Gombs:


Stop deviating.
Abraham gave a tithe... Jacob did (obviously learn from Isaacs)... My point is its before the law.




Go study your Bible. Hebrews chapters 7 & 8

kolaish:
Purify the thoughts of your heart please and stop reasoning negatively. I never said God has been good to me because I have been paying my tithe. What I said for emphasis is that "GOD HAS BEEN GOOD TO ME IN ALL AREAS, SO WHY WOULD'NT I SERVE HIM WITH ALL MY SUBSTANCES"

Gombs:


Same Jesus that was there when Abraham gave tithe and when Moses got the law? Really?

Jesus simply was speaking about the law not necessarily saying tithing was of the law... For Moses' law instituted tithing with many clauses. So, if the law is abolished, it couldn't have abolished what came before it... Would it?




I asked you same.. Was Jesus not wise enough to know the law didn't begat tithing?



He was talking to THE PHARISEES.. Do I need explain why they are and why Jesus refereed to their laws?




By your logic I can also ask, How many time did Jesus even attend a wedding sef? Or how many times did Abraham give offerings to God!

Point is, they both did the said event and NO ONE condemned it, the frequency is not a point for you just because it was recorded once... But you saw his grandson do same... Would you want to say they all did it once?

Didn't you see this in the Bible?

Hebrews 7
9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

In other words...

by the priests in his family (Levi's), Levi gets the tenth part from the people (Israelites) . But we can say that, by Abraham, Levi also paid a tenth part to Melchizedek.

This is because Levi was Abraham’s grandson. Levi was not yet born when Melchizedek met Abraham.


That's the Easy English Translation

BERNIMOORE:
going round the tables again, 42But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: [size=18pt] these ought ye to have done [/size] , and not to leave the other undone. DO YOU SEE "YES You Should TITHE" in this passage of the oldest bible? It was only smuggled recently by controversial scholars who wrote WEB AND NLT TRANSLATION

Gombs:

I already explained this...
Was Jesus not wise enough to know Tithe came before moses?

Gombs:


Hello.. Remember me?

I'm about to give you a heartache

Junia:


No

because He was yet to die ??
How can He condemn the same law He came to fulfill
After His death ... we were instructed not to live by the law because Christ has already fulfiled the law

Peacefullove:


Mr heartache, how many times did Abraham give tithe ?

Junia:


Did i say you should tithe ??
Im against tithing
And tithing is a law

Junia:

You are my fellow .. lol We are against tithe

Gombs:


I thought as much







But He let the adulterous woman live, even though the law was still active and He was yet to die.. The law condemned her, but Jesus Didn't... And he was yet to die o.

Your hypocrisy is outstanding.

Gombs:


Is it that you don't understand English language?

Gombs:


I thought as much







But He let the adulterous woman live, even though the law was still active and He was yet to die.. The law condemned her, but Jesus Didn't... And he was yet to die o.

Your hypocrisy is outstanding.

openmine:

that isn't wat u said initially...
u were alluding 2 all d good things that happened to you based on ur tithe payments...try and check out ur previous posts....

kolaish:
Who gave first? God gave me first and I am returning back what he gave in form of tithes, offerings and charity work. So, what is wrong in saying that.

kolaish:
Who gave first? God gave me first and I am returning back what he gave in form of tithes, offerings and charity work. So, what is wrong in saying that.

Peacefullove:


Your pastor = God ?

Junia:


No because He was yet to die ??
How can He condemn the same law He came to fulfill
After His death ... we were instructed not to live by the law because Christ has already fulfiled the law

openmine:

u only said tithes....
but Dats not my line of argument....I was simply saying ur tithes are not d very reason why u r successful or wealthy or safe or healthy....dat its by d grace of d lord all mighty....ur testimony can b likened 2 a winners member last year whose car was not burnt just because according 2 him,he went to Shiloh....

kolaish:
once again, we are different beings. Your ideology and perception of life is totally different from mine and I can not force mine on you and you cannot force yours on mine, we do what suits us better. My God has been good to me and I have been paying my tithe as usual, why do you have any problem with it? If you are not paying tithe and it is good for you, then go ahead and stop bringing negative things about the church to the media to spite christianity. instead, channel your problems/grievances to the right channel, meet the so called pastors and ask/confront them with it and iron out the differences with them.

Junia:


Do you know the purpose of tithes ??

kolaish:
FYI, my pastor is an example of good pastors worth emulating, for example, he doesn't touch church fund, there is the church body responsible for that. He has his own personal work that he do for a living and does not depend on church fund for a living. That is not to say that the pastors that are living on church fund (in form of salary) are not good pastors. The truth is that the bible foretold 'wolf in sheep's clothing' so, we should not be suprised to see fake pastors among the good ones, afterall, Judas chooses to follow the wrong paths despite being Jesus disciple.

petra1:


It's not true .He hadn't died yet when he talked about it .
. What you call a new law is still the old law re emphasized .

Leviticus 19:18 (KJV Strong's)
18 . . . . but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

Mark 12:29-31 (KJV Strong's)
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

He was rather quoting the old . But emphasized a part which included the rest . So the deed of the law are not wrong in themselves . But it is wrong to seek to be justified by them . You're justified by faith .

If Jesus endorsed tithing while he was yet alive and he endorsed law of love while he was yet alive . Why would you condemn the tithes and uphold the law of love

petra1:


It's not true .He hadn't died yet when he talked about it .
. What you call a new law is still the old law re emphasized .

Leviticus 19:18 (KJV Strong's)
18 . . . . but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

Mark 12:29-31 (KJV Strong's)
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

He was rather quoting the old . But emphasized a part which included the rest . So the deed of the law are not wrong in themselves . But it is wrong to seek to be justified by them . You're justified by faith .

If Jesus endorsed tithing while he was yet alive and he endorsed law of love while he was yet alive . Why would you condemn the tithes and uphold the law of love

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kolaish:
tell me if you know.

kolaish:
once again, we are different beings. Your ideology and perception of life is totally different from mine and I can not force mine on you and you cannot force yours on mine, we do what suits us better. My God has been good to me and I have been paying my tithe as usual, why do you have any problem with it? If you are not paying tithe and it is good for you, then go ahead and stop bringing negative things about the church to the media to spite christianity. instead, channel your problems/grievances to the right channel, meet the so called pastors and ask/confront them with it and iron out the differences with them.

Junia:


Why did you choose the WEB version

Lets go to King James for better understanding

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone

From here you can clearly see that Jesus called tithe a lighter part of the law
The pharisees and scribes chose the lighter part of the law and eschewed the weightier part of the law
And Jesus said they should do both

Did Jesus say Christians should tithe

Why didnt He tell His disciples to tithe but the pharisees

Abrahams tithe was from war booty
How many times did he even tithe ??
Is it not only once
Why didn't he continue doing it

Cash was given as tithe only when the giver wants to keep his produce

No one paid tithe with a dog
We don't pay tithes with dogs

petra1:


Addition of what? Other translations? So which one of them do you prefer? Kjv or rsv

Junia:
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The law of love was there .. fine
Tithing was also in the mosaic law
In John 13:34 .. Jesus called the loving law a new law that He is giving
Do you know more than Jesus
He is actually God Himself
And if He calls it a new commandment ..
Who are you to say it was already part of the the law
Didn't He know
Why then does He call it new

Hebrew 8:13
By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

petra1:


For you to understand the passage and my point better.



Beautiful. He called it lighter part compared to justice ,faithfulness etc . I don't have problem with that at all. But he said to do all. He endorsed tithing . That's all that matter.

freshcvvs:


The one that came first KJV before NKJV that smuggled in some words not found in the previous version.