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Tonim, I have never hidden my ID or name from anyone. I would say it loud and bold. That the Yorubas joinning the republic of Benin is the best for the Yorubas races. And not only that it is the best for nigeria and even the best for the north since the north is minority in Nigeria. This is best to avoid future war that may result based on fraud census figures. See the satellite pictures yourself and ask if the census figure was not fraud. |
Asked whether he could worship in Joshua’s church, Adeboye retorted,“No! Definitely not! If he wants me to come and minister in his church, we will sit down; we will discuss the issue of salvation the way I understand it, according to the scriptures. If we agree on that and he now wants me to come and preach the same message of salvation in his church, then I will go.”you people do not understand english. Pastor adeboye did not say he would preach salvation to Joshua, he said he would explain salvation to him. Look I have to be honest with you. I too do not understand what Joshua believes. I am born again most of my life. What are the man believes. Most people do not know. If Joshua ask me too to preach in his Church I would ask him the same question. You do not want to waste your time going to church you do not understand. You have to understand a man believes before you can preach it is church. I once moved to a place in canada many years ago called windsor. And in my looking for a new church I went to one close by my houses. When by the time the preacher started preaching I knew I have missed the way. It was a church where even satanism is allowed to be preached , any religion can be preached. So like most Nigeria born again christain I would say I do not know what Joshua believes. And we need to find out. Not only Pastor Adeboye is asking that question but everybody. So what I feel T B Joshua should do , if he believe in Jesus , He should tell the all world what does he believe. And may be people would start understanding him and his church. Look if you look T B Joshua most Nigeria are curious about this man. And when he started nobody knows anything about him. And many question may be ask. I am a every curious person I have taken the pain to watch is video once, I saw miracle. But his preaching I did not make sense out of it. May be because he just started those days. I cant judge TB Joshua because I am not God, But if he can explain himself to everybody may be people would stop asking him question. But he as not done that. And On Redeemed buy a aircraft I believe it is wrong. And what is wrong is wrong. |
It they can afford why notThat is nonsense thing to say. The redeemed should not that if the story is true. I hope and pray it is not true. The church should be more concern with helping members of thier church. Look i know that more than half of the members of the redeemed church live in a face me and face you houses. Is the church about how much they can get from people or about worshiping God and serving the people. Where is Jesus in all this , where. Greed and the love of money have taken over nigeria churches and their love for God have wax cool. may God help us. I just hope the story is true. And this is the problem with Nigeria in general. The church and govt need to get it act together. What does the bible says about thing like this. The bible is against it. We are a nation were poverty is high. Why would a pastor need a aircraft. Why? We have lost as a nation and the God of this world money have taken our lifes. We know worship material thing that would fade. May God help Nigeria. So they turn my father house into a house of business. I weep for my country. Lies sell and the truth is hated. Musiwa |
Tribal polics never cost awolowo an election. It is election rigging that cause awolowo election. Awo won the 1979 election and the 1983 election. if you look at the satellite pictures of nigeria. there is no way shagari won. And Awo won on both election. An election rigging is also the reason why the igbos would never be president of nigeria and not tribal politics. People should get it into your head. Prof Pat utomi would be sitting in Aso rock , if the ohaneze were not playing the osu card. Pat utomi had the media, and that was all he need to win. And if you remove rigging it is possible for an igboman to win an election that depend on how many yoruba vote the person can get. and not the number of northerner vote you need. Awo was more accepted in the middle belt and sout south region than zik or shagari. and awo won the south south and middle belt state but was rigged out of it. I know that Awo won bendle, rivers, benue, kwara , ondo, oyo, ogun, lagos 8 state really. zik won 4 state plateau, imo anambra, cross river. waziri won 2 state gongola, borno. shagari won 5 state niger, sokoto, kaduna, kano, bauchi |
if you people are saying fashola is doing well.why not start a poll and see if Fashola would beat Yar adua in 2011. This is the way to go. Find out how well fashola would do in the presidential races. Someone do a poll. |
