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Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by armadeo(m): 5:19pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Co-enzymeA: to the best of my knowledge a prescription is given to the patient who then goes to the pharmacy to buy the drug. The dr signs the prescription. the pharmacist however can be uncomfortable with the dosage of the medication not the medication in it self and is duty bound to seek clarification if he feels so. without recourse to insults or know it all from both parties. (dr/pharm) at bolded why do you want to be called a CONSULTANT for what you already are ( hospital based IMO), what extras are you as a pharmacist planning to do concerning patient care that deserves an upgrade to this title. ps any links to the post graduate college of pharmacy for my perusal would be appreciated. we learn everyday! |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by eph12(m): 5:20pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
armadeo:So if house officers are paid 100-150k then it shouldn't be lower as resident doctors. Pardon my ignorance here |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by theexpected: 5:21pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Také this scenario, they bring in an emergency accident victim that has lost a lot of blood. Nd requires urgent blood transfusion, resident doctor admits the patient také blood samples and calls for the porter/messenger to také to the lab...... The messenger is no where to be found, will he say he's not interested, no he wont he then sends the already tired House Officer who has been busy all day to také d samples himself to the lab to group and crossmatch blood when d house officer gets there they refuse to release blood, claiming blood has almost finished the house officer then fights tooth and nail with them to collect a pint of blood which he runs to give d other doctor note that all these thing r not he's job bt that of the messenger bt if he doesnt do it, d patient will die then the relatives would say " a doctor refused to treat their son" 6 Likes |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Ziondebade(m): 5:25pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Why are some people taking sides here. Is it because you in the guilty-ship? I wonder who told some people that it is doctors that taught medical lab personnel their job? Or that it is medical doctors that teach doctors in the university? Same lecturers teach all medical students and most of the medical students offer same courses in the university. Nurses and others are also taught by experts in their school. Please stop feeding the public with the erroneous opinion that it is doctors who teach lab technicians, radiologist, nurses, pharmacologists, pharmacists their jobs. Is it because doctors in Nigeria have for long over stepped their boundaries? Where is it in the world practiced that doctors prescribe drugs for patients? Abeg, make all those taking sides be guided ooo! |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Omonoba1: 5:27pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
armadeo:arrogant ignoramus!!! |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by theexpected: 5:27pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
During the last Nurses strike, medical students were drafted to také over the wards, they did all the nurses were supposed to do. Change bedspreads, administer drugs, carry bedpans, name it d hospital ran very well Even these lab pple u r talkin about self, most patients do not have money for the tests and they beg doctors to skip them. If a patients shows clinical signs of a disease i only confirm with a lab test not that i need it to make my diagnosis. And dt is if d patient has the money for it if not, i skip it |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by dumodust(m): 5:29pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
phantomm: they would rather die than have privatization. I want to know how pathcare is faring in luth. if privatization works,why not try it?phantomm, pathcare has taken their jobs... patients with the dough prefer to go there because of fast results. meanwhile, the tribal chiefs in the health care sector who want to be called professionals sit around and point fingers at the doctor. i apologise profusely to patients when they complain about how they are treated and that it takes weeks to get results |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by armadeo(m): 5:30pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
eph12: sorry i don't get you, pls explain. |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by armadeo(m): 5:32pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Ziondebade: Why are some people taking sides here. Is it because you in the guilty-ship? I wonder who told some people that it is doctors that taught medical lab personnel their job? Or that it is medical doctors that teach doctors in the university? Same lecturers teach all medical students and most of the medical students offer same courses in the university. Nurses and others are also taught by experts in their school. Please stop feeding the public with the erroneous opinion that it is doctors who teach lab technicians, radiologist, nurses, pharmacologists, pharmacists their jobs. Is it because doctors in Nigeria have for long over stepped their boundaries? Where is it in the world practiced that doctors prescribe drugs for patients? Abeg, make all those taking sides be guided ooo! no further statements from you should be taken seriously |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by eph12(m): 5:34pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
armadeo:How much do graduate doctor earn during housemanship? |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Ziondebade(m): 5:40pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
