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Touching speech, though I didn't read it.

One of mine is a social security bank, while another is a microfinance bank

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So true

Immediately I saw this, I knew it was front page material, so I did the needful and to God be the glory, here I am as the FTC!
For those aspiring to be in my position, well keep on trying, Praying, subscribing for data and commenting, one day you'll reach where I am now.

As for the topic, I agree with the OP though not in all of them

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Daluuzor: I am one of the lucky ones to get a well tailored CV frm the Op, and I remain grateful as it's paving the way for me already, getting loads of invite.
Thanks bro, U r indeed a God sent.

can you please forward a sample of the email(with your details changed) to dappabenjamin@yahoo.com? to help a brother that is really of it. God bless you

What are the handles to follow on Twitter and Instagram. For the live updates?

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Followed the proceedings closely and found d out that he was probably coerced or coaxed into betraying his colleagues. Good riddance to him

Ifeanyi266: Most guys today don't know which body type they have!!....Mine is 1!! what's yours!

Mine is definitely 5...

Morotov1: Lots of doctors on naira land strike or no strike ever present to defend, attack etc.
You lot should be busy in your private establishment taking care of the full throes of patients coming in.

We should leave now so you will continue spreading your falsehoods unchallenged... Nah

abuchilag: Why are these doctors playing with the lives of innocent Nigerians......they took an oath abi oaths to sanctity of live....why are they the ones killing those that they are paid to take care of ? These guys(the selfish ones among them) are killers in robes.
The FG should disband that useless and power drunk society. It is obvious that they make more money during strikes as they direct patients to their clinics.
God will save Nigeria.

Ahhh, do you even know what the hippocratic oath is all about? Please just go and see the 'consultant nurses' et al and let us be.

smartchoice: Another medical doctors (or medical murderers) weeping thread!

It's either the likes of you are the ones propagating the falsehoods in the health sector or you are a 'Joe hates us-ite'. Anyway, you can't stop the truth fěom coming out, no matter how many times you say the quoted!

infolekan: The issue is......JOHESU as a body shouldn't even be talking of fighting for any reason.
Let each union come forward and press for their needs. The needs of a Pharmacists can't be the same with that of a Radiographer or they are saying that they will come out later after this fight to start making another request again

That's one of the reasons NMA aptly used the phrase "palpably imminent anarchy" in the health sector, cos ones the reasons for their agitations are granted, each constituent of the amorphous body will now start seeking their own interests.

FRONT PAGES PLEASE!

Please Sir NMA needs people like you to educate the public on the real issues in the health sector!
I recommend Chief, that this lovely piece of genius writeup be published in the national dailies... It will go a real long way!

armadeo: funny enough every JOHESU strike i have experienced involved locking of doors and equipment. so i concur.

No be only you my brother! Every single time, and not just to lock doors and reagents but also to take the keys home, and then come the next day to make sure the doors has not been broken down.

Apitch: @Phantom, it's a lie! Johesu can't and has no right to switch off power supply. Please stop feeding people with lies. The Doctors are just being too irrational, they are notjust fighting for themselves but against others*nd my question is "WHY"

He's not lying... It happened where I'm training, NAUTH. So get your facts right before saying someone else is lying!

Tbamo: Let me state that all health workers are important!!

But let's also state that importance is relative!
And their are always levels of importance !
So for ease of understanding I'm going to run parallels


Highest. Middle. Lowest
Doctor. Nurse Radiographer
Soldier. Civil defense. Boys scout
lawyer. Court clerk Paralegal
Professor. Teaching assistant. Lab technologist
Husband and wife. Children. House girl

Now all are important but responsibilities vary! For these responsibilities to be carried out there are specific requirements.
If you meet these requirements you can choose to take such. But if not , you have no business trying

Now lets give unto ceaser what is due ceaser!

