The Hausa are wicked and cooperate with the Fulani in their historical wars against the south,the hausa-fulani are one united entity against the south along with the Nupe

AreaFada2:

I believe the problem now is that it has become an ethnic, supremacy and political fight. Not about thorough research. We have discussed Benin-Yoruba issue here for over a decade now. It typically degenerates to insults.

I have even offered to take anybody willing to go to Eastern Yorubaland to see thriving Edo origin communities and Obas.

I also hereby add on top to invite in the opposite direction to see Yoruboid communities in Edo.

To speak to both sides about their history.

But people seem more interested in arguing, ranting and swearing than facts finding.

Now, as for Egharevba and his A Short History of Benin, it was a good attempt at putting things together in terms of trying the bridge the lacuna on written Benin History as a whole. Benin history presented hitherto mostly in smaller bits and European records in the written form. However, it is vast in oral form and in sculpture, carving, worship, festivals, ceremonies, rituals, etc. But like any pioneer work, it clearly had limitations due to limited resources and research to rely on at the time.

So, we cannot rely on it as if it was a Bible. Same applies to a lot of books on history.

If we cannot be objective, dispassionate and open-minded in our approach to learning history, we won't get very far.

It is not a competition or fight BUT 9ja seem to fight over everything: politics, resource control, religion, palliatives, ethnic issues, history, everything.

Automaticmotors
Gregyboy
Etinosa
samuk

Well said

Dsimmer:


Go and tell that to Buna's mother, Bose from akoko. Ode.

If burnas mother is from Akoko-edo, she'll tell you herself that she's not yoruba

Dsimmer:


Ode, na the same akoko birthed them. Sink that into your dumb head. No be Yoruba asked you not to have history.

They are different People, mock all you want,facts are facts

The major tribes of Nigeria are running away from their country where they have all the power and positions to the safe arms of whiteman for solace,comfort and protection.

The whiteman has since left them alone ooo but they can't do without him,some of them are even calling for recolonisation, they wish the whiteman never left.


Without the whiteman these major tribes are just trash,useless trash.

Population for nothing

The major tribes of Nigeria are running away from their country where they have all the power and positions to the safe arms of whiteman for solace,comfort and protection.

The whiteman has since left them alone ooo but they can't do without him,some of them are even calling for recolonisation, they wish the whiteman never left.


Without the whiteman these major tribes are just trash,useless trash.

Population for nothing

Simbrixton:
EHYA BUT WE ARE TIMES TEN BETTER THAN YOUR TRIBE NA OR IS TINUBU NOW A BENIN DESCENDANT TOO LOOOOL

Your opinion

Dsimmer:


Ode, go and tell Adefarati family that they're not Yoruba, if they won't strike that your stupid head. Nobody asked you not to hav history. No be Yoruba do you. Ode.

Adefarati is Akoko-Ondo not Akoko-edo, Ha are you guys this dense?

Dsimmer:


Ode, they're all Yoruba. Ugbo oshi means forest of oshin mole. In fact, i was Oranmiyan people who founded most of the places in Bini. You this igbira man better shut your hole if you don't know your history. If it's not saying gibberish about benue, it's Kogi or Bini while saying all sorts of unfounded gibberish. Ode. Na Yoruba do you? 🙄I don't even know when igbira became covetous.

Insult all you want, I am saying facts,these places,they don't speak Yoruba at all,they don't have Yoruba culture, and they trace their origin to Benin,

Simbrixton:
deadlytruth is not from ibilo

That someone bearing "Ayo" is not of yoruba ancestry is becoming laughable

Ok we dense because we no listen to your lies

Hav come to realise Yorubas are not as intelligent as they claim to be

ElSudani:


Why don't you simply show me evidence now and cure my "ignorance"

Google it,it's everywere, I no get strength for that

ElSudani:


He never said anything like that. If he did, then show us the unedited version.

You'll discover one day,I'll leave you ignorant

ElSudani:


My friend, you are talking nonsense.

This is an edited clip,look for the full unedited video,he mentioned that Oduduwa was an exiled Benin prince

ElSudani:


"He said the elders of Benin sent a message to Oduduwa requesting him to send his son."

Which part of this is ambiguous or too hard for you to understand.

There are missing parts in the clip,look for the full video

ElSudani:


Is that what he said in the video you can see with your own eyes?
I think some of you just start these dumb threads to amuse yourselves.

Watch the full video

UncleAyo:


The same history revision you were falsely accusing the Yoruba of is what you're doing here. What do you stand to gain by spilling out all these falsehoods and conjectures that you formed in your head against the written and oral history of both people whose history you're trying to manipulate?

These are facts,you can check up on them,you Yorubas just conclude on history based on few limited written sources

Iamgrey5:
igarra people are of mixed origin.

Not everyone in igarra bears Yoruba name or have anything to do with Yorubas.

Same with ibilo,not everyone in ibilo bares Yoruba names,whatever the origin of igarra,they have limited Yoruba ancestry, yet alot of them bare Yoruba names infact the majority

ElSudani:


Are you saying you know the history of Benin/Ife more than the Oba of Benin?
You heard the Oba proclaiming himself a direct descendant of Oranmiyan and you are here sweating to convince yourself otherwise.
Who is the revisionist here?

