Lawag3:



OK let's deal with facts now I not dey like piontless argument.


There are pictures of shrapnel from the missile. Even Hezbollah claimed they targeted Golani military base nothing got to the base guess where is on the road to the base? The very town the missile hit.

What's your proof that's it's an Israeli missile

Where are the pictures of the so called sharpnel that made it a Falaq missile? So we can all assess...there have been claims and counter claims from both sides and unless an independent investigation is carried, nothing will the blame be baseless.

Lawag3:


The debris is a Falak 1 missile there were videos of the incident before even the paramedics and The IDF got there.

Where is the debris?

We ain't dumb from this axis to be choking on IDF claim of assessment...an unreliable FACT.

Lawag3:


A big lie the iron dome interceptors don't even carry a up to half of what the missile that hit majdal.

The leader of the Druze community in Lebanon and the Golan heights all said it was Hezbollah.

Which local source gave that lie

Half of which missile?

What was the level of damage cause by this bomb...so you mean an 11kg warhead is a joke to me?

Stop sniffing shit unhinged. Man!

BlueRayDick:
Not like I support this guy’s arrest nor interested in the subject matter of their discussion o; but I do wonder why do people take online arguments too serious ?

Like why do u feel the need to call someone’s bluff and track him to an address he dropped online in the course of an argument ?

Do people not have fears anymore ? What if the address the guy dropped was a ritualist/kidnappers’ den? What if u get there and they harvest ur organ ?

Walahi!

That guy must be a nairalander

Vic2023:
🇺🇸🇮🇱World War III could start if Kamala Harris wins the election.

Presidential candidate Trump stated this at a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Fox News reports.

“If we don't win (the elections), you'll end up with big wars in the Middle East. And perhaps World War III. We are now closer to World War III than at any time since World War II. We've never been closer to it because we have incompetent people running the country," Trump said.

That joke coming from a clown who is threatening fire and brimstone...only duckheads are impressed.


Kwa! Kwa!! Kwa!!!

This episode needs to be rated...Idf! 10/10

motayoayinde:


There won't be much to worry about actually if your Israeli Daft Forces don't go about targeting people in the markets, mosques, churches and prisons rather than Hezbollah.

It will be mutual...if IDF go on targeting Lebanon infrastructure, Hezbollah will do the same with Israeli infrastructure. Like Naz said no ceiling no rules.


Lebanon. Economy is already in nothing to write about...but the Israeli economy will be barterd.

officialwdhtv:
"Someone stole $69 Billion USD and nothing was done about it" - Former Chairman of Presidential Panel for Recovery of Public Property (SPIP), Okoi Ofem Obono-Obla speaks on corruption in Nigerian government.

Take a listen!!!

#wetindeyhappentv


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcPqlcCFov4

69 billion dollars...thats an exaggeration.



Or maybe he meant to say 69 million dollars.

Taking other wife was his right...any woman who's getting married to a Muslim should know that. He also accused her of been fetish a serious case which I believe can be resolve without him beating her up.





The beating part for me was avoidable...Jarus Fup on the one.

obedience4:


did the houtis provide any proof, the USA navy never posted any video, they only release a statement debunking the news

the captain only made a video to debunk the news,it was a live video and not an old video.


it was a propaganda platform that posted a old video of the carrier not the USA navy.

the houtis have posted videos of ships they hit, yet they never release any video proof to back their claims.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/06/23/houthi-claims-of-attack-on-us-aircraft-carrier-are-false-us-officials-say.html


https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/us-aircraft-carrier-counters-false-houthi-claims-taco-111174379

if you read the news you will see that journalist even went to the carrier and found no damage.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/amp/us-denies-houthis-struck-uss-eisenhower/7643392.html#ip=1

this is clearly a case of disinformation

What live video did he make? He posted a video taken before the incident and we all watched it...what journalist visited the Carrier without real video evidence touring the Carrier?


Disinformation can be tagged on both parties none that the truth will ever come out.


Know I don't hate the USA but I just like to be indifferent sometimes man



But then again no mere missile can sink a Carrier.

Appleyard:


Logically, the old video they put out gave them away that they're hiding something.

