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SIRTee15:
If Allah is not omnipresent, then he's not God that revealed himself to the Patriarch- Abraham, Isaac and Moses.

The God of Abraham and Moses we call Father is not Allah.

End of discussion.

I answered your question, whatever it is. Your response was U don't understand it.

1. The problem with you is you like God to man. Unlike humans, His power and knowledge are absolute and omnipresent so His physical presence adds nothing to His power and greatness. Afterall, we humans need to be physically present because our knowledge and authority are limited by our physical presence or absence.

2. As a Muslim, we don't believe Moses or Abraham or Isaac saw God. They only communicated with Him. Even Moses, who spoke directly to God only saw His Light, not His actual essence.

3. If you think well, you'll see that your claim and understanding of God revealing Himself to those prophet's actually negate your claim of God's physical omnipresence. If He is fully present in one location, then He is not fully present elsewhere. That would limit Him, which contradicts the concept of an infinite God.

4. If your God is omnipresent, then he's also in cow dung, and pig butt? If He is truly everywhere in a literal sense, then He must be in the lowest and most impure places too. This logic goes against the very concept of divine majesty.

5. You never answered any of my questions. You only did mental gymnastics that every sensible person knows lacks substance.

You can't shame the shameless.

This government doesn't even try to hide it's shamelessness and impunity.

It's disgusting.

But we will all die someday and give account of all our actions (and inactions).

SIRTee15:
U are too shallow for me to waste my time on ..I don't have what it takes to engage in any sound theology.
Just answer a simple question
Is Allah omnipresent?

He is omnipresent with his power and knowledge. But not omnipresent in his essence.

Mind you, I clearly noticed how you shifted the debate topic again but once again I'll let you have fun with your L.

SIRTee15:
Well it's in the injeel so I don't know what U mean by salad, I didn't make it up- read John 1.18.

U are best ignored, But for sake of others, I will give more exegesis.

Jesus is not another God. He's simply referred to as God because he has the same divinity as his Father.
His personal designation is the Son of God.
It's the same divinity in both of them, one divinity not 2.

Let's assume the Father's divinity cease, the Son's divinity automatically disappears. The divinity in both the Son and Father is the same. THE DIVINITY IS NOT DIFFERENT.
Same as existence, the existence of father and Son is One not Two.

HOW THIS IS DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND BY EDUCATED MIND IS WHAT I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
ITS SIMPLE LOGIC.

It's one thing to reject a principle because U don't believe in it. It's another thing to lack the basic cognitive reasoning to comprehend simple things.

It's like saying the air in Sokoto is different from the air in Lagos. Air is Air my friend. Whether in kafancha or kontagura. The composition of air is the same anywhere and anytime so long as it AIR.

The problem is with the Quran.

There's a serious foundational knowledge gap in Quran which is the genesis of this unnecessary argument.

The writers of the Quran were oblivious of the omnipresent nature of God. They didn't know God can be in multiple places at the same time.

When God was described in the Quran, the writers commited a serious blunder by tying God to one location which is above his throne. This inadvertently means his divinity is fixed and immobile.

This definitely contradict the previous scriptures- both old and new testament which confirms the omnipresent nature of God and the manifestation of his divinity in multiple places at the same time.
These include

presence of God in the tabernacle,
the glory of God in the holy of holies of the Israelite temple,
The Angel of the Lord who spoke to the Patriarch including Abraham and Moses
The spirit of God as described in the tanakh and Talmud.
The One like a Son of Man who spoke to Ezekiel.
The memra of the Lord as described in the Targum scriptures.
Finally Jesus Christ who is the word of God in flesh.

It's then embarrassing to say the least that the so called final revelation had no knowledge of this attribute. It's not like the Quran denied God as omnipresent, Quran simply didn't know God is omnipresent.