That's why I said the oromiyan,IFE benin relationship is complex ,to the oba of Benin,oromiyan was the son of an Edo exiled prince,while the Yoruba see him as a Yoruba man,the matter hasn't been concluded on his true identity

Iamgrey5:
The first history of ife/Bini origin was written by a Bini man.

Ask why the new generation of Bini are trying to rewrite his book.

And why Bini bear Yoruba names but Yoruba don't bear Bini names.

Not even the ones that claim to come from Bini in Lagos.

They are rewriting these books to correct previous fallacies,that were written through poor research

Slytiger:

Hehehe. I am happy that their two leading contenders have strong Yoruba ties either via names or via blood. It's impossible to go into a battle with God.

LP: Gov, Olumide and Deputy Gov, Olayinka
PDP: Gov, Asue Akintunde Ighodalo.

There's nothing bad,in that,they will be massively voted FOR.

Iamgrey5:
The first history of ife/Bini origin was written by a Bini man.

Ask why the new generation of Bini are trying to rewrite his book.

And why Bini bear Yoruba names but Yoruba don't bear Bini names.

Not even the ones that claim to come from Bini in Lagos.

I explained the origin of this Yoruba naming convention, it was due to the missionary activities of the early Yoruba Christians in some parts of Edo, also many communities a clear case is of the igarra people in Akoko-edo who everybody agrees that they are ebira but they also bare Yoruba names including surnames,it was simply due to Yoruba influence not origins,you must understand this,the Yoruba were quite influential in the past especially during the early colonial era

The thread never said they are Yoruba,ibilos cannot speak Yoruba,they don't worship Yoruba gods,they don't practice Yoruba culture, how are they Yorubas?

Simbrixton:
https://www.nairaland.com/2097102/brief-historical-origin-ibillo-community

This is a thread by a real Ibilo person

Your insecurities dan dey make u craze

Nobody dey come take una land

Were did it state they are Yoruba,I have written on this platform that the IFE origin myth is a myth and nothing else,there's no proof of it,

Simbrixton:
funny thing is tomorrow if an ibillo person wants to be governor

They wont vote them because they are yoruba

Ibilo are not Yoruba, having Yoruba names us the source of the confusion it was a fatal error by the grandfather's,they made a mistake

Simbrixton:
na your type no one vote Olumide Akpata but is still you that would claim he is bini

Make una stay 1 place make the thunder wey wan strike you

Strike you well

You are blabbing,am not from Edo state

Enugurangers:
This Agatu poster from Kogi state likes to post bullshit on Nairaland all the time. What concerns an Agatu man with Akoko Edo, Benin, Yoruba and Ife.

There's no agatu in kogi state

lexylaw09:
Op a bottle 🍾 of sniper will be okay for you to purge you of your hatred towards the Yoruba people.

You better go jump go do excursion for inside Lagoon. Or simply go back to your region

The truth is important

There is lazy system of history which the Yorubas are fund of .

They rely on only a limited source of written histories or tales and they rely totally and absolutely on these limited sources without question.

There are several and numerous researches even by Yoruba researchers on various Yoruba groups and neighbours, some are available online while some are only accessed via libraries.

In history studies all sides must be considered and conclusions are hardly made until authentic proofs are found.

What I have observed about Yoruba people is that they focus on few probably not well researched historic texts and jump to conclusions especially those that elevate the Yoruba status or claim other groups are derived from Yoruba.

This is a very unintelligent way of understanding history and origins what more from a people that claim to be intellectually advanced and sophisticated.

The popular claims of ile-ife origins of various nonyoruba groups have been severally debunked by independent researchers but they refuse to accept it.

Even within Yoruba itself ,various groups have different origin claims,eg the ijebu and parts of ondo and ekiti.

The Benin IFE relationship is dynamic and the claim of the ancestors of the oba of Benin being Yoruba is complex and cannot be as simple as the Oduduwa son ,oromiyan claim.

Some research as even faulted the claim that oromiyan founded Oyo.

There are modern books written that debunks alot of the IFE Oduduwa claims.

The fact is the Yorubas who were one of the earliest western educated groups in Nigeria propagated these ile-ife claims that elevated the Yoruba status among tribes,many other groups who received their early Western education later,in some cases via these Yoruba people unwittingly distorted their own history by picking their sources from the Yoruba documentation,modern research as debunked alot of these fake histories and claims by the Yoruba.

Akoko-edo is not Yoruba

Fulani killed scores yesterday, are igala people going to let the Fulani go Scot free like in Benue and plateau, it's time you prove yourselfs now.

LifeofDream:

Ibilo is not Yoruba or what do you just said?..

I've never met an ibilo that doesn't identify as a Yoruba, stop spreading falsehood on nairaland..

It's a big LIE ,there's hardly ibilo people that identify as Yoruba it's a terrible lie you are telling

Simbrixton:
there is literally a thread on nairaland written by someone from ibilo

Not only that an ibilo high society personal Ajayi wrote a book on their history

It is common place for edos today to change history to suit their tribal instinct

They never admitted they are Yorubas,