Health / Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by AyodejiGB: 1:50pm On Jul 11, 2014
There is a lot of hatred for doctors. I want to give a simple scenario that applies to a center that has specialist clinics.
Mr A walks into the hospital but since he doesn't have a case note in the hospital, he goes to the general outpatients department where he is seen by a doctor who most llikely is a specialist or not the specialist he needs to see. He will see the health records, pay for consultation and have his BP, weight and other things taken. He then sees the doctor who then sends him with a consultation request on behalf of a consultant to the appropriate specialist clinic if he doesn't have an emergency condition. He then goes to the clinic where he will get an appointment. ( specialists are few in number mind you)
On the day of his appointment, he sees the health record staff, the nurse at the clinic and finally he sees the consultant. After clinical clerkship (history, physical examination and or basic tests ), the consultant has a working or firm diagnosis. The options generally open to the specialist are:
1. Counselling - won't go into details. U have to advice all patients and this depends on situation.
2. Admission for care and everything else will be done in the ward
3. Investigations: scope determined by the patient and doctor
4. Referral/ collaboration with another unit
5. Prescriptions /investigations and a follow up appointment.
The consultant has thus formulated the management plan as he is at the center of the care of Mr A.
When he now have different categories of health workers having leadership status there can be serious chaos. It is challenging enough when multiple consultant units are involved in a patients management. We just don't want to create more problems for patients
Health / Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by AyodejiGB: 1:21pm On Jul 11, 2014
Career paths differ for professionals in public service.
For doctors, there are 3 general paths.
1. A doctor can decide to join the ministry as a health officer and rise to the post of a director. He will have to attend courses and have postgraduate qualifications such as masters degrees for promotion.
2. A doctor can have a bias for non - clinical work such as basic medical sciences like human anatomy, physiology, biochemistry and go for PhD. He will end up on the preclinical arm of the medical school as a lecturer and will teach there.
Most doctors prefer seeing patients so there were salary incentives for doctors to have a career there. He can rise to be a professor, provost of the college of medicine, vice chancellor but cmd of a hospital is out. He has no official business there.
3. A doctor can go to the clinical side and specialise. He undergoes postgraduate training called residency which lasts between 6 and 8 years ( some finish early) and he becomes a fellow of a postgraduate college. He exits the program. He might be appointed as a consultant in a hospital which is a progression. A consultant is a legal position which means the patient is admitted under his care and he takes responsibility for the actions of his team. Major decisions are not taken without his permission. He gets his full pay from the hospital. But he cannot be a professor because he is not in academics. CMD is also doubtful in a teaching hospital.
3b. The consultant might want to be a lecturer. He cannot function as a clinician without seeing patients so hence the confusion. He applies to the university affiliated with the hospital he was appointed through his department for an appointment. If he is employed as a lecturer, he gets his salary as a lecturer from the university for teaching medical students, postgraduate doctors and coducting exams but he gets his clinical allowance which a normal lecturer does not have for patient care. He can rise to be a professor by virtue of research. All academic and professional appointments are open to him, including the cmd as he is in the clinical wing.
This is just an explanation
For everybody, your progress depends on whether you are in the academic field - professor, head of department or vice chancellor is open to you.
If you are providing a service that has no training or research associated with it career path is same with hospital consultants even though they r specialists.
There are a lot of phd holders in the administration of the university. They can't be vice chancellor's. I am not going to name disciplines but we have to have some perspective.

