₦airaland Forum

aribisala0:
But the Western Governm developed Ikeja and that is why it was made capital
Your bitterness will rot your liver

Your curses will go back to you

Only the tiv can reveal the truths about what is happening in their land.

No one else,no one else

Since 1804 when the Hausa kingdoms fell to the Fulani, Nigeria has been facing a secret demonic attack orchestrated by the Fulani to this day.



Many are confused why the Fulani are so privileged in NIGERIA.

It is due to the demonic association of the Fulani with demonic bloodletting in Nigeria.

The Fulani are in a renewal blood covenant with demons,that assigns privilege to them in this Nigerian space.

Unless Nigerian tribes stop tolerating the Fulani presence in their domains,Nigeria will never progress.

As long as you allow Fulani camps in your villages, their demonic association will always foster violence, bloodletting and poverty.

Nigerians are sleeping

aribisala0:
Where did I mention Festac
You are an Idiot
I mentioned 5 divisions not only Badagry
All the development
that happened up till 1967 BEFORE Lagos state was created was down to the Western Region that was my claim
Did Festac exist in 1967??
Was there a single express road any where in Nigeria in 1967?
No
Is Badagry the only part I mentioned
So why are you putting words I did not say in my mouth
If I did not claim FESTAC you will die a painful death like a dog

Nigeria as a whole had a certain development level in 1967

Ikeja Badagry Epe and Ikorodu were in the Western region until 1967

Whatever the level of those parts of Western Region In 1967 compare to Aba or Onitsha in 1967 or Enugu or Port Harcourt

In that same 1967

Irreverent curses go back to sender

Western government had very little development contribution to LAGOS, all the areas previously under Western government in LAGOS today except Ikeja are the less developed part of LAGOS today,the FG finished worked in LAGOS

aribisala0:
Jungle?

Do you have any idea what the whole of Nigeria looked. Like in 1967?

There was not a single express road in THE WHOLE OF NIGERIA


NOT ONE

So everything is relative


So if Badagry was a Jungle what did the SE look like?

Being the monkey that you are you must know.

The Western Region government was. ALWAYS the richest
Easily verifiable

The Western Regi9n developed the industrial base in Ikeja.

Yes the country was backward but the Western Region was always ahead

The first to own a TV Station,University etc


So your stupid claim that areas were developed by FG Is bad belle
States were created in 1967by a military government and the whole country was ruled by military government

Ikeja Airport Hotel is part of the Odua group of companies dating back to the 60s

Stop hating

Your claim that because badagry n Festac was under Western government prior to 1967 so development in such areas were due to Western government is false and I corrected you on that simple.the Western government didn't develop those areas ,it was FG that did simple.

OALandAgents:
Provide links to compelling evidence to support your claims.

go find the links yourself.

aribisala0:
Define Lagos
You are a fool
Lagos state was created in 1967

It had 5 divisions
Lagos
Ikorodu
Ikeja
Epe
Badagry
Prior to 1967 the Lagos division stood alone as federal capital
The other 4 divisions were part of the Western Region governed from Ibadan
REPEAT IBADAN

AGAIN..?

IBADAN

*Ibadan was responsible for Ikorodu Epe Badagry and Ikeja till 1967

Badagry covers all of Orile Festac etc

Ikeja covers Mushin Isolo

So the capital alone was federal until 1967

Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu land

Badadry is Awori and Egun and
Ikeja is a mixture of settlers from Nupe. e.g Oshodi Egba e.g Abule Egba etc

So don't put dirty mouth in Lagos State matter if you don't know the history

Prior to 1967,Festac and even orile were jungles,the Western government never had any development stride there,these areas were developed by the FG

Gerrard59:
Historically (how long?) have smaller ethnic groups been greater (define greater)? Which are these smaller "tribes"?

Research on most tribes outside the big three especially in the middlebelt and Edo you'll understand my POV

iroko2020:
The Igbos are not part of the leadership since the civil war ended. The victors like the Hausa-Fulani,Yoruba,North central and southern minorities are to blame for the current state of the country

It's a lie,the igbos have held very top positions in government since after the civil war,they cannot exonerate themselves, they have been VP with ekuweme, senate president the longest,sgf,held top ministerial positions.They have been part and parcel of the evil governance of Nigeria

Kobojunkie:
1. Name the village so we can independently confirm your claim.