This defective knowledge gap in the Quran shouldn't be overlooked but should be questioned.
This is the reasons Muslims find it difficult to conceptualise that the divinity of God can be in Jesus Christ.
This is also the reason Muslims say Allah cannot enter his creation because they are afraid if Allah does enter his creation, then his throne in heaven will be empty and abandoned.

1. You said it's in the Qur'an but when asked for reference you're saying it's in the injeel.

2. What you have with you is the bible not the injeel revealed to Jesus. After all, the book of John you quoted was written by John not Jesus himself. And it wasn't written during Jesus' lifetime.

3. Every other thing you wrote is an epistle of nothing. Nobody with a working intellect will give it any attention.

SIRTee15:
Jesus is the Son of God. That's why he's God. He has the same nature/essence as his Father.

John 1
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


Your Qur'an admits to above. That's why it said if Allah truly has a Son, then the Son must also be worshipped.

What's this salad you wrote.
He is son of God and he is God. This statement defies all logic but you're a Christian so I'm not surprised.

The Qur'an explicitly condemns any insinuation of sonship for God. Stop deceiving yourself.

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To prevent motorists from driving the wrong way on one-way roads, the Oyo State Government has started installing 'One-Way Tyre Spikes.' This one here is located along Idi-Ape.

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— Oyo Affairs (@Oyoaffairs) March 4, 2025

will not do it. They need that daily egunje loke their life depends on it.

smokinloud:
SHOW ME ONE PROPHET OR NON-PROPHET ON EARTH THAT EVER MADE THAT CLAIM THAT "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND LIFE" AND I WILL SAY THE SHAHADA RIGHT NOW AND HIT MY HEAD ON THE GROUND FOR THE MECCAH STONE. FYI, ALLAH IN ISLAM IS THE ONLY TRUTH AND LIFE. JESUS MAKING THIS CLAIM CLAIMS TO BE ALLAH. IT CAN'T GET CLEARER.

Simple question, how does his statement mean he is God? Instead of answering you're committing a fallacy of exact quote.

Anyways, the second part of his sentence already clarifies the matter for you. "No one comes to the father..." means he and the so-called father are different entities.

It's not hard but sentiments obscure commonsense.

EXOUSIAng:
Your joblessness and poverty is not the status quo sir.
I live in the UK but my businesses in Nigeria have me the most money in the last one year.
Agriculture being the chief of them.
Go and get knowledge, most of you hating the government for hunger and lack of jobs are not even employable. Most of you have nothing to offer.
You can't blame the government for your ignorance.
If I ask you the last time you picked up a book now, you may not even remember....

Now instead of taking correction and taking advice, watch how he will come and rain insults on me.

I dey UK I dey farm for Nigeria, last December I was on the farm harvesting yams by myself.

You go dey Nigeria, you no get work but pride no go allow you enter farm.

Proud people should have something to be proud of. Having on an empty pocket and empty stomach is the dept of stupidity

You do know all you typed above makes you sound dim, right?

EmperorIsaac:
But you won't see where he says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but by me." Jesus is Lord! No argument will be etertained. Accept Him as your Lord God today.

Of course he's the way because he's a prophet (aka teacher) so it only makes sense that anyone who was alive during his time will only reach God by following his teachings.
But that in no way makes him God or a part of God.

After all, there wee many prophets before him. Such as Abraham and Moses. And they were also the "way, the truth, and the life" of their lifetime and place.

Therefore, what you quoted isn't an excuse for worshipping a man like you.

Shedrack777:
He should have been delt with before letting him go, so that next time, he won't try to steal again.
It's better he begged for it than stealing it

This one they did is enough shame for him.

May Allah ease our affairs this Ramadan and make us sustain the all the good we learn in this blessed month.

Aameen.

Righteousness2:
By the Mercies of GOD, I cancel the Blindness, HBP and all other complications. . Let her sight be Restored in the Name of JESUS CHRIST...

AMEN.

Miscreant!

