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homesteady: this rubbish stuppid AntispamBot banned me since and I've been mailing the mods to release me, they did not It even hid my comment!

It did same to me last season, and I don't know the reason why

Very freakïng annoying

ElFenomeno1: No team will ever do that again..........

In the EPL you mean?

usbcable: see my earlier post on Sevilla and inconsistency

Guess you know them so well
They fizzled out last season and Bilbao took advantage. Valencia should come good though or what do you think?

usbcable: my heart cut too when I saw d score.

Yeah, and to think Sevilla has been playing wonderfully well prior to that match

Did anyone watch Atleti demolish Sevilla?

Those guys have still got it

Ah! Rooney

raumdeuter: Why would German FA care about overseas fans at the Expense of local fans. Like coogar told you many English people are already complainingbut No problem as long as the fan in Isolo and Abule Egba is happy.

I read about a man who drives every weekend from England to germany to watch football because he prefers the atmosphere there.

He said in EPL e.g Arsenal most people who watch in stadium are tourist fans who are just there to take pictures and even have a problem cheering the team, more interested in pictures and selfies while in Germany its a fan heaven

In Germany football is for the FAN. Check the top 20 stadium attendance and see how many German clubs there

No. Club Stadium Attendance
1 Borussia Dortmund Signal Iduna Park 80,521
2 FC Barcelona Camp Nou 75,844
3 Manchester United Old Trafford 75,387
4 Real Madrid Santiago Bernabeu 74,564
5 Bayern Monachium Allianz Arena 69,000
6 FC Schalke 04 Veltins Arena 61,218
7 Arsenal FC Emirates Stadium 60,000
8 VfB Stuttgart Mercedes Benz Arena 55,090
9 Hamburger SV Imtech Arena 53,465
10 Hertha BSC Olympiastadion Berlin 53,449
11 Borussia M-gladbach Borussia Park 51,847
12 Celtic FC Celtic Park 50,904
13 Ajax Amsterdam Amsterdam ArenA 50,147
14 Newcastle United St. James Park 49,936
15 AC Milan San Siro 49,020
16 1. FC Köln RheinEnergie Stadion 47,482
17 Manchester City Etihad Stadium 47,035
18 Rangers FC Ibrox Stadium 46,362
19 Hannover 96 AWD Arena 44,826
20 FC Inter San Siro 44,806

Hmmmn

And to think of how the EPL is more popular and the BuLi hardly gets viewers except if it's a Bayern vs Dortmund

raumdeuter: Viewing center where? In Bariga? You think German FA cares about some fans in Nigeria?

Whats the use when fans in Surulere pack viewing centers to watch and the fans in Cologne cant even see their hometown team on TV? A boy who lives next door makes it into Hamburg first team and you cant see him on TV or in stadium but they should be happy fans in Sulaja pack viewing centers to watch?

Their fan base is lower yet they fill the stadium weekly

The league is first and foremost for the local citizens those abroad are just bonus

http://www.stadiumguide.com/figures-and-statistics/lists/europes-highest-attendances/

A division 2 team Fotuna dusseldorf has more stadium attendance than Liverpool and Atletico. What could be better than having 60,000 plus people packing the stadium every weekend

Oh I see

So no need for overseas fans?

raumdeuter: What has this got to do with anything you are arguing here? Looks like you have no point as usual

Or let me help you out.

Can you put your main point in 2 sentences?

It's a different discourse. Not what we're arguing

raumdeuter: There is no way a team would be changing key component every season and not lose momentum. Atletico would have preferred to keep Costa but they had to sell because Barca is taking all the money.

They beat Madrid yet they are still behind Madrid in the league as we speak. Atletico that didnt lose a single game in the CL last season in regulation time this season started by losing their first game to Olympiakos. ANyone would see they have lost something which they might or might not reach again

Mandzukic was a striker we had no intention of keeping and gave him away. Lets see Atletico come to buy a player Bayern wants to keep. How much was Mandzukic sold for? WHy wont they be able to afford him when they sell their best striker

Your excuses are always structured for conveniency. A player as good as Mandzukic is one Bayern wanted to keep, you should really consider comedy

So you expect them to have the same run in the UCL as they had last season? Seriously?
It's a fact teams would watch them well and take them more serious given their fairy tale run last season, or why didn't Dortmund reach the semi final last season after they reached the final in 2013?

coogar: guardiola was talking nonsense.....
united got di maria for £60m. who in their current squad is worth that amount? kroos was £20m. that's almost thrice the amount we paid for angel.

