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Annunaki:
Why is islam like this It is such a sick pathetic religion

Sahih International
O you who have believed, prescribed for you is legal retribution for those murdered - the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But whoever overlooks from his brother anything, then there should be a suitable follow-up and payment to him with good conduct. This is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy. But whoever transgresses after that will have a painful punishment.e. It obvious you don't

I guess you don't understand the meaning of the verse. Because you actually acted shocked that islam encourages people to be punished for killing another.
have you heard of someone who killed anothers and let off by the law. the sentences in most countries either they are sentenced to life imprisonment or sentenced to death.

Islam then goes further by saying the family of the murdered can decide to pardon the guilty person,if they do,he should make some payment and they admonish the person and make follow up to make sure this person changes for thier evil ways.
Is islam not also encouraging people to pardon as well. This is exactly what this man did followed the second principle inorder to spare his sons killer's life. How many can do this?
The first Principle about retaliation is just normal. Everyone wants to get justice for thier loved ones and to also prevent it from happening. Doesn't mean islam is evil. Islam is a total way of life and even the laws of most countries support this sentences which means it's fair

Miscellaneous:
dey their dey deceive ursef……… oloshiii

You don't need to look far to see why the declaration was made.For such comment above , when the sister just answered a question she's been insulted. There would have been many more like this. You only need to visit religion thread to see the level of insults against islam and yet due to hypocrisy some people still don't understand why the declaration is made compulsory. It such a shame

JustPeace01:
Non-muslims

Well, I've done my part. May Allah reward us on our good deeds and forgive us of our transgressions. #Ameen

Ameen jazakallahu kheir.

Demmzy15:
Salam Aleikum sister/brother, I'll advice don't engage that lady in argument. It's futile, the worst part is she's dumb and a coward. Just leave her to her ignorance!

Parisbookaddict can you go back now @ https://www.nairaland.com/2486885/god-never/1#36412756

Walaikum salam, thanks the thing is i don't know if it looked like argument wasn't my intention but this people always find a way to drag you in things you trying to avoid. I was only trying to refute was she said. We should stop engaging them sincerely it's a waste of our time and intellect. May Allah forgive us and have mercy on us if we have erred in any way. I will just shake my head instead of commenting.

truthman2012:
My sister. you are more knowledgeable in islam than the muslimah.u Great!

Dumb and Dumber

parisbookaddict:
If u are sincere and honest ,then quote the entire verse. I have quoted what I sAw and if ur explanation from ur own translation explAins it better than what I have then I will not quote it again. My intention is to quote the verses and interpretation as accurately as possible. So quote the enter verse from ur own translation.



Like I said earlier, quote it..I am not a bigot. .so Bring proof to defend ur prophet. Apparently the other verses I quoted were correct but this one u claim is misquoted or. Misinterpreted. Then bring proof.



I am here to present to you what ur imam, clerics, sheiks and alfas won't tell u about mohammed.
Do you know u are NOT allowed to Question ur quran or prophet. He even says it can make u lose your faith. Do u want the verse??
What kind of religion forbids scrutiny..?


Surah 5:101-102: “O ye who believe! Ask not
questions about things which if made plain to
you, may cause you trouble …Some people
before you did ask such questions, and on that
account lost their faith.” (Yusuf Ali)

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 3, Number 92:
Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet was asked about
things which he did not like, but when the
questioners insisted, the Prophet got angry


No, no. I am simply not brAinwashed from childhood to think a man of mohammed's antecedence could be a prophet.



Its only God, YHWH, the God of abraham, issac and jacob that can guide. And I pray he leads you out of islam like he has done for countless others.