When the Houti made that claim...I was like nahhhhh! that's an impossicant..but the US Navy changed my thoughts with the video they provided.

Appleyard:


The US has gamed these type of scenario several times and the result is always the same: some drones always went through the layered defenses.

Nonetheless, if the carrier is operating far away from shore, the lesser the drone swarm success rate would become.

Very well stated...a Carrier far away from shore is unlikely to be hit by drones.

Appleyard:


But again, that would be almost impossible to achieve.because, carrier strike groups are designed to stay close within the geographical proximity of their target. And this will depend on if the enemy had advanced defenses.

Of course against a well equipped navy and airforce...a carrier operating far from shore will find more impossible to carryout it objectives...close to shore will also put it in danger even with it escorts.

Appleyard:

If the enemy has little to no defense, the carrier can sit say a 100 to 200 miles away from the enemy's coastline. In theory, a carrier can sit and strike thousands of miles away from an enemy's shoreline, but the further away from the shore the lower the sorties and ordinances it can drop. Plus, it would have to expend huge refuelling assets for a very small strike force.

Couldn't agree more. 👍

Obedience40:


No USA Carrier was hit

We will never know...and the "NO" is just your believe not FACT.

Obedience40:

you make assumptions base on reality on ground,and the realities is what I have carefully explained

You claim on reality of ground is also what Appleyard argument is based on...you can't try to trash his own analysis just because it does not go your way.

And to that test of reality...we have seen what saturated attack can do even against advance multi layered defence systems during Iran attack on Israel....despite allied combined defence Iran still scored a hit..that alone is reality.

Obedience40:

have a nice day ahead.

You too bro.

Obedience40:


Good question, a Carrier group doesn't operate in shallow waters or waters close to shore.

all he wrote are base on one hypothesis, the carrier group are caught unaware, me and you know that is in impossible, in a age of sophisticated radars how will a massive wave of drone move undetected.

nothing like new reality sir, all he wrote are rubbish, and sadly isn't practicable.

Hypothetical is what we all do factually Friend

The USA Carrier have yet to come across that kind of threat none that this defence system have engaged such threat on land or at the sea. So yours and his summation are all hypothetical....base theory...



The USA carrier that was supposedly hit by Houthi had all this system in place...even though no real time proof that this Mighty Carrier was hit...the USA providing an old video as a counter leaves room for suspicion for us all. We can go all and allover again with this to no end.

Obedience40:



you should take time to read about the USA based sea air defence, "Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System" those destroyers ships are actually are actually air defences which were incorporated into ships as a sea leg of the USA missile defence program.

the USA navy carrier don't operate in shallow waters but deep inside the ocean, that means any drone attack launch from the land would have to travel a bit of a distance to attack it which gives the strke group time to react.

no Carrier group oprates in hostile water's, were it can be easily attacked, it nuclear reactors gives it unlimited range, in a war with a capable enemy like China, the USA carrier's would likely operates far from missiles range and use its aircraft to attack, the essence of a aircraft Carrier is to be able to fighter jets close enough to the battle ground.

I get your point's thou, a group of drones attacking a Carrier group would definitely score a point, the key for carriers is "deterrence" using it's jets and it's escorts long range missles to hit target before they get close.

Now you talking dear friend... Aegis system itself might be good but won't survive certain attacks.

Masterviolence:


This is a very factual and realistic write-up.

This is obviously how things will play out.
Many on this platform claiming an iran vs israel war will see israel destroyed don't know that iran will never rise again if they face off with israel without acquiring nukes, we all know that israel can't fight iran alone, hence a war with israel is a war with the u.s and the u.s will brutally execute that war turning iran to an inhabitable stone age scenerio.
The 2 reasons, the u.s has not gone to war with this people is the lack of evidence to invade iran.
Secondly is the reaction of other superpowers if the the u.s decide to invade with the IDF without genuine reasons.

I actually rushed to check the moniker hoping it was one of those dump western folks parading this thread only to be disappointed that it was you.
I know deep inside me that non of those slaves can put together such factual statement.

Iran without nukes is still an impossible mission for the USA and baby Israel...in any event of war Israel won't survive it and the USA will be bodied.