Maybe robben would go for £200m and mullre £180m

So much for a butchered league

coogar: van gaal is slacking -
there must be top quality defenders in serbia. buy the top 2 centre halves in the 2 top teams for £5m each & bring them to england. there's 90% guarantee one of them would be better than vidic was for us.



to be honest, your model is the best!
i dunno if it's because the brand is not as attractive as the premier league or the fact that your FA are not greedy bästards.

the gate fee is very very cheap! students pay close to peanuts to watch games and the games are live on TV. fans are starting to protest in england & several cases are in the EU courts concerning TV broadcast of live games.

i still think it's a disgrace that man utd fans cannot watch their team's 3pm game live on saturday in 2014. they keep lying to us that they are censoring it to preserve stadium attendance.

You'd think


How many times do you watch the BuLi?
I don't see fans going to a viewing center exclusively for German football. The fan base is low compared to the EPL

You spend money to make money

raumdeuter: Judging? Does it take much to see that Atletico would struggle this season when they have to sell their best players, definitely the new players would need time to settle in and lose momentum.

Money helps to win consistently. When Barca takes all the money and leave others with crumb that means they would suffer. The league winners cant even pay 37% of their bills so how would they consistently remain competitive.

Atletico bought a striker who was deemed surplus to requirement at Bayern, They would have preferred to keep Costa but since you guys have all the money, they cant.

The problems most La Liga teams have is that Barca takes a hge chunk of the money and they have to feed on crumbs. If Barca is playing fairly the league winners wont be earning 100m less than the 3rd placed team

Of course they're struggling. If your definition of struggling is beating Real madrid twice already, and winning the super cup, then I love that kind of struggles. You always tend to overlook the positives.

They've always sold their best players and still did well (forlan, aguero, costa) so I'm sure they'll fare well, compared to BuLi teams and if Pep said man utd couldn't afford bayern stars, I wonder how a 'poor' club like atleti can afford mandzukic.

Barca make what they earn, it's not oppression it's prestige

raumdeuter: This structure gives Barca the advantage, You think if they give Bayern and say Man Utd the freedom to negotiate the deals what would be left?

If Germany and England employs the same rule, then maybe 5 teams would be left in the league
Last yr in England Liverpool made the most and they didnt win the league.
England has pay per view where viewers pay to watch the league thus make more in TV revenue.
In Germany the game is shown freely and ensures it reaches a bigger audience thats what the football followers want in the country. WHich is why stadiums are getting full and the viewers are excited.

So full stadiums means less fans watch on TV? In a country like Germany?
The EPL makes much from both the match revenues and fan views.

It still explains little as to why cardiff earns twice as much as almighty bayern. A league that has record numbers of fans attendance should be able to do more

raumdeuter: So whats the big deal with winning one season? How sustainable is it? for over 10yrs a club not named Barca or Madrid(who make the chunk of the money) couldnt win the league.
Deportivo that won the La Liga sometime back were in relegation for several yrs recently
Atletico Madrid won the league and their financial situation is still so terrible that they have to sell all their key players because Barcelona takes all the money

How have private investments helped Atletico from selling all their players, Helped Malaga from going into bankrutcy and even getting penalised by UEFA, How have those helped Valencia from going into financial problems.

Is it the media that makes Atletico unable to pay their bills? or media that makes Santander unable to pay wages

It's not even mid season yet and you're judging already. Who told you they (atleti) can't sustain it? If Schalke wins the BuLi this season, will it suddenly make them richer than Bayern? Answer on a postcard

It takes consistency and investment to sustain success, and atleti are on the right track, they might not be rich but they still bought your best striker (mandzukic)

And the way you blame everything on Barca is just pathetic

coogar: what a goal by jaglieka!!!



come on, bro!
which private investor would waste their funds on all those 3rd-tier la liga sides? investors would rather put that money on stoke fc or burnley.

the money is in england - la liga is doing nothing to package their product. they need to start playing early afternoon games to capture the asian fans. they have done nothing in the US as well.