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Health / Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by AyodejiGB: 12:58pm On Jul 11, 2014
Career paths differ for professionals in public service.
For doctors, there are 3 general paths.
1. A doctor can decide to join the ministry as a health officer and rise to the post of a director. He will have to attend courses and have postgraduate qualifications such as masters degrees for promotion.
2. A doctor can have a bias for non - clinical work such as basic medical sciences like human anatomy, physiology, biochemistry and go for PhD. He will end up on the preclinical arm of the medical school as a lecturer and will teach there.
Most doctors prefer seeing patients so there were salary incentives for doctors to have a career there. He can rise to be a professor, provost of the college of medicine, vice chancellor but cmd of a hospital is out. He has no official business there.
3. A doctor can go to the clinical side and specialise. He undergoes postgraduate training called residency which lasts between 6 and 8 years ( some finish early) ecome fellows of their postgraduate college.
Health / Re: NMA Vs JOHESU Vs FG Vs Patients........ Why the hatred for doctors??? by AyodejiGB: 12:44pm On Jul 11, 2014
This is a response to someone who said doctors stroll in at 10am without any apology to see patients in the clinic. There is such a lack of understanding about how a government hospital runs and the frustrating bureaucracy that the doctor doesn't want.
I am a doctor and proud to be one.
In any hospital that admits patients, there are two general classes of patients: in - patients and outpatients. The same set of doctors attend to both. They will do a ward round ( for inpatients between 7.30am and 10am). The interns (or house officers start earlier). The medical officers or registrar's round starts after say 7.30am. When they leave depends on the number of patients, other activities such as senior registrars round, consultant round, specialist clinics or a clinical meeting. They will send some people to the clinic if they r running late and sometimes the round is finished after you close the clinic.
There is a call period that starts usually at 4pm but u have to finish your unit activity before leaving and u hand over difficult patients to the people on call.
I have worked in teaching hospitals and general hospitals in different regions on Nigeria.
The most junior officers and the delegated supervisor(s) stay behind until things r sorted out.
Call time is arranged and decision making is rigid. U know the limit of ur authority and u defer to ur superiors.
A doctor leaves as soon as he is free because u r under obligation to attend to patients even if u r off duty.
Doctors make mistakes but there us an audit process in known to most outsiders (public praise, private criticism). I work in a teaching hospital now and I know all doctors want to see patients promptly but we r hampered by the system.
We will soon ship wreck if we apply stupid changes without wholesome analysis of our health system and having an idea of our policy direction that's why the Primary Health Care is moribund like other areas.
The commonwealth or UK system that we base our health care system on has its challenges and the British make changes regularly. They have National Health Fund which caters for funding, social infrastructure is available.
The USA has a different system based on health insurance which has its challenges.(ObamaCare)
We cannot take selected portions of different systems (consultant status) and graft it into ours and not expect problems.
Please Google medical consultant with respect to the commonwealth, consultant nurse, consultant pharmacist. Wikipedia is helpful.

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Religion / Re: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by AyodejiGB: 11:15am On Jul 29, 2013
Everybody can speak in tongues
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
1st Corinthians 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. (Isaiah 28.11)

Acts 1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
These were the first people to be filled with the holy spirit and speak with tongues.
Acts And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they
were all with one accord in one place.
2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Pls check my post on the manifestation of the holy spirit. I will repeat the parts of acts for personal study.. Acts chapters 8, 10, 19v6

1st corinthians chapters is referring to the church of Corinth and it is stated there

1st Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
All epistles are for particular churches to help their spiritual growth

Now to settle this :
1st Corinthians 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

Here everyone in the church in Corinth were obviously speaking in tongues. Paul was giving directions on conduct inside the church. This continued till the end of the epistle to the Corinthians.(conduct of women in the church)
14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?

We must also remember that there was so much idolatry then so Christians must have a conduct that is holy and different from their communities. There were orgies and prostitutes dedicated to the Bacchus.
Religion / Re: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by AyodejiGB: 11:15am On Jul 29, 2013
Everybody can speak in tongues
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
1st Corinthians 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. (Isaiah 28.11)

Acts 1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
These were the first people to be filled with the holy spirit and speak with tongues.
Acts And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they
were all with one accord in one place.
2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Pls check my post on the manifestation of the holy spirit. I will repeat the parts of acts for personal study.. Acts chapters 8, 10, 19v6

1st corinthians chapters is referring to the church of Corinth and it is stated there

1st Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
All epistles are for particular churches to help their spiritual growth

Now to settle this :
1st Corinthians 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

Here everyone in the church in Corinth were obviously speaking in tongues. Paul was giving directions on conduct inside the church. This continued till the end of the epistle to the Corinthians.(conduct of women in the church)
14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?

