eshbeewanna:


Please mr Ignorant can you please give us another name the Arab used for the one true God in Arabic before the advent of Islam?If Allah is not.

Can you tell your arab christian brothers who have been christians before you and your european brothers to remove Allah from their bible because that is what they used for God in their bible?

I ask you again is the word used for God by other race during the pagan period before christianity came to them the same God in your bible?Because you have embrassed them in your religion by using their gods to represent God in the various bible translations for each nation.
Please answer these questions.

It is you that is sooo ignorant of allahh's deception.

The arabs call whatever they worship allah (Quran 6:136). The pagans in Mecca were calling their idols allah including Muhammad's family idol.

It was when Muhammad went to worship allah at Hira as a pagan that he claimed 'angel' Gabriel appeared to him. Which allah did he go to worship at Hira as a pagan?

Then, Gabriel told him to continue to worship the same idol as the true God. When did Mutaleb idol (allahh) become the true God?

Because allah is an idol, that is why the muslims worship him in the exact way pagans worshiped their idols before islam.

[Quran 2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware

Thas quranic verse confirms the following hadiths:

Muhammad's pagan tribe, the
Quraish, fasted on the 10 th of
Muharram. Though optional,
Muhammad retained this pagan
practice too.

Narrated 'Aisha: 'Ashura' (i.e. the
tenth of Muharram) was a day on
which the tribe of Quraish used to
fast in the pre-lslamic period of
ignorance. The Prophet also used
to fast on this day. So when he
migrated to Medina, he fasted on
it and ordered (the Muslims) to
fast on it. When the fasting of
Ramadan was enjoined, it became
optional for the people to fast or
not to fast on the day of Ashura.
[Sahih Bukhari 5:58:172].

Doing Tawaf between Safa and
Marwa is an Islamic ritual
associated with the pilgrimage to
Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two
mounts, located at Mecca. This
ritual entails Muslims walking
frantically between the two
mounts, seven times. This was
originally a pagan pre-Islamic
practice. Muhammad retained it
for Islam, sanctioning it with yet
another Qur'anic revelation.

Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin
Malik: "Did you use to dislike to
perform Tawaf between Safa and
Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was
of the ceremonies of the days of
the Pre-lslamic period of
ignorance, till Allah revealed:
'Verily! (The two mountains) As-
Safa and Al-Marwa are among the
symbols of Allah. It is therefore no
sin for him who performs the
pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or
performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf
between them.' " (Quran 2.158)
[Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710]

From the quran and hadiths, it is so clear that islamic allah who has no Son is an idol (satan in disguise) and that is why he is worshiped like pagan gods.

The Arab Christians allah is the Father of Jesus Christ. They don't worship him like islamic allah. The Arabs call whatever they worship allah.

ebetek:
One
of the names of allah is "the most proud one".
Others are "khayru al-makireen" which means "the
greatest of all deceivers" and "al mumit" which
means "the creator of death". Is allah the same as
the Christian God?
13:11).

You just to full of ignorance with your comment s.

Let me help you out

Khayrul-makireen means-GOD is the best of all planners.

Is GOD not the creator of death?I ask you

truthman2012:


It is you that is sooo ignorant of allahh's deception.

The arabs call whatever they worship allah (Quran 6:136). The pagans in Mecca were calling their idols allah including Muhammad's family idol.

It was when Muhammad went to worship allah at Hira as a pagan that he claimed 'angel' Gabriel appeared to him. Which allah did he go to worship at Hira as a pagan?

Then, Gabriel told him to continue to worship the same idol as the true God. When did Mutaleb idol (allahh) become the true God?

Because allah is an idol, that is why the muslims worship him in the exact way pagans worshiped their idols before islam.

[Quran 2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware

Thas quranic verse confirms the following hadiths:

Muhammad's pagan tribe, the
Quraish, fasted on the 10 th of
Muharram. Though optional,
Muhammad retained this pagan
practice too.

Narrated 'Aisha: 'Ashura' (i.e. the
tenth of Muharram) was a day on
which the tribe of Quraish used to
fast in the pre-lslamic period of
ignorance. The Prophet also used
to fast on this day. So when he
migrated to Medina, he fasted on
it and ordered (the Muslims) to
fast on it. When the fasting of
Ramadan was enjoined, it became
optional for the people to fast or
not to fast on the day of Ashura.
[Sahih Bukhari 5:58:172].