I get it bros. No one is claiming saint
Yeah the EPL has more fans and sponsors but you still can't throw out prestige and honor of giants like Barca and Real madrid, that's why the van nistelroy and CR7 can leave Man utd for Real madrid in their peak

I like your early afternoon matches (it's being done more this season) and they're garnering Asian and American fans by buying their best players

raumdeuter: Show us any link that says any German club owes their player. Or where any German club has declined to play a game because of unpaid salary like it happens in Spain

Its Barcas fault, If Barca wasnt taking the chunk of the money and leaving everyone else with crumbs the clubs would be going into administration. Malaga had to do an auction on their players, If Barca hadnt cannibalized the league then Santander wouldnt have problems paying players





Thats what Barcelona has turned La Liga into, Other clubs have to start selling their possesions to break even because Barca is cannibalising the league



Then maybe they should have a league where Barca plays itself alone.

Germany shares the money based on your league position which makes sense, while Madrid that finished 3rd made 100m more than the league winners. You think if they allow every team to negotiate deals own their own, I can tell you the number of teams that would be left in the whole of Spain, England Italy and Germany combined would be less than 20

Its a SHAME, LA Liga is a SHAM

And all this is Barca's fault?
Ok, Barca gets more but as you can read, it's cos they market themselves well enough. Every league has their strategies. If the policy in England and Germany are that good, why is cardiff earning more than Bayern, given that both leagues share according to position, is the BuLi that wretched?

coogar: dayo is right!
real madrid & barcelona were allowed to negotiate their TV deals independently while the others are left with scraps. the top 2 teams got stronger & the bottom teams can't attract star players & their revenue is shyte.

if the same ish is done here in england, i am pretty sure teams like chelsea & arsënal would have been put out of business many moons ago. only £24m in prize money separates the champions of england & the 20th team on the table. this is to make the competition fairer.

And yet Atletico madrid won la liga last season and got to the UCL final
I bet you didn't see that happening given their finances and Barca and Real's advantages.

Private investment can do the magic, you don't get jealous of rich clubs cos they're rich, attractive or marketable

It's not as bad as the media make it look

coogar: dayo is right!
real madrid & barcelona were allowed to negotiate their TV deals independently while the others are left with scraps. the top 2 teams got stronger & the bottom teams can't attract star players & their revenue is shyte.

if the same ish is done here in england, i am pretty sure teams like chelsea & arsënal would have been put out of business many moons ago. only £24m in prize money separates the champions of england & the 20th team on the table. this is to make the competition fairer.

And yet Atletico madrid won la liga last season
I bet you didn't see that happening given their finances and Barca and Real's advantages.

Private investment can do the magic, you don't get jealous of rich clubs cos they're rich, attractive or marketable

It's not as bad as the media make it look

raumdeuter: They can negotiate their deal to the extent that most La liga clubs cant pay their players salary

Is that not a fraud on its own? If every league allows teams to negotiate salaries How do you think Hull City would survive?
Man Utd last season made 106m, Hull made 80m Would that be possible if all teams negotiate their deals?



Thats what happens in Spanish football. This is even worse than Nigerian league. Players cant get their wages because Barcelona is canibalising the league.

The La liga that has investment cant even pay their players, Malaga had to auction their players last yr even with all the investment, With all these investment Barcelona still r@p3s every team

Do German clubs not owe their staffs and players? Oh please spare me

So it's Barca's fault that Racing santander couldn't pay their players? You must be a comedian

Spain's financial problem is economical, not just football alone, so your excuse is just not viable.
If you were heading the Spanish football federation and you had teams like Barca and Real madrid, you'll rather share peanuts knowing what they can bring to the table?

raumdeuter: And how many of those who made more TV money are richer than Bayern? At least Bayern isnt making 140m while giving the other teams crumbs like Barcelona does?

Seria A 1 Juve = 94m AC Milan 3rd 77m difference 17m
Bundesliga 1. Bayern 36m 3rd Leverkusen 33m difference 3m
EPL 1 Liverpool 117m 3rd Chelsea 112m Difference 4m

LA LIGA 1. Barcelona 140m 3 Valencia 40m Difference 100m

How do you sleep at night with this brutal rapppe of your league?

No wonder La Liga teams cant even pay players salary because Barcelona is rappingg them sore.

Your typical rap

La liga teams are allowed to negotiate their own deals. Are you angry that we're good at marketing ourselves as we are at playing football?
If the relegating team in the EPL is earning more than the German champion, isn't it such a sorry case? What the hèll kind of a league is that? An elite league for that matter.

And to think that on top of that, Bayern still bullies the rest of the BuLi teams…SMH

raumdeuter: And what does this mean in the scheme of things? Is TV money the only place where teams make money?

