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PoliticsRe: Goodluck Jonathan's Statue In University Of Port-Harcout, By Onyekachi Divine by BERNIMOORE: 8:28pm On Jan 30, 2017
kenonze:
Shameless.


Just take unbiased look at the scenario.

Bungalow Hostel named after a president... In his own Alma mater... In his own region.

Goodluck did absolutely nothing for uniport.

I expected a more edifying structure like Nelson Mandela Hostel in Abuja campus
give him the money for more edifying structure and he will surprise you, people like you can't do poo but then discouraged others with potential we call people like you "Abinu eni and keni-mani" grin
PoliticsRe: "My People Don't Be Afraid. They Can't Conquer Us," Gov. Fayose Sings And Dances by BERNIMOORE: 7:28pm On Jan 30, 2017
yarimo:
They will conquer you when your tenure as governor come to an end in 2018 grin
have you conquer Fani kayode after 2 arrest By EFCC Fani even became more vociferous than before. Only A COWARD DIES SEVERALLY B4 HIS DEATH, FAYOSE can't be conquered. "Oshokomole the irumale ton nje jjollof" carry go oga nla gbogbo Ekiti grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 10:41am On Jan 29, 2017
Gombs:
Na wa o...

So for example, King James version is different from the version of King James?

grin grin grin

Heheheheh
Here we are, it was you modern-tithe-Advocates that are Making a a case out of a mere phrase 'After the order' by twisting it to fit-into your pre-determined Modern-tithe-heresy for example you said 'jesus belongs to a priesthood order' relying on hebrews 7:17

But Hebrew 7, ‘DID NOT’ TREAT ‘‘AFTER’’ SEPARATELY, AND ‘‘ORDER’’ SEPARATELY (but as a phrase), .............

So (the phrase) ‘’AFTER THE ORDER’’ WAS ACTUALLY RENDERED USING (H1700), (using a strong lexicon);
Heb 7:15, 17
Psa 110:4

The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order (H1700) of Melchizedek.

That is JESUS WOULD BE A PRIEST “AFTER THE MANNER” OF MELCHIZEDEK; OR,

Hebrews 7:15
And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest (KJV),

And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears
,

THE MANNER OF WHICH CHRIST 'WAS APPOINTED' A PRIEST 'SIMILAR' OR 'LIKE' OR 'IN RESEMBLANCE' OF MELCHIZEDECK THE ACIENT PRIEST, AS A ;PRIEST-KING, COMBINING IN HIMSELF THE TWO FUNCTIONS OF PRIEST AND KING,

SUCH A PRIEST AS HE WAS. HE WOULD NOT BE OF THE TRIBE OF LEVI; HE WOULD NOT BE IN THE REGULAR LINE OF THE PRIESTHOOD, BUT HE WOULD RESEMBLE, IN THE CHARACTERISTICS OF HIS OFFICE, THIS ANCIENT PRIEST-KING, COMBINING IN HIMSELF THE TWO FUNCTIONS OF PRIEST AND KING; AS A PRIEST, STANDING ALONE; NOT DERIVING HIS AUTHORITY FROM ANY LINE OF PREDECESSORS; AND HAVING NO SUCCESSORS..............


Zikky Not much documentation of melchi's priesthood other than his name and his status as king of Salem. His ancestry, birth and death were not recorded, he is assume to exist (as priest) forever (just like Christ). Melchizedek priesthood is a representation of Christ's priesthood with the following similarities:

1. Melchizedek was a priest upon his throne, just like Christ
2. Melchizedek has no successor just like Christ (if melchi has no successor, Christ cannot be sharing same priesthood with him). To say Christ succeeded Melchi is to say the melchizedekian priesthood is one of succession.
I believe you understand the it's implication if you were to assume Christ officiates under this priesthood? the scriptures says Christ is a priest forever (did not succeed and cannot be succeeded by anybody otherwise it becomes one of succession like levitical priesthood
4 YRS AGO ZIKKY REFFERED YOU TO MY POST THAT I AM REPEATING NOW HERE;
https://www.nairaland.com/1456343/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles/17#18549521
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 12:18am On Jan 29, 2017
Gombs:
It's a no brainer na... It's the order of Melchizedek
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Nothing like ''priesthood order'' of melchizedeck but rather ''order of Melchizedeck'' order here means 'likeness' or 'similar'/ 'similitude'
Hebrew 7:15
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest
17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 11:49pm On Jan 28, 2017
Gombs:
I will tithe... Come and stop me. grin grin
nobody is stopping you and dont even make yourself so important as if you are the main topic of discussion, but rather tell us ''the order of priesthood that you claim that jesus belong'' that you relied on in teaching tithing and not voluntary giving
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 11:11pm On Jan 28, 2017
Gombs:
Figure it out
on page 15 this is what you said below;

Gombs:
But... Tithe is a tenth of all your increase. God asked for it.