Dyfynezz12:
Forget abt the messenger ND take the message.
He said the truth

No, he said rubbish!
Why should anyone need to work himself to coma before being able to afford basic living?

Extra hustle should be for those who want to acquire luxury. It shouldn't be a requisite for existence.

DryMouth:
People still dey buy peugeot?
This car nearly made me commit su*cide

It wasnt a funny experience

Skill issue?

Tjra:
Your women dey wear hijab no mean say dem no dey fvck around.

You think say na by wearing black Lab coat?

A criminal always thinks all saints are pretenders.

Akpabio is a clown.

The woman is now engaged. Please face your primary assignment instead of disturbing 200million people.

The woman is a harmless paperweight politician. So I don't understand why he's stressing over her if not for...

Otamendi99:
Don't worry, i now understand ur biased mindset. Not to d matter at hand but for hatred of akpabio n his master. Just as stated on d second paragraph.. u will be fine

Hatred?! Slow down buddy!
Since when did criticism become hatred? No wonder they arrest critics. To them critics are haters and must be silenced by fire or by force.

Otamendi99:
I'm sure if u had watched d video wen all dis started, u won't say that. Akpabio was trying to calm d situation between her and d oda senator.. but instead she disrespected dat president office because she get plle like u weh go back her.

I watched the video.
You can't talk down on people like that as a leader and expect improvement. Even Akpabio and his master won't take such form of correction from anyone.

Isn't it funny to see this coming from a government that arrests and subdues anyone who dares to criticise them?

zed7:
Senator say na chip whip. These are the people controlling enlightened and civilised people.

Let's face the issue. The man's accent is only a distraction. Everywhere in the world, people have accents. Nothing special.

The issue here is that Akpabio lacks leadership traits.

Otamendi99:
We are too emotional in dis country especially wen we don't like the other person. Dia is a seat arrangement in NASS. Everyone speaks from dia, so y shld she not move to d seat assigned to her. Now everyone will say akpabio is after her kpekus.

Except you deliberately want to humiliate someone, there's no reason a good leader will act as Akpabio acted.

How can you act so condescendingly to a colleague like that and think it's normal?

What Akpabio did is called public humiliation and disgrace. It should only be done to serial and stubborn offenders. Except Akpabio can prove that she does this repeatedly despite being called to order respectfully and privately, his act remains unworthy of leadership.

Moreover, this isn't the first time he's having a cross fire with the woman. So it's easy to assume this was a deliberate witch-hunt.

This man has never been on the news for anything good since he became senate president. He should better try to fix his battered image. Oh, we're in Nigeria, there's no accountability here so he's immune to reckless and dirty PR.

What is Ado-Ekiti-Igede road?

Fayemi already did new Ado-Iyin Road. So what's left is to do Iyin-Igede road.

Moreover, Aramoko-Igede is far worse than Iyin-Igede (or the so-called Ado-Ekiti-Igede road).

These people matter tire person.

drehdinho:
They lied to you bro. Our political rulers are harden criminals. You may be surprised to know that the proprietary software you mentioned is a package deliberately set up to execute corruption plans between them and the so called German company.

Yes. Don’t trust companies. It’s where the highest level of monetary transaction happens same as where the highest level of corrupt practices occur.

Most of our political rulers are pro internet fraudsters. It’s that recognition amongst their cronies that brought most of them to where they are. They operate at a very high frequency.


They know if they hired a local developer they won’t be able to get much and high chances their secret will come in open in no time.

In the world of fraud practice, advanced fraudsters don’t joke with transactions that support offshore locations , shell companies and many more entities designed to veil their corrupt operations.

You should ask yourself the question again ? Why didn’t they hire Nigerian developers?

Do you think they were not aware there are expert Nigerian developers ?

Or do you think logically, the service an expert Nigerian developer would offer will not surpass what the German developers would offer the nation owning to the crop of software engineers with ingenuous technology innovation that had sprung up from Nigeria in recent years ?

