talkingtruth:
Only Men

Nor did We send before thee
(as messengers) any but MEN,
whom we did inspire,- (MEN)
LIVING IN HUMAN HABITATIONS. Do
they not travel through the
earth, and see what was the
end of those before them? But
the home of the hereafter is
best, for those who do right.
Will ye not then understand?
[Qur'an 12:109]

.....but MEN who lived among humans. Not angels.


Also angels

Allah chooses messengers from
ANGELS and from MEN for Allah
is He Who hears and sees (all
things).
[Qur'an 22:75]

The above quotes are from the 'Glorious Quran' without any discrepancies and reserved in heaven. How true?

The truth is: God had been sending both MEN and ANGELS to mankind before Muhammad was born.

Why is allahh lying on many pages of the quran?

Please try and use simple logic, the only problem i have is you are far from using it
The two verses you quote are similar and very well explained but you decided to make it ambiguous for your own personal gain. May Allah have mercy on you
The first is clearly saying almighty Allah has sent messengers to us men from men like us.meaning humans to humans example moses, Abraham, jesus and all other prophets ( may peace be on them all) to thier own people.
Theey all have a general message which is to believe in one God, abstain from evil and warn of terrible punishment that await people who don't listen and also tell them the rewards for those that work in righteousness.
The second verse you quote about Angel and men as messengers is simply talking about the fact that Angels have been send specially to some people to deliver messages. So apart from delivering messages to Allah chosen prophets. they have also given specific messages to people such as sarah wife of Abraham (as),Mary mother of jesus. These are specific messages from angels to certain righteous humans. But the general message warning us about the wrath and promises of God is usually from prophets who are human like us to human race. This is just basic understanding but Allah knows best


I know you might still not get it because your main goal is to find fault where there is none. So this is for the people who might get confused from what you have written trying to misinterprete the verses.

Why are there too many obsessed people. Trying hard to make sense when they are not making sense. When proven wrong they start their insults. nothing you can do to turn us away InshaALLah .whatever you do saying blasphemous things will never benefit you in this world or hereafter by that time it will be too late. May Allah have mercy on you.

The brother doesn't need your help.
Your obsession with Islam and Muslims is beginning to turn to something else.
Please save yourself first because you are completely lost. I hope you find the truth before it's too late.
Stop the obsession. I keep saying involve your self with something that would really benefit you and your christian folks.
We believe in God same God jesus (ra) believed, same with all other prophets.we are on the right path
Alhamdillilah and InshaALLah nothing will make us worship what you worship. salam

babyosisi:


Only a girl reared in a polygamous setting will say these things
A girl who grew up in a monogamous home will say " I will rather be single than be one of many wives,the man's level of religiosity not withstanding"

What are you saying. I was not brought up in a polygamous home. But my religion allows it in as much it's done within the rules and he can be just. If he fear he cannot be just then should only marry one to avoid falling into error.

It's better to have a polygamous home than adulterous husband. This is a grevious sin in which most men are involved in today.
Your beliefs might not make you see sense in polygamy but what you should not do is discourage or condemn people in it. Live your life and let her live hers.

thesource:
Thanks a whole lot my dear brothers and sisters in Islam, i've been so encouraged by your words, i'll amend my ways and seek forgiveness from Allah and i shall wait for His blessings on me. May Allah bless you all.

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I'm happy you came out open to let us know your situation. It's all deceit and this is how they have been able to convert muslims who till today are still in search of that miracle.

This life is a test and Allah test people He loves. Remember even Jesus(AS) faced similar situation and every other prophet was tested.
hold fast to islam,many verse of the Qur’an states with every difficulty comes ease. Allah will not burden a soul with more than it can bear. Be steadfast and ask Allah in dua and supplicate everytime. You can join our whatsapp muslim group, send wizeboy your number if interested . May Allah ease your affairs.
The next time she ask you, say NO that you don't need her or her pastor, that you put your complete trust in Allah.

I'm happy for the filipino lady. Her case was very touching

crackhaus:
Funny responses so far...

