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Christianity EtcRe: God Is Testing You? What Nonsense. by bennyann: 3:57pm On Oct 01, 2017
STUPUDTHEISTS:
The boldfaced is complete nonsense by all standards. You Christians say all sorts of things - not minding how contradictory it is - to rationalize the BULLSHIT in your 'holey' book.

Now let's look at what the Bible said about Abraham test. Verse 12
"Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

From the above verse, it's so clear that Yahweh tested Abraham just to know his level of faith. If he has foreknowledge of the event - like you guys claim - he wouldn't have said "now I know"

Y'all should stop all these terrible apologetics and acknowledge the fact that Yahweh is not omniscient - even when you use the Bible as a frame of reference.
The reason why people are confused is because of the power of freewill given to us.... The fact that we confuse ourselves doesn't mean God is confused.

Anyway there's a difference between foreknowledge and knowing by experiential confirmation.

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
Hebrews 4:13
Christianity EtcRe: God Is Testing You? What Nonsense. by bennyann:
Ferisidowu:
may God help us
I don't know if the op is atheist or Christian but this is the answer (if the op have scriptural knowledge and where the words I used are in the Bible .....)


1) first, friend GOD TESTS NO MAN-
then someone will ask me "what about Abraham,Moses and others"........
now if God tests me it's obvious that he doesn't know the future ((((someone talked about free will... that we are unpredictable by God... that's false..... if we aren't predictable by God then how is he God (I speak as a fool)))) now I said God doesn't test man and I'm talking about Abraham ... God was giving Abraham a good report for his faith since faith without works is dead. now friends I want you to judge this ... if I gave you a test and at the same i gave you the answer to it have I tested you ? definitely not... so also God "tested" i used the word "tested" because of the angle we see it.. we didn't know God gave him the answer (as in grace ) but now we know ..... if God didn't give him the answer in grace then Abraham could boast but not before God and Christian who know that God gave him the grace but before unbelievers and people who don't know .... they take it as God tested Abraham..... but I know and am confident that God was giving him a good report I hope you understand ....

2) besides the Bible says that God tests no man in James 1:13 and we know that grace truth wisdom and righteousness are all in Jesus the Bible was written for the saints and those who has found favour in God
We're saying the same thing dear. God test us not because He knows nothing about us but for us to know our level of faith, it is for our own benefits. James 1:12, 1Peter 1:6-7, Job 23:10, James 1:2-4.

A test is meant for you to pass, to know your level, to improve and to promote you.
A temptation is meant for you to fail, to degrade and humiliate you.

I learnt something from your post you know..
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 12:14pm On Sep 30, 2017
analice107:
This is my best Bible passage, i so believe it and it goes with me everywhere.

Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
Isaiah:41:10

Oh, what comfort to know my father goes with me everywhere?

I love you Jesus!, I love you!!
Hmmm! Thank you sis.
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 12:12pm On Sep 30, 2017
jiggaz:
I thank God for your life my dear. That's an angel of God... This is a powerful testimony. Every believer have an angel assigned to him or her. It just that most times, we believers don't know the kind of privileges we have in Christ Jesus. This is powerful!! The Word of God is true concerning our lives. Jesus is Lord...
cheesy
Oh my brother, I'm so glad you're here. And I've come to believe it was an angel also.

You know thinking about falling on him while he held me close, it's not like he was a flat bed for any part of my flesh not to touch the tarred road. I have no bruises at all. grin

It's really a miracle but he ran away embarassed

Thank you jiggaz
Christianity EtcRe: God Is Testing You? What Nonsense. by bennyann: 11:49am On Sep 30, 2017
Daeylar:
Thanks for responding smiley
cheesy
I asked why will God make people homosexual or bisexual when he knows that he will throw such people into hell, why make anything like homosexuality or bisexuality to exist in the first place? Abi it just appeared in the mind of humans, if it just did and he could do everything like the way he caused the people building the towel of babel to speak different languages, why not just erase everything thing about homosexuality from the minds of humans, why all the needless tests to see if they will repent or not? Why the stress? But God doesn't want anyone to test him back, It doesn't really make sense to me

For the rest of your statement, That's your personal belief even when there are many homosexuals that say they cannot be with someone of the opposite sex yet you choose to disregard them, I actually cannot choose to be with lesbians, I don't know about you,
The thought of lesbianism has never occurred to me, not to talk of deciding on it. From the topic you brought up, I only believe decision is a major factor in becoming one.