2. So, dynamics of changing ECONOMIC situation is what keeps a community of people from developing themselves independent of the incompetent leadership situation in the entire country down to the LGA level that has persisted for over 60 leads?

3. I guess you are just here to shift the blame as is typical with every tribe in Nigeria and nothing else! Very typical behavior among Nigerians!

What's the essence of government?
Why should they have laws and governance structures when it's left to the communities to develop themselves solely when they collect tax from local markets .my local government as been developing itself independently however, but that model is not sustainable unless ,the government of Nigeria ceases to exist

OALandAgents:
But Boko Haram emerged during Obasanjo's PDP govt .
At least young girls are no longer being blown up in market places and Boko Haram no longer hold control of any LGAs. Also Boko Haram stopped having the ability to bomb Abuja and Lagos.

But cold blood wholesale murder of communities in the Middlebelt don't matter because they are not in the big cities and of majority tribes?, you wicked and soulless demons

OALandAgents:
Mainly your opinion though.
Another thing Buhari did better than any other president since 1999 was infrastructure.
Second Niger Bridge is a perfect example.

It's not my opinion, it's the fact,with available evidences to prove,he oversaw the murder of innocent souls in the Middlebelt

simpleseyi:
After the god of Politics and Strategy Emilokan JAGABAN finishes his 8 years and handover to his anointed Northern son and that finishes his & years. Presidency will now come back to the South for Niger Deltans to put forward any of their capable sons, they can then put Goatluck Jonathan forward again.

. As for the other Nzobu Nzobu people, Nigeria’s Presidency is not meant for them.

Your demented evil Nigeria will crumble before then

It's the quality of the major tribes.
It might look like castigation,but it's the truth.

The major tribes thrive in slave mentality.
They can't do without their white masters

OALandAgents:
Insecurity, when Buhari came in 2015, Boko Haram was setting off bombs in Abuja and Lagos. Chad troops where roaming freely around the North East in the name of assisting Nigeria fight Bokoharam, Also BH were regularly blowing young girls in markets after strapping bombs on them.

As he was leaving murder by his fulani agents was rampaging the Middlebelt that was hitherto peaceful .

May the most high judge you,

OALandAgents:
Go arrest him then OP. What is the use of sitting at your keypad lamenting, is that going to un-destroy Nigeria?

OP, truth be told, Buhari was the best civilian government we have ever had since return to democracy in 1999.

After destroying the economy ,ruining the whole financial system,and murdered numerous innocent souls.may God do to you so and more according to the wickedness of your lord buhari

olisaEze:
Broda man I feel your pains, but the struggle is not about tribe like the misguided minions think. But between those that believe they are the elite and the poor. If ure not rich in this country at the moment ure in the tribe of the poor. Nothing that is meant to work for u works for u! Not the police or justice or the legislature whether ure Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa or minority. They all work for the other tribe. The tribal bashing they covertly encourage is all a smoke screen, they don’t care about any of that. It’s meant to keep the poor busy at each other’s throats while they share what is meant for all amongst themselves. It wasn’t always like this, but it is what it is now.

My point is the major tribes made the system so,it wasn't like this under Gowon until Obasanjo, shagari and BUHARI ( hausa-fulani) made it so

Kobojunkie:
1. This is even worse! So, in a place like Nigeria where I grew up, members of a community came together, not to build private schools, roads, town halls, or power transmission lines. Instead, they contributed money to sponsor the government in their own community. what sort of nonsense is that? 😏

2. Members of the community fed their own money into a non-profit endeavor and then expected the same government that never paid them any mind before it all to come in and maintain it on their behalf. No be craze be that? 🙄

3. Abeg, stop rambling o'jare! You call them stewpid wazobia laws but you have yet to reveal that any of them have in fact hindered you or any minor group you know of from directly engaging and developing themselves at the village, township, and LGA levels. No be craze them dey call that? 🙄

My village as developed itself,both in human resource and infrastructure through self will and effort even before independence of the Nigerian state.