This is so on point!
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stine b: I am trying to fanthom if you are a medical officer or House officer maybe even a 2nd MB drop out. For a start,I want to introduce my self as a proud Medical Imaging Specialist A.K.A Radiographer I wish to inform you that as far as my practice of Radiography is concerned,We have trained Radiographers who report Tomograms(CT scan Images, MRI Images, Mamograms and Radiographs(Not picture as you call it). I have worked in Australia,UAE and Grenada before returning home to set up my private diagnostic centre where we run X-ray, Ultrasound,ECGand Laboratory Test. We didn't engage any Doctor in our practice because there are not needed. We have been precise and succesful with our test procedures without any complain from anywhere. It will suffice you to note that I take the X-ray exposure and report the Radiographs afterward with my name and Qualifications written and stamed there in. Same thing goes for general and specialised Ultrasound scan procedures(You can see that I have no need for a RADIOLOGIST,who after graduating from Medical school,decides to come and idle in my field of Radiography because of Lack of Job)
Furthermore, I employed a Medical Laboratory Scientist to oversee our Laboratory and he is very copetent in that line without the involvement of any socalled Pathologist. There is a pharmacy outfit beside us where we Reffer patients to buy their medications if need be, especially in Swab M/C/S etc.The good news is that patients get well after diagnosis and take prescribed medications from the pharmacist. We only refer a case that is worth Refferable to selected Hospitals that understand what Team work or division of labor means so that they can also do the needful. For your information Student Dr. Phantom,Nigerians are getting more exposed to know that you musnt go to the Hospital and see a Doctor to be well. 70% of our patients walk into our diagnostic outfit to give their complains.From our vast clinical knowledge based on experience and reading, we clerk them and carry out investigations where needed and where were see an issue we refer them to pharmacy for drugs or to a Hospital for care.
All the points you have been raising in this thread are only applicable in Government Health Institutions where you have your peers as Directors hence JOHESU petition and outcry to put an end to this anomaly.Government researched and constructively reasoned with JOHESU by accepting to implement our plea and a certain unrecognized Association in Nigeria Trade Unionism called NMA is striking against another mans career progression. All this anomalies in the health sector is what made me to reject an appointment from OAU Teaching Hospital Ife, after my Internship because I didn't want to be restrained from progressing in my career. I never regretted my decision to turn down the offer, because I have made so much money both abroad and in my private practice in Nigeria, A thing that I can only dream of probably after Retiring from the current Healthcare Institutions if I had taken their offer. Infact we need a change in this Rotten sector Instigated by a group of practitioners(NMA) that has little knowledge in Management.
In summary, I heard you said Doctors can do other professional duties. With all sense of seriousness I disagree with you. The day I catch any socalled Doctor Touching an X-ray,CT,Mammo,MRI or even an ultrasound machine,talkless of operating them, I'll so sue them using Decree No. 42 of Federation an act that empowers only Radiographers to run diagosis with those modalities.
Infact Dr. Phantom or whatever you call yourself, I openly challenge you on Clinicals let's see who knows it better.
Go to College of Medical Science University of Calabar and hear how student Radiographers beat Medical students in a quiz organised by the College provost for Anatomy courses (Neuro, Embryology,Gross,Histology etc)
Most of us chosed Radiography as First and 2nd Choice during our Jamb, because we wanted to be Radiographers(Eyes or Oracle of Medicine) Can you beat that? Cheers bro.

Concerning the bolded... Double speak in all its glory

theexpected: U begining to see reaosn with NMA ba? Why is JOHESU fighting to be CHIEF MEDICAL DiIRECTOR when they can be DIRECTOR of ADMINISTRATION?


Y leave their CHIEF NURSING OFFICER post to fight for someone else's

The thing is, doctors are busy, if not for the strike, i asure u no doctor would be on nairaland trading blames. These JOHESU guys do shifts, doctors do not

A nurse would do morning shift and go home a house officer will be in the hospital from morning till night running helter skelter doing d jobs of messengers and nurses because they are no where to be found and ur OGA CONSULTANT does not want to hear story.

The bolded is the reason why we are now enlightening the public. If not for this strike, the doctors would still continue doing their jobs while the shift workers after their shift would continue spreading the misinformation.

phantomm: trust them to avoid this thread like a plague even though its a research done in one of the countries they want us to copy from.

The truth it's said is bitter, why wont they avoid it... I just wish this should make front page instead of all the misinformation going on

Would hospitals have fared better over the last 30 years if doctors were in charge? New research suggests they may have done.
by David Brindle.
Almost 30 years ago, what was then the biggest change to the health service since 1948 was ushered in by a report that noted: "If Florence Nightingale were carrying her lamp through the corridors of the NHS today, she would almost certainly be searching for the people in charge."

That report, by Sir Roy Griffiths, led to the introduction of general management of hospitals in place of decision-making by consensus and organisation by administrators. It was not a template for getting rid of leadership by doctors – Griffiths said they should become more involved in running budgets – but in practice few were appointed to the new general manager posts. The men (and a few women) in suits took over.

There is today little challenge to the thrust of what Griffiths recommended. But the failure to engage doctors in management is lamented widely. And a new study raises the thought that hospitals might have fared better over the past three decades if more doctors had been encouraged to seek, and been selected for, chief executive roles.

The research has been carried out by Amanda Goodall, a visiting fellow at Cass Business School in London, who has found a clear correlation between high-performing hospitals and leadership by doctors. Her study is based on US hospitals, but she sees no reason why similar results would not be found in the UK. Surprisingly, she says it is the first analysis of its kind.

Goodall took the top 100 hospitals in each of three specialties – cancer, digestive disorders and cardiac care and surgery – as ranked by the respected US News and World Report league tables for 2009. She then researched the backgrounds of their chief executives. Of the top 100 cancer hospitals, 51 had chief executives who were qualified doctors; of the top 100 units for digestive disorders, 34 had medical chief executives; of the top 100 cardiac centres, it was 37.