Let leave God to judge everyman. Yes we have fraud pastor among us, apart from the one we caugh with 419. Noman knows anyman heart. Make una leave them, God go judge everyman. And miracle does not mean a person is of God. Look I have seen juju work before. With my own eyes. Who told you juju does not work is a lier. And A pastor does not have to know how to have good english as prove he is a man of God. Leave pastor adeboye and TB joshua alone and let God judge them. Look I use to be a member of a church and some people believe I most be fraud because they world is looking for something to point at. Let let God Judge everyman. I am a sinner , I am the worst of sinner save by grace of God. No man is perfect, any man that tell you he is is 419. we all make mistake. |
Chief Obafemi Awolowo was a Diasporas too. It is on record that the non Diasporas have stole more than Diasporas. We have ngozi Iwela who came to pay your debt. Bola ahmed Tinubu was here too. We have made more contribution to Nigeria , positive than you think. We can transform Nigeria with our dual experience. I know this the own of this site is pro fashola. look I have nothing against fashola. My saying that fashola should take care of the poor he has displace and thier lifes destroy is what bring this on us. You can not enrich the rich and detroy the poor. God is against it. I do not have to agree with fashola all the time. In leadership fashola have to know that, that I am allow to critic him. And it does not mean I hate him. And I know go lie, If I am either SSG or governor. I would do my best to make the life of the poor better, this is what I have done in the redeemed church and would do in govt. Diasporas can help lagos transform its economy. even fashola should be open to it. And yar adua too. There is no better person that can tell the story to fashola, than my hero chief Obafemi awolowo. read his article. Economic Well-Being Of The Individual Written by Obafemi Awolowo Saturday, 07 March 2009 Economic Well-Being of the Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by Chief Obafemi Awolowo Full text of the Lecture on 'The Economic Well-being of the Individual delivered by Chief Obafemi Awolowo at the Christ Church Cathedral, Lagos on Sunday, 8th February, 1970, at 10.30 a.m. under the auspices of the Christian Laity of Nigeria. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The seeds of peace must be sown and nurtured in the minds of men" I feel highly honoured by the Christian Laity of Nigeria for inviting me to give this lecture on THE ECONOMIC WELL-BEING OF THE INDIVIDUAL. It is the first in the series of talks, arranged for the next six months, under the general theme of THE FORCES OF PEACE, RECONSTRUCTION, AND RECONCILIATION. It is significant that when this programme was arranged by the Christian Laity in December or earlier, and an invitation was extended to me by their letter dated 24 December 1969, we were still in the poignant throes of civil hostilities. Today, by the grace of God, we have put the civil war behind us, and Nigeria now stands, hopefully and expectantly, on the threshold of a great and glorious future. The search for and the mobilisation of the forces of peace, reconstruction, and reconciliation have begun in real earnest. I have no doubt that we will succeed. But I hasten to emphasise that we will succeed, only if, from now on, we make the well-being of every Nigerian citizen, however humble and from whichever part of the Federation he hails, the cornerstone of all our individual and collective efforts. In dealing with the subject of this lecture under the general theme, it is, I think, essential that we should seek to understand what peace, reconstruction, reconciliation, and economic well-being connote; how economic well being can be achieved, and in what way it can contribute to the objectives of peace, reconstruction, and reconciliation. I say this because, unless we have as clear a definition and description as possible of the objects of our desire before we set out in search of them; our efforts might be misguided and purposeless. In such circumstance, the chances are great that we might not recognise the objects of our pursuit when we see them, and might end up with securing the wrong things - mistaking lead for gold. It is important to bear in mind that peace is not just an absence or cessation of hostilities, or a natural and automatic aftermath of military victory. If it were, it would be superfluous for us to talk about winning the peace after the end of the civil war. But all of us are only to well aware that the battle for peace has only just begun. Peace is, therefore, not just a negative state which notionally and automatically exists when strife or hostility ceases. No, this is not peace. On the contrary, peace is a positive state of quiet and tranquility. In the context of Nigeria, it is a state of inter-state, inter-ethnic, and inter-tribal harmony and equilibrium. Thus