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Foreign Affairs / Re: Human Rights Watch Asks For Prosecution Of Bush by Azania2(f): 1:34pm On Aug 12, 2011
Life is really not fair but those two can never run/hide from God.

Bush and Blair must really account for what they have done to this world.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Will Usa Go To War With China To End Its Economic Decline? by Azania2(f): 1:29pm On Aug 12, 2011
Must a white man really fight and kill for things that aren't theirs just to control poeple? Obama is just a face of USA, we know who really run things there.

I am convinced that the devil is white.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Without Colonialism Sub-Saharan Africa Still Be In The Stone Age by Azania2(f): 1:24pm On Aug 12, 2011
Well, i guess we may never know.

somehow, I love the Idea of living in the old Africa before the pinkies colonized it.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Welcome Home Ms Michelle Obama. Welcome To South Africa by Azania2(f): 1:11pm On Aug 12, 2011
RSA:

^Azania when I started commenting on this forum I came with olive leafs in both my hands,I wanted to make peace.As much as we didn't understand Africa I felt that we are also misunderstood by Africa.I was trying to explain and then every body jumped on me calling me and my countrymen names.

I don't know, maybe Africa (let me not put Africa in this because I can see that it is particularly Nigeria) expected us to behave in a certain way after we got our democracy. It could be that they wanted to babysit us or they expected us to rid the country of every white man remaining and struggle off our feet like most others. It is a bit confusing where this hate and anger comes from, I really don't understand it.
Maybe we are not listening to them or their cries or maybe we aren't willing to give them a chance, It is a psychological thing and it is deep.
Somehow we are not allowed to be happy about our Heritage or unity as a country. One of the things we do best in this country is Social Cohesion, it Brings unity, love and understanding of other countrymen and Africans as well. I recommend that Nigeria adopts this, It works wonders in restoring the nation pride.

I was surprised that some nairalanders were against us hosting the world cup. It baffled me how quick they were to side with Europe when they were demanding a plan B. and then there was this BRICS thing which many say we don't deserve to be part of and other numerous threads on S.A where most NL posts are really negative in issues of S.A. I must point out that it is not all of them but many are like that on this forum.

RSA:

Nigerians are born with hatred and jealousy,it is in their DNA.If they don't hate their countrymen eg.Hausa and Igbho,or Yoruba and Igbo then they hate other Africans who are doing better than them eg.Ghana,South Africa or East Africans like Kenya.

Please don't say this because no one is born with hate or envy, it is bad habits that one learns while growing up. I do understand the tensions and lack of love of Nigerian tribes. I really wish they could see beyond themselves and understand other people instead of bashing them every chance available.
I have read a lot of your posts and that of Yoruba, Mpele, SAgodess, S.Alady and S.ALuv and I could see how you guys were defending south africa and the brothers were not willing to hear any of it.
It is not all Nigerians who are like this though. Some of Nairalanders (nigerians) do acknowledge the truth when they see it. They are not easily fooled by their fellow countrymen who are blinded by anger and patriotism so much that they hate the sight of a happy Ghanaian, South African or whoever they feel is beneath them.

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Nigeria have the potential to be one the most succesful country in the world,but their people are cursed.They hate mass progress,they are controlled by 'Big man mentality',they all think they know even if they knows nothing.It's a desease and I doubt it has a cure.

Considering the population they have, they should be super power of Africa. there is a lot of examples of countries with that massive population who are doing really well. With Nigeria is not a matter of them being cursed (LOL how did you get to this conclusion) it is pure daylight corruption. Greed is what is killing the progress of the great Naija. This is nobody's fault but theirs.
I once asked some duffus Nigerian guy who was bragging on Big brother forum that they have billionaires in Nigeria who are richer than any man in Africa if he is happy that they have a handful of billionaire and millions of poor hungry people. To me this showed how some people think and Africa can never move forward if we have this monopolistic mentality about our riches as a continent.

One thing I am really proud of as a South African is that we are not bullied by a government. If we are not happy about the delivery or corruption of any kind, we express ourselves. Yebo! we strike to correct the mistake of our Government. Maybe its got something to do with our laws that allow people to express themselves and participate in Government issues and progress.
We have so many tribes here but we work together because we understand the vision of this country. Who wouldn't love S.A mara? we are a country full of possibilities and endless opportunities. We are diverse but at the same time we are united. There is no tribalism happening here. Our heroes fought the struggle together: Tswana, Sotho, Pedi, Zulu, Tsonga, Xhosa, English, Afrikaans, Indian, Ndebele etc and after the struggle we all united.

