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plappville:
(John 2:13-22)
“13: When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
14:. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables
exchanging money.
15:.So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple
area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned
their tables.
16:. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"
17:. His disciples remembered that it is written: "Zeal for your house will consume me."
18:. Then the Jews demanded of him, "What miraculous sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?"
19:. Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."
20:. The Jews replied, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, [/b]and you are going to raise it in three days?"
21:. But the temple he had spoken of was his body.
22. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said.
Then they believed the Scriptureand the words that Jesus had spoken.”1

[b]Did u see that Jesus sent them out with authourity? he didn't say "as from today it will be my fathers house. NO, it has been his Fathers house right from day one of the construction of that Temple.

The second bold tells u who bold the temple and what the temple was meant for.

Yes always your ways, after all your ranting you still never answer my question. I ask you who be Build the temple you still giving me same old stories spare me all that.
According to Islamic History Abraham and Ishmael Build Kaaba and there is reference for it and you have read it yourself in the Holy Quran.
So now tell me according to Bible, Who build the Temple and what is the name of the Temple? and mind you there is nothing in the second bold to proof who build the temple.

plappville:
To the bold, mohammed himself enrased this satanic verse from the kuran, so how can the prove be in it? but thank God before he corrected himself, history had noted this verse in the koran, wait i will come up with it. U know not the secret behind a religion u are backing

You never cease to Amaze me you know, don't you think you are stupi.d to even think someone erased something from the Quran? do you think its the same way Paul and some 40 men erased alot of verses from the bible? i always tell you to give me proof from Holy Quran but you cannot trying to come up with some write ups cmon you can do better than that girl. i have put alot of Verses to you guys but instead of you to defend them you keep changing topics,But i have defend all the verses you put to me you now that shame is on you guys there are more verses for you to defend ooo.

Judek2:
I just shake my head after reading some of your silly questions.
Afterall, your Mohammad was confused when he mistook Mariam the sister of Moses and Aeron to be the mother of Jesus.
The same confusion runs through your veins.

Look at a simple verse you crack your brain to understand yet you cant,people like you needs no attention atall.
Ignorance is realy a disease.

you shake for yourself cos you don't understand your bible yourself, This is simple Question, SInce you are a Christian i believe you should understand. Ok let me help you once more, If someone said Take #100, Give Judek2 #20,Bashy #20,Lagoshia #20, The seeker #20 and give the boy #20, if you are not Daft wont you ask who is the boy?
so since the jews ask John are you the Christ? he say no. Are you Elijah, he say no. and they ask are you that Prophet? now tell me who that prophet is you keep blabbering around the threads shame on you Jude. You are a disgrace to Christianity and to your Parents they waste so much money on you.

Judek2:
At the time Muhammad received his initial visitation, there were over 300 gods being worshiped in Mecca by pilgrims who came there each year to pray at the Ka'aba, a small cubic building that housed a black meteorite and effigies of the various gods. One of those gods was Allah, the
moon god. Muhammad decided to proclaim that there was only one god — and he selected Allah as that god.That's the reason the crescent moon became the symbol of
Islam. Muhammad also proclaimed that he was the prophet of Allah.

Jews and Christians were not the only ones who rejected Muhammad's new revelations. The people of his own tribe, the Quraysh, also rejected him. In response, Muhammad succumbed to the temptation to appease his tribe by announcing that it would be okay for them to worship the three daughters of Allah — named Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Ma-nat. This declaration led to the infamous "Satanic verses" of the Koran which were later deleted when Muhammad reverted back to monotheism. Muslims have tried ever since to cover-up this diversion from the faith.

Jude, I have always warn you not to argue for Argument sake, Try to Argue with fact. Is there any prof to back up your claims from the Holy Quran? Don't ever come up with some crap telling me you read them online. I have always back my claim up with proof from your book. Mohammad is the Prophet that call the entire world to Mecca, So where did you come up with those 300, brother you don't need to lie in other win debate/argument that wont help you.

Alhamdulillah! Alhamdulillah!! Alhamdulillah!!!