defined, it is a state which requires the positive, conscious, and dynamic efforts of Nigerian leaders to bring it into being and sustain it. It involves the active, conscientious, and persistent promotion and maintenance of economic prosperity and social justice, in such a manner as to convince and assure the average Nigerian citizen of their permanent enjoyment. Like those of war, the seeds of peace must be sown and nurtured in the minds of men. As long as there are serious doubts in the minds of Nigerian citizens as to the availability and permanence of economic prosperity and social justice, so long they will be disposed to civil war, or to its next of kin - civil strife or communal rioting. Before and since the end of the civil war, we have heard a good deal about physical reconstruction, with particular and almost exclusive reference to the reconstruction of roads, bridges, airports, buildings, market-places and other such-like material and concrete objects which were damaged during the war. I know, and I want to assure you, that all the Governments of the Federation are already busy making gargantuan preparations to the end that every trace, however slight, of the extensive physical damage done during the war shall be totally erased within the next year or two. But, if the rebuilding of roads, bridges, etc. were all that needed to be done, then the task of reconstruction would be an exceedingly easy proposition. For, Nigeria has the requisite material and financial, as well as the human resources to tackle these jobs effectively and expeditiously. In addition, it has a large circle of friendly countries which are prepared to come to its aid as and when required. But before we have travelled far on the road of material reconstruction, we must realise, and do so vividly and truthfully, that the most crucial areas of reconstruction are the minds of Nigerian citizens on both sides of the fighting line. In other words, in addition to material reconstruction, there is an urgent and massive need for moral and spiritual reconstruction as well: the kind of reconstruction which will help to demolish morbid desire for naked power and domination; abuse and misuse of power and office; greed, selfishness, and intolerance; nepotism, favouritism, jobbery, bribery, and other forms ofcorruption; and erect, in their places, probity, tolerance, altruism, and devotion; equality of treatment, justice, equity, and fair play for all. |
Why are you people making this to look like big deal. It as nothing to do with T B Joshua. If you know pastor adeboye he does not worship in any other church other then the redeemed church. I know this more than 15 years now, what is the big deal. He may go to your church to preach that all he does. Even Pastor adeboy has too many redeemed to go to, not to talk of going to other church. Asked whether he could worship in Joshua’s church, Adeboye retorted,“No! Definitely not! If he wants me to come and minister in his church, we will sit down; we will discuss the issue of salvation the way I understand it, according to the scriptures. If we agree on that and he now wants me to come and preach the same message of salvation in his church, then I will go.”you people do not understand english. Pastor adeboye did not say he would preach salvation to Joshua, he said he would explain salvation to him. Look I have to be honest with you. I too do not understand what Joshua believes. I am born again most of my life. What are the man believes. Most people do not know. If Joshua ask me too to preach in his Church I would ask him the same question. You do not want to waste your time going to church you do not understand. You have to understand a man believes before you can preach it is church. I once moved to a place in canada many years ago called windsor. And in my looking for a new church I went to one close by my house. When by the time the preacher started preaching I knew I have missed the way. It was a church where even satanism is allowed to be preached , any religion can be preached. So like most Nigeria born again christain I would say I do not know what Joshua believes. And we need to find out. Not only Pastor Adeboye is asking that question but everybody. So what I feel T B Joshua should do , if he believe in Jesus , He should tell the all world what does he believe. And may be people would start understanding him and his church. Look if you look T B Joshua most Nigeria are curious about this man. And when he started nobody knows anything about him. And many question may be ask. I am a very curious person I have taken the pain to watch is video once, I saw miracle. But his preaching I did not make sense out of it. May be because he just started those days. I cant judge TB Joshua because I am not God, But if he can explain himself to everybody may be people would stop asking him question. But he as not done that. And On Redeemed buy a aircraft I believe it is wrong. And what is wrong is wrong. For President of the PFN, Rev. Ayo Oritsejafor of the Word