@armadeo, the truth is bitter. It is only in your country that doctors think its their sole rite to administer prescription, while pharmacists are unimportant to them. |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by dumodust(m): 5:48pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Ziondebade: @armadeo, the truth is bitter. It is only in your country that doctors think its their sole rite to administer prescription, while pharmacists are unimportant to them.i dont know where you got this impression ... do you work as a pharmacist? we physicians prescribe drugs, pharmacists review, verify, discuss with physician if any confusion, compound, check for errors, quality control... dispense, they are professionals and are highly respected unlike some undergraduate quacks on this page forming that they know much. many work in pharmaceutical companies too, some produce lotions and methylated spirit used in some hospitals... and many are my good friends. what i dont get is what else do they want? 2 Likes |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by armadeo(m): 5:53pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Omonoba1: arrogant ignoramus!!! as i said before you are already intimidated,so you result to insults. we are not and can never be on the same page. |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Omonoba1: 5:55pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
armadeo:henceforth, you are ignored!! you can Go n ... 1 Like |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by armadeo(m): 5:59pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Ziondebade: @armadeo, the truth is bitter. It is only in your country that doctors think its their sole rite to administer prescription, while pharmacists are unimportant to them. well in my country drs know what they where trained to do, You as a pharmacist ( am guessing ), wherever you are practicing are you telling me that you can just give every drug without a prescription. i can understand panadol and antimalarial ( in the Nigerian setting) but high dose steroids , chemo agents aren't just given over the counter. correct me if I am wrong. |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by armadeo(m): 6:03pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Omonoba1: henceforth, you are ignored!! you can Go n ... i could you know. A bus could knock me down, i could be struck by lightening many things could happen. as i could happen to me so could it to you but when the grim reaper comes calling who do you run to in attempts to keep him at bay? Fraud like you. medical student my foot. as i said before you are already intimidated, that's your problem not mine. 1 Like |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Ziondebade(m): 6:04pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
@Omonoba1, you are right jare. Some people are so baised in thier analysis. i wonder if there why they come here to argue blindly and insult people.Please ignore them |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by armadeo(m): 6:05pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
eph12: Lol, how much do you earn? . There is a salary structure or is that what this is all about?. how much does an engineer with shell earn, or a bus driver with chisco motors, or a local govt "chaman" HO's earn what the laws of demand and supply give to them. 1 Like |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by benjichuks(m): 6:16pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
theexpected: The bolded is the reason why we are now enlightening the public. If not for this strike, the doctors would still continue doing their jobs while the shift workers after their shift would continue spreading the misinformation. 2 Likes |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 6:23pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
theexpected: During the last Nurses strike, medical students were drafted to také over the wards, they did all the nurses were supposed to do.you my friend would have been in jail and your licence permanently revoked by now if ours was a sane society,you know it! 2 Likes |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by armadeo(m): 6:29pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Joenz: you my friend would have been in jail and your licence permanently revoked by now if ours was a sane society,you know it! as would you. |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 6:31pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
[quote author=armadeo] as would you.[/quote)And you are? |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by vicenzo(m): 6:34pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
bumfem: I find it hard to see any relation between my reply to the guy and this your silly post. The importance and relevance of Physiotherapy was never my interest,as that cannot be questioned. My post laid more emphasis on a physiotherapist remaining and functioning as a physiotherapist and not seeking to be seen and treated as a Doctor, as that can only lead to confusion. 1 Like |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by theexpected: 6:36pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Joenz: you my friend would have been in jail and your licence permanently revoked by now if ours was a sane society,you know it! u r so funny, kai being in jail, for what if i may ask, na wa ooh u r one of those pple that threaten everybody they have a disagreement with jail time, being in jail for saying medical students wre drafted to fill in for nurses when they went on strike...... U r tempting me but i refuse to yield to the use of insultive terms |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by eph12(m): 6:45pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