I have to ask though, why are you ladies going on the offensive with the argument that dressing half-naked was once an African thing?
Are we then to return to the good ol' bare-brea.sted-'partial disclosure' days?

Also, there's this thing about hypocrisy - more often than not, we are oblivious of the fact that while condemning hypocrisy, we open up ourselves to it as well.
Is there a woman here who would allow her daughter wear an outfit that exposes or highlights some sexxual part of her body on the excuse that it's a choice and afterall a thing of our pre-colonial past?

Hypocrisy anyone?

I'm just saying though, what's wrong is wrong and what's right is right - all subjective to the particular time/era in question. That being under-dressed was normal occurrence in a time when sexxual crimes were uncommon should not make it okay in a time when it is considered perversive.

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Well said, the world has really changed since then and this is why religion was introduced to morally shape us and our ways. Let say girls are still being killed like they use to in those days. Most of you ladies won't be here supporting this sort of things. What is wrong is wrong,and too many perversion in the world today than in those days.

richyblink1:


Are you indirectly suggesting that she revert back to Islam with her hubby?

Religion should be a thing of choice and self fulfilment. No one should choose or force another into their personal believe

@op, stick to what brings peace in your home, the happiness if your home should be your priority.

Hmmm I'm just saying this because most Muslims who initially convert do this because they don't have enough knowledge and understanding of Islam.
But i agree with you she should choose whatever works for her and her family

sherina10:
Hello
I'm 23 years old, a graduate and currently serving.

I met a guy sometimes in 2012 and we got into into a relationship along the line he told me he was married but had issue with his wife and they are separated but he didn't tell me what d issue was.

I couldn't care less then because I had issue with my elders sister's husband whom I was staying with and he sent me packing. They were the one sponsoring my education. I was broke, confused and frustrated with no money. I called my in law to apologize he wouldn't pick up, send sms in fact I did everything I could to make him forgive me but it seems its heart was made up then, I was left with no choice but to move on then I just finished the semester for 300 level going to 400 level with no savings in my account and my heart was full of anger and hatred.

Above is the reason why I couldn't care less, then i was totally broke with no love from anyone expect this guy, in fact to me he was God sent then because really he saved me from a lot of sufferings.

He helped me move on with no stress, again I was comfortable and I don't need my sister's money for anything but he told me that he wanted to get married to me which I accepted because I cant afford to loose him.

Along the line he reconciled with his wife and he told me that he had reconciled with his wife and he told her about me and his intention to marry me and she accepted.
Note: they are muslim n i'm a Christian
When he told me about this I wasn't comfortable with it because I wasn't interested in polygamy in fact at the beginning I lost interest in everything when he told me he was married but I couldn't let go because of the comfort. He is not very rich but he is comfortable.

We kept on seeing each other, he is very okay in person, very religious, very caring, he had it all and I love him very much.
All he wanted was marriage, I got to know his wife who happen to be very nice too and sometimes I wonder why a woman will become that nice to her husband's
Everything was going fine and I got deep into promise of I will marry him too to the point of no return again I was left with no choice than to get married to him.

FAST FORWARD..........
We are currently married(polygamy)
Separate apartment (the two houses are close by) no transport needed.
24hours with each wife
No fighting
Provide's everything equally
JEALOUS? Deal with it whatever way you can but you have no right to confront your mate over anything because she isn't married to you.

The marriage is going on fine if you can deal with the above.

My GRIEVIANCE
1. I just find out that he married me (if not me then another) for child bearing
His wife had health issues and he wants a particular number of children.
How did I know this? He told me himself. When I stressed on it he told me that if he married me for child rearing how come we are still together because i lost a pregnancy
not long after we got married.

2. He doesn't keep any of his personal belongings in the apartment the both of us is sharing. But he brings some office document and somethings when he needs them and take it back when he is done

3. He doesn't receive visitors in our apartment. Reasons: I don't cover my head and his friends isn't comfortable looking at me because it's as if i'm naked to them.

4. Sometimes I feel ashamed of being a second wife, I cant tell my friends, sometimes when we discuss marital issue they always complain about money but I don't while they are I like I wish i'm comfortable like u, In my mind I will be like I wish I can get a husband to myself like u . Pathetic? Yes.