A country with no vision is as good as dead.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Pictures Of London Riot Looters! by Azania2(f): 8:36am On Aug 12, 2011
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see these black men foolich oo, whites are on hoods but they are not, senseless blacks
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Foreign Affairs / Re: Pictures Of London Riot Looters! by Azania2(f): 8:33am On Aug 12, 2011
The picture of the thief checking out the size of jeans he just stole just kills me, grin
Foreign Affairs / Re: Africans Running Riot In London! by Azania2(f): 5:10pm On Aug 11, 2011
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Foreign Affairs / Re: Welcome Home Ms Michelle Obama. Welcome To South Africa by Azania2(f): 4:45pm On Aug 11, 2011
ohk, point taken. To sum everything up: you are like this towards South Africans because of what they say about Nigerians that live in South africa?.


You can't exactly blame them. some of the things that they say about our fellow african brothers (Nigerians) are true. You see we do have a huge problem of drugs in this country and I do acknowledge that our youths are not forced by anyone to use drugs but the suppliers are also not backing down. Most of these suppliers are Nigerians, it is unfortunate but it is true. This is a fact that doesn't sit well with you but we are really having a problem with Nigerians coming here and supplying drugs to people. of course we can't entirely blame you for our drug problem but as fellow Africans, you are not helping the situation here.
Put your self in the saffers shoes and tell me boldly that you wouldn't mind if a foreigner comes to your shores and start destroying your youths,

That said, we are wise enough to know that not all Nigerians are drug lords or Pimps, this is just a stereotype that is held not only by some south African's but by other parts of the world as well (Please Google this). We do know that Nigerians are far in terms of Education and it is not only Nigeria that has poor people, we also have plenty of people in this country (You should know this since you've worked for an NGO in Mzansi)

But then you are also not very different from the things you are accusing us of. Every opportunity you get, you state how we are ignorant and Lazy but as a grown up, I trust you know that this is just stereo typing S.A citizens. You do know that a black man in S.A really works hard for the things that they have and also in building this country.
You see South Africans are not lazy or dumb or uneducated like you enjoy to imply, we are educated as well and we work hard. You should see the number of Black people in our Universities and you'll change your perception about us.
We are not perfect but we are trying. There is no harm in being proud.

We do not resent Nigerians, no we don't. we just don't like the ones that sell drugs to our already junky youth. It is not true that we hate you. We have never complained about you guys coming down here or have we? we have never beaten or killed you guys like you are trying to pint out. Ask any Nigerian that lives in S.A if they have ever been threatened by any south african.
The only Nigerians that are harassed by the police are the ones that manufacture and sell drugs here. I don't have to apologize or explain to you because you know that what I am saying is true.

It is also disgraceful and sickening what I hear some of your bothers say about south Africans, raising apartheid every opportunity they get. We have lost a lot of good innocent people through apartheid but you guys try to throw it around as if we deserved it or something. We are still very young in this new south africa and we are healing. The last thing we need is for a fellow african to laugh in our faces as if we are a disgrace to Africa and deserved what we got.
It is really amazing how insensitive you are regarding our history.
Imagine if I were to use your history against you. How will it make you feel if people can carelessly start discussing some of the worst things that happened in Nigeria in the late 70s.
If it really makes you happy then I guess who am I to question.

anyway, each to their own. It won't change the fact that we are all Africans at the end of the day. Not just Africans but Africans full of ugly History.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Africans Running Riot In London! by Azania2(f): 3:35pm On Aug 11, 2011
I didn't say "excreta"., i said you are talking poo. NL just had to put it in a more polite way.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Africans Running Riot In London! by Azania2(f): 3:33pm On Aug 11, 2011
so are you saying that you are willing to excuse the white kids even if they can burn down the whole of London but the chocolate ones should be deported?

what exactly is your point? I hope you are aware that you sound really stupid right now. white man or not, you really talking sh*t.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Africans Running Riot In London! by Azania2(f): 3:25pm On Aug 11, 2011
Hertsnite, you are really paranoid. you need help!

find solutions to your problems and stop blaming Africans, Romans or whoever you just feel like picking on.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Welcome Home Ms Michelle Obama. Welcome To South Africa by Azania2(f): 3:16pm On Aug 11, 2011
Land of Madiba or not, you just love to hate mzansi period and I have seen this in 90% of your posts on S.A issues. I think you'd be one of the people that can rejoice should anything bad happen to mzansi.

We are not ignorant, the problem with you and some of your brothers is that you hate it when South Africans stand up for their country. It bothers you that we are proud of what we've achieved.
whenever there is praise about how far the country has come, you are quick to point out our past which you know very well we are not proud of, whether it be apartheid (which you love so much) or xenophobia (which really gives you the kicks) you just love rubbing it in our faces but it's cool though coz it's your right as a Nairalander to do that.

The fact that Nigeria has had independence decades ago and it's still where it is (most educated in africa or not) and S.A is only 17 years old and has achieved more than it was imaginable is driving you crazy, especially when the like of RSA, Yoruba and Mpele point this out.LOL I understand!

It is not only you, I just love reading your posts, I really do because in the midst of all the anger you really make a lot of sense to me. I always try to look at both sides and I know some of the things that my people say sometimes do come across as arrogant but it is mostly due to them defending what you guys post here about south africans.