Quote what exactly. Is this not what have said you are too dumb to comprehend. The Qur'an was revealed over a period of 23 years and the revelations was as a result of what was happening then.
Your interpretation is the flawed one. You are no better than the so called Isis and Bokoharam who quote the verses out of context.
There's a reason for every single verse and it's meaning is for people of understanding and guidance for those who don't just sit and quote it out of context. For everyone that renounce islam,Allah replaces them with people who are far better.it's best to differentiate the shaft from the grains. It's not everyone that can comprehend the Qur'an. Alot of people that renounce islam are ones who don't even know the meaning of what they are reading. It doesn't mean islam is not the fastest growing religion. I don't expect you to accept the hard truth because haters always hate

Scholars study the Qur'an and hadith for 7 to 8 years. And you think you ignorant interpretation is what sane people will listen to. I don't think so. I'm done with you on this topic.continue with your obsession and desperation

parisbookaddict:
Of course u wouldn't dare answer them because u will show that ur prophet was a criminal.

who are u praying for and to?? ur god can't even recognised people without arabic names plus don't forget that moHARMmaD discourages prayers for non muslims

"it is NOT fitting for the prophet and those who believe that they should pray for forgiveness for pagans, even though they be kin(family)...", sura 9 ayah 113.


Tabari IX:69
"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions
from us.
As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them
forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter
to us."


Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger
of Allah. And those with him are hard
(ruthless) against the disbelievers and
merciful among themselves"

I always say no need replying the deaf ( won't listen and blind( blinded to the truth) because you are not here to get a sincere answer. You are here to claim i should leave islam which is NEVER going to happen InshaAllah .
No matter the evidence, you are too dumb to comprehend. It's only Allah that can guide, so I won't waste my precious time. For every second you type insults to the beloved prophet ( pbuh) billions of Muslims and many more are reverting to send peace to him. The only effect you hatred is having is bringing more people to islam.

parisbookaddict:
Of course u wouldn't dare answer them because u will show that ur prophet was a criminal.

who are u praying for and to?? ur god can't even recognised people without arabic names plus don't forget that moHARMmaD discourages prayers for non muslims

"it is NOT fitting for the prophet and those who believe that they should pray for forgiveness for pagans, even though they be kin(family)...", sura 9 ayah 113.


Tabari IX:69
"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions
from us.
As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them
forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter
to us."


Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger
of Allah. And those with him are hard
(ruthless) against the disbelievers and
merciful among themselves"

There we go again, quoting out of context. The verse was revealed when the prophet's ( pbuh) uncle died as an unbeliever despite the prophet ( pbuh) trying all is best to make him pronounce the shahada on his sick bed.
He was then praying for him after his death and thus the verse you quoted was revealed.

This is because people like you have the opportunity to be a muslim before dieing. Once you are gone,the matter is now with Allah to decide and no need for praying for a dead person who didn't feel the need to search and accept the truth while alive.
We can pray for unbelievers when alive not when they are dead. Allah(SWT) is the best Reckoner and best Judge

parisbookaddict:
Ewwww... Ur mind is filthy.

How could u say such a thing.

anyway, mr/miss Muslim all the information is gotten from your quran and sahih hadiths.

Apparently u don't know much about your prophet..

Please Answer these questions and attempt dewah if u are knowledge enough.

Did Mohammed sleep with a child, 9 year old
Aisha?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he kill people eg meccans, pagans, Jews etc?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did Mohammed command his followers to fight people based on their beliefs?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he sleep with and have sex slaves?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he command his followers to sleep with captives their right hand possess?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did Mohammed marry more wives than Islamic Allah permits Muslims?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did the quran claim that no miracle will be performed by mohammed?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did mohammed contradict himself or abrogate quran passages because they where contradictory to earlier revelations?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he permit the murder of his critics?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he rape women during after war, which he
called war booty?{I.e Slave-girls as sexual property}YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he permit Muslims to beat their wives? {Even if but lightly}YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he ask people to drink camel piss and milk for good health?YES, HEALTHY/NO, HE DIDN'T/I DON'T KNOW

Did Mohammed say apostates should be killed?YES & I CONCUR / YES, BUT I DON'T CONCUR / NO, HE COULDN'T HAVE!