It was clearly before the law... Do you know what order of priesthood Jesus is of?
You earlier claimed in your post that "Jesus belong to an order of priesthood" but failed to tell us "the order of priesthood" it is very important to this discussion because of the The strange claim that Abraham paid tithe"through that strange priesthood order" so tell us the"priesthood order" that Jesus belong Are you happy now!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 9:26pm On Jan 28, 2017
Candour:
So that's all you can say after rummaging through scriptures and not finding anything to support your stance? cheesy

See as I dey lookatew wink
Nothing to hold on, they are hell bent on cherry-picking selected tithe law, they are bent on misleading, but objective readers can easily discern their lustful greedy motives, kudos to All on this page standing by the truth, no one is saying that you shouldn't donate to the church but don't call it tithe because we are not under curse but grace
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 5:37pm On Jan 26, 2017
Gombs:
See why I don't want to discuss with you? You DO NOT have the faintest idea of this topic, why should I indulge you any further?
don't run away oga! You earlier claimed in your post that "Jesus belong to an order of priesthood" but failed to tell us "the order of priesthood" it is very important to this discussion because of the The strange claim that Abraham paid tithe"through that strange priesthood order" so tell us the"priesthood order" that Jesus belong or we assume that your heresies about pre law tithes superseding the law are mere ruse which you are not very sure of.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 11:03pm On Jan 25, 2017
Gombs:
So, now that the priesthood is in Judah, can you tell me what order of priesthood is Jesus of, and why?
please tell us what you mean by 'order of priesthood' of jesus and support it with bible verses if you are very sure of yourself!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 11:47pm On Jan 24, 2017
Peacefullove:
Lol @ bold, the guy is a joke
As you can see he is waiting for his Colleagues;joeagbaje Wordtalk, Snowwy and Co to come in, then he will be playing with words 'to wear down the discussion and eventually claimed that he won the thread' not neccesarilly interested in a decent discussion Anyway kudos to you guys for standing for the truth!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 10:44pm On Jan 24, 2017
Junia:
I read it but i wanna know the basis of your tithing
you think you are talking to a reasonable person, grin grin grin No! its not personal but These people have chosen a different way of life, you think he doesnt know what you are talking about? He actually Knew but Hell Bent Determined like those termed by paul as 'superfine' to ''present a lie persistently to such an extent that it will begin to look like a True'' Thats hitler's philosophy pls note that, stop treating people like Gombs as a normal christian No. i have engaged him and joeagbaje and snowwy for 4-5yrs now, even joeagbaje and co are tired because the last time joeagbaje featured on this thread was i think ten pages away, he simply left it for Gombs grin grin because they have all ran out of ideas but rather 'they will be making you turn round tables repeating the same thing to get you upset, just keep-up spilling the truth on their faces grin grin
PoliticsRe: Sahara Reporters Employee Stripped & Arrested By Police After His GraduationPICS by BERNIMOORE: 8:33pm On Jan 24, 2017
lovat:
The people that brought the Beast are now ending up in its belly.


Tuale Buhari
Fayose said it, they say he is loudmouthed grin
PoliticsRe: As Lai Mohammed Manifests The Lie In His Name By Reno Omokri by BERNIMOORE: 10:48am On Jan 24, 2017
NA GOD SAVE OBY EZEKWEZILI, SHE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE THE TARGET OF THE SO CALLED MISTAKEN BOMBING
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 9:21am On Jan 24, 2017
Gombs:
If you were smart you'd see my point.

How many times Abraham paid tithes? It was recorded once... Doesn't mean it was the only time.

Then I asked, how many times Abraham prayed? Aside Gen 20:17 and maybe one other place (not exactly a prayer sef), I haven't seen or read him pray. If then his prayer was once recorded, does it mean he wasn't a man of prayer, considering the life he lived and faith he demonstrated?