Talking about what we can choose and what we can't choose, the weight of our decision will be known after its been tested and tried. The choice you've decided on will only make sense if you maintain it after it's gone through the fire. Some do it for money, some depending on the circumstances they find themselves and not because they desire it.

That's why Christians attach the grace of God to everything because they know after they've made a very sound moral decision, they will have to dépend on God to see them through since their strength alone can't do it.

God despises it but did not do anything about it, after destroying people at Sodom and Gomorrah, he didn't feel bad and remove every thought of such from the heart of man, but sharp sharp he scattered the people building the tower of babel with different languages, my point being that he is capable of stopping anything he doesn't like by changing the thoughts why didn't he stop homosexuality? Why is he still testing?
It's just like saying He should stop sin authoritatively, He should take away our free will.
There are rules governing everything. The word of God has to be fulfilled. He decided not to take away your freewill but there are consequences for every decision you make. It's jst something automatic, you reap what you sow.

Forgive me for still speaking according to a personal belief of "decision" being a major factor. Yes! That's how powerful the human mind is cos that's where our battle ground is - our mind. We are that powerful.

But I think we should be clear on this that God tests His children, those who acknowledge Him and believe in Him and love Him while He waits on the others at the door of their hearts to come to Him. The tests is for them to be qualified to the next level like I said earlier because we have to grow and not be stagnant.

I do not think God test those that ignore Him, He only do all he can to get their attention.

You guys love freedom so much so I don't understand why you want God to control you like a robot. God can only do that after you've surrenderred your freewill to Him willingly. grin

Even God work by His own rules, His word, that's how trustworthy He is. He said if we are unfaithful, that He will remain faithful for He cannot disown Himself. cheesy

So he knows everything but still wants to test us to pleade himself, arent you offended? If your friend tests you just to please his or herself won't you be upset? Why is God allowed to do so?
Sincerely I don't like it when I'm tested because it looks to me I'm not trustable and it hurts. But you know it doesn't stop people from testing each other because they are also looking for one to trust and rely on. But God's test for His children is for the good of His children also, it's a form of training, of discipline, of growing and of being worthy of honour. But come to think of it, why won't you test what you've created? Hmmm, it is well grin


If the ultimate decision lies with me then he is not the omini everything, he doesn't know what I will that's why he is doing so, then
Whatever you say won't change who He is you know, God has given you the privilege, use it wisely. You're in charge of your life and God wants you to use it wisely. The key to your latter life is in your hands, all He wants is for you to be awakened to that because He believes in you, He loves you. Do your part and God will do His. Let's stop passing our responsibilities to Him.


Exactly. If I take the test and fail and my time is up like the rich man in the bible, immediately I'm thrown to hell isn't that right? So he knew I will take a test, knew that I will fail, and still knew I will still be thrown to hell after yet still did it, why?, why create and carry out such tests in the first place, why not create people to live exactly how he wants? Abi we are just Guinea pigs for the testing, some may survive and go to heaven, some may not and go to hell, goodbye, take care and happy testing? Is that how it is?
If you were the rich man now, what would be the cry of the society towards you? Again, God doesn't test those that ignore Him but only do all he can to get their attention. Don't forget there are consequences for every decision we make and every act we carry out. Be in Christ and turn the consequences for your own good.

I hope he let's us know why, because until then, this thread is making a lot of sense
You need to surrender your life to Jesus, trust and love Him with all your heart, then you would have more right to know why He would test you and understand better. This thread will make more sense then.
Christianity EtcRe: Bennyann: Is This Another Liar Or A Case Of Eye Problem? by bennyann: 9:04pm On Sep 28, 2017
Ahn ahn, how can everything you do be reported? Everything?

You have barely 5 days left, it would be over soon. Don't get banned again.
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 8:27pm On Sep 28, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
It's the Lord's doing sister. In fact I'm tempted to go to church this Sunday because of this testimony.


I also feel like screaming seven Hallelujahs right now.
I'm mightily touched. The spirit is all over me.
Funny enough, I'm not the type who give testimonies but this is one weird one.