When I'm not foolish like you. Find someone who has time to go back and forth with you. I'm only hear to SMH at your ignorance.will keep praying for you

[quote author=parisbookaddict post=36403042]Rilwayne001 mohammed will be proud of your insults to non muslims. His unholy book has taught u well

Both of them are very wrong to call any human a rodent but only your islamic allah and mohammed approves of such language. The quran is the only religious text I know of that says a god turned humans to animals as punishment. Only the qUran calls humans cattle, apes, monkeys for ignoring mohammeds call to worship his moon god.



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You should be giving an award for the best liar and an hypocrite. You never correct your christian fellow. It just shows why christians like you should not be trusted. the art of deception and hypocrisy runs in your vein

parisbookaddict:
Its not hate,
its called "not being brianwashed to think a man who raped slaves and war captives and a little 9 year old girl is a prophet."


By the way, the name u keep failing to spell is walid sheobat, and he is more into comparing bible prophecies about the evils of islam/mohammed than quoting islamic texts. So please show me where I have ever quoted him.


You claimed u see nothing wrong with those evil islamic verses, that's ur cup of tea.. I have exposed it and people are learning about islam while u can remain brainwashed and in denial.

U asked for verses showing mohammed having sex with slaves or approving such behavoiur and I brought it.
Au revoir, I have nothing else to say to u

I guess this is ifeann.wonder why you have to disguise and use another moniker .
Are you obsess or do you fantasize about being raped when you were a child because I don't know where you get this idea from. May God Almighty deliver you. If not the rubbish and baseless points you raise on most of the thread is getting boring. OUR Prophet(pbuh)reputation is intact and if you use the remaining second of your life to type this same blasphemous comments it can never change that.

dolphinheart:
Ok,I agree, but ill keep on asking untill someone who can answer comes to read the thread. Hope that is cool with you .

You are funny let's see the question

dolphinheart:
Really?!! Like I told someone who made a similar remark, I wonder how you got to know that I'm not going to be satisfied.
These questions I asked is not only for me, there are others, including muslims who would like to know the answers to these questions.

I do not like to argue, I'm just on these thread to learn. For example , there was a thread I learnt about how muslims view mphameds "medical cure" statements. Expecially the one of the "fly wings" and "camel piss". I did not argue with them, just wanted to know there view.
So pls ill appreciate if someone can answer my questions.

It's not everything they have answers to. They are not scholars who spend years studying the quran and hadiths. So if they can't answer pls understand why

We have been told about people like you. Not really surprised you won't be the first or last.

In some of the verses of surah Anam it says the following.

And never an Ayah (sign) comes to them from the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of their Lord, but that they have been turning away from it.

Indeed, they rejected the truth (the Quran and Muhammad SAW) when it came to them, but there will come to them the news of that (the torment) which they used to mock at.

Have they not seen how many a generation before them We have destroyed whom We had established on the earth such as We have not established you? And We poured out on them rain from the sky in abundance, and made the rivers flow under them. Yet We destroyed them for their sins, and created after them other generations.

And even if We had sent down unto you (O Muhammad SAW) a Message written on paper so that they could touch it with their hands, the disbelievers would have said this is nothing but obvious magic

And indeed (many) Messengers were mocked before you, but their scoffers were surrounded by the very thing that they used to mock at.

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Travel in the land and see what was the end of those who rejected truth."

dolphinheart:
Its interesting to see that no muslim wants/can/is willing to answer my questions.!!!.

Because if they give you all the proof and answers in this world you never going to be satisfied. All you want is find someone who has time for arguments, you don't want answers you only to argue. We have got no time for such. The brothers have answered in the best way.