Doing Tawaf between Safa and
Marwa is an Islamic ritual
associated with the pilgrimage to
Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two
mounts, located at Mecca. This
ritual entails Muslims walking
frantically between the two
mounts, seven times. This was
originally a pagan pre-Islamic
practice. Muhammad retained it
for Islam, sanctioning it with yet
another Qur'anic revelation.

Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin
Malik: "Did you use to dislike to
perform Tawaf between Safa and
Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was
of the ceremonies of the days of
the Pre-lslamic period of
ignorance, till Allah revealed:
'Verily! (The two mountains) As-
Safa and Al-Marwa are among the
symbols of Allah. It is therefore no
sin for him who performs the
pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or
performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf
between them.' " (Quran 2.158)
[Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710]

From the quran and hadiths, it is so clear that islamic allah who has no Son is an idol (satan in disguise) and that is why he is worshiped like pagan gods.

The Arab Christians allah is the Father of Jesus Christ. They don't worship him like islamic allah. The Arabs call whatever they worship allah.

Just look at how you exposed your ignorance the more.
So the same Allah that you called pagan god, is the father of jesus according to you.
By your claim you have come to agree that the word Allah is the true God in arabic.Thank you,you have just answered the question that there is no word in arabic for almighty God other than Allah whom the Muslims worship.
Simple logic!

eshbeewanna:


Hello if you are not a confused human being you would have known that the two verses you quoted have different meaning because in one of verse God was talking about human prophets and in the other angels.But your mischief will not allow you discern simple explanation and logic.

Please what do you have to explain about these below?

Contradictions

Matt 19:26 says “But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

“Judges 1:19 says “And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” This is remarkable on its own, revealing a far-from-omnipotent tribal god being defeated by technology
.
Mark 15:25 says “And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.”John 19:14-16 says “…about the sixth hour…they cried out…crucify him….Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified.”

2 Kings 24:8 says “Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months.”2 Chronicles 36:9 says “Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem…”

2 Kings 8:26 says “Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign…

”2 Chronicles 22:2 says “Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reing.

Rubbish!

He doesn't understand still. How would you as your brain has been tampered with by allahh?

Look at what he is saying? We are talking about allahh lying, he is talking about contradictions. If you want contradictions, there are so many of them in the quran. In fact, the whole of the quran is contradictions as allahh was abrogating his revelation as soon as revealed and claims he is replacing them with better ones:

Quran 2:106] None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things.

Allah kept making mistakes and making substitutions of his revelations, yet muslims say quran is free of errors.

What kind of god that is subject to many errors?

truthman2012:


Rubbish!

He doesn't understand still. How would you as your brain has been tampered with by allahh?

Look at what he is saying? We are talking about allahh lying, he is talking about contradictions. If you want contradictions, there are so many of them in the quran. In fact, the whole of the quran is contradictions as allahh was abrogating his revelation as soon as revealed and claims he is replacing them with better ones:

Quran 2:106] None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things.

Allah kept making mistakes and making substitutions of his revelations, yet muslims say quran is free of errors.

What kind of god that is subject to many errors?

You know when you point a finger at somebody the other ten fingers are pointing at you.The more comment you make the more you bust yourself.
I don't know why you keep banging your head over non issue.If you can't discern appropriately its better you remain in that state because is just an evidence of the confused state of mind that you are that still couldnt make you understand your scripture let alone understand Islam.
Obviously Islam will forever remain your source of worry and nightmare for eternity.

eshbeewanna:


You know when you point a finger at somebody the other ten fingers are pointing at you.The more comment you make the more you bust yourself.
I don't know why you keep banging your head over non issue.If you can't discern appropriately its better you remain in that state because is just an evidence of the confused state of mind that you are that still couldnt make you understand your scripture let alone understand Islam.
Obviously Islam will forever remain your source of worry and nightmare for eternity.

Trash!

Is this all you have to say about allahh's lie in this thread?

Is this all you want to say about islam being paganism as above proved?

Each time you face kaaba for solat, always remember you are worshiping an idol, not the true God.

eshbeewanna:


Just look at how you exposed your ignorance the more.
So the same Allah that you called pagan god, is the father of jesus according to you.
By your claim you have come to agree that the word Allah is the true God in arabic.Thank you,you have just answered the question that there is no word in arabic for almighty God other than Allah whom the Muslims worship.
Simple logic!