of Life Church, before Joshua could even qualify to be a PFN member, he should show who tutored him as a pastor in the first place. Joshua is reputed to have said that he was converted in his mother’s womb.Enitan here is where the issue is. it is said that Joshua claim that God convert him in the womb. Is that . DID Joshua made the statement. Noone can be born again in the womb. I know the person who preach to me and i became save. i can tell you the name of the person.look I can prove what my christain history is. I can even tell you to verify. My vice principal in secondary school was the wife of one of the men that sign on the nigeria currency those day. director of currency central bank of nigeria. I do not want to tell you her name. She would confirm if i was born again. Everybody i went to secondary school would tell you i was born again, because i was a member of the christain fellowship. I use to preach in my secondary school. If the deeper life go thru thier old record they would find my name as one of those young boys that you to come to gbagada to do leadership trainning program. If the university of ilorin christain union go thru there record they would see my picture and name on the graduate student of the year of the university of ilorin christain union. I dont know what they call it. The UCU many years ago on the permanent site of the biulding is located not too far from the stadium and close to the catholic church on campus. If you check the record of the nigeria christain corper fellowship in adamawa my name would be there. Any NCCF member who served in adamawa who tell you who brother meekness is . Brother meekness is not a person. any person who were members of the NCCF in adamawa state would tell you who brother meekness is. that is our password. If you go to the old record of the Redeemed christain church of God, freedom hall, when tony rapu was pastor, you would find my name there. if you go to the old record of redeemed bethel house of worship you would find my name there. If you talk of canada many year ago of the redeemed, most of them are new, so they may not know me. . i mean when redeemed had one church. nearly all have relocated to the USA or back to nigeria. If ask pastor James fadele the head of the redeemed in north america or his assistance pastor C Ojo . he would say, tell you he have seen this radical vocal person. If you do a check on the internet, you would see that JesusEmpire.com is registered to my name. This is what they are asking Joshua to provide for them. does he have one Enitan. A pastor most have history, do you expect them to register people who also would call themself 419 with no history. let Joshua provide them. But saying that in his mother womb he became saved . that is if he said so. can not be true. A pastor most have an open life. it is only when you are hidden something , you hide information. They just want prove he went to church before he claim he is a pastor. Any 419 can apply. And thier are more 419 pastor in churches than real one now. You can see i am alway bold tell people on the internet my mind without fear of even SSS. because i have nothing to hide. so tell them come open to . Tell tell us about joshua history i want to know my brother, And the church can not be tax. even over here too. |
laugh we are nigerian too and we have the same right like. so why cant we be in politics. and superpep, the pictures shows that most places in imo state are linear settlement. |
i did my service year in adamawa. and it was ok. that when nigeria was good o. not so much killing like now. |
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compare this with 1 akure of about 6 or 7 in akure picture. And you now claim that Jigawa is more populated than ondo state. So let save 15 million lifes.
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For you to understand what i am saying and why i have been saying this thing about satellite picture. I have 3 picture . one from towns in jigawa state and the other from akure ondo state both with the same scale. you would discovered i now divided jigawa into segment. you would discovered. that the picture of akure is about 7 pages, but this one i am showing is just one picture of the 6 or 7. and if you compare to jigwa towns. in this picture only. you need 400 of this jigawa town to make up this akure picture. so if you find out how many of the jigawa town in akure, if i divided them this way, you need about 2400 to 2800 average jigawa towns but on the satellite picture , you have less than 800. This is just akure in ondo state. so image. This same same of towns are in kano or katsina state. so you would see the south is far more than the north. Will the north want to remain minority, from knowing the north, they would rather kill everybody than remain minority. And we would have war. So that why the solution to have the yoruba, bayelsa and bendle into benin republic is the best, and the only option, please compare the picture with the others from imo state i gave you.