I'm so touched you're happy for me. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 8:24pm On Sep 28, 2017
Daviddson:
Glory be to God. I strongly feel that was an angelic intervention.
You too cheesy

Glory to God dear, thanks
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 8:23pm On Sep 28, 2017
analice107:
Psalm:91: 11-12
For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.


Exodus:23:20
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

Our little services to God speaks when there's crisis.

I believe 100% he was an Angel.
Thank sis. Even now, I'm perplexed. The more I try to playback, the more it gets so complicated.

At this point I join the believers to go with the bolded. grin I'm convinced.
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 8:19pm On Sep 28, 2017
SoapAndSponge:
Aren't you contradicting yourself, sweet Benny, eh?
That's the way it seem and that's because I have to be grateful for life too. But seriously nothing freaks me about this life. My concern is for those around me to be comfortable and at peace.
Christianity EtcRe: God Is Testing You? What Nonsense. by bennyann: 3:37pm On Sep 27, 2017
Daeylar:
Exactly, this always pissed me off, let me use homosexuals as an example. why create someone to be a homosexual or a bisexual and then throw the person in "hell" for being an homosexual? Then say you gave the person a chance to repent, which kin nonsense mind games be that, If you didn't create the person as one he wouldn't have had to repent in the first place.
why create problems for people then say you were testing them? This is the same person that said in
Luke 4:16 and Matthew 4:7 that no one should test him, but he wants to test people.

I feel like I'm sinning by pointing this out

Where are the Christians? Any response to these statements, I want to learn
Just as some do not believe God exist, so also I do not believe that anyone is born gay. I realize it's all a decision.

Just as some decide to masturbate, have sex with animals, any objects, some even do so with kids just to gratify their sexual desires or lust. It's all a personal decision.

Forgive me but I do not care whether there are scientific theories and facts backing up claims of gays so as to please their beliefs. In this specific areas I do not believe them personally.

I do not know how God protected me by still keeping me intact sexually, but I do remember how some ladies try to break me around my private parts when I was still a child because my mum do go about her business then. So I've learnt never to leave our kids in the trust of another be it relatives or not. It's by God's grace some children are still morally sound.

It would be my decision if I want to be a prostitute, if I want to please both sexes. It would be one's decision to try both sexes and get to know the one that pleases you most. I believe a lesbian can be bisexual if she wants to, a homosexual can be bisexual if he wants to. Anyone can be if they desire it. So I find it funny when anyone blame it on science or creation.

There are friends around trying to lure one into any of these but it depends on you as a person. But as Christians, there are rules guiding us and normally we are to have these strong hatred for such acts since our God despise them. If you do not hate the act as a Christian, then you have to watch yourself, go back on your knees and and ask God to renew His spirit in you.

Suddenly everyone has gotten a voice. It's now they remember they were born homosexuals. It's now they discovered they are lesbians by nature all because someone who decided to live like that gave them a voice.

There is nothing wrong if God test us to please Himself because He is God. It seems no one understand the meaning of God yet but one thing I do know is that God tests His children to bring glory to His name, to encourage others, to make us know Him better and trust Him more.,to grow in Him and easily help others come to know God more. It all points back to our individual decisions. Whether God knows you would pass the test or not, He just can't stay idle not doing anything to encourage you to pass since the ultimate decision lies with you.

Let's remember God testing you doesn't mean you're the only focus. The enemy is there to know the outcome, followers are there to see if they would be encouraged by you or not because we are living for others and not ourselves, the cloud of witnesses are also there to cheer us on. The test isn't meant for only you, just remember others are watching to be encouraged or discouraged from your results. God won't leave you the same when you pass a test, it is also to take you to a new level.

So if you want a new level now, pass the test today or you can decide to fail it and pass it tomorrow as long as you don't fail it when it's too late. It's all on you, the power lies with you.

When we know the reasons God tests us, then this thread will make more sense.

If God still test you while knowing the outcome, it means there's hope for you, He alone understands the power He has given you. It means God believes in you to break every negative results attached to you. It's just like asking if God knows you wouldn't give yourself to Him, why did he still send Jesus to die for you. Well, it means there's hope for you and if you should fail it, it's entirely your fault after all He's done. If I fail, it is my fault.
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 3:03pm On Sep 27, 2017
SoapAndSponge:
I'm alivegrin
grin
Being alive doesn't mean the living one is better than the dead one to me. Life doesn't fancy me like that though I'm grateful to God for life. But my focus and desire is in meeting Jesus face to face, at the end of it all. So life doesn't intrigue me that much.

