This is a deep truth

LifeofDream:

You're not an ogori, no ogori can deny his root... The ogori people have not for once deny their heritage..

The below is you in Jan 2022 saying ogori is akoko stock and should join Akoko Ondo or Akoko Edo. From your comments there, a reasonable mind can deduce you know nothing about ogori and you're not from there..
The second image show you in Dec 2022 saying another thing and trying to discredit the Yoruba heritage of the Ogori people.

You can only deceive the gullible, your hatred for Yoruba will be your demise..

Say wat ever you want,I know were am from,my both parents are from ogori, ogori is older than Yoruba and not of Yoruba roots.

My comment about Akoko stock,is tru,I also said here,that ogori has inputs from Akoko stock, I still stand on it,especially of Akoko-edo, even many Akoko ondo lay claim to Benin and not to IFE.

Many ogori do not know their origins and they assume because many have Yoruba surnames they are of Yoruba roots.

Ibadansun1:
Bruv,

I repeat! do you want me to burst your lies Mr Emergency Ogori man.

You don't know the first thing about the tribe

Many people from Ogori have tried to set you straight since 2022 but your hatred for Yorubas made you keep living in your lies.

Am a true born,you can never ever,discredit me

Ibadansun1:
What if I bring the Eulogy of Akerejola your late king

Do you promise to delete your moniker if I bust your lies?

Yes,Yoruba was included deliberately just as a play of words,it has no historical significance,

If you know the history of ogori kingship you'll understand, ogori kingship is not by birthright

Ibadansun1:
Can you recite his Eulogy

No

Ibadansun1:
Kabiyesi was clearly written in the Eulogy of their king

I suspect it's the Anglican church that forced them to accept that word or Kabiyesi is a Edo word that means Kabiyesasro

The boy is obviously a Bini boy.

Ogori king is hailed saaiki not kabiyeesi

Ibadansun1:
Iamgrey5 was banned by antispam bots for Trying to show the Eulogy of the king of Ogori clearly written in Yoruba language.

It doesn't mean a thing, if you know the history of ogori kingship you'll understand, do you know that there's currently an interregnum of kingship in ogori today,there's been no king since 1999, due to dispute

Ibadansun1:
lair I am back for you.

Iamgrey5 was banned for trying to expose you.

What is the king of Ogori called

King of ogori is called obin

forgiveness:


Where did you see prince went to Ogori from Ife?

The point remains that around the time Ogori left Ile Ife 500 years ago, all the people there had been conquered and assimilated.

How is it possible Ogori maintained a culture and language different from Yoruba? Hmmm!??

No evidence of any Yoruba conquering,ogori-magongo language is neither yoruboid nor edoid,its a unique language and culture. Ogori also has a history of crossing the river Niger and staying in idomaland for close to 200 years,all these point to the fact that the ogori, had a culture and history far from Yoruba.

Our history did not start 500 years ago

Iamgrey5:
The guy is a clown

Every article point to the origin of Ogori's Yoruba origin but the Ebira later immigration from Kararafa had significant influence on the land scape of Kogi in general.

No family in ogori traces it's paternal line to ebira,only maternal line.

The ENI Clan recalls traveling from Benin,

Ogoloko swords and ogori crown have been confirmed from Benin origins

Armaggedon:
dude is a 🤡 clown who doesn't know anything. He wants to play smart over Fulani influence but is not smart himself.

There's no Fulani influence in ogori

Armaggedon:
dude is a 🤡 clown who doesn't know anything. He wants to play smart over Fulani influence but is not smart himself.

You can insult all you want,but to God who made me am saying the truth

forgiveness:


They guy thought old Kwara was under Western region hence Ogori and Mangogo people were forcefully thought Yoruba which was the reason their older generation learnt Yoruba.

No bi lie be dat?

I never said so,ogori was previously placed under kabba province by the colonialist.