armadeo:I thought the issue on ground is salary. Ok I can see its about preventing others from being consultants. 1 Like |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by skippo(m): 6:49pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Johesu is soooooo pathetic! most of them are medical school drop outs.if they were the doctors,would they agree to other health professionals being CMDs? It will never happen! we will strike till it is reversed,let them take patients into the consulting rooms and theatres and diagnose and operate...I laugh.if they go on strike,let them watch us do laboratory invxs and dispense drugs. 1 Like |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by obeski13(m): 6:51pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
[quote author=humnsik [/quote]GOD BLESS U WITH UR WONDERFUL WRITE UP.U spoke my mind.our problem in nigeria is greed.i recalled when ASUU WENT ON STRIKE with their ridiculous demand, i posted then on nairaland that if their demand are met,i wont be surprised if NMA comes up with their own.it is high time we nigerians stop being taking for a ride by very corruptible and inefficient professional bodies.d rot in our hospitals and tertiary institutions is caused majorly by very corrupt personnels rather than goverment wc they often blame in other to cover up their lapses and inefficiencies |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by theexpected: 7:01pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
When a pretend doctor does an abortion for u and overscrapes ur womb, of course u r happy that u paid less, plus baby is gone.....then fast forward 10 yrs later and infertility sets in, u then go to d consultant gynaecologist expecting him to perform wonders, bt alas d uterine linig cant support a growing fetus due to the complications of d unsafe abortion...... D quack has long gone u cant trace him......... Support their growth well ooh pls do 4 Likes |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by theexpected: 7:06pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
skippo: Johesu is soooooo pathetic! most of them are medical school drop outs.if they were the doctors,would they agree to other health professionals being CMDs? It will never happen! we will strike till it is reversed,let them take patients into the consulting rooms and theatres and diagnose and operate...I laugh.if they go on strike,let them watch us do laboratory invxs and dispense drugs. U cant, nt bcuz u really cant bt because they would lock up the stores and pharmacy and také the keys home with them due to insecurity Bt when doctors strike, they leave the consulting room and theatres open for anyone who wants to use it 2 Likes |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 7:07pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
theexpected:Who cares abt wat some over-zealous brain-washed MB.BS students do?d issue shld b 'did d striking Nurses achieve their aim or not?'Now to y I qouted u,u feel its ethical and beneficial to treat based on some vital signs and history and u talk of qualitative healthcare delivery?Heck u dnt even try that in well-structured Nigerian clinics,my brother u won't dare!I just pity d masses @ d receiving end of dis whole imbroglio. |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by bimbor(m): 7:15pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
s!s! afrika: Now listen to your sorry arss again....did u make any sense? Repeat? We are talking about your failed state who would make you spend extra years in school as a result of incessant industrial actions. My dear I can only laugh at your ignoble standing. All we are saying is stop comparing yourselves to doctors. We are not and can never be on the same standard. If you so envy us...get a JAMB form again and go study medicine so you can see exactly how easy it is. Stop all this inferiority complexes you are displaying to the world publicly. The truth is none of you guys can operate independent of the doctor....but we can do without you ARTISANS. So get a life! 1 Like |
Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by theexpected: 7:22pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Joenz: Who cares abt wat some over-zealous brain-washed MB.BS students do?d issue shld b 'did d striking Nurses achieve their aim or not?'Now to y I qouted u,u feel its ethical and beneficial to treat based on some vital signs and history and u talk of qualitative healthcare delivery?Heck u dnt even try that in well-structured Nigerian clinics,my brother u won't dare!I just pity d masses @ d receiving end of dis whole imbroglio. U r still making me laugh, in nigeria nothing works, most patients do not have the money to do tests so therefore only basic tests are done in most instances most times medical students and doctors contribute money to pay for patient's test. Do u even come in contact with patients if u do u'd know that majority are the lower class and are nt financially bouyant Thats why as a doctor u must be well grounded to be sure enough to diagnose ur patient based on clinical findings, so that any test that can be skipped is skipped and only d neccessary ones are done For instance if i feel a patient has anaemia from my clinical finding of paleness, i také a bld sample and send to the lab if the lab report says he is normal, nd im nt satisfied i order a repeat which in most instances turn out to be different from the former report. Bt if i také d initial report and do nothing about it, and my patient runs into complications later, no one will listen to me when i give d excuse that "afterall, d lab report says he is alright" I will be sanctioned. Thats y as a doctor u would make ur diagnosis even before involving any lab 1 Like |
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