Point is the frequency is immaterial, and asking about spoils of war.. Did Jacob go to war before giving tithes? See, I've had several tithe discussions here and you these current crop are learners... Those before you have failed woefully... Ever wondered why tithe threads don't frequent the section unlike 5years ago? Ever wondered why others don't bother coming here to join band wagons with y'all?

I'd tell you what, only a negligible percentage of Christians on NL religion section don't pay tithes and that percentage includes atheists, pagans, and their likes and then your type.

If you don't want to pay tithe, fine... Please don't disturb those doing, you lot aren't smarter than the rest paying tithes... It is not Compulsory, just like nothing in Christ is "by force"

Cheers.
you are irredeemable as a confusionist, Abraham gave a tenth of stollen war spoils, Jacob vowed 'on his own to give a tenth part not because there is any compulsion but rather his own volition.That does NOT JUSTIFY THAT IT WAS A PRACTICE BEFORE THE LAW BUT RATHER IT IS A ONE-OFF SITUATION
Now bringing prayer issue as comparison is a Huge joke, because you twist anything to suite your heresies because i have been engaging you joeagbaje, snowwy, since 2012. many people have been liberated. I was waiting for you to expanciate on"order of priesthood" that you said Jesus belong but you sense that you will be exposed
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE:
Peacefullove:
And what does Abraham prayer has to do with the Simple question: how many times did Abraham tithe ? is it weekly and monthly as done in todays Churches ?



are u tithing from spoils of war as Abraham did ?
you just deflated his Ego and caught him like a craddle robber, his best way to treat issues is to make wild and irrelevance comparison to distract you, but. If you are stubborn he ignore you for a while then tag you with bad name, don't defend that but keep your focus then he will be defeated. grin Congrats grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 6:53pm On Jan 23, 2017
Junia:
Which scriptures call tithe a normal requirement ??
The tithes people are paying now is not even in the Bible ..
I dont know where they got it from
grin you actually sustained your points throughout, kudos bro!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 6:50pm On Jan 23, 2017
kolaish:
1 Timothy 5:17-18:Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.”
1 Corinthians 9:14: In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.
1 Corinthians 9:9-14: For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain.” Is it for oxen that God is concerned? Does he not speak entirely for our sake? It was written for our sake, because the plowman should plow in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop. If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we even more? Nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in the sacrificial offerings? ...
you simply ignored the last part of the verse where Paul says: 15 But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void. 18 What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel of Christ[b] without charge, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 6:33pm On Jan 23, 2017
So you can't be. Catholic than the pope! Simple
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 6:29pm On Jan 23, 2017
kolaish:
The levites were the tribes chosen to serve in the house of God and to offer sacrifices and solicits for the forgiveness of the sins of the israelites. Our pastor here represent those levites in our country. Some of them were chosen to lead the congregation and render similar duties just like the levites. So, I do not think there is anything wrong with that.
If jesus the high priest and head of church came from a tribe not worthy to officiate as priests that is "tribe of judah" There is no justification for pastors to claim that they are priest entitled to receiving TITHE. Remember That high priest Aaron was a levite so also all other priests then are all Levites. So you think that you can force anything as a precedence on the scriptures? Where did the bible says today pastors replaces the Levites, at least the Levites do not just act on their own volition but rather they acted on "a written Authority that authorized them in form of commandment "to receive tithe". Read below; HEBREW 7: 5. AND INDEED THOSE WHO ARE OF THE SONS OF LEVI, WHO RECEIVE THE PRIESTHOOD, [size=14pt]HAVE A COMMANDMENT TO RECEIVE TITHES[/size] FROM THE PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE LAW, THAT IS, FROM THEIR BRETHREN, THOUGH THEY HAVE COME FROM THE LOINS OF ABRAHAM;

14 FOR IT IS EVIDENT THAT ]OUR LORD AROSE FROM JUDAH, OF WHICH TRIBE MOSES SPOKE NOTHING CONCERNING PRIESTHOOD]
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 5:15pm On Jan 23, 2017
petra1:
Brother, There were over 5 translations before kjv came . So kjv was not the first bible in English . Don't condemn a translation because it doesn't fit your ideology
but why don't you quote from one of the oldest bible you claim were b4 kjv, challenge you to do that and show me where Jesus says"yes you should tithe" or forever remain silent!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 12:01pm On Jan 23, 2017
Junia:
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The law of love was there .. fine
Tithing was also in the mosaic law
In John 13:34 .. Jesus called the loving law a new law that He is giving
Do you know more than Jesus
He is actually God Himself
And if He calls it a new commandment ..
Who are you to say it was already part of the the law
Didn't He know
Why then does He call it new