However,Yoruba was used to propagate Christianity in Akoko-edo,ogori zone as it was a neutral language, some sort of lingua franca like English due to the fact that the zone comprising of numerous small villages which spoke different Languages.

Ogori was the first village in the whole Akoko-ondo, Akoko-edo zone to establish a primary school,the Anglican agents and the church propagated Yoruba language in the school and church. infact ogori were the ones who then preached and propagated Christianity to all that zone using Yoruba language.

forgiveness:


Many followed Oranmiyan to Benin and married the indigenes to create Yoruba indigenous group. In addition, there was long wars that eventually dethroned the Ogiso and established the royal house.

However, emergence from Ife at that time of migration which was just 500 years ago significantly signifies Yoruba origin because that area large and by were conquered and assimilated by Oduduwa.

For Ogori though it doesn't have any history of following oramiyan though,infact the reason stated for OGORI leaving IFE was banishment due to failure to fulfil sacrifices or discontentment by a so called prince.

There's no story of this prince in ile-ife, there's no story of this so called banishment in ile-ife

The story is concocted

forgiveness:


Exactly! There's no need arguing with him.

You people are talking about articles, am talking as a confirmed indigene from both parents and having read authentic books,written by even a former king,he never acknowledged Yoruba,only association with Yoruba he mentioned in that book was that ogori might have some indirect connection with Yoruba,the key word is indirect.

Which family did the so called akinbiyi come from in IFE?, which was his clan in IFE? etc.

The online articles are gotten from a historically discredited book by Gideon eyika.
It was written in 2003, so it was mostly widely available and people copied from it to post it online.

The authentic history written through painstaking research by a most reverred king in ogori was written in the 60s and is not available to most people.

You are just relying on online articles and basing all your arguments on copy and paste online articles

forgiveness:


Benin the corruption of Ilu Ibinu people are Ife married with Edos. Infact, the official language in the Obas palace was Yoruba before oyinbo came. Meaning, majority of Benin people have their descent from Ife but today they claim Benin.

Emergence from IFE doesn't even signify Yoruba origins,IFE was a mixture of people's ,however the IFE origins ot benin tale is discredited,probably only the royal house

Iamgrey5:
Who discredited it?

Lair

Show me one newspaper article or journal article discrediting it.

It is obvious you are not from that place because majority of Ogori Magogo speak Yoruba language fluently.

And before you lie that it's because of Yoruba politics. Ogori/Mangogo has always been in northern Nigeria control since independence.

It's a lie,majority of ogori that speak Yoruba are the older generation, from the 80s Yoruba stopped being thought in schools younger generation do not speak except they lived in yorubaland.

It is discredited by indigenes in traditional discussions, however they are some articles on it,you can search online for it.

You also forget that ogori was previously under kabba province right

Iamgrey5:
The guy is a clown

Every article point to the origin of Ogori's Yoruba origin but the Ebira later immigration from Kararafa had significant influence on the land scape of Kogi in general.

Ebira had no influence on ogori except by marriage, there's no family in ogori that traces it's fathers line to ebira only mothers line

Iamgrey5:
I never knew Yoruba is the official language of the Anglican church

Meanwhile, Anglican church had mission across the middlebelt region of Nigeria, so how come it was only Ogori people that were forced to learn and speak fluent Yoruba?

Why not Ebira, Igala, Idoma etc.

Is Yoruba the language spoken in heaven

You have been found out sir.

Yoruba language was used by the Anglican Church in the Akoko-edo zone,ogori and ebira.

Both my folks are from ogori,they too acknowledge learning Yoruba from schools ,go to ogori today,no one born n bred there can speak Yoruba except they learn it,ask any ogori older gen person they'll tell you,no one speaks Yoruba naturally in ogori.

It's not even a second language, but online it's stated that it's a second language in ogori,this is a misconception of outsiders about ogori

Iamgrey5:
Let us see links to the book now

Abi are you the only one that knows about this book.