You can't understand a simple statement. The being the muslims call allah is not the same God the Arab Christians call allah. It told you with a quranic reference that arabs call anything they worship allah, even if it is a cow.

talkingtruth:
Only Men

Nor did We send before thee
(as messengers) any but MEN,
whom we did inspire,- (MEN)
LIVING IN HUMAN HABITATIONS. Do
they not travel through the
earth, and see what was the
end of those before them? But
the home of the hereafter is
best, for those who do right.
Will ye not then understand?
[Qur'an 12:109]

.....but MEN who lived among humans. Not angels.


Also angels

Allah chooses messengers from
ANGELS and from MEN for Allah
is He Who hears and sees (all
things).
[Qur'an 22:75]

The above quotes are from the 'Glorious Quran' without any discrepancies and reserved in heaven. How true?

The truth is: God had been sending both MEN and ANGELS to mankind before Muhammad was born.

Why is allahh lying on many pages of the quran?

Please try and use simple logic, the only problem i have is you are far from using it
The two verses you quote are similar and very well explained but you decided to make it ambiguous for your own personal gain. May Allah have mercy on you
The first is clearly saying almighty Allah has sent messengers to us men from men like us.meaning humans to humans example moses, Abraham, jesus and all other prophets ( may peace be on them all) to thier own people.
Theey all have a general message which is to believe in one God, abstain from evil and warn of terrible punishment that await people who don't listen and also tell them the rewards for those that work in righteousness.
The second verse you quote about Angel and men as messengers is simply talking about the fact that Angels have been send specially to some people to deliver messages. So apart from delivering messages to Allah chosen prophets. they have also given specific messages to people such as sarah wife of Abraham (as),Mary mother of jesus. These are specific messages from angels to certain righteous humans. But the general message warning us about the wrath and promises of God is usually from prophets who are human like us to human race. This is just basic understanding but Allah knows best


I know you might still not get it because your main goal is to find fault where there is none. So this is for the people who might get confused from what you have written trying to misinterprete the verses.

^ you dey mind him, he has no sense. Talking to him is like pouring water in a basket or like talking to the wall. That's a sad life to live.

bashbabe2:


Please try and use simple logic, the only problem i have is you are far from using it
The two verses you quote are similar and very well explained but you decided to make it ambiguous for your own personal gain. May Allah have mercy on you
The first is clearly saying almighty Allah has sent messengers to us men from men like us.meaning humans to humans example moses, Abraham, jesus and all other prophets ( may peace be on them all) to thier own people.
Theey all have a general message which is to believe in one God, abstain from evil and warn of terrible punishment that await people who don't listen and also tell them the rewards for those that work in righteousness.
The second verse you quote about Angel and men as messengers is simply talking about the fact that Angels have been send specially to some people to deliver messages. So apart from delivering messages to Allah chosen prophets. they have also given specific messages to people such as sarah wife of Abraham (as),Mary mother of jesus. These are specific messages from angels to certain righteous humans. But the general message warning us about the wrath and promises of God is usually from prophets who are human like us to human race. This is just basic understanding but Allah knows best


I know you might still not get it because your main goal is to find fault where there is none. So this is for the people who might get confused from what you have written trying to misinterprete the verses.

Humm!

It is you who didn't get it. In fact, no muslim can get it. The day you get it, it means your eyes are opened to see islamic deception. It is like talking to an insane person, nothing reasonable can make sense to him/her, not until the hypnotism is removed. I have seen a mad man calling a sane person mad and that is because he couldn't discover he was not normal.

Allah says he sent only MEN and no angels as messengers prior to the coming of Muhammad, right? It shows those angels who ministered to the various people before Muhammad were not sent by him. That is sooo simple to understand, all things being equal though.

truthman2012:


You can't understand a simple statement. The being the muslims call allah is not the same God the Arab Christians call allah. It told you with a quranic reference that arabs call anything they worship allah, even if it is a cow.

