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free123:
No matter how some people put it, christians do not practice killing, they forgive one another, even forgive mulsems that kill them. They follow the teachings of Jesus Christ on love, the need to love your neighbours and forgiveness. Jesus we imitate was an epitome of kindness, goodness, forgiveness, meekness, a giver of life to the dead, healer of the sick, giver of sight to the blind and fullness of everthing good one can think of. And this is what is being practice in our lives today and taught wherever christianity exists.

The opposite is the case when one looks at some islamic countries today. The mohammed they imitate was a war lord, a criminal, a womanizer, a terrorist, a taker of life, one who killed at will and claimed allah revealed such to him, One who cut peoples arms and legs and left them to leak their sores and die painfully, One who married a 9yr old girl who was still playing with her dolls, the list is endless.

Today these islamic countries who use quran as part of their constitution still carry out these evil of killing, unforgiveness, oppression of women and endless list of man's inhumanity to man.

These evils are well stated in their hadiths and practised today but some muslems deny them today because they were fortunate to taste western liberty.

Bloody islam!

plappville:
A tempter, Have u not been misqouting the bible in NL?? make fun of your keyboard and believe everyone here is like u!

Ozichim:
When you say Allah is the greatest @LegoShia "Islam is the TRUTH!Allah Is The Greatest!!!!]" It doesn't change anything.

If you are deceived you are deceived.

Tell me what Allah has done Before and now that make you believe in Him. What is the proves that He is the true God. Pls. don't tell me the Story pulled from the Bible.
Is it becouse Mohammed won (did not loose) a Battle? or
Is it becouse Mohammed conquered many tribes/towns for Allah and they become Islam?
no no no no! you are wiser than that.

I have told you the truth and you did not believe.

Ozichim:
Matthew 9:13  But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Romans 10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

I'm talking to you and every other person that has not accepted Christ into his life.
In Islam, is it a crime to pray asking God to have mercy on you and to show you the truth?

I'm trying to suggest that you ask God to reveal the truth to you; ie ask Jesus to prove himself to you if He is real or not.

Ozichim:
Hebrews 9:26  For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Hebrews 9:27  And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Hebrews 9:28  So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

We are all human any body can make mistake, anybody can be deceived, So I don't think it should be a crime for any human to insist on confirming that what he/she believe is the truth.

Ozichim:
This is a special and uncommon claim. And somebody has actually diffited death.

1 Corinthians 15:55  O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Matthew 28:1  In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Matthew 28:2  And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Matthew 28:3   His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
Matthew 28:4  And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
Matthew 28:5  And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Matthew 28:6  He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Matthew 28:7  And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.

So, pls. believe me somebody has power over death and that is Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Romans 9:33  As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Romans 10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:11  For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Ozichim:
I agree with you about the Jesus you believe and the Jesus Christians believe. Can you Imagin somebody coming to teach you about your father. It sounds funny that one man appeared and begin to tell Christians what they believe, after about 1500 years.

Judek2:
why are you so enraged?

Exactly my point, 

But he gave you another chance through his covenant with Isaac in his son Jesus Chrirt.

Ozichim:
Which Question is unanswered?

Judek2:
[size=20pt]An infant Christian is wiser than Muslim Imans,
The worst Christian is better than Mohammad.[/size]

Judek2:
You did well in bringing your brother to facts, he only knows how to press the keyboard

Judek2:
It is a corrupt man that searches for evidence in a corrupt book.

Your own perfect book is so unreliable that it has to depend on a corrupt book to stand.

Judek2:
Is that what you think? Mohammad made them great nothing else.

If you realy know how prophecies works,you wouldnt be so dumb.
The muslims today which are the descendants of Ishmael represents everything said about them. [b]he shall be a wild man,his hand shall be on every man and their hands shall be on him.[/b]

plappville:
If u don't curse me, then u are not a true muslim, u ought to practice according to Prophet command.

And where did u herited the love u are teaching? A muslim taling about love very contrary to the koran!.

plappville:
The worse muslim poster in NL

plappville:
Whatever claim u take in the bible is rubbish, a corrupt book is corrupt in all ways. Nothing written in the bible is true or divine, take it and stop forcing Islam into the corrupt bible.

(Jesus said, i am the way, the truth and the life, for no one cometh unto my Father but by me) this stands.

(Jesus warns us against false prophets. Mohamed fits in with all prove, by denying Jesus. "Beware of false prophets"

(for God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him will not perish but ve everlasting life, @lagoshia, do u believe in Him? If no it is be ause the bible is believed to be corrupt, this is valid for all chapter and verses u ve been using to bk up your false doctrine.

Leave the bible alone and concentrate in your koranic versee.