Hebrew 8:13
By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE:
Gombs:
Is it that you don't understand English language?
meybe you need big lenses to show us that Jesus never said verbatim"yes you must tithe" so you need a dictionary to make a forceful statement, you be real fraudster
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 11:11am On Jan 23, 2017
Junia:
Did i say you should tithe ??
Im against tithing
And tithing is a law
sorry for that pls I mistake you for this swindlers. One love
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 11:05am On Jan 23, 2017
Gombs:
Stop deviating.
Abraham gave a tithe... Jacob did (obviously learn from Isaacs)... My point is its before the law.




Go study your Bible. Hebrews chapters 7 & 8
forceful statement, again why are you running away from telling us the "Fabricated ORDER OF PRIESTHOOD THAT JESUS BELONG" May be you fear being exposed again that is why you want to ignore it, all your abracadabra formula used to propagate swindling of hard earned money will be laid bare on this thread, so instead of telling me to go and study my. Bible why not show us the Order of priesthood and shed more light on the "order"
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 10:54am On Jan 23, 2017
Junia:
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The Hebrew and Greek words for “tithe” both simply mean “a tenth.
A tenth of everything is tithe
tell that to your gullible members! Freewill giving is the acceptable practice of the apostles
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 10:51am On Jan 23, 2017
Gombs:
Did Jesus condemn tithing?
going round the tables again, 42But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. DO YOU SEE "YES You Should TITHE" in this passage of the oldest bible? It was only smuggled recently by controversial scholars who wrote WEB AND NLT TRANSLATION
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 10:33am On Jan 23, 2017
Junia:
So what is the name given to what Abraham paid ??
King jalmes version sais he gave "a tenth part. Even though tithe defined 'tenth part' but that of Abraham never fit's into The Main Definition of tithing as instituted with Israelite law that God actually gave as order to his people to follow
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 10:08am On Jan 23, 2017
Gombs:
But... Tithe is a tenth of all your increase. God asked for it.

It was clearly before the law... Do you know what order of priesthood Jesus is of?
was Abraham tenth% to Melchizedek"an increase from his farm or income or a recovery of stolen goods by by pagans" AGAIN KINDLY TELL US"THE ORDER OF PRIESTHOOD JESUS IS OF" as you claim oya
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 9:59am On Jan 23, 2017
petra1:
Beautiful before the law . So likewise tithes and offerings before the law
the pagans do offerings true or false? But God chose the Israelites as his own special peoples a gave laws specifying a honorable way to make offering different from those that were offered to deities like baal, Ashtoreth etc, so hanging on sacrifices before the law which glorify other gods as basis to continue tithe is not only fraudulent but DEROGATORY
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 9:50am On Jan 23, 2017
petra1:
We are talking about Christ whom You guys said Never sanctioned tithing . Now in the face of evidence that he actually encouraged tithing . You now want to Lay the blame on the law
Christ never ever said we should tithes its funny how you ignored oldest bible translation of King James version 1611 and choose The charismatic translation of NLT that was produced in revised in the '90s by controversial scholars who deliberately change the Greek meanings of mathew
23:23 i challenge you to quote from oldest bible King James version whether the smuggled word "yes you must tithe" was never in The oldest bible what a shame. See the length you swindlers could go to justify fraud by changing original Greek words used in the passage chai
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 9:36am On Jan 23, 2017
petra1:
Tithing is an institution before the law . That's all that count.
when you cannot differentiate tax from tithes na wah for una just holding on anything to justify fraud sha! grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BERNIMOORE: 11:33pm On Jan 22, 2017
petra1:
It's an issue of percentage. Look at it this way .Just assume God had said take 10% to the priest and share a 5% with the widow ,if you look at it in that light it will be clearer . So if God said give 10% to him and he said share another 10% with widows . That doesn't make it the same thing. . The Jews gave 3 tithes .
Three forms of tithe SOLELY BASED ON INCREASE ON THEIR OWN POSSESION. so which Tithe predates Law? Even pagan Tithed before christ era, Tax were paid in Tenth % to the government then, jesus paid ten% of Tax to Ceacar, This is what Our Oversabi pastors 'phrased as Tithe predates Law' To Milk people Dry grin grin

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