Very insightful. Jazakallahu kheir

englishmart:
picture of you in hijab or end this epistle

yaolad:
sorry,you need to ask for forgiveness because what u just said here is that,u are against the word of Almighty ALLAH because it has been revealed in the QURAN that it is compulsory for any woman to be in veil (sunnah muhakadah)and no one must against it because if u do so,you are against verse in the holy QURAN and anyone that against any verses in the QURAN has against the QURAN generally.....If anyone call him/herself a muslim and against the word of Almighty ALLAH sent down to us and the person is refer to as (MUNAFIQ) and anyone that's MUNAFIQ to religion of Almighty ALLAH will be put in the down blow of hell fire in the day of resurrection.....May Almighty ALLAH not let us be part of them.....(AMEN)

Bring your evidence please. According to most scholars it's not compulsory. Some support it and some don't. It doesn't mean it's wrong to wear or not wear it

ByfireByfire:
1. Don't pretend you don't know or support the fact that its compulsory in your religion.

2. There are many ways of dressing decent and all covered up without necessarily being a hijab or burqa.

3. You can't call it normal and proper when you are wearing the same type of apparel January to December all in the name of modesty when there can be modesty with "variety" .

4. You can't call it proper and normal when you stuff yourself head to toe with robes even at the hottest seasons and temperatures. Yes I've seen some of your misguided adherents Sweating profusely and even emitting foul odor(stating fact & no abuse intended) when you seat next to them in buses during very hot weather. Temperatures also determine apparel.

5. Women are always the victims aren't they. If hijab or burqa or niqab is the right way according to your religion why are men exempted? Or men alone are right to be judged according to physical appearance. Same way an innocent woman is stoned for adultery leaving the man that most probably coerced her into the act she never even asked for.

6. If hijab or burqa is good for you, are you speaking the mind of a billion others that feel oppressed wearing it but have no choice? You may even be alone in this your proclaimed liberty.

Yea it's compulsory for women to dress as stated in the Qur'an. Hijab is different from face covering which is not compulsory.

For a Muslimah we have to follow what is written in the Qur'an and sunnah. We were created to worship and obey Allah all other things are secondary. It doesn't matter the season or weather, there are many materials of clothing,we don't have to wear something that will make us warm or sweat. The clothing must not be see through, shows the shape be too flashy but can be of different colours and so on. So far it meets all these requirements we are good to go.

Women have been given features that attract them to the opposite sex and men are moved by what they see, so no we are not a victim we are not to be viewed as sex object. This is to protect us and for our own good and to protect immorality
Men also have the parts of their body that must be covered

Billions others what are you talking about. You just trying hard to discredit people wearing the hijab hence Reason for the post. Why do you assume billions of people are wearing it out of no choice. I'm sure it's the opposite

An2elect2:
Well, whether you like it or not, the way non-muslim women dress is what the society calls normal, hence the reason for your post. Innit? to correct the notion.

I didn't use the word 'normal' to classify muslim dress sense but the way society will. My bad, i was not clear.

bashbabe, maybe you are speaking for only yourself because there are some Muslim women who don't think they are 'liberated' with those clothes on them. Maybe, if they had their way, they would have a different wardrobe.

And you failed to state in your post that there are decent and non decent non muslim ways of dressing. You made it look like we all dress to kill.

I also understand where you coming from. Society view it as normal. Even our parents/ grand parents didn't dress the way we dress these days. Why do we let society dictate what is Normal? I think we all like to follow trend, stay in vogue and all that

The reason why I posted this is just to let people not see an hijabites on the street and feel sorry or see us as backward or uncivilised. It's not all of us that are forced to wear it.

For people that were forced or would like to take it off,this is mainly due to lack of knowledge. I once started and took it off because as at then I was just following some muslim sisters doing it and didn't really have the knowledge.

People should be convinced and happy they are doing it for Allah. Muslim women should be encouraged, admonished and it should be done in a nice way and it requires patience as well. If not they might feel like they are being forced and likely to take it off.