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noone is saying so. but no all of us are bad, i came young, so i did not have the sell sell nigeria brain. |
I do not fall into that class of nigerian. i do not have a criminal record. I am the good Diasporas . the one that believe he can change people lives to get better. |
Let look at the advantage too for the USA. A stable nigeria is good for the USA. Even michella obama is gullah. And gullah are yorubas. We all know those who worships and claim thier fathers worship orisa most be yoruba. So michelle obama is yorubas. There is no difference between my child and michelle obama, both can not speak yoruba but have yoruba root. The world economy depend on this. And depend on nigeria at the moment. Why do i says so. you see the world economy depend on the USA. And the USA need obama to move the economy. How can obama move the economy, it is only when the USA can sell thier product. China have a hold on africa economy. The USA need the economy. What is the solution. The solution is 20% of the population of the world come from china, they would not buy from america, 20% of the world come from india, the india people produce too. they do not need to buy the USA product. 20% of the world population come from europe, they do not need to buy USA product. USA and america have saturated thier economy with product. they all have everything. They need africa , which have the other 20%. china controls africa. How can obama take africa economy. any one who knows africa, will tell you. south africa can not help the USA so much. but nigeria can. but not with instable. we you agree to the nigeria benin . we create a stable country. how can you USA gain from this. the USA is closer to africa or nigeria than china. the USA product would be cheaper for nigerian than china product. but we need a stable nigeria benin. we need 2 stable country. |
trust me on this. i am born into politics from the days of chief obafemi awolowo UPN. I use to distribute Awolowo poster as a child and get out to vote, my own father is an Awoist. My grand father use to do background work for the Action group. I am a third generation Awoist. I know nigeria politics like the back of my hand. |
you have to tell your oga, no be that way they do thing aboard. if you cant tell him so, dont join his govt. why are you there in the first place. are you there become you want be boyboy or you want to serve. the president or governor is not always right. An good leader would listen to you, if you are making sense. look most idea people claim is awo, were by others working for him. if a leader is humble, you get from others. And they make you look good, very good. even when you no know anything my brother. who would know that it is not your idea. who? it is a team. and not governor is God. The president or governor most believe he is part of a team. |
I do not have to been in nigeria to get appointed. I can live in canada and still get appointed to join the govt. All you would do is relocate back to nigeria. And they collect 20 million naira. so tell me if that is what state get, what do those in federal get. i want to know what the governor or senator get?. I believe the the yorubas to join the republic of benin. And i say what i say for the best of nigeria, i do not want to see 15 million people die for nothing. i have seen the satellite pictures of nigeria, when i say the north is a minority I am saying it of a sincere heart and not because i hate the north. I love them. Look if i am a greed person, i would support yar adua and pretend i did not see the satellite picture. I know some powerful in side the president kitchen cabinet, and they would tell you, i could have become rich if i was going for the position or money. I got to know some of them, all i need to do was just support or go back to nigeria, look my brother i am made for the rest of my life. i know so, I know they were not telling me a lie. I know what thier position under this govt can bring me. There are northerner. I tell you i would be in Yar adua govt one way or the other, if i sell my heart. I want all the best things of life but not to the selling of my soul and at the cause of other people lifes. Look people in the presidency knows i am not after money. They would tell you that themself. But i have to drop my greed and ask myself, will God not judge me to over look the right thing just for money i could make by doing it. Look when i say the south is more than the north in population, i mean so. And this would create probelm in future. that why i have ask for the yorubas and bendle and bayelsa to be in benin republic so that we avoid war in future. and save 15 million lifes. I like money too, but i would not be able to sleep if i dont do the right thing. money can buy a bed but cant buy sleep. i know nigeria very well and it would end up in a war. Northern military officer who would discovery that they are minority may end the democratic process and kill all politician to save the north from disgrace. look, i am just going to share some picture that i held back to show some other place in the south. and compare to the one in the north, i have been shown. I have said the south west is at least 3 times far more than the south east, but let look at even the south east i claim is smaller than the south west, and you compare to the south east to the north. you would see tha north is in trouble and they need to join in removing of the yorubas and bayelsa bendle to benin as quick as possible. This is imo states. even when imo have what we called scatter settlement, you can not compare them with the north. So you see the north are really minority and the south would make sure they wait for 50 years too before they can get to power, that what i am trying to avoid t, to save 15 millions lifes. I said if the yorubas area join benin, benin could be part of a Nigeria benin with same currency and 2 govt and central govt. And why do i critic the govt, because this is the way to get the govt better. If i critic fashola, fashola would correct what i said and fashola govt would get better and better, I also do the same to yar adua , look they can only better when i do that. look this is the way it is done in USA and other country and that why they are doing well. Dont think i hate fashola or yar adua, i do not hate anyone, i dont hate northerner or igbos or anyone. I just like to say and do the right thing before God. Diasporas should be in politics and they should go home and join politics, this is the way to get nigeria better. if you think , you have seen your father farm and it is the biggest in the world. What do you think those of us, who have lived in bigger farm can do help you develop. more than what you would think. I can give fashola more than 100 ideas that he as never dream off because i have seen and lived in one of the biggest farm in the world. Diasporas have dual experience. And dual experience makes better society. I can double the revenue of lagos or ondo or federal in 3 month by ideas i got living in one of the biggest farm in the world. And i can give your governor a run for thier money, if i am allow to debate with them on live television in a run to the state house. i can become the governor or senator. i know i can, the word of God says allthing are possible for him that believes. Do i want to join fashola or mimiko or yar adua govt, or if i am going to run for governor or senate, it is not for me to say, it is for God to decide.
