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Danielnino00:
Again, more ignorance...

Since when did it become a rule that a team must have world class players before they can achieve big things? for God's sake, what nonsense is that? what is the proportion of world class players to average players in world football?

Your attempt to elevate Rohr has failed..You have nothing serious to say...

Then why did the coach before him failed to qualify us to Nations cup if his performance is abysmal.

ChrisKels:
Did we have these quality of players prior Rohr's arrival? Wait I know the next lame excuse your gonna give which is "Rohr brought these players to the team" as if he had any other options, or was the one that bred them, or contributed to their respective successes. Rohr is just lucky to have been at the helm when there is a glut of talents yet he can't make good use of them, I wonder what he would have done if he was here when there was a dearth of talents

So your excuse for other coaches is lack of talent when we had Aiyegbeni, Ighalo, Emenike, Obafemi, Mikel, Ambrose etc. So Congo and South Africa had better talent than us in those years. Clap for yourself.

Danielnino00:
I saw this nonsense comment on one of the football pages on Facebook prior to our game against Liberia... I can bet my balls that you are the same guy...


Folks like you have no business watching football.. You are very very ignorant....

Very knowledgeable Individual, mention the world class player in Nigeria team. What we have are bunch of average players with few above average players.

ChrisKels:
Besides Mahrez, can you name any other Algerian player that is a starter for a top team? Do you ever see their coach using that as an excuse the way Rohr does? By the way, does Algeria have more quality than we do yet we are so poor both tactically and otherwise ?

They have more quality than us, all over the field. It is not by forwards
Benrahma

Truidstar:
Na by starters for top teams?

Then they are not a top quality player. Rohr has qualified us for all the tournament since his arrival before his arrival we did not qualify for African Cup of nation for 2 consecutive season yet you guys are shouting as if he is the one ruining Nigeria football.
What are your reason for Rohr to be sack?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]In Basketball, I can attempt a shot when I can't pass. In football, it's difficult.

The courts in BB are also smaller, which makes moving the ball around easier. It's not the same for football.

I don't see how passing the ball back makes a team defensive. It's still part of a strategy in football.

I think football has been more attacking minded lately. We have seen full backs create chances in our generation. Some full backs have decent goal ratios too.

With Pioli's strategy, counter attacks won't even be possible. When a team loses the ball, there would be like 5 players sitting behind to defend. Even full backs would stay put to defend.

I'd like to see him try it out in his next match though. Even though he may lose, I'm interested in how many goals he would get out of this strategy[/color]

This strategy will favour teams that has solid defenders.

ChrisKels:
Ghana has reappointed Milo Rajevac to help turn around their fortunes, though they don't have much quality talents. But we are here swimming with this crap of a coach called Rohr, though we have more quality talents.

Mention the ills of Rohr, Stop all this shout that Nigeria has players, How many of our players are starters for top teams (Bayern, Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Inter Milan, Juventus, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Athletico Madrid, Barca) Only Ndidi is a confirm started for an above average team in the top 5 league.

Illimitable:
How many trophies had Ferguson won in 2006 before losing to Southend?

SAF had won multiple league titles, back to back titles, the treble, plenty of domestic cups and even intercontinental cups.

You want me to cut Ole(zero credits in the bank) some slack. Ferguson, Klopp, Wenger, Pep, etc are credit worthy managers. One could pardon their shocking results because they have won plenty of stuff in the past.

What has Ole won? Why should we continue to have faith in someone that is yet to win something? The aforementioned managers can be excused. They had done it before. There’s a sign that if the stars align well, they could pull it off again.

Where is the precedent that Ole can win any trophy?

Before then Fergie has lost a lot of other games before even winning a title, Yesterday match is not a good call for the sack of the manager and was not a poor performance. The team could still go on and perform well in other competition but with Ole at the wheel, the chance are slim.

The fellow, I quoted was making it seems as if Ole was beaten by a third tier team which has not happen to any other manager in the history of the club.