We must also remember that there was so much idolatry then so Christians must have a conduct that is holy and different from their communities. There were orgies and prostitutes dedicated to the Bacchus.
Religion / Re: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by AyodejiGB: 10:42am On Jul 29, 2013
Another thing. What is a Christian's prayer? It is simply speaking to God and using the authority of the name of Jesus, backing it up with relevant scriptures. Jesus withstood the devil by saying "it is written". Other people pray to other Gods but a Christian prays (u have to open your mouth and make a sound -- with the mouth confession is made unto salvation) to God and uses the authority of the name of Jesus as a seal.
There also has to be an understanding of the meaning of body, spirit and soul. It would clear a lot of issues
Religion / Re: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by AyodejiGB: 10:34am On Jul 29, 2013
I do not believe in any church doctrine that doesn't have a scriptural basis and I am searching and praying for more knowledge of God in his word. The entrance of Gods word giveth life and gives understanding to the simple.
Joshua 1v8.
We should always read Gods word and not interpret it based on doctrine.
Read 1st Timothy chapter 4,
4:13 Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
4:15 Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all.
4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

1st Thessalonians 5
5:16 Rejoice evermore.
5:17 Pray without ceasing.
5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and
pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Tongues are the first sign that a person has been born again. It is one of the 9 gifts of the spirit. There are others.
Let us covet the most important gifts and fight the good fight of faith.

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

There are a lot of scriptural references that back any sound doctrine, human beings are the ones at fault if they mis-interpret or abuse anything of Gods laws or rules.
Religion / Re: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by AyodejiGB: 10:08am On Jul 29, 2013
In response to praying in tongues
1st Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

Remember that all these concern the church i.e born again Christians and not the man on the street.
God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. When we become born again, it is our spirit man that is born again and that is what the Holy Spirit communicates with. Our minds and our flesh must be subdued by us because we have authority over it. Demonic oppression has to do with the spirit man.

Ephesians 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Please read and meditate on Romans chapter 8, 1st Corinthians Chapters 12, 13 and 14.
It is explicit enough to resolve all these issues.
I always check whatever anybody tells me and prove any doctrine. There has to be at least 3 scriptural basis for anything. I always read the whole chapter or at least 3 verses before and after any verse so it is not taken out of context.
We remember scriptures that we have heard but forget the fact that it may have been misquoted and that the memory is fallible.
Remember Genesis 3 and the additions to Gods commandment that made Eve fall.
Please check and recheck. Even Jesus said some will call him and say that they performed miracles in his name and they did not make heaven
With the mouth confession is made unto salvation and out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh which means everyone has to find his own path.
There is no need for confusion. We may not agree with human beings (imperfect vessels) regarding their imperfections and the method of conveying their message but the manuscript of life - BIBLE - is the solution.
Religion / Re: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by AyodejiGB: 2:48am On Jul 29, 2013
I have followed the discussion and noticed that the thread really should focus on the abuse of any scriptural principle.
Let us go to the beginning.
Gen 1v1. talks about creation. But there is a civilization between Gen 1v1 and Gen 1v2. (Check Isaiah 14v12-15)
In verse 2, THE SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the face of the waters.
Man walked with God until sin came and man couldn't walk with God.
Throughout the Old Testament, only the prophets, kings and high priests were filled with the Holy Spirit. Moses was so filled that he could transfer anointing to 70 people.
Remember, all through the times of the Prophets, the Kings mostly did evil in the sight of the Lord and Israel suffered for it. Daniel and his friends were consecrated and were distinguished just like Joseph. Remember that people said the spirit of God was with them
We have promises in the bible that God would give us gifts.
ISAIAH 28:11 -- FOR WITH STAMMERING LIPS AND ANOTHER TONGUE WILL HE SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE.
Joel 2v28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Here we can see that the Holy Spirit was promised to all.
Zechariah 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

The Holy spirit was promised but the Mosaic law was in place and the High Priest went into the Holy of Holies once a year to make atonement for every male in Israel. Every male above 20yrs had to appear yearly for this. At Jesus’ death, it was recorded that the veil was torn from top to bottom which showed that we now have individual access to God.
Jesus was baptized and the Holy Spirit descended on him as prophesied: Isaiah 11v1-3 refers to Jesus
11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
He had to bring people out of the Law into grace. People had to be prepared for the dispensation of the Holy spirit which will reside within us, walk with us and work through us. The Jewish spiritual leaders had become more interested in ritualistic observance of the law and not walking with God.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; THEY SHALL SPEAK WITH NEW TONGUES;
16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Now it has been established that SPEAKING WITH NEW TONGUES IS FOR ALL THAT BELIEVE. It is a supernatural gift like all the rest.