I don't have the right to condemn anyone's dressing and so people shouldn't condemn mine too . It's a personal choice

An2elect2:
How a Muslim believes in Jesus more than a christian, is mind boggling. oh oh we shouldn't derail...


So i choose not to cover me completely and dress like a normal woman makes me enslaved? wow i see.

Who says the way you dress is normal. Go down through history and see if people dressed like this in 1808. Who said covering hair isn't normal?

It's people that are blinded by religious bigot that would believe all this crap.
So who can't pretend to be a muslim, who can't claim and lie to be a muslim just to spread lies. The fact that people believe this just shows how gullible and shallow they are.
If nairaland christians can click on the testimony of faith just to write rubbish on Islamic section. How difficult can it be for someone just to sit behind thier computer to type lies.
It only shows one thing, christians are so desperate like why focus so much on discrediting some other people's religion. It obviously shows the sort of people that will go out of thier way to write trash. Liars and enemy's of Islam. They obviously feel threatened. Only fools will believe a fool. Wise people won't believe this.

delishpot:
True. Its not only about the hijab sha. Even christian women who tie their head with scarf are also looked upon the same way. ie deeper life women and others like them. But yes, not every veiled or covered woman is oppressed. Some chose to do so out of conviction.
Every wonan has the right to cover if she wants to.

Exactly the same way people are allowed to go naked, showing everything. Having tatoos and lots more
Why when someone dresses according to a religion they are mocked or said to be oppressed. Double standard i guess.

onetrack:
Just a question; what do you think about the niqab or burka (covering the face)?

It's not really about how i feel. It's not wrong to wear the niqab or burka , it is also not compulsory and people shouldn't be forced to unless they are convinced about wearing it

Lateralmaths:
clothes don't liberate, knowing and accepting the love of God through Jesus Christ gives true liberation.

Typical , I believe in Jesus more than you do. Let's not derail, being a muslim and following the Qur'an and sunnah as Allah has commanded
gives me true liberation.

delishpot:
Happy you chose to dress that way and not by force. Many women in other parts if the wo4ld are forced into wearing certain clothes and even colors. While you are celebrating your freedom of choice without any consequence if you decide to not use the veil, please remember those women who cant say their covering was a choice not forced or enforeced by any relative, sharia police or society upon them.

You are right not everyone wears it out of choice ,how about people who are denied the right to also wear it? This is just to break the myth that every single muslim wearing hijab is an oppressed female.

I probably do not fit into the preconceived notion of a “rebel”. I have no visible tattoos and minimal piercing. I do not possess a leather jacket. In fact, when most people look at me, their first thought usually is something along the lines of “oppressed female.” The brave individuals who have mustered the courage to ask me about the way I dress usually have questions like: “Do your parents make you wear that?” or “Don’t you find that really unfair?”

A while back, a couple of girls in Montreal were kicked out of school for dressing like I do. It seems strange that a little piece of cloth would make for such controversy. Perhaps the fear is that I am harboring an Uzi underneath it! Of course, the issue at hand is more than a mere piece of cloth. I am a Muslim woman who, like millions of other Muslim women across the globe, chooses to wear the hijab. And the concept of the hijab, contrary to popular opinion, is actually one of the most fundamental aspects of female empowerment.

When I cover myself, I make it virtually impossible for people to judge me according to the way I look. I cannot be categorized because of my attractiveness or lack thereof.

Compare this to life in today’s society: We are constantly sizing one another up on the basis of our clothing, jewelry, hair and makeup. What kind of depth can there be in a world like this? Yes, I have a body, a physical manifestation upon this Earth. But it is the vessel of an intelligent mind and a strong spirit. It is not for the beholder to leer at or to use in advertisements to sell everything from beer to cars!

Because of the superficiality of the world in which we live, external appearances are so stressed that the value of the individual counts for almost nothing. It is a myth that women in today’s society are liberated! What kind of freedom can there be when a woman can not walk down the street without every aspect of her physical self being “checked out”?