Ferguson was given time even Klopp was given time at Liverpool to deliver.
Ole as a coach has not done badly and has not been that good.
I will proudly support the sack of Ole for a top manager like Zidane as Ole doesn't inspire confidence in any one to be able to win a tangible trophy.

adisaaowala:
Wait - are we supposed to be jubilating, after being kicked out by westham at old trafford?

It wasnt as if there was some bad officiating, red card or unlucky moments.

Our match day squad was pretty decent enough, so what are you on about?

I find it funny that we have now resorted to "looking for positives", even after an embarrassing exit at home.

We are really at an all time low

You are funny, losing Early in a trophy that fans here generally agree is not an important trophy has become all time low.
Ole has served me with a lot of poor performances but this is not one of them.

Panther7:
Because Ferguson lost in the early round of the Carling in the 17th century so Ole too can lose in the first round right? What kind of F**cked up mentality is that?
If we going by that analogy, Ferguson has won trophies what has ole won?

Hello, I quoted the guy mentioning Ferguson as if Fergie never loses a cup game in early round with rotated squad.
Losing Early in cup game to a fellow premier League club who finished top 6 last season is not a disaster while using a second string team.
What we make this season a terrible season for me is if he fails to win the league or reach 87 points and reach semi final of the champions League.

adisaaowala:
We are not, and wouldnt be the 1st team to rotate players for Carabao cup.

We played at home vs Westham (not Mancity or liverpool ffs) and there was quite a number of decent players in the team squad.

Very poor result

What is a poor result against West Ham, Did you watch the match?

Illimitable:
We aren’t even completed September yet and Ole has lost the only competition that could have allowed him to give plenty of minutes to fringe players.

There’s going to be plenty of dissatisfaction in the squad going forward. Solskjaer is just bad luck. Everything he touches turn to shit.

I remember when Alex Ferguson used to put Rafael and Fabio as wingers and still beat the likes of Arsenal in a cup competition.

The glory days are gone unless we sack this lunatic.

Same Ferguson lose against some team very early in cup round example Southend in 2006. Abeg, cut Ole some slack, this is the first time he is going out from a national cup competition very early.

Mrviktor:
How did dey remove lingard and leave martial

I was wondering

Any hope

Illimitable:
Ole couldn’t find weakness in Young Boys, somehow you expect him to find weakness in Tuchel’s Chelsea.

The same weakness Pep hasn’t been able to find.

Next week will determine, if Pep has not yet find a solution to beaten Tuchel.

Illimitable:
10-man Chelsea will beat Ole’s United.

They are the best team in Europe. 4 clean sheets in 5 games. The stuff of champions. Tuchel is nothing to play with.

Chelsea have now kept more clean sheets (15) than they have conceded goals (14) in the Premier League under Tuchel.

Tuchel has made them the most difficult team to beat. Ole’s best hope is to park the bus and get a boring 0-0 like he did last season.

Anything can happen in the game of football, forget all this talk of unbeatable team, na to find the weakness of the team.

patrickmuf:
In that world cup, their attack was Mbappe, Greizmann and Giroud...Matuidi played from the left but he mostly served a purpose to defend rather than attack...France kind of low key packed the bus and depended on the speed of Mbappe, Giroud's hold up play as well as Pogba's passing.

In the just concluded Euros, they attempted to be more expansive and they paid the price for it...

Defense is more importance, Look at England and Italy that reach the final. England with all its attacking option decide to stick with Kalvin Phillip, Declan Rice and with an hard working Mount in most of their matches.
Even the Madrid team that won champions league 3 times back to back contain 3 hardworking Midfielders.

WarAgainstBegga:
Your argument holds no water.

Even if we jam Chelsea with our full squad, the kin beating wey dem go beat us eh, CR7 go regret joining our club.

Football is not mathematics. Don't be surprise, if we trash Chelshit.

ChristineC:
well he has 7 assists. he'd get some leverage as is.
however, with his current contract situation I'm surprised he's played so many minutes already.