Lets go to the events in Acts.
First the number of people at pentecost
1:12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
1:13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (THE NUMBER OF NAMES TOGETHER WERE ABOUT AN HUNDRED AND TWENTY,)
So it was not only the apostles that was baptised and spoke with other tongues at the first event.

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the HOLY GHOST, AND BEGAN TO SPEAK WITH OTHER TONGUES, AS THE SPIRIT GAVE THEM UTTERANCE.

This was where there was a gathering of people from different countries so the manifestation suited the occasion.
Lets check other events where people were filled with the Holy Spirit. Everytime it happened, people heard or noticed something that made people know that something happened. Acts 8v17,18;

Acts10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
10:46 FOR THEY HEARD THEM SPEAK WITH TONGUES, AND MAGNIFY GOD.

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and THEY SPAKE WITH TONGUES, AND PROPHESIED.
19:7 And all the men were about twelve.

Now we have seen that every one that desired it got it.

The bone of contention is in the Epistle to the people at Corinth.
Paul was adressing a problem of doctrine with each epistle. Here the gifts of speaking in tongues was being abused like it is abused now in most churches.
1st Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. (problem statement)..
12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
12:7 BUT THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SPIRIT IS GIVEN TO EVERY MAN TO PROFIT WITHAL[/b].
12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
Lets check this scripture
12:28 AND GOD HATH SET SOME IN THE CHURCH, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles,
then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

This refers to the Church as a body or to ministry gifts, and not individuals hence the questions he asked.

14:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the CHURCH.
14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the CHURCH may receive edifying. (The greek word for edify is oikodome which means the act of building or metaphorically, spiritual advancement.)

He is obviously refering to what was happening at the church in Corinth.
14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
14:19 YET IN THE CHURCH I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.



14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and FORBID NOT to speak with tongues.

Paul was an evangelist, planting churches and helping to nurture them.

It is evident that anything can be abused and the people of corinth were abusing it. The were only speaking in tongues in the church which is what he was trying to correct. Here Paul said the spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet.

It is best to meditate on the scriptures and see what each chapter or author is trying to teach than to condemn else we will throw the baby out with the bathwater.
If you are praying and magnifying God in your quiet time and you initiate the tongues, there is no scripture that forbids it, I have had it personally flow and I knew my spiritual and physical life was better. I don’t personally speak in tongues for fun unless I am praying and I know that it is not vain repetition.
Jesus said the words that I speak to you, they are spirit and they are life. And the Comforter will guide us to into all truth, teach us all things and bring all things to our remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you.
The scripture cannot be broken.
May God help our understanding
Crime / Re: Cynthia Osokogu’s Murder: Pharmacists Are Released Unconditionally by AyodejiGB: 2:51pm On Nov 27, 2012
I am a medical practitioner (doctor) and I have been following this discussion with interest.
There has been a lot of name calling and insults which are unwarranted.
The fact are
1. these pharmacists sold a prescription only drug without a valid prescription
2. the same drug was used by some people to incapacitate a girl before said acts were performed
3. the said girl was killed
4. the police arrested some pharmacist (one on duty and one off duty at the time the said drug was sold that pharmacy) for conspiracy to commit murder.
5. the police have not been able to prove that the pharmacists had a foreknowledge of the crime or that they had a financial inducement to sell the drugs. The pharmacists and the docked suspects did not know each other.
6. the court discharged the pharmacists from the murder case on the advice of the director of public prosecution.

What the pharmacists can be charged for is professional misconduct, not an accessory to murder or conspiracy.
The pharmaceutical society of Nigeria will look into the case of misconduct.
It takes evidence that is substantiated to charge someone to court and irrefutable evidence to convict.an
I feel for the family of the deceased as well as the pharmacists whose lives has been destroyed by unsustainable evidence.
Michael Jackson's doctor gave a drug he was not licensed to administer in an unsafe environment and he was busy removing the evidence instead of trying to save his patients life. It is criminal negligence and professional misconduct that directly cost MJ's life

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