All in all the marriage has not been bad but my senses just can't accept it that i'm a 2nd fiddle, maybe because of the way I was raised or because it is a taboo to my Christian faith.

I want a divorce because he has bridged his marriage contract, he told me initially that wife is wife in islam, there is no difference between 1st, 2nd to infinto wives but I cant cope with the above because I feel he lied to me.
I can't be in a marriage because of children.

CRITICISM is allowed but please advise while you do so or after you have done that.

It is worthy to NOTE that we never committed fornication/adultery before the marriage because he said its against its religion.
If you want any kpekus (whether extra, supplementary or whatever) then get married first, lol.

Hmmm I understand where you are coming from because he lied initially. But I would choose to be a second wife with a good,loving,caring,religious husband like yours than an only wife with irresponsible husband.
You admitted everything is going on perfectly the reservations you are have are merely the devil reminding you how things would be if you are an only wife which is not perfect either. Even your friend's wish they were you.

Please try and be happy and not be ashamed. Polygamy has been around for many years and would still continue to be.you should be happy not be worried about what people will say.

He is keeping friends away because they are not meant to see you in that state because even the 1st wife will cover up to receive visitors.

Please just pray for your family and continue to live in peace and i pray God lead you to the right path as well.

Bplati:


Yes I've studied both and I prefer to be a christian. Fanatics tend to be hell bent on imposing their choices on people. I really wish they can be liberal

You definitely have not study both to the best of your ability. I think you are either inclined to one more than the other or you just picked the easiest religion to practice. Haven said this only God lead the people HE wants to lead which are people that really want to be led and have opened thier heart to Him.

Bplati:


Hmmm, sometimes I wonder what's attached to this religion such that I was seriously begged to convince him and promised me that I'll get anything I want in this world. This issue no be small matter o. I'm just scared not to offend anybody else I'll look them in the face, then one will be tagged as a bad wife... One can imagine the extent they can go spiritually. I don't want any attack or whatsoever. Scared they can manipulate my hubby into marrying a Muslim of their choice.

Every parents would be worried if they know their son/daughter is converting from thier own religion. They might be worried about the consequences, I guess this is why the persuasion and pressure . My thought is you and
your husband don't have much knowledge about Islam and you became christians but instead of them forcing you and putting so much pressure on you. It is best they just pray about it and admonish both of you. There's no compulsion in religion and they should not be forcing two adults.
Also pray about it instead of having a closed mind about Islam since you are now a christian. May God lead you to the straight path

IHate9ja1:

Sir,if the world go astray,we dont need to influence our coming generations on such part...i'm afraid to see intense kissing cartoon on tv shows and from there the parents dey watch porn and b4 you know it you see your neighbor son sleeping on your daughter .....doing what Practicing what she saw/ get raped by an older fellow and am sorry to tell you that most rape cases are initiated by this kids and b4 u knw it e don happen...they wld even get home and keep quite unless the parent is very observant that such kid as been raped.
Am afraid to see comments of Nairalanders...supporting such,can they tell me what msg they are trying to pass across?
So many dirt ridden minds typing lustful comment from the pit of hell

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This is the best response so far, what is this world turning into self. This is immoral and religiously wrong,either she's watching in private or in the sitting room. What rubbish move is she practicing or learning again after 4 kids. The mother is just feeding her perverted mind. It's evil and no two words for it. And people are here condoning evil act.I am not a saint but there are things we should not be doing.End time is definitely near, this is why things that are wrong are seen as normal.
May God save us but it's left to us as individual as well to stop any form of immorality.

Blurry:
....one would have expected Dangote will push his kids to Oxford, Cainbridge, Imperial College or some other A-rated schools in the Uk.

There is so much to learn from this billionaire's... they appear so ordinary, no special sophisication but exude some confidence gotten from sheer discipline and focus.

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. Firstly it's Cambridge not Cainbridge. Because she's Dangote daughter doesn't mean she can enter any university in the UK.Cambridge and most other universities take people based on their grades,so the person has to be exceptionally brilliant not exceptionally rich. Good on her and congratulations to her as well.