It is a tough decision for the coach, It is not easy for a coach to bench an inform star player.

Bombblacks:
They are defensive and result to counterattacks.

Which has be working really well, Currently they are the top favourites for the league.

Chelsea using Eight defensive Players yet still attacking, abeg Tuchel na better coach.

slimghost:
What is Fred’s relevance in this game please

Can’t win possession, can’t make passes.

The pass to Bruno for the goal was by who?

Abeg, who gave Bruno, d pass before the goal. If it was Pogba we no go hear word for this forum.

Man Utd 9 Southampton 0
Ole Out: The red card was the reason for the 9:0 win
Ole In: It was Ole work, Red card doesn't influence game.
Young Boys 2 Man Utd 1
Ole Out: Red card is not the cause of the defeat, it was Ole Ineptitude
Ole in: The red card was the cause of the loss as Man Utd was dominating before the Red Card

slimghost:
They have no clue. Success anywhere in life requires some level of intelligence and I barely see that in Ole.
From his pressers to his team setup and game management.
Innocent is as dumb as a rock and the least intelligent United manager post Fergie.
None of the managers had this array of players at their disposal but Innocent is playing monkey post football with Ronaldo, Bruno, Sancho, Rashford and co.

Barcelona that won the chamions league in 2009 was defeated by Rubin Kazan at home, abeg make we rest. Upset are normal in football. I can bring a lot of top manager that have lost to smaller team.
NB: The loss is on Ole, bad sub which wàs due to what he anticipated. I will be glad, if Ole can be sack and we hire Zidane. My opinion is not based on this match but based on his antecedents.

Bombblacks:
So out of curiosity what substitution would you have made in that situation or which personal would you have brought in and who would you have removed? Could you elaborate on how you would have lined up yesterday after that red.

I will have remove Bruno and bring in Varane and lindelof will play right back.

Football is not pure Mathematics. This is not the first time an underdog will be beaten a top team but the manner it was done is appaling. Why setup the team so defensive just because of a goal down. Major upset like this is not new, it doesn't mean the team can't go on to reach the later stage of champions league.
Some major upset in group stage that later went on to Perform strong in the competition.
Bate Borisov 3 Bayern Munich 1 (Oct 2 2012)
Barcelona 1Rubin Kazan 2 (20 Oct 2010)
NB: Ole is solely to be blame for this our loss as he made the wrong substitution thinking he was making the best substitution he could have made.

Illimitable:
He has improved his positioning. I remember he used to abandon the back post when defending a cross. I have not seen him do that this season.

Against teams where United are parking the bus or playing a low block, you won’t find any RB better than AWB in England. That’s his expertise.

We play against low block team, most of the time. It is against a few team, we play a low block.

KingAlabi:
Yeah, but even when we play low blocks before, a man is usually always on Bruno, but yesterday match them no know who to man mark

Who do you want to man mark. Is it Ronaldo, Sancho, Greenwood or Pogba.

Itsrm:
If six changes to the Side that faced Liverpool and a 3-nil victory does not tell you the story of our squad depth then you can keep laughing like I'm basket mouth.

We will see who laughs last at the end of the season

With the rubbish you play yesterday. Thank your stars that Aston Villa were unfortunate not to convert their chance.

Talking of squad depth, who replaces Lukaku in your team. Is it those your shakushaku players.

Illimitable:
Against the big teams, AWB is excellent.

He’s probably the best 1-v-1 defender in Europe. I saw this dude put Sterling in his back pocket. Sterling couldn’t get a sniff around him and that Sterling had been destroying defenders until he faced AWB.

Being good on 1 V 1 defending is different from being a good defender though it is a very important aspect of defending other aspect such as concentration, positioning are as well important why defending.

Illimitable:
Against teams that are going to pack the middle because of the Ronaldo factor, AWB should be on the bench.

I don't see anything special in AWB, he lost the ball, more than twice in dangerous position yesterday.