They are no links,they were written in the 60s and 70s .you can look for the physical copy.

Contact any one in ogori to get it for you.

forgiveness:


It was clearly stated in their history they came from Ife. Oludo was the first settler in one quarter while Akinbuyi in another quarter.

Unagogo was Oludo's son which later metaphor to Magogo.

Either ways, they migrated from Ile Ife but has somehow changed in language.

This are discredited online histories,buy books.

Including the history of mangogo,only one clan of mangogo acknowledges IFE as it's origins,however it is disputed.

Iamgrey5:
Babasolution

You should provide the article that backed the gibberish you have been saying here.

Terrible lair

Yoruba people are not the cause of your problems.

It's books,written by former king of ogori and a prominent historian.

Go and look for the books and buy.

I stated the names there.

It's not article or online gibberish

Iamgrey5:
@ emboldened

The biggest clown in history of Nairaland

Ogori Mangogo was never under the control of western region of Nigeria or Yoruba government ever.


Please research before telling baseless lies


Thank you

You the one lieing,
The older generation were taught Yoruba through the Anglican mission which established Christianity and education in ogori,their mode of communication for church activities was Yoruba.

This is factual

Till today,the Anglican Church in ogori conducts it's service in Yoruba.

They were they agents of yorubanization in ogori and magongo

Again,you are the one lieing

You are insulting me for no reason

You are emotive

Iamgrey5:
The guy is lying

There's no point in history that Ogori Magogo trace their origin to Benin

Ogori Magogo are hybrid of Ebira and Yoruba just like the Akoko Edo people.

Ogori is not an hybrid of ebira and Yoruba,OGORI doesn't have any Yoruba association, as an indigene I can tell you this,no ogori person can naturally speak Yoruba unless they learn it,the older generation were taught Yoruba in schools.

Ogori doesn't historically worship Yoruba gods,they have very minimal Yoruba culture, but plenty Benin related culture.

Yoruba naming convention started after ogori fled to ijebu owo during the Nupe wars and also during colonial times.

Ogori historically married many ebira women,this explains the ebira influence in ogori otherwise ogori has no relationship with ebira.

No family in ogori can trace it's origin in any part of Yoruba land,not even their Yoruba neighbours in okun or Akoko.

The ENI clan particularly recalls it's time in Benin.

There are ogoloko swords in ogori thought to emerge from Benin

Ogori crown is of Benin mould,it has been confirmed as recently as 1979.

Iamgrey5:


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Ogori-Magongo people are said to have descended from an adventurous prince of Ile Ife, one of the earliest settlements of the Yoruba ethnic nation. However the language of the community is said to have developed from an admixture of various languages usually referred to as ena (new language – Osheidu, 1990:15). Ò̩kọ, as the language…

https://okolanguage.com/tag/magongo/#:~:text=Ogori%2DMagongo%20people%20are%20said,Osheidu%2C%201990%3A15).


You are a lair

This history tale from this website is gotten from the book written by Gideon eyika called the people and culture of ogori,it has been discredited as not factual.

The authentic history is the one written by the late ologori GB Akerejola( history of ogori) and the one written by Baba. Oshiedu ( historical facts on ogori) quoted here which also as some disputed facts pertaining to the formation of the language,it has been proven that ogori language is not ena,it is not a mixture but an aborigine language.

The adventurous prince issue of ogori called akinbiyi as been discredited.There was no akinyibi.It is a concocted tale to legitimise ogori royalty during the colonial times.unFortunately people like this website run with it and mislead people like you.

Iamgrey5:
What is your history?

Where are your people originally from?

Who is founding members of your community

According to history books written by a late king and another prominent historian from the community, they admitted that they can't decipher the exact origins of ogori-magongo.

However,history records that they were once in Benin due to some ancient swords of Benin make that ogori possesses and the ogori crown which is confirmed to be of Benin make,but ogori was probably in Benin as visitors and didn't originate from there.