Brother , think about it again.

Do you think the thieves were not aware ?
They are fraudsters bro. Open your eyes.

I have no doubt that they looted a lot.
But I know for sure that they bought the license.

The main problem here I believe is padi-padi hiring. Instead of hiring a competent expert they just pick their election/party crew member that's most familiar with the project and put him incharge.

I've consulted on many government projects and can categorically tell you that the project manager from the government side is almost always a clueless person.

So, the problem is in two stages:
1. Looting lots of the project funds.
2. Kangaroo in-house hiring.

I have almost firsthand info about this project.

Firstly, it's not just a website as many are saying. It's a data-driven web application

Secondly, indeed the government spent a lot of money on the project. They procured servers, ESRI enterprise license and even hired German developers.

But the project failed because our government didn't use our local talent. That 700m is small money to those German companies. But if you spend 300m on a team of naija Devs, ọmọ they'll write code till thy Kingdom come. And they'll even be easier to monitor.

For example, few months ago, the ministry contacted the German contractors to fix some issues in the portal and they asked for 20k USD. That's like 32M. A naija dev will do it easily and competently for 5m.

Also, the money spent on the ESRI license is too much. Developing countries round the world are using open source technologies. They only use proprietary software when necessary. When you use opensource technology, you're saving money, contributing to human knowledge, building your local talent.
But when you use proprietary software, you're just contributed to one silicon valley CEO's private yatch.

CodeTemplar:
I saw the earning/profit from one hectare of cassava move from N300,000 to N3,000,000.
I saw same increase for rice, beans, palm oil, groundnut and many more crops.

I also saw office workers start lamenting from bouncing with broad shoulder n well ironed shirts.

Farmers are lamenting big time.

Righteousness2:
Your Ramaphosa is just rabble rousing about.

The very same thing he was Jumping and parambulating about just few months is the very same thing being done to him now. He is busy crying up and down.

The other day he said Trump should mind his business.
But the same Ramophosa is the one who carried ISRAEL on his head just few months ago jumping and wasting tax payers fund on a useless matter.

Quit crying about disturbing our peace Mr Ramophosa.
What Goes around comes around.

Why is your trajectory always tangential to commonsense?

ValarDoharis:
You can deny all you want but 99.5% of terrorism is link to Izlam

It's not "all terrorists are Muslims" again? It's now 99.5%.

helinues:
The hypocritical people.

Their behaviours could be worst than the police officers.

Kidnappers wey dey curse Armed robbers, no be self cursing be that

Ask guys for example to say May guys treat their daughters the way they treated ladies, let's see how many of them can do amen to such prayers

Why are you triggered?

Bookhub:
They will evacuate you by force,the same way millions of ethnic Germans were evacuated from Czechoslovakia and Poland after world war 2 against their wish, real countries will do anything to protect their soveriegnity, you Arabs have enjoyed your era 1000 years ago and displaced many indeginous people from their homelands during your jihad conquests 1000 years ago now it's Israel turn,this life na turn by turn.

Name one indigenous people that were displaced by an Islamic government.

underpinna:
Nigeria is building gradually and I think with baby focused steps, we shall get it right.

So far so good, the doctors have made known their plight, and I think the minister may look into their direction sooner or later.

Also, I noticed that the doctors are not striking because of equipment nor their under-staff, they are doing so because they want to earn more. While earning more is good, they should not put the life of the citizens at risk.

If a loved one looses someone, he can't get him/her back but, the strike can always be addressed. They should add wisdom in all that they do.

See gaslighting!

kettykin:
I just hope they will find the wisdom to heal, forgive and move on with life.

Forgive or repent?

Where's righteousness. Probably servicing himself before commenting his rubbish.

How many Kyaris dey this country self?

On a serious, Buhari deserves some credit for setting the ball of these refinery projects rolling. But kudos to Tinubu for not abandoning it. At least he put country over political aspirations.