If you don't understand dynamics of changing ECONOMIC situations, Na you sabi.

These fxcking major tribes need to sit up n upgrade or leave the scene for the real gees- minorities to run

Kobojunkie:
1. What law enabled the community you mentioned earlier to donate and to form a company for themselves, to build for themselves a hospital but then stop them from maintaining the company they built for themselves?

2. So, the business they built was not profitable but somehow they then expected government or someone else to come in to save their private investment? Does that make sense of any kind?

3. Prevents sustainable funding of private businesses? Does that even make sense to you?

4. Well, the problem isn't limited to the major tribes as you have clearly revealed by the many silly excuses you have attempted to make over and over again on why even the minority tribes are unable to sustainably change their lives any differently from the other tribes in the country.

The hospital wasn't built as a business but to help the community as there was no government hospital any were close.
The community built it's own roads
They built their own schools
They built their own town hall
They contributed to electrify their community
But then again to maintain these things are not as easy as to build,buy or install them.
Because they need continued sustainable funding which is not easy to maintain over a long stretch of time unlike the time it takes to donate funds to build.

These stupid wazobia laws n government should be discarded for better performance

pazienza:
Bayelsa state is ruled by Ijaw and earns atleast 4 times more allocations from FG than Anambra despite its smaller population.
But Yenegoa is not even as developed as Nnewi.

And when exactly was the last time the Igbo man ruled Nigeria? Why do you have to squeeze Ndiigbo into your cowardice vituperations? Are that too coward to mention the SW and North that have been in power since 1966?

Was GEJ not the president of Nigeria for good 6 years?

Bayelsa population is not that small and it's land mass is very BIG n challenging.

Kobojunkie:
1. What you are telling us is that the people... the same ones whom you earlier indicated were able to come together to build a hospital for themselves in the past... should not be expected to help themselves at all.

2. How can it be private when you stated that maintenance had to be handled by, not those who came together to build the facilities, but others completely removed from them?

3. Basically, you finally admit then that the minor tribes are just as pathetic as the major tribes in their yearning for some government from some where to come to save them all, abi? You created this thread to create the perception that there was a difference to be noted between the major and minor tribes but here you indicate that they all are out there waiting for a savior at the village, township, and LGA levels.

There are laws that are enforced by the Nigerian government that prevents some actions by those willing to take them ,therefore the Nigerian government should give way ,if they cannot fulfill their own obligations.

It was simply difficult to maintain sustainably,that's my point,because they couldn't sustain the funding after 2 decades.
The system of the Nigerian laws,economy and government prevents them sustainable funding .They LGA using Nigerian laws prevented them from imposing a tax to sustain the funding.

What then is the purpose of these useless majority tribes governments if they can't fulfil any obligations to the people?

Kobojunkie:
1. Communal contributions but owned by whom? The government or the people who contributed to build it..aka private investors?

2. So, unless massive funds are available, not even the local schools can be developed by way of private contributions from the villages over time-- shareholders, abi?

2. Are deep pockets what is necessary or a people with a plan and a resolve? If deep pockets are the solution why are LGAs located across of Lagos State, including Dangote's home town and village, all equally without any of the listed?

People are out of their local government, hustling,paying bills wherever they find themselves, they might not have sustained funds to fund,local projects for a long sustainable period.
Those resident in local government areas especially of rural communities might not have the required funds to fund such projects sustainably too,unless there is a sustained means by which the community earns money possibly through exploitation of its natural resources or some local manufacturing of which the system doesn't support.

The example I gave is a private project from community effort different from a private corporate entity or well funded individual, they sustained it for quite some time ( over decades) but could not reliably continue to sustain it which led to its deterioration ,like wise schools in the community, it's not as easy as you think.

The government led by these majority tribes needs to step up or give way for minorities to take up the challenge

Kobojunkie:
Wetin concern state government with this now. So, private developments and investments from people within even the minor tribes are totally out of the question even at these smaller levels for una?