Some clans also recall presence in the owo,Akoko zone as passersby probably on the journey from benin before finally settling in their current location

Some clans recall presence in as far as idomaland crossing the river Niger from the east end into ajaokuta and okpella axis,then to the northern Edo axis before settling in their current abode.

Note: that the okpella which isn't too far from ogori have in their history that they met an aborigine group called okwo in the lands they currently are.

Ogori actually call themselves okwo.so it probably might have been the same group.

Some narratives also state IFE origins but it's highly disputed and as been refuted by many historians within the community.

Some clans also state that they are autochonos and didn't migrate from anywere,the language highly supports this view.

In summary ,ogori seems to have a very ancient history, forming from an autochonos/aborigine group and later migrants from close by mainly from Benin and the Akoko zone.

Note: ogori arrived and had formed way before the ebira coming to that zone

Founding members include onu,adubane,oso,and ENI,however the name ogori is a corruption of the name of an ancestor called igoli,while mangogo is the corruption of the name of another ancestor called unagogo

Iamgrey5:
There are no Yorubas in Ogori Magogo?

Yes,both are non Yoruba communities

Iamgrey5:
There are no Yorubas in Ogori Magogo?

Yes, ogori/mangogo are both non Yoruba communities,that's my hometown

LifeofDream:

That's true, just noticed Kogi central is just five local governments.. Usually thought it includes the lokoja and kogi local government..

Yea,those are under kogi west

LifeofDream:

What's their population in those places?..

Most of the people you call Hausa are actually not Hausa.. Yoruba population in Kwara state number over 2.5 million... The Yoruba people in kogi have the largest landmass with a population of approximately 1 million people. The whole kogi west and some part of kogi central is Yoruba land. There's no way the egbira outnumber the Yoruba in kogi, there's a lot of controversy surrounding the kogi population..

No part of kogi central is yorubaland

LocalStandard1:


I don't like commenting on Nairaland but sometimes I feel really dissapointed in the amount of uninformed and poorly educated and rational minded people on here.
"Lack of religion" or them being "white" is far from the answer you're looking for.

Have you also asked why Japan, like many of these "peaceful" countries have the highest suic*de rates and depression and anxiety rates more than anywhere else by a wide margin?

Do you know what Japanese old people specifically go through and making their age range have even higher suicide rates on average?

It is a known fact that younger people and groups are more likely to be involved in crime. Nigeria, like all African countries, have the youngest population in the world together with African countries also being more recent. of course you'd find more vices in these places!

Japan, like about all so-called "developed countries", but Japan especially have the oldest populations in the world. The country is literally slowly dying out and fast aging to oblivion. Most of these countries leaders are begging their citizens to have more children, they're ready to pay money to be where Africa is in terms of population and demographics, something both we and the heads calling themselves "leaders" can not see and don't know how to take advantage of.

Not all that glitters is gold, appreciate your position and then you can see that it's an advantage. these countries have the most brutal history so they're not ignorant or immune to criminal tendencies, they have set the standards to raw crime. Something very unfathomable is currently happening to them.

All of their leaders have come out publicly to beg they have more children, they have special packages and incentives for pregnant women and even men with pregnant wives. Italy, France, the UK, Japan, China, South Korea, Iran, the US and Canada are solving it with mass immigration in, Russia, even North Korean leader cried on live television begging for more children. You name them, all of them.

by 2050 Africa will have about 40% of the Young people in the whole world, it's Africa's time only if we realize it. Reason why they're forcing down lgbt down our oesophagus, they don't want it like this.

It is a lie,Japan will never die,population is not a Problem anywere in the world, it can easily be fixed in the developed world if they do away with lgbt

Antitankweapon:

Yes,you people should STOP whitewashing the Hausa,they are inline with the Fulani, along with the Nupe to attack innocent communities.

They are not brainwashed, they are in on it with the Fulani