The only reason the USA hasn't invaded Iran is the FACT that it will destabilize the entire region and anyone who dares to give the USA a corridor for engagement. Coming in by sea will be costly in equipment and human resources. Americans don't like seeing body bags. War in Iran is the definition of HELLFIRE

Appleyard:


Early detection is one thing, how many drones you can engage simultaneously in a matter of minutes is another thing entirely. It's obvious you're new to this topic.

How many air defense missiles does surface ships carry in their arsenals? By the time they succeed in taking out most of the drones in the swarm, the ships might have run out of interception missiles. In a near peer scenario in the real world, facts have proven that there is no 100% success rate of intercepting a drone swarm from close proximity, especially with advanced drones both at sea and in the air. The Ukraine war should be your eye-opener. The damage the Shaheeds and Lancets have done to Ukraine is there for all to see, and we are talking about a battlefield with one of the most policed and contested air and sea space in modern warfare history. Talk about NATO's "All seeing eye" and OSINT, alongside Ukraine's capable air defenses, which offers a formidable multilayered air coverage for the Ukraine. Still, Mr Lancet and Sultan Shaheed always find their way to their targets.

Citing Iranian drone attack on Israel is a weak argument. A coalition of countries had to come together to help intercept those drones that were flying from 1200 km from their launch sites in Iran, giving Israel many hours of a heads-up ahead. In fact, it would have been a complete failure on Israel and the coalition part had they failed to take down the drones because, not only do they have the quantity of the right interception assets but many hours ahead to prepare. Moreover, the long distance and the single flight path they were flying gave the coalition a predictable and one-way flight path to map and take them out. But take the Hezbollah scenario for instance, many of their drones have caused and still causing havoc in Israel as we speak. Even the US you're talking about is now developing their own drone swarm capability, with the "protection" of Taiwan in mind. If it doesn't and won't work, why venture into it. It works and could cause serious damage to any country' surface ships no matter the strength of that country. Ukrainian drones both at sea and air based have recorded some success against Russia's sea based military and civilian assets, despite the Russian formidable defense and EW capabilities.

Take it or leave it, drone and AI driven missile capabilities are the Hallmark of the current and future of modern conventional warfare.

Of course, Obeideince40 needs to calm down and agree to this new reality


But then again will it be possible with the Carrier operating far from the shore.

emmaodet:


I don't know if a diesel-electric submarine operates differently from a diesel -electric ship but from my experience working on a Diesel -electric ship for about 4 years now, this is how it works compared to conventional diesel ship -
The diesel -electric ship uses diesel to power it's generators which inturn powers it's electric motors that powers the propulsion and everything on ship while a conventional ship uses diesel to start it's main engines that power the propulsion engines while generators work by the side powering electrical equipment onboard.
I doubt ships run on batteries alone for propulsion. Batteries are used to power critical equipment onboard that uses 220/440v and not heavy equipment or propulsion engines like propellers and rudders not steering gears

Of course it works differently...and no ship can run on battery alone...we are not there yet.


As for the sub argument...it simple as desiel electric powered sub are far more quieter than their nuclear counterpart.

The Diesel-electric powered sub has AIP system that uses tensed HO2 tube to generate power that keeps the battery alive for a longer period of time underwater.


What makes it more quieter than a nuclear sub is the fact that Nuclear sub uses reactor to generate heat to a degree that turns water to steam air into turning turbines for power...note heat part in which the reactor needs to keeping pumping to keep circulation... This process makes it more noises than it diesel-electric counterpart that uses an already stored H2O2 for that purpose.




All in all once for fire...your location will be known and bleeped hard by opponents.

Vl3ly:
⚡️🇷🇺 Russia is now reportedly employing Iranian-made Arash kamikaze UAVs in Ukraine.

— The first attacks using the Arash drones were reported near Ochakov in the Mykolaiv region.

— Initially, the UAVs were mistaken for cruise missiles, but an examination of the debris revealed that they resembled the Iranian Arash-1 or Arash-2 UAVs.

— The Arash and Arash-2 are long-range loitering munitions, also known as kamikaze drones, that have been used by the Iranian military since 2020.

— The Arash-2 has a reported strike range of up to 2,000 km and can carry a 150 kg warhead.