Despite this Bayern is still one of the richest clubs in Europe without debt. Madrid this week announced they are 600m in debt.

Or on the field does this money stop Bayern Dortmund from molesting the best English league has to offer?

Here defending your BuLi again
How can little cardiff make more money than great Bayern?

That league needs investment

mcdreeezy: 18 players called up for today's game, Douglas, Pique, Alba and Vermaelen not included.

Squad: Ter Stegen, Bravo, Alves, Montoya, Bartra, Mascherano, Mathieu, Adriano, Busquets, Rakitic, Xavi, Sergi Roberto, Iniesta, Pedro, Munir, Messi, Sandro and Neymar Jnr

I'm just hoping for a good line up and wonderful victory.

Vermaelen's debut is taking time though

dmcdad: Guy, I didn't read the said analysis even. I watched the match. Why would I need some match analysis when I watched a match live (albeit on TV).

Abeg give credit to whom its due. Leave all this hating abeg. If he does things right, praise him. Why always criticise without commending when its time for that? I love criticism, but I also love commendation. And frankly, commendation is what you lack.

My point? I believe it's okay and just to criticise when a player is below par, and I also believe it's likewise okay and just to commend a play when he is doing great. As much as I criticise Piqué, I never fail to acknowledge his work rate if he plays great.

Abeg, no hating. This is becoming absurd to say the least.

Look I'm not hating. Honestly I'm not, it's not as if I get paid for it or something. I judge on general perfor as it's not only 1 match we're gonna play all season. Players like Pique, Alves and Pedro are not the same anymore, everybody knows that so it's not use wasting your breath on them, but they've had their moments, giving us wonderful performances in the past, and honestly that's why they're still around, or can you tell me that Pedro is better than Sanchez?

Some players are in the first team just cos they're from La Masia, not cos they're spectacular.

Don't get me wrong, Bartra is good, just not good enough IMO. I've watched many defenders ply their trade at Barca, so I know we deserve better. We've dwelled on this Bartra issue too long, let him even improve so i'll shut my mouth on him. Else…(a la Bojan, Tello, Cesc)

AjanleKoko: Bartra is okay. Inexperienced, but still okay. After all we didn't concede, so why the fuss?

You should be asking about the front six, who were below par. The only weak link in the Malaga game at the back was Douglas. Showed lots of inexperience.

I'm not judging with the Malaga game alone, but his overall performance since he got into the first team. Inexperience is always the word people use to defend him, and it's good you say he's just okay , not spectacular.

sebod:
I wish Barackohansome could see what what is
written about Batra up there!

dmcdad:
For me, I hope he watched the match, or watch there play at least, so he could see things for himself. Nuff said already.

Oh I saw it, all of it and I'd advise you guys don't read much meaning into a post match analysis against Malaga, especially seeing that we didn't get the required result. To see him improve would be a joy for all barca fans, but not until. Or are you guys waiting till we get trumped upon again before you know he isn't very solid?

nano4him: O boy you know know wetin you dey talk. Man wey marry wife do gree chuk am it is either he has medical problems or he has spiritual problems. all that 21days story is trash. Even if he doesn't find her attractive how many times have we guys woken up after a goodnite out and gushed at the nite package we brought home.

OP try the Viagra and if your husband doesn't respond then try to find out if he has done Nigerian home video with it.

na joke I dey JOKE O OP I DOUBT YOUR STORY SHA OR MAYBE THE WOMAN DON SEE YOUR BUNDLE and WANTS IT



JUST MY VIEW SHA!

Thank god say you say na joke you dey

I no know about you but if person wey I no dey feel put anything for my drink come naked join, I no go do. Worst case, I go find another person follow do am

NB: Viagra na man power, no be jazz.

^^^ lol

horllarh: my name iz nt on jamb website too. Accounting

Have you gone to school to show them the SMS?

cisse7575: Please culeans, wetin be the scoreline? Remaining time to play

Goal less by 58 min.

dmcdad: Barça line-up:
13. Bravo
3. Piqué
4. Rakitic
5. Sergio
7. Pedro
8. Iniesta
10. Messi
11. Neymar
15. Bartra
16. Douglas
18. Jordi Alba

Ehn Pique and Bartra?
Which kind defence be this na?
Our clean sheet record no go spoil so?

Victory is all that matters though