@plappville The way you respond to those comments are confusing but i'll help a little with them

plappville:
((The temple was built purposely for worshiping God. its origin is God's house not like the Kaaba. if u understand Jesus accused them of ("turning the Temple" to a den of thieves etc, If the origin of the building is for pagan worship, Jesus will not distroy they gambling. He told them that it is his "FATHERS HOUSE"

Can you tell me who Build the temple and for what Purpose? and also what is the name of the Temple? is it the same Solomon Temple?

plappville:
As for the Kaaba, it's Origin was total "PAGAN" The kaaba existed far before Mohamed. It was under the control of one of the most important tribes of Mecca, the Quraysh. It was used as a shrine for pagan idols, especially al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat, known together as al-Gharaniq (Daughters of Allah), and Hubal, a marriage god. When Muhammad took control of Mecca he cleaned out the idols and dedicated the Kaaba to allah Undecided U can see your comparation of kaaba and the temple of GOD that was been misused by some people for their own commercial interest before Jesus came to distroy them is not same issue as the kaaba. ))

i think you need to read more about Kaaba, The purpose of Kaaba Purposely for worshiping God, But since the rate of idol worshiper are higher than the believer then so they turn it into idol house, if you need to read more about Kaaba here is a reference to help you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba#In_the_Qur.27an

plappville:
((Jesus came to fullfile the prophecies, He proved it in all ways, he thaught LOVE and PEACE, if Mohamed has to follow the step as God instucted Jesus, why not teach Love and Peace instead of violence? Why no miracles, signs was performed by him? Yes he wrote the koran, but is that a miracle? because that is the only Miracle Mohamed claimed he performed. Undecided))

and what prophecies did he come and fulfill? Did i hear you say he preach Love and Peace? then am not sure who is lying here maybe Paul or Jesus


Matthew 10:30-40:

30But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

31Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

32Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

40He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Can you please explain those verses

its post #131

There is no traces of plappville on here today maybe she ran to other thread like she always do

davidylan:
are his statements not FACT?

show me the fact in his Statements, Sorry i forgot none is better among una

^^^ Hey newbie get a better fact if not go back and suck breast,  your mates are not here 

^^^Jude you are not a Coward are you? You cannot defend those verses because you yourself don't understand your bible. Defend the bolds, I did not understand them,  Who is the Christ? Jesus. Who is Elijah? He is also a prophet we all know him. Then who is that prophet? Holy Spirit please explain for me i need to understand who that prophet is please

Judek2:
Mehn, your prophet deserve this tittle (Curse be upon him)

and yours in your bible deserve this (Death be upon him)

Judek2:
One big secret about the revelation of Korainic verses is that they are revealed to back up and justify Mohammads deeds after he has done it.

The Koran was revealed by Mohammad and written by his Slaves (followers)

and the Big secret about the bible Verses is that they are reveal to enrich there pocket and decieve you to eternity Hell fire.

The bible was reveal by Paul the lair and was written by some silly 40men

^^^ am not approving him. That idio.t call chuks is trying to turn this into Religious stuffs that was why i say that

Judek2:
I am only but a warner   

You are blaspheming against your prophet by asigning a miracle to him,and he will suicide-bomb you if he ever sees you.   

Stop fooling around,why did you stop half way? Maybe you should complete the passage.
Your brain is so much saturated with false and hallucinative claims that you cannot read and understand a simple text,

Since he did not mention his name initially,the invisible man is now the Warner?

The Testimony of John
    19 This is (AI)the testimony of John, when (AJ)the Jews sent to him priests and Levites (AK)from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 And he confessed and did not deny, but confessed, “(AL)I am not [q]the Christ.” 21 They asked him, “What then? Are you (AM)Elijah?” And he *said, “I am not.” “Are you (AN)the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 Then they said to him, “Who are you, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?” 23 He said, “I am (AO)A VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS, ‘MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD,’ as Isaiah the prophet said.”

now Oga explain the bold to me. Can Christ and that prophet be the same person? secondly why did they Mention Christ, Elijah and then say that Prophet. Dint the prophet have a name?