But thank God I'm alive. I must fulfill the purpose for which God has brought me to earth by His special grace.
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 2:58pm On Sep 27, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
Praaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssseeeeeeee the Loooooorrrrrdddddd...



I miss this part of Sunday service mehn.
grin you ehn? But it wasn't funny o. I can't even describe all that happened in a flash

Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Today's Testimony! by bennyann(op): 2:57pm On Sep 27, 2017
analice107:
Hallelujah. May His name be praised.
Amen! Thanks big sis.

But sis do you also believe the one who saved me in a flash wasn't human? What do you think? He didn't even talk to me after saving me, he didn't ask if I was OK, he just ran away.
Christianity EtcRe: Bennyann: Is This Another Liar Or A Case Of Eye Problem? by bennyann: 2:53pm On Sep 27, 2017
OtemSapien:
Thanks for doing this. I was banned, couldn't reply earlier. I don't live in the same house with Krattoss & I won't.
You banned? For how long that you've changed your moniker again? Wetin you do?

Anyways, thanks for forgiven me. I really do appreciate it. I would be careful henceforth. Thanks
Christianity EtcToday's Testimony! by bennyann(op):
Hmmm! Where do I start from? Could have testified yesterday but for something beyond my control yesterday. I was also contemplating if I should share it here and I decided to So as to keep the record.

Yesterday, on my way to work, I decided to take one of those red buses, former brt buses. The journey was smooth until I arrived my destination. This time I had to exit though the backdoor which is very rare for me. But we were told to alight, meanwhile the bus was still moving. A huge man went ahead of me, I saw him stumbled but couldn't tell if he fell because it was my turn to alight.

When it got to my turn, I'm sure because of how "ajebutter" I look to people, the men at the back were telling the driver to slowdown, they were even mimicking me when I was shouting "owa o“. I relented for a while to come down until I realised the bus is just about moving past my destination then I made up my mind to come down. Just as I was stepping down, I heard the "backbenchers" shouting again don't come down now but it was too late then. I had already stepped down and I just remembered myself stumbling.

This is the climax to me, it is the strangest experience that I still keep playing it back so I could understand better and remember vividly but to no avail.

Within a short moment, should I say few seconds While I was stumbling, I saw a man rush in a hurry towards me so as to save me. He came towards me in a flight so to describe, as though he knew before hand something like that was about happening. He just held on to me, and there was this force so great I sensed, I do not know if it was a force from my end or his but it made us fall to the ground and slipped, then tumbled. I could tell his person would be hurt because while we were falling and slipping and tumbling or about tumbling, he didn't care for himself but held me in the most uncomfortable way for him so as to prevent me from hurting. The next thing I remember vividly was while I was about falling facewards to the ground, he made sure I fell on him and put his palm on my chest as if trying to prevent me from hitting my face on the ground and hurting my face on his head or body. I could just tell that whatever he did was for my own protection at the expense of his. I couldn't tell if the bus stopped eventually but I could tell the passengers were looking and screaming.

Immediately it was noted I was saved, just after the man stopped me hitting my face, he just safely put me aside and I saw him ran towards the direction of the bus but didn't see him entering. It all happened in a flash that I couldn't tell where he came from and where he went to. I couldn't see his face too but I can remember I saw a part of his forehead but that's all I can remember about him.

I'm still wondering how a human can save somebody like that and still had the strength to run away just as soon as I gained consciousness of all that happened. I wanted to ask if he was OK, if he wasn't hurt and I wanted to say thank you but he ran away and it made me find it difficult to believe all that happened in such a short moment but I know it did.

Though my foot hurts from stepping down the bus, I could guess the possible outcomes, I mean I can give the worst possible scenario that could have happened to me. Like my knees hurting badly, my face being disfigured and the possible likes. But even my hurt foot is far better today after being extremely swollen yesterday which called for my colleagues in the office to hold me down and then massage it before it becomes a serious issue.