The remarkable thing about these figures is that, according to other research, there are some 6,500 hospitals in the US and only 235 are led by doctors. So the high-performing doctor-leaders identified by Goodall come from a very small pool indeed.

Her study, to be published in the US journal Social Science and Medicine, further established that doctor-led hospitals had quality scores some 25% higher than other units. And when she stripped out of her analysis of the three lists of top 100-performing hospitals those that featured two or three times (52 in total) she found that the correlation still held strong for the remaining 160 units that featured only once.

Goodall, whose principal post is that of senior research fellow at the IZA Institute in Bonn, Germany, says: "It seems that age-old conventions about having doctors in charge – currently an idea that is out of favour around the world – may turn out to have been right all along."

Her next step is to examine the correlation over a longer timescale.

This notion that practitioners make the best leaders is becoming familiar territory for Goodall, whose previous work suggested that many of the best universities are headed by academics. It's something that Julian Le Grand, professor of social policy at the LSE and a former senior policy adviser to Tony Blair, instinctively goes along with.

"I was always rather impressed with the quality of the doctor-managers I met in the NHS," Le Grand says. "They have that great thing that they command the respect of their colleagues, which is a fundamental problem where chief executives come in from outside."

He adds: "I'm reasonably convinced by the evidence of [Goodall's] research. I think we should be moving as fast as possible to try to encourage doctor-management, as well as academic management of our universities. "

Source : Doctors are the best hospital managers, study reveals | Society | The Guardian - http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jul/19/doctors-best-hospital-managers-new-research

vicenzo: You represent everything wrong with JOHESU. You are too emotional and greedy and lazy. You are not a medic,but you want to see yourself as an equal to medics and be treated as a medic, you want to reap where you didn't sow.


Don't you know that all fingers can never be equal? You were too impatient to wait and gain admission into an MBBS programme, you rushed into physiotherapy and now you wonder why you are not being treated like a medic.


Your case is like that of a councillor wondering why he is not treated like a Governor, why he isn't addressed as 'his excellency', why the Governor should look down on him. He and the Governor should be equal and addressed as 'his excellency' he reasoned,after all they were both democratically elected by the people,and passed through the same stress of campaigning and election.


He conveniently forgot the fact that he had the choice of picking a form for the post of the Governor, he knew the roles and powers a Governor wields over a councillor, but he still chose to be a Councillor anyway, hoping to be a Councillor,and still somehow get to be treated as the Governor. And when this doesn't happen he gets emotional, paints the Governor as a dictator who looks down on him, who doesn't want his progress.

Succint and to the point! Kudos bro

Acidosis: You are an illiterate.

A University Bursar/Accountant, Reigistrar and Librarian all belong to NASU.
They are bosses in their fields already..

Lol, like an average "literate" Nigerian who thinks NASU is all about gate keepers, carpenters etc

So why don't members of N'ASU contest for the post of VC? Going by your reasoning!

@jide olubiyi, I am surprised at the vitriol that accompanied your reply, cos why call whoever wrote the article 'illiterate' or calling the article 'disgustingly skewed'?
But before I digress let me say one or two things addressing what you said... I'm using the tertiary Healthcare system as a case study
1- About nurses being on night duty: do you know that nurses work shift duties of either morning, afternoon or night shift per day, with the hours being 8am-2pm, 2pm-7pm and 7pm-8am respectively and an equal number of days off as the consecutive night duties. So if a nurse did night duty for four days, then she is off for the next four days.
But Doctors don't do shift 1st and foremost, and whenever they are on call, ie staying throughout the day and night at the hospital for a week and sometimes months, they still come to work the very next day.

2- it seems you only see or hear whenever NMA go on strike because when JOHESU went on theirs, I don't think you made this kind of comment... They Cited so many things about what was being done for doctors and not for them. In fact almost all the reasons for their strike was doctor related... That doctors are allowed to be head of hospitals, why not them too, doctors skip a level in salary grade, why not them too, doctors are called consultants, why not them too. So many trivial things...

3- On cramming : If you would be truthful to yourself, even in your secondary school the brightest minds in science class wanted to be doctors... Vis a vis Lawyers for Art class! Medicine is a field which requires only the best minds for adequate patient care, that's why the requirements are so stringent and the training comprehensive. I wonder if putting together different symptoms and sign, accurately interpreting them for the correct diagnosis of myriad illnesses is now considered as cramming.

4- I wonder who you personally go to see whenever you have an illness, or a relative of yours comes down with a complication of an illness. I hope not a doctor!

5- I just wish this will enter front page so the public can see this instead all the misinformation being dished out to them by all the numerous paramedicals!

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