  24 Now they had been sent from the Pharisees. 25 They asked him, and said to him, “Why then are you baptizing, if you are not the [r]Christ, nor Elijah, nor (AP)the Prophet?” 26 John answered them saying, “(AQ)I baptize [s]in water, but among you stands One whom you do not know. 27 It is (AR)He who comes after me, the (AS)thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28 These things took place in Bethany (AT)beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

   29 The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him and *said, “Behold, (AU)the Lamb of God who (AV)takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is He on behalf of whom I said, ‘(AW)After me comes a Man who [t]has a higher rank than I, (AX)for He existed before me.’ 31 I did not recognize [u]Him, but so that He might be manifested to Israel, I came baptizing [v]in water.” 32 John (AY)testified saying, “(AZ)I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not recognize [w]Him, but He who sent me to baptize [x]in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, (BA)this is the One who baptizes [y]in the Holy Spirit.’ 34 I myself have seen, and have testified that this is (BB)the Son of God.”

@ the bold here again what do you think that look like? is like someone is narating some story and say it happen in one Village call Badagry beyond Seme Border Lagos. hahaha LWKMDH

LOL na so oo she don run again since from another thread since yesterday

Judek2:
Now @Paris10, you have to be more rational in your critisisms on peoples posts.
I totally agree with @Plappville on her above posts. The posts speaks of both fake prophets and fake pastors, as you can observe.

My marked No (1) ,(2) and (4) above directly points to Mohammad expecially @no (4)

On her post post on no (3) is directly to fake pastors as Mohammad couldnt perform miracles. So when you judge,judge with facts.

Hmmmm now i see you just don't know what you are talking about here. I laugh at you Jude so post 1,2 and 4 is refering to Mohammad how about Paul did that not accept Jesus and later bring xtianity and Bible wake up boy,  there are lots of Fake pastors and Prophet today, They are the generation of Paul and some 40men.

and From Idahosa, to Olumba, to Oritsejafor. Stupidity runs in there blood and brain

proo212:
@ the seeker perhaps you should have started your bible quote from verse 21 then on to 22-23 that you quoted. 21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven but only those who do the will of my father in heaven.

Then you can carry on to the verse you quoted. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know you quoted that verse inappropriately. I dare say even the most hardened atheist can tell what that passage meant.

You have even committed another blunder, did your prophet do the will of our Lord's father? The same book of Matthew chapter 5 @ verse 44 love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Did your prophet preach that?

What are the will of the lord you are talking about Mr?

I have been reading through all the post and i think some people are just confused,  Frosbel you bring out some similarities between Moses,Jesus, and Mohammad. You also said Moses and Mohammad has both parent why Jesus has only Mother. Moses and Mohammad are married with children but Jesus did not,  Talking about Miracles, Like the seeker said there are lots of Miracles perform by only prophet But we are not Miracle mongers

Matthew 16:4:
4A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign, and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonah." And He left them and departed.

and about what they ask John

John 1:18-22:

   18No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.
   
   19And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, "Who art thou?"

   
   20And he confessed and denied not, but confessed, "I am not the Christ."

   
   21And they asked him, "What then? Art thou Elijah?" And he said, "I am not." "Art thou that Prophet?" And he answered, "No."

   
   22Then said they unto him, "Who art thou, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What sayest thou of thyself?"



So tell me if he is not Chtist,Elijah, the the prophet, then who is the prophet and why did they refuse to mention the name of the prophet?

^^ I see then let them begin with it

Matthew 24:23-26:

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25Behold, I have told you before.

26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

This Jubril Aminu most be mad,  What his concern about are they not an organization? this is the kind of man they make them think all Muslims are they same with his level of education, Shame on him

@Judek2 Can you try to defend my comment up there since plappville and David refuse to respond to it

^^ and your God inhuman was beaten, mollest, Killed and you are worshiping a weakened God

@davidylan & plappville where are you guys oooo

davidylan:
you're quite ignorant right? Most islamic scholars have attempted to identify Dhu’l-Qarneyn as alexander the great. Some have also tried to identify him as Cyrus the great with no success. the major problem with islam is that OUTSIDE of the names it copies shamelessly from the bible, NOT A SINGLE name mentioned in the quran of either people or places has been proven to be archaeologically or historically accurate.

