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"When greater amounts of divine love come in, we must give out greater service." --Harold Klemp

Thoughts are things, and it is important to keep our thoughts of a spiritual nature, to put attention on living a life that is a clear step toward growth.
—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

How do you keep in step with the spiritual laws—and lessen the wear and tear upon yourself? Simply love.
—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

"Every problem contains a solution. The key is self-discipline and surrender of the mental habits to the Holy Spirit." --Harold Klemp

"Divine love is not something you can talk about, but it is something that you can demonstrate as you live." --Harold Klemp

@ manikal

Well spoken. Full mergence into the ECK is the goal. But to gain the Self or Atman , the lower self or ego has to willingly surrender - aka change its perception about itself.
chanting HU brings about peace of mind BUT does not tackle the real problem of wrong thinking.

It sure does. but it is a gradual process and not an overnight thing.

I can chant HU for an hour and fall right back in the first minute after meditation into negative states of worry and fear which are just manifestations of the ego perception.

In the beggining when you start singing the HU,the light and sound starts flooding your inner being. the little self or ego goes into a state of rebellion and will throw all obstacles into your way as it does not want to relinquish it's control over you.

so it keeps throwing up such negative states to discourage you and make you feel that you are not making progress but in real effect,you are making tremendous progress.
the trick is not to pay attention to your faults and wrongdoings but rather to concentrate on your strengths. this makes use of the Law of Attention which states that whatever Soul focuses its attention on, that it will become. if you focus your attention on your faults and wrongdoings, it will keep manifesting in you but rather focus your attention on the positive virtues you already have and it will grow in you till there will come a time that there will be no more space for the negative current to occupy in you.

the key is consistency in singing the HU. keep singing it at all times within you throughout the day and not only during times of contemplation.

As a realized being , man becomes naturally silent and STILL so he can KNOW for himself that GOD IS OMNIPRESENT and the KINGDOM IS WITHIN.
So in essence,the question i have is this - Is there any spiritual exercise in the ECKANKAR repository that deals with the complete surrender of man's perception? Because chanting HU in my opinion still poses one biiiiiigggg problem - I still think I am I , praying or singing to an I that is outside of myself.

definitely not. the sound of the HU is the Divine sound of God. singing it is actually bringing your whole being into harmony with the divine essence. It gradually raises your vibration to that of the ECK. as you know, within the Holy Spirit, The ECK, you live, move and have your being. one of the virtues that will help you a lot is patience.

Try to relax and take it one step at a time. There is no hurry on the Journey back to God and as you know you have been on this journey for millions of life times. you can not expect habits and passions picked up over eons of lifetimes to just go away in one or two months of singing the HU. the key as i said before is to keep singing and keep looking out for the manifestation of the Holy Spirit in your inner worlds which can be seen as a Light and heard as a Sound.

just keep trying

Remain blessed

When you work with the fullness of heart, the golden heart, you find things are being done right you never realized were being done right. This occurs when there is balance and you have the perception to see the true value of things that come into your life.
—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ manikal

Hey benodic , great job.

thanks

I have to ask though , if the ECK is the only truth and every other manifestation [ego] is false , why is the teaching of ECKANKAR not directed to losing the entire self or ego?

ECK simply means The Holy Spirit, the pure essence of God. it is God in expression and is indeed the repository of all truth. the Teaching of ECKANKAR is geared towards becoming one with the ECK. for that is the destiny of Soul. and the process of becoming one with the ECK involves the ego and lower selves coming under the total control of soul. Soul through the divine grace of the ECK is now able to take charge of the lower bodies and the ego instead of the lower bodies and ego controlling Soul. A soul that has become one with the ECK will manifest the fruits of the Holy spirit which include charity, patience, contentment, tolerance, humility and kindness to all other souls.
whereas a soul that is under the control of the ego or lower bodies will manifest negative passions of the mind like lust, anger, vanity, greed, hatred, jealousy, envy, etc.