South africans are lovely people, whether NL agrees to this or not and we are very informed and alert of the things that happen in our country and around us.

Please list the things that we re ignorant about.

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Business / Re: Which Country Should Be classified with BRIC? Nigeria Or South Africa? by Azania2(f): 2:55pm On Aug 11, 2011
Ooops! made a mistake there grin.

Clearly, Brazi, Russia, India and China don't share your views brother. I think these countries see the potential of Mzansi expanding the economy and we all know that if there is any country that has potential in growing is Mzansi. we have proven this time and again.

whether S.A lobbied to be part of BRIC or not doesn't matter but what matters is that we meet the standards to be part of BRIC which is now officially BRICS. The world knows this! kiss
Business / Re: Which Country Should Be classified with BRIC? Nigeria Or South Africa? by Azania2(f): 2:53pm On Aug 11, 2011
houvest:

Yes they are now in BRICS but I think they had to use lobbying not because they deserve it. The Indices used by Goldman Sachs to arrive at the 4 BRIC states are not those of being an industrialized state but have to do more with potentials of expansion to a World economic leader. I do not see SA as ever going to meet those indices but nothing spoil. Let them join BRIC if it makes them happy. I think that they deserve to be in the G20 where they are already as they meet the requirements of an industralised economy but not BRIC which has more to do with expansivity. Nigeria also does not yet deserve to be in BRIC but N-11 as Godman Sachs rightly projected. However I expect Nigeria to have met the indices for BRIC in say 2018 or thereabouts. SEE bolded below:
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Clearly, Brazi, Russia, India and China don't share your views brother. I think these countries see the potential of Mzansi expanding the economy and we all know that if there is any country that has potential in growing is Mzansi. we have proven this time and again.

whether S.A lobbied to be part of BRIC or not doesn't matter but what matters is that we meet the standards to be part of BRIC which is now officially BRICS. The world knows this! kiss
Foreign Affairs / Re: Africans Running Riot In London! by Azania2(f): 11:02am On Aug 11, 2011
ah ah hertsnite, don't blame Africans for your problems please, the majority of those rioters were white. I saw it on the news. besides, aren't they your citizens?
Foreign Affairs / Re: London Riots: How Can Africa Help England? by Azania2(f): 10:50am On Aug 11, 2011
The best way is to butt out of their business. God knows we have enough of our own problems here.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Welcome Home Ms Michelle Obama. Welcome To South Africa by Azania2(f): 10:45am On Aug 11, 2011
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LOL morpheus, when it comes to hating S.A you win hands down! There should be a price on NL for this, really, this deserves some recognition.

I don't think anything bad you say about S.A will erase or take away all the good we've achieved. Keep hating while we keep growing. wink

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Norwegian Christian Terrorist Anders Breivik On Africa by Azania2(f): 9:30am On Aug 11, 2011
oK NL, I see how you work but must your guys really edit everything I said? you even add your own words? wow, ohk!
Foreign Affairs / Re: Norwegian Christian Terrorist Anders Breivik On Africa by Azania2(f): 9:23am On Aug 11, 2011
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It is funny that you should state that Africans are racist towards the Europeans except for south Africans, as a south African, I don't know if you stated this so that I could feel proud and pat myself in the back, it is really confusing to me and I tell you, sometimes I really think that the devil is white,

After all that your forefathers did to Africa you expect us to kiss your white ass? Never, not in a million years and I think that the Truth and Reconciliation crap that took place here was just bullsh*t.

Your fore father's raped this continent. they came here with the intentions to bring poverty, slavery and misery amongst black people not to mention how they brainwashed us.
Whether you like it or not, Africa was a much nicer place to live before your fathers invaded it. whether you guys came here with technology, the buildings or the wheel, I don't care because Africa did not need a damn wheel.
God had provided for African's, we would have developed at our own pace. we had the best there is to offer here, nature, wildlife, domestic animals, food and clothes. yes, our animal clothes were good enough for us.

You come here talking about Africans being hostile? no matter how hating or hostile Africans are, they can never beat you guys to it. you people are the pioneers of hate. you kill for things that are not yours, you rape nations, you kidnap and enslave people, you steal, yes you are the biggest thieves this planet has ever seen.

you have no right to come here and accuse us Africans of hate. Africa is the way it is because of you. for crying in a bucket, we even hate each other over things that you created, things that you created on the en slavery of my people.


Africans are good people and this is a FACT!

wheeeeew, got that out of my system.
Religion / Re: You Are Just Bad Enough For God To Love by Azania2(f): 6:58am On Aug 11, 2011
God loves all his children and one can never be bad enough for the love of God. The love of God is not like that of humans, his is more superior and unconditional.
Politics / Re: Can This Man Become President? by Azania2(f): 10:36am On Aug 08, 2011
If you have the ability, the will , vision and LOVE for your country instead of your pocket, then I say go for it Boss!!

Please make sure you are properly Educated, Africa (Nigeria in this case) needs informed and wise people.

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