LagosShia:
is that the topic of the thread

plappville:
There are numerous hadiths which state that a person who commits adultery shall be stoned to death. Such hadiths are responsible for the fact that many people found guilty of adultery in traditional Muslim societies have been stoned to death over the past centuries, and it is still the case in a number of countries including Saoudia Arabia, Iran, Sudan, Pakistan, The United Arab Emirates, ….
Let us read again Muslim’s famous “Sahih” (“authentic”) hadith quoted earlier:
Adultery, Sahih Muslim, Book 017, Number 4191:
'Ubada b. as-Samit reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Receive (teaching) from me, receive (teaching) from me. Allah has ordained a way for those (women). When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female (they should receive) one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death.


(quran 24:2) [As for] the unchaste women (azzâniyatou) and the unchaste men (azzânî) [having intimate intercourse while not married to one another], flog each of them a hundred lashes, and do not let [your] pity towards them keep you from carrying out God’s law, if you believe in God and the Last Day. And let a group of believers witness their (dual = both of them) punishment. (24:3) The unchaste men shall not be able to marry except a person guilty of fornication/adultery or a pagan, and the unchaste woman will not be able to marry except a person guilty of fornication/adultery or a pagan; Such a thing is forbidden for the believers (al muwmineen = Muslims).

plappville:
It was to end up like that, he says? IT IS FINISHED on the cross, and then he gave up the ghost, that was the main reason u and i can be saved today.

Judek2:
He holds the key to both Life and Death.

Glad to know that (Isa) in your Koran is not my Jesus, just as your (Mariam) is not Mary, his earthly mother. And (Allah) is not his Heavenly Father. He created the pagans that created (Allah).

The Koran says that you and all (every) muslim must go to hell :p

And you are more foolish than your warrior, to say he was prophesied about in the Silly book.

plappville:
Nothing like write up, we all read the history, There must be 99.9per trace of truth about the kaaba.
My hubby has alot of history books, if i could ve the time, i will read them more, all kind of History books, even the La BIBLE, coran,(KORAN) CLEOPATRE Egypt, etc etc, They are books u hardly find in shops these days, herited from gene to gene, my kids will read them too. although,  one can find similars on net but not all are accurate.

If u conderm every other History book as faulse, how can u then claim the socalled kuran is true? like u said, there is no one living today that was alive during days of these prophets, so how did your Mohamed came about Abraham and Ishmael building the Kaaba if not through History? and there is no History back up for its claims which shows how he has over manipulated things and arrived at making this errors.

post the route Abraham and Ishmael took to Mecca and i will post u the places recorded in the bible that Abraham visited, u will not tell me that the Old testament is also wrong 

plappville:
(John 2:13-22)
A reference made after the satanic verse has been enrased from the loran by hohammed? eehhm! this is why u can't know the true origin of the kaaba. I will tell u that @Jedek2 has already explain the truth in a way even achild will understand. Let me do more then.

[b]Although these verses do not appear in the Koran anymore, but which Muhammad was believed to have uttered as part of his “revelation” that sought compromise with the Quraysh, referring as they did to the 3 godesses.

[s]These are the exalted birds whose intercession is approved.[/s]

These  verses were a revelation to the quraysh. “because the koran appeared to ve endorsed the piety of their fathers and to ve abandoned its monotheistic message, when” Karen Armstrong wrote in Mohamad: A Biography of the Prophet, the quraysh “no longer saw Islam as a sacrilegious threat that could bring a catastrophe on the people of Mecca.” they now embraced Mohamad’s religion and prepared to welcome him back into the fold.

[s]Why/How did Mohamad Rejects the Satanic Verses[/s]

But before the quraysh had the time to act on the perceivec compromise, mohamad himself, came to his senses, judged the verses that approved the intercession of the “exalted birds” to ve been inspired by Satan, he now rejected them with a new "revelation" as below:::::

[s][b]They are but names which you and your fathers have invented: [/b]God has vested no authority in them.[/s]

The unbelievers follow but vain conjectures and the whims of their own souls, although the guidance of their Lord has long since come to them. Tell me who is fooling who? We sure know the truth of the god of the muslim.


Islamic historians Ibn Saad and Abu Ja’far mohamad al-Tabari said that, Mohamad was truely interested in looking for a compromise that would end the rift btw his ppl and the Quraysh. the quraysh on their own part, had sent out trail balloon: give the Quraysh a sign that you’d be willing to compromise on your absolute monotheism.
That could open the way to a solution in togetherness.


And so Muhammad, according to the Islamic historians say, once heard a "revelation" that three goddesses worshipped by the Quraysh — al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat — could be revered and worshipped. [/b]Word spread to the Quraysh. To the tribe leaders, Muhammad’s allowance was taken as a concession that [b]the three goddesses had equal billing with god in the koran. and if the Prophet was willing to worship the three goddesses, then all could be well again between Mohammad and the quraysh, who’d be willing to pray with Muslims and open Mecca’s doors to them again. It was all an agreement btw both mohammed and the Quraysh.The only way he could ve succeeded is the way he did it. Nothing absolute was devine right from the start.