At first when I told my colleagues, they saw it as no issue since they believe I make a mountain out of a mole hill because they also see me as "ajebor" until thy saw me limping and then they saw my foot as it swells from time to time before they took it serious. They even teased me that I won't be able to catwalk again grin. I had to leave the office early so as to have a perfect opportunity to care for my foot so as not to let it worsen.

My dad just helped me with the use of hot water on the foot this morning before leaving for work. I have decided to take a leave from work today, though I feel quite better and nothing bad with my foot. Tomorrow by God's grace, it should be perfectly normal.

Many I told the story believe the man who came to my rescue was an angel.

I thank God for the man who rescued me at the expense of his life because where I stopped can said to be a scanty place where you don't expect anyone to be there waiting for a bus or so. I also want to thank God for the man that helped me get to the bridge because I wasn't opportuned to thank him also. May God reward them for me and above all, I give all the praise to my God and king because He knows He is the reason I am living. Thank you Jesus, may your purpose for me come to pass and bring honour and glory to your name, Amen!

Please, You're free to share your today's Testimony on this thread also.
Christianity EtcRe: . by bennyann: 1:24pm On Sep 24, 2017
analice107:
Who finds who? You or her?


Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.
Proverbs:18:22

According to the Holy Spirit speaking through Solomon here, you ought to find her by His leading, how come she is the one to find you? Are you trying to turn the scriptures to suit you?

Talk about arrogance.
grin happy Sunday sis.

I don't think it's arrogance on his part. I believe he sees them all as non humans that's why grin

He is now bringing the bar low because he's finding it difficult to get a Christian human grin So please help him with advice
Christianity EtcRe: . by bennyann: 1:20pm On Sep 24, 2017
MhizzAJ:
I laugh
U've rightly turned down so many women even those from rich homes

Non humans re coming for u
grin
Christianity EtcRe: . by bennyann: 1:17pm On Sep 24, 2017
Well, the way you see others is the way they will also see you. Even when you get married, you need to purify your thoughts so as to enjoy your marriage.

OP, let Christ reflect first in your attitude, speech and in your thoughts and reasoning, then it would be easier to find a "human" and not "non human" grin


What's holding you back and stopping you from finding her is because of "fear" of non humans which you've created.

Once you've killed that fear and let love, power and sound mind in Christ take over then you've won the battle.
Christianity EtcRe: . by bennyann: 1:11pm On Sep 24, 2017
Tosinex:
Broda go and do your homework and stop searching for women up and down on the Internet, it does not dignify the person you talked you are and that's if truly you are and not just raising shoulders. I could remember clearly he says "call unto me and I will answer you and show you great and mighty things you know not - Jeremiah 33:3. stop playing pity-party and waiting for marital applications from women on the Internet, it doesn't speak well of you as a man, even through such you can be deceived, so why making yourself vulnerable for the enemy.. Get up and be a man, and go look for her, rather than waiting for her to find you, on the Internet. smh.
grin
Gosh! I almost missed this thread.
Christianity EtcRe: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by bennyann: 12:46pm On Sep 24, 2017
KxngKrypt:
If Christians feel the need to reply, attack or point fingers. What makes you any different from the muslims you chastise? Isnt that hypocritical?
For ordinary reply? Na wa o

Christians should turn to zombie, don't even try to talk for the sake of the brethren especially those still being fed with milk according to the above quote. undecided

Seriously, we need to be Schooled on the definition of hypocrisy.
Christianity EtcRe: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by bennyann: 12:24pm On Sep 24, 2017
generaliy:
I was thinking of doing a counter thread too to dispel the brazen, illogical, senseless lies, all without the option of rebuttal as you're expected to deny Christ before commenting on a Muslim thread, how pitiful, it is well with Seun and his policies.

If youths are this bias on religious issues, what happens if Seun becomes the president of Nigeria? Ban Christianity and let Islam thrive? So much for a self acclaimed Atheist
Seun you see your life at outside? Your integrity is at stake.

If you're being controlled on your own forum, then we can't rely on you. We can't trust you. At least even if you've decided not to be yourself because you are being controlled by some powers, do it with fairness so the inner part of you doesn't seem to be compromised while still maintaining your power or integrity.

Anyways, thanks for not banning me the last time. I'm sure you got my points.

alBHAGDADI, great job but you know it's still not a fair forum since the ones who are hiding in their private room to gossip us can still pollute this thread due to their imposed powerless power.

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