2. What you just said makes no sense of any kind. If the hospital is privately owned shouldn't the maintenance fall on the owners themselves?

The hospital was built by communal contribution not private entity, the community could no longer sustain the funding after several decades due to the general shambolic economy sponsored by the majority tribes especially after 1999.

You talking private investment cos most of the major tribes people due to their being close to power have links to access funds and grow their businesses and are individually wealthy, that's not the case for many small tribes.

They don't really have people with very deep pockets as much that's what people like you don't understand.

Not every tribe as the dangote,otedolas etc

odejimioflagos:
Obi is still teaching them a lesson.

The lesson is that they should never elect a tribal bigot as president.

You Yorubas cup go full oneday,you've done so much evil to Nigeria, through your terrible subsequent political choice causing the innocent people of the Middlebelt sufferings,your cup go full one day

Kobojunkie:
I will bite🤔🤔🤔

... what are the systemic things today hindering people in village A or town A or LGA A from coming together as a tribe to provide themselves any of the above-listed amenities?

For a long while LGAs were not given their due funds and were also run by stooges of state governors and not elected by the people, this is a systemic failure.

Also,How do you maintain those things if they are built by private funds,with which resources, when a local government can hardly sell resources found in its land.

You can build but to maintain is the problem.
A clear case occurred in my minority LGA were a big hospital was built by collective effort of the indigenes but it deteriorated when it could not be subsequently maintained because charges were very low.

ERockson:
Bring the forking religion bigot 2027 and we will do the same thing

You n your tinubu n Nigeria will perish

tensazangetsu20:
Men you fit die of these complaints

Am just making observations not making complaints

Kobojunkie:
Interesting claim you make regarding the minor tribes somehow being greater. There are 774 local government areas in Nigeria... municipalities where if the people truly wished for progress, they could easily begin making it happen for themselves as is. To date, none of those 774 municipalities can boast of any of the following
■ Clean water supply to homes
■ Robust sewage and water management system
■ Effective Waste management system
■ Good schools with world-standard educational and Skills training services
■ Internet connectivity in both homes and businesses
■ Electricity supply to homes and businesses(through building of dams, use of wind turbines, and better distribution services)
■ World Standard equipped Healthcare network
■ Sturdy road network complete
■ Passenger Rail system linking at least the major towns and cities
■ Network of Libraries with free access to members of the public to support learning
■ Better prison facilities and rehabilitation programs
■ Expansion of police-community programs to help capture crimes across all parts of the state.
■ Robust Gas transmission network for the direct piping of gas into homes. , etc.

So, do you want us to believe that these minor tribes which you claim have achieved greater than the major tribes have so far do not live within any of the 774 LGAs that is Nigeria?

The major tribes have indeed amounted to nothing as far as Nigeria is concerned but that doesn't mean the minor tribes are any better than they are. As the proof is everywhere that all tribes in Nigeria are nothing but mouths and noise.

There are systemic things hindering things for the minorities, many of those things were hitherto achieved Under military rule led by minorities like Gowon,Abuja built by babangida

So called wazobia,biggest black tribes of the Hausa,Yoruba and Igbo.

They don't have ECONOMIC power or military power.

Even sports power they no get.

The only thing they do is signing n dancing
Religiosity
Begging for aid( investors)
Working for whites( SLAVERY)

Eating n birthing

Historically the small tribes in NIGERIA has always been greater.

Why these wazobia no dey shame.

See their president

That's the point.
Military technology and power is the real deal.but these stupid major tribes, plenty for nothing, only singing,dancing n begging for aid and investors all over they sabi

HenryWilliams:
That is not true .
Nigeria has assets in foreign countries including cash..
Those will be appropriated first .
Then physical assets in the country in with the loan was tied to will be seized. Dividing the country won't stop creditors from coming in.
Once the violence starts , foreign power will come in to "stabilize" the region..as the soldiers roll in, so do the assessors to take over the natural resources like oil and so on
Nigeria will pay the loans complete and then some.

What assets exactly are most of the loans tied to?

Most of the loans are for recurrent expenditures, they are down the drain.

They can only take those in foreign countries.
As for any in Nigeria, otilo