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the state govt should also help ikoyi people relocate to a new site. |
The main reason, you have the yoruba vote in repulic of benin is to allow the north become a majority. and all business fear too is protected. |
The best way to get nigerian in the Diasporas is to offer them position to serve in govt or govt board . So dont be shock if they will return home too. we want see yoruland develop. |
mowire, the people of ikoyi are blocking the progress of lagos. i believe you did not read my posting. I notice you hate me. sorry i cant help you. I am a student of the great chief obafemi awolowo. And i would tell you this, i watch the video, but i could not pick out anything from it. it did not show what fashola have done. i do not think buying 200 buses is great. I have google and i discovered that nearly every governor in nigeria did the samething. You can not separate fashola from tinubu 8 years of govt because fashola was the engine room of tinubu government. so we are saying as secretary to the state govt fashola was running lagos. And have been in charge for 10 years. Look i can not hold the same position fashola had the advantage to hold without transforming lagos. I would believe my problem is that i lived abroad for too long to see what lagos can become. if i am SSG and governor. Lagos would be transfer and i would do better than fashola. If I am fashola SSG do you think i would run away from his past No. Tinubu govt is fashola. and it was 10 years. SSG controls the govt. plan and develop. If you can not plan and develop, you should not be SSG. let me help fashola here. Fashola should rezone ikoyi to a business district. In the rezonning of ikoyi, the law should force all building to not be less than a 5 level. I would tell fashola this. everybody in ikoyi can build a 5 level house . And average price of ikoyi house is above N60 million. [$500,000], And VGC is about the same. In nigeria most people who buy this homes pay cash. it is not borrowed money. And people in ikoyi can build 5 level houses. and because it is too close to victoria island. with noise and all that, this rich people would be force to move someday. why not make them to move now. If you rezone ikoyi. the value of this rich people home who jump up and to about $1.5 million. which they may decide to sell or do otherwise. I can tell you , ikoyi would be force to be a business district in future, why not do it now. And if you do this you would increase job in the construction industry and get about 20% of the economy moving. This would create a chain reaction and affect the life of 15 to 20 % of the people of lagos. 2. If you do this. it would also create another develop area in lagos where they would relocate to. 3 If you do this, if you look at the satellite pictures of lagos, you would see that, it would be possible to build a bridge from the Ikorodu to ikoyi. The length of the bridge is about 10.34 km. It would reduce traffic in the island. 4 This bridge would decongest lagos, because it would make the ikorodu area develop. And it would take about 12 minute to get to the island from ikorodu. So the people of ikoyi are blocking the progress of lagos. And thier properties too need to go, in the new redesign of Lagos. And you would want to force the rich out of that area. to make it business district because they have the money to develop. all fashola needs to do is just watch them. you would not believe your eyes. business district, are you serious, should it be at the cost of the poor, why dont fashola go to ikoyi and pull it down, ? look ikoyi is the best place to build a business district. because the people of ikoyi can affort to build new houses. this poor people can not affort to do the same.
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. DID Joshua made the statement. Noone can be born again in the womb. I know the person who preach to me and i became save. i can tell you the name of the person.