Why bother with cleaning the outside of the cup when the inside is still dirty?

you clean both inside and outside at the same time in other to remain in balance in this lower universe. the inner affects the outer just as the outer affects the inner. so the cleaning is for both inside and outside of the cup and not the outside alone

Why bother with the branches when the root should be the main focus?
The only salvation is salvation from reincarnation. Every other thing is secondary in my opinion

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soul is a multidimensional being and encompasses both the root and the branches. so all aspects of its beingness must be taken into consideration and no part should be neglected as all parts play important role in soul process of maturity.
reincarnation of course plays a very important role in the maturation of soul but soul still needs to decide for itself when it has received enough education from the circle of reincarnation and is now ready to start the journey back home to God. here the Godman plays a very vital role in showing soul the steps to take to accomplish this journey

Pardon my assertiveness. Would love to hear your views still

As soul, of course you have the freedom to express yourself. i will always contribute my little quota of knowledge as much as i can.
remain blessed

"God’s love is always working to help Soul find Its way back home." -Harold Klemp

"Our body is a temple of God. We must take care of it because it is a house for Soul."
-Harold Klemp

There's no hurry in the spiritual life. You don't go after God in the same way that you go after a promotion in the office. It's much different.

-Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

Mercy and compassion are two very important qualities, but love is the greatest of all.
—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

When we work from the Soul consciousness, we can shape our own destiny. —Harold Klemp The Awakened Heart

"The secret of a balanced life is to live each moment in the right spiritual frame of mind." --Harold Klemp

"When one steps onto the path of ECK, he is shown the reality of the ECK Masters."
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"The ECK Masters are agents of God whose only concern is to bring spiritual upliftment to each individual ready for it."
-Harold Klemp

"Is Mastership an attainable goal? Yes, one can become an ECK Master in this life."
-Harold Klemp

The tests that are easy for us are difficult for others. This is the nature of life. And it means that we, as human beings, must learn patience and compassion. The wheel always turns.
—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

True worship brings Soul closer to God on its own merit and never at the expense of someone else
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The Drumbeat Of Time,
Mahanta's Transcript, Book 10

@ Running204

@benodic
Can u throw more light with regards to hellfire? I have come to refuse,I mean I don't believe in hell and heaven. I have this thing in me that man is made to keep reincarnating, until he acquires that status of god.

heaven and hell are not actually geographical locations. they are states of consciousness. when within you lies a heart filled with love, happiness and goodwill, you are already in heavenly state of consciousness and no matter the kind of place you find yourself, you can not be affected because you can only give out love and even if the place is hellish, there will a drive in you to make it better because that is the state of your consciousness and of course when you translate and leave this physical plane you will naturally gravitate to the inner plane that corresponds to your state of consciousness.

on the other hand, a heart filled with hatred,jealousy, anger is already in hell and even if you put that person in a heavenly and beautiful environment he will strive to cause chaos and injury to others there in order to reflect his state of consciousness. and of course when such a person dies he will gravitate to the place in the inner planes that are filled with chaos and people like him.

in terms of the inner planes, you have to understand a bit of spiritual geography.
the inner planes are divided into 2 grand divisions. the higher pure inner planes and the lower inner planes.
in the pure inner planes, there is unity. no divisions there. you exist as pure soul there, no opposites, no male or female.only a heart filled with pure love can get you into those planes.

the lower planes are worlds of opposites. here good and bad exist side by side. here you have love and hatred, heavenly planes and of course hellish planes. these worlds including earth serve as school for the growth and maturity of soul. and the circles of reincarnation occur within these lower planes until soul reaches maturity to move into the higher pure inner planes to serve as a spiritual master and a co-worker with God.
he can then choose to come back to the lower worlds to help his fellow souls finish their education.

so that means that the hellish state of consciousness or someone who ends up in a hellish plane in the inner does not stay there permanently and even those too that enter the heavenly planes in the lower worlds too still reincarnate to continue their schooling. the circle of reincarnation only ends when soul is established in the higher pure spiritual planes which starts from the Soul plane and goes on above.