— This drone is a larger and more advanced version of the original Arash, with a wingspan of up to 4 meters and a length of 4.5 meters.

— Additionally, there have been reports that Russia has ordered a substantial number of Arash-2 drones from Iran.

What are the odds that Hezbollah might already have this drone in it arsenal, or still reverse engineer it.


Israel is going for a rocky dive.

Obedience40:



Even a hybrid system, still won't be stealthier than a nuclear sub, you can look that up.

a nuclear powered sub gives you unlimited range, and survivability.

a good example is Australia cancelling it's electric diesel sub deal with France, in favour nuclear powered sub deal of the AKUS coalition with the UK and USA.

so funny we are talking Subs you are bringing cars into the mix, do car's used propulsion system to powdered it's engine, dose a v12 uses nuclear reactors??

we are talking the survivability of a Sub under the water man's is talking about an electric car😆😆😆

that reply wasn't for you dude, it was for the samurai.

You guz should just die this submarine argument for God sake...whether stealth and non-stealth, a sub is only dangerous when it has not been detected...once it fires it first shot, it's a dead meat already.


In this modern time..subs are primarily for deterrent...combat is secondary.

NTSA:
Police officer takes a break to wipe tears after inhaling teargas in Nairobi CBD

Did it happen during the protest?

kemicalreact:


I am normally a ghost reader, but I gotta laugh at the stupidity of this post.

What's stupid in it?

Alamkir:


Don't mind him, the niggerr still think this is 1999. Na cheap drones dem go use finish Israel

The IDF is walking into a trap that might consume it.

obedience4:



It was supposed to be "sound" instead of "
"light" a error on my part.

We might not know about the capabilities of hazebollah par it's air defences, but we can gauge from Iran, using Iran as the benchmark.
There is no quality Air defence system being operated by Iran, and Iran is the major backer, major weapons supplier of the hazebollah group.

What do you mean by Iran's lacks quality air defence system? We all knew how an Israel F16 got shoot down by Syria S200 AD...and how Israel denied the damaged caused by same S200AD to its F35.

No aircraft invincible...Iran at the moment has proven its capability to deal with Israel in any confrontation as we've seen during the consulate saga. Iran's AD is still more capable in its duty.

obedience4:

the group hazebollah is also know to always flunt it's weapons, and have not seen them published any AD system, also the iDF had conducted many airstrikes in Lebanon, they weren't engaged by surface to air missiles.

If Hezbollah did possess a SAM system as speculated by experts...and the last incident of possible engagement that led to the retreat of the Israel jets. Then it is a concern for the IDF, as no one knows what Hezbollah still has in store.

Konkoja:


On one hand, you don't trust MSM, at the same time you lift stories from MSM that fits your narrative. This is an example of why you are a joke on this forum.

Both sides are guilty....the USA is very unfortunate at the moment.

OLAADEGBU:
Convicted Felons
Tom Stiglich June 8, 20244

What an insult to Ghandi and Mandela


I don't like Biden...but you Trumpist are clowns.

Straybullet:
Can't Google earth give you these pics?, these are open air spaces that satellites have access to. If hezbollah could shoot at these site they would have. So to me this is nonsense.

Israel is killing your commanders, you're filming boats 😄 🤣 😂 😆 😄

Googled earth


🤡

WriteerNg:
⚡The Israeli army announced that it has approved combat plans for an offensive in Lebanon today.

Netayahoo is finally going mad..Offensive in Lebanon is nemesis in waiting.

Captainero:
He said his name is General ASABUJA, and his mission is to help Governor Fubara to deal with all Wike's supporters in Rivers state.

We don't want our dear Rivers to to back to militant era.

Fubara Why?

🤡

obedience4:


Don't waste your TIME on that dude,
Posted a picture showing three sky scrappers and tag it infrastructural development

Just imagine...looks like infrastructural development now has another meaning on here.

Procashtips:


As usual, you actually thought I would engage you in an endless "convo?

I will pass

Procashtips:


Bro I don't have the time to run in circle. What you need are on X, Tiktok and Yandex.

You won't find enough on Google, IG or Facebook because of those hiding them.

X, Tiktok


You are not serious...