When I wear the hijab I feel safe from all of this. I can rest assured that no one is looking at me and making assumptions about my character from the length of my skirt. There is a barrier between me and those who would exploit me. I am first and foremost a human being, equal to any man, and not vulnerable because of my sexuality.

One of the saddest truths of our time is the question of the beauty myth and female self-image. Reading popular teenage magazines, you can instantly find out what kind of body image is “in” or “out.” and if you have the “wrong” body type, well, then, you’re just going to have to change it, aren’t you? After all, there is no way that you can be overweight and still be beautiful.

Look at any advertisement. Is a woman being used to sell the product? How old is she? How attractive is she? What is she wearing? More often than not, that woman will be no older than her early 20s, taller, slimmer and more attractive than average, dressed in skimpy clothing. Why do we allow ourselves to be manipulated like this?

Whether the 90s woman wishes to believe it or not, she is being forced into a mold. She is being coerced into selling herself, into compromising herself. This is why we have 13-year-old girls sticking their fingers down their throats and overweight adolescents hanging themselves.

When people ask me if I feel oppressed, I can honestly say no. I made this decision out of my own free will. I like the fact that I am taking control of the way other people perceive me. I enjoy the fact that I don’t give anyone anything to look at and that I have released myself from the bondage of the swinging pendulum of the fashion industry and other institutions that exploit females.

My body is my own business. Nobody can tell me how I should look or whether or not I am beautiful. I know that there is more to me than that. I am also able to say “no” comfortably when people ask me if I feel as though my sexuality is being repressed. I have taken control of my sexuality. I am thankful I will never have to suffer the fate of trying to lose/gain weight or trying to find the exact lipstick shade that will go with my skin color. I have made choices about what my priorities are and these are not among them.

So next time you see me, don’t look at me sympathetically. I am not under duress or a male-worshipping female captive from those barbarous Arabic deserts! I’ve been liberated.
By Sultana Yusufali

parisbookaddict:
Continue living in denial. . Continue claiming "out of context" and misinterpretion. .

This is because u muslims are programmed from a very young age to believe that a paedophile, sex addict, slave owner and rapist called mohammed is a prophet...

look around u and see the evil islam promotes in this world..all the death and destruction. ..

christ' s preached love, forgiveness, grace, purity, righteousness while mohammed came with beheadings, sex slavery, paedophilia, revenge, jihad, and covering faces etc holding u in bondage..
For how long will u choose to remain blind to the truth.

As a muslim I'm not suppose to argue so i don't run into sin. I can see what you are trying to do.
That's why silence is the best answer for a foolish person. I won't go that low
Peace

parisbookaddict:
How can u say the clearly posted quran verses are lies.. u muslims are so deluded

kill unbelievers wherever they find them(Q. 2:191 ),- murder them and treat them harshly(Q. 9:123 ),- fight them, (Q. 8:65 ), until no otherreligion than Islam is left (Q. 2:193 )- humiliate them and impose on them apenalty tax if they are Christians or Jews,(Q. 9:29 )- slay them if they are Pagans (Q. 9:5 ),crucify, or cut off their hands and feet,- expel them from the land in disgrace.And as if this were not enough, “they shallhave a great punishment in worldhereafter” (Q. 5:34 ),- not befriend their own fathers orbrothers if they are not believers(Q. 9:23 ), (Q. 3:28 ),- kill their own family in the battles ofBadr and Uhud and asks Muslims to“strive against the unbelievers with greatendeavor” (Q. 25:52 ),- be stern with them because they belongto hell (Q. 66:9 ).How can any sensible person remainunmoved when he or she finds the Quransaying: “strike off the heads of theunbelievers” then after a “wide slaughteramong them, carefully tie up theremaining captives” (Q. 47:4 ).

Keep wasting your time. We have heard and seen it all. Is this all, or you have more verses you want to quote out of context or more misinterpretations for me? You are the deluded and obsessed one