"The veil lifts gradually from our spiritual eyesight as we become ready to look farther into the spiritual realities."
-Harold Klemp

Those living the high spiritual life are the knowers, not believers. There is a world of difference between knowing and believing.
—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

"The ECK will bring you many right seasons for spiritual growth. Contemplate upon them."
-Harold Klemp

Truth does not operate in a vacuum. People who’ve been touched by truth try to express it in their daily lives: within their family, business, or religion.
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The Language of Soul

"Each activity contains within it the seed of a spiritual lesson." -Harold Klemp

"An unselfish dream, goal, or service can help us to the height of spiritual living."
-Harold Klemp

To let others have their freedom reflects the harmony and goodwill that is within.

-Harold Klemp
Love-The Keystone of Life

@ achidisucre

@ benodic
Tnx 4 de answers

you are very welcome

@ malvisguy212

you need a serious Bible lesson

and you need an open mind and an open heart. two very important ingredients for spiritual growth.

@ cyborg123

Now, why would the war mongering God inspire his own prophets to prophesy about Jesus as seen in the OLD testament?

the Jews whom the old testament is about do not believe Jesus is the one the prophecy is about because so far as they are concerned their war mongering god will send them a general who will liberate them from the Romans and not someone who will ask them to turn the other cheek. The Catholic Church were the ones who gave those interpretations after choosing the books they want to make up the Bible.

@ achidisucre

.Don't you use the Bible in your church?

ECKANKAR has its own Holy book called The Way of The Eternal.

2. Is Eckankar not a christian denomination?

ECKANKAR is a religion of its own. It is the path to Spiritual Freedom. The Religion of the Light and Sound of God. Light and Sound being the means through the Holy Spirit, the pure essence of God, manifests to Soul. example is the sound of the wind and the light that appeared as tongues of fire during the pentecost. Contact with the Holy Spirit leads you to all truth. ECKANKAR presents the truth as it is, removed from all social trappings, dogma, politics or traditional cultures and speaks directly to Soul which we all are.

3. Don't you believe in Jesus Christ?

We don't work with believe but rather with knowingness. we know that Jesus Christ is a Spiritual Master of the Christ Level of Consciousness and he is still very active in the inner planes ready to teach any Soul who have developed enough spiritual disciplines to meet with him in the inner worlds. Just like other Spiritual Masters.
The Spiritual Masters do not quarrel or compete amongst themselves to showcase who is greater than the other. only the ignorant followers who are under the influence of the ego do so. when you are able to move into the inner planes in full consciousness, you will see these things for yourself. and when you have experienced them, the arguments on who is right or wrong ends. you become a love driven soul and all you care for is to care for and love your fellow souls despite differences in race, language or religion. then your journey back to your true home in the abode of God truly begins.

When I was a christian, I read a chapter everyday from Genesis to Revelation. and starts all over again when I get to the end.
I learnt some vital lessons.
1. the old testament is the history of the Jews and not my history or that of the whole world.

2. the god depicted in the old testament is the tribal god of the Jews and not that of the whole humanity and not my God either. hence his sending the Jews to massacre other tribes and races who are not in harmony with the Jews

3. For the first time in the New testament, Jesus presented a picture of a loving God to the Jews which was quite alien to them as they preferred their war mongering god which led to them crucifying Jesus

4. for the first time too, in the new testament, Jesus introduced the Holy Spirit which he said will lead one to all truth and this was culminated in the pentescost when the apostles experienced the Holy Spirit and were empowered thereafter.

5. this now led for my quest for the Holy Spirit which culminated in my becoming a member of ECKANKAR.

6. ECK meaning Holy Spirit and ANKAR meaning The way. put together meaning, the way of the Holy Spirit

"Look always to the Light and Sound of God within you, and you will always sail the cosmic sea of ECK." --Harold Klemp

God’s love is always working to help Soul find Its way back home. —Harold Klemp The Language of Soul