Who is this slowpoke? 'they call everything they worship Allah' so if they call him devil you will adopt it for your arab christians brothers as their God in their Bible?
Your lack of good reasoning will never allow you to discorver your foolishness.
I want to ask you again give us the name for the real God in arabic since Allah is not?
You can see that you have no other name than to adopt the name Allah for your christian brothers in the middle east.What a shame!

eshbeewanna:


Who is this slowpoke? 'they call everything they worship Allah' so if they call him devil you will adopt it for your arab christians brothers as their God in their Bible?
Your lack of good reasoning will never allow you to discorver your foolishness.
I want to ask you again give us the name for the real God in arabic since Allah is not?
You can see that you have no other name than to adopt the name Allah for your christian brothers in the middle east.What a shame!

Smh!

You can't understand anything.

Why are you silent on the quranic verse and the hadiths that confirm islamic allahh is one of the idols inside kaaba and that is why he is worshiped like an idol. Keep deceiving yourself. You hate your own soul.

truthman2012:


Smh!

You can't understand anything.

Why are you silent on the quranic verse and the hadiths that confirm islamic allahh is one of the idols inside kaaba and that is why he is worshiped like an idol. Keep deceiving yourself. You hate your own soul.

Ignorance has become a cancer in you what a pity.Let me educate you again the meccan arabs called their idols illah which mean small gods but when muhammed (peace be on him)came he preached to them that they should worship the one true God(Allah)they refused simply because they could not see him.Similarly this attitude is found in every idolators around the world even here in africa.Our fore father worshiped idol has intermiddiary of one true God.
But the funny thing about you christian is that you tried to deny the arabs to have a name for one true God(Allah)just because they are predominantly muslims and you don't want to accept Allah as one true God.
But funny enough you still recognised the same Allah as the Almighty God in the arabic Bible and also that Allah is jesus father according to you.
Aint you a confused hypocrite?
If you don't agree that Allah is the one true God of the arabs please give us the name for the one true God in arabic.You have not answered this question since have been asking you
.
Please tell me the difference between the english word for the almigty which they use capital( G) for God and small(g)for small gods.By pronounciation is it not the same sound you make when you say God and god?.yet you christians accepted the word God to mean Almighty but you didn't argue with them that you don't see any difference between the two (God and god).
Am very sure if all arabs were christians today you wouldn't have any problem with the word Allah.Anyway you still can't but accept the word Allah for almighty God in your Arabic bible.What a dilemma you find yourselves.

eshbeewanna:


Ignorance has become a cancer in you what a pity.Let me educate you again the meccan arabs called their idols illah which mean small gods but when muhammed (peace be on him)came he preached to them that they should worship the one true God(Allah)they refused simply because they could not see him.Similarly this attitude is found in every idolators around the world even here in africa.Our fore father worshiped idol has intermiddiary of one true God.
But the funny thing about you christian is that you tried to deny the arabs to have a name for one true God(Allah)just because they are predominantly muslims and you don't want to accept Allah as one true God.
But funny enough you still recognised the same Allah as the Almighty God in the arabic Bible and also that Allah is jesus father according to you.
Aint you a confused hypocrite?
If you don't agree that Allah is the one true God of the arabs please give us the name for the one true God in arabic.You have not answered this question since have been asking you
.
Please tell me the difference between the english word for the almigty which they use capital( G) for God and small(g)for small gods.By pronounciation is it not the same sound you make when you say God and god?.yet you christians accepted the word God to mean Almighty but you didn't argue with them that you don't see any difference between the two (God and god).
Am very sure if all arabs were christians today you wouldn't have any problem with the word Allah.Anyway you still can't but accept the word Allah for almighty God in your Arabic bible.What a dilemma you find yourselves.

This is the last time I will respond to your post on this thread, I cannot cope with your low reasoning mind.

The quran says what you muslims do is a pagan custom and the hadiths support it. Now, see your response to that issue, how are they related? Just beating about the bush. I don't have your time again. Smh!

truthman2012:


This is the last time I will respond to your post on this thread, I cannot cope with your low reasoning mind.

The quran says what you muslims do is a pagan custom and the hadiths support it. Now, see your response to that issue, how are they related? Just beating about the bush. I don't have your time again. Smh!

You know you don't have any defence any more that's why you are running away.
I will always bust your lies.Your pervated mind will always want to misinterprete the quran to suit your evil ways.
Did you ever agree that your paganistic believe about trinity,vicarious atonement and crucifiction are all pagan concept?Look how foolish your are Man of high reasoning.
Darkness will always vanish when the light comes.
The Truth shall always triumph over Lies.