Then you most be a stupi.d church goer if you only listen to what your pastors said without checking reffrence from your bible if its true, i have never come accorss or hear about that name from any Muslim scholar and beside my Quran is there to proof you right or wrong so Mr&Mrs your guys are wrong

davidylan:
i wonder why bashy is taking so long to respond to this. Did allah forget how old dear alexander the great truly was? Ripe old age of 33? Bashy na wa for allah, you better rescue his battered reputation . . . feel free to quote the bible!

sorry i am responding to one of her comment on another thread.

plappville:
How does it feel like making fun of writing faults? I don't usually care if my threads carry some spelling fault or not, i strongly believe ppl ve this "i dont care" habit in forum or chat room. U must correct some of the bold i marked for u as well, hahahaha, i meant to say "serve" not save.

am not making fun of you and that was why i said pardon me. i know its a typo and that was why i answer your Question.

plappville:
If they were serving idols before Mohammed, u will agree with me that they were serving the kaaba, the same Kaaba u muslims worship today  

Well the same way Synagogue are been use as a place of idol and for Gambling before the arrival of Jesus Christ(Isa)

plappville:
If u accept other prophets were from GOD, U should also know that, these prophets before Mohammed were not into idolatery. Did God just decides to change from a teaching "MERCI WITH JESUS" to the people, and introduced a total "TERROR, BRUTAL" teaching to the people by Mohameds?? How did Momammed fits in with others past prophets??

then you dont read your bible,  people have been worship idol before the coming of each prophet and they still do till this day,  and beside each prophet where send to there people,  Quran30:47 And We have already sent messengers before you to their peoples, and they came to them with clear evidences; then We took retribution from those who committed crimes, and incumbent upon Us was support of the believers.

so if you are asking how Mohammad fits in with the other prophets, Then i'll ask you how did Jesus fits in too since there are lots of prophets before him.

plappville:
Let me prove u wrong with your mentality of (JESUS DID NOT COME FOR U):
Yes becos the Jews re God's chosen people, God chose Israel as the means by which to BLESS the world with the Word of God, the Savior, the Apostles, Salvation, and Christianity itself.

This is why Israel as a nation is precious in God's eyes. However, the Scripture plainly states that God is "NO" respecter of persons (Acts 10:34) and that there is "NO" difference between the Jew and the Gentile (Romans 10:12). We as Christians re not obligated/expected to befriend the heathen nation of Israel today.

Jesus said to his disciples:

They are to make disciples of both u and me.

Who are the world? only the nation of Israel? no, u and me are included, because it also says every creature.

U must know effect from now that, everything that God ever did through Israel was with one intent—to bring salvation to the human race. Thank God for the precious redeeming literal blood of Jesus Christ that washes our sins away. (1st Peter 1:18,19; Revelation 1:5). make sure u Read these verses, dont be ignorant about the truth

Then you have to proof this verses to me, I mean what they mean,  maybe its the bible that is lying or Jesus or the God of the bible

Matthew 15:22-24:

   22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

   23But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

   24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

  So tell me what he mean by he was not sent but to the lost sheep of Israel? since the woman is not an Israel that was why he dont wanna help her and telling his desciples that he wasn't sent to her tribe.

Matthew 19:28:

   28And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


Why dint he say he is going to Judge the world but only the 12 tribes of Israel meaning from each Disciples

Please explain

plappville:
Is it not this same bible u use to qualify your prophet as true? Of course i ve no reason to compare, a devine word of God and that of a mere man.

In Sura 18:83-97, it says of the adventures of a man named [b]“Dhu’l-Qarneyn,”[/b]a title that means “Two-Horned.”If we read furthermore, it wrote that Dhu’l-Qarneyn which is (ALEXENDER THE GREAT) lived to a ripe old age. Will u agree with this riped old age koran story? is this not contradiction of history and error of the koran?

Are u the owner of this title?   He was portrayed with two horns in ancient Greek book.
defend your koran now

Like i said my own Quran never mention Alexander the great i am on it on www.quran.com and there is nothing like, maybe you have been trying to make copies of Quran but your plan cannot work ok.

@plappville You are nothing but a bunch of crap. can you show me in the Holy Quran where you see Alexander the Great. I always tell you, You cannot compare my Quran to your bible they are far form each other,

Judek2 you just run and re surface like a Coward. The Like of you,plappville and Frosbel are well known. You run like a Coward

davidylan:
why? and waste my time with a bunch of lying nutters?
Hey did you cut yourself with a cutlass during ashura? Funny people.

you are to small to debate with boy