₦airaland Forum

DRealGeesam:
The wattage of the light determines the price primarily. And do you mean the full cost of the pole, lights solar panels controller and installation or just the lamps.
I dont sell these things, but i can always give you the market price so you know what to expect when you go out to purchase. Specify and i will give u the market price sir.

Yes the full cost of the polie, lights solar pannels controller and installation.

DRealGeesam:
When i think about it the paradox is just unfortunate. In the end a poor man would have spent tonnes of money within 10years without even knowing it. My barber spend at least 1k a day to buy fuel yet he has no car, has no big possession to his name. Things are good in developed contries to the extent that if you want to use solar power. The government gives you tax rebates, the power company pays 40% of the installation cost, when u are not using the electricity your meter runs backward and the company will pay you for every kilowatt you added to the grid at the end of the month. Imagine all these benefits.

If things where good in Nigeria, solar power does not need batteries. That is why i said Grid-tied system cant work here.
In grid tied system. You use solar all thru when there is sun. Your system produces twice what you need, the excess goes into the grid, and the company supplies you electricity at night when there is no sun free of charge.
So u end up getting tax exemption, you get 40% paid for all the solar cost and yet it can even earn u extra cash!

But not here in Nigeria.

People using generators are cheating themselves anyway especially if they can afford the solar power system.

You nailed it on the head. The structure in Nigeria does not make solar to be competitive.

Before going solar, one need to learn about energy efficiency.

Any idea price for solar street lights?

NL1960:
Good and insightful lectures so far. The problem people see with solar is coughing out this initial cost. For the barber you used in your example, he/she considers the N1000 he/she uses to buy as daily running cost of the business. It is easier for him/her to buy his/her and leave on the balance than save N150,000 to buy solar batteries. This is where the crux of the matter is. In the developed countries, people can easily get a consumer loan to do this solar energy and repay over several tears. This is where the affordability comes in.

The ONLY reason why we consider Solar in Nigeria is the poor situation of electricity supply. So in Nigeria, solar/inverter is a PRACTICAL alternative to the epileptic power supply.

Solar currently is not cheap. As we see improvement in technology, the cost will continue to drop.

Most people say that after the initial installation, there is no cost again!

DRealGeesam:
IF you are talking about producing electricity for commercial purpose eg electricity for a whole state or country, then nuclear, hydro, wave, wind are all cheaper than solar and are more practical. BUT if you are talking about an individual producing electricity for himself, Hydro and nuclear are not economical or practical. You keep talking of battery. Is cost of fuel in 3 years more economical than battery with lifespan of 3 years? Let us be pratical, as far as producing electricity at the home level is concerned ONLY wind energy is cheaper and more practical than solar energy. I am not even through talking about solar panels, inverters and charge controllers, so wait till i get to batteries. I have not used a generator for the past 2 years of my life.
Do you know that as good as electricity is in the US yet solar power is thriving. These are people who can see in the long term. You are only looking at the initial cost. Do you know that even a barber with tiger generator will have to spend at least 1000 naira a day to have electricity for 12 hours, in 3years he would have N864,000. How? He would have worked 6 days in a week that is 6000 naira in a year that is N288,000 and in 3 years that is N864,000.
Half of that money will give his barbing saloon 18hrs of electricity everyday for 25 years, the only thing he will change every 3 years is his batteries which is will be a recurrent N150,000. Meaning instead of spending 288000 a year on just fueling generators, now he is only spending 50,000.

Guess what sir, IF he strictly follows best battery management practices which i will be revealing, he can use his batteries for at least 5 years (please consult google if u dont believe me on anything and take info from reliable sites such as backwoodssolar.com and the likes). Original AgM gel deep cycle batteries last as long as 10 years even with everyday use.
I will tell u y many dont enjoy their batteries when i get to that topic.

So my point remains, Solar is extremely cheap compared to generator. And as i have even said earlier MANY are spending good money in developed countries to add solar to their home supply even though they have 24 hrs of electricity, cos it is helping them cut the cost of electricity.

On this thread i tell people as it is no lies no pretending. Many have called me and when i tell them what is involved they say someone said it is cheaper somewhere i smile and advice them and let them be. Truth is solar is cheap when you can look at your economic benefits over the years and not just the initial cost as i said, spending 150,000 on batteries in 3 years and spending 864,000 on petrol in 3 years which is cheaper?

We are saying the same thing ooo.

DRealGeesam:
Whatever way one looks at it. Solar power is still cheaper than most other source of energy even with the cost of the batteries. The only cheaper alternative is wind energy, but u will need batteries to store the energy produced against times the wind is not blowing.

There is a reason why Solar is not the primary source of energy all over the world. Economics is the primary reason.

That said, in the Nigerian environment, Solar is a good option. People just need to understand that there is associated running cost after the installation. Battery cost is not 'cheap'. Most dont include it in to their calculation.

Hope the running cost of maintaining/replacement of batteries is factored into the economics.

twinskenny:
it depend..

do you have all the accessories on ground?
has wiring been done?
is it a dual view or a single view?

thanks

Wiring done.

No accessories yet.

Quote for dual view and single view.

twinskenny:
do you have the bell?

and whats your location?

No bell yet.

Oyo State is the location

How much is your dstv installation?

How much is your video bell installation?

mufutau55: This is the second time this is happening to you in few weeks.. You need to abandon this type of people.. How many times can you do this, with loss.
I hope they are not taking your gentility for stupidity.

Hajji M.

Well, something about communication. On site, you need to have standing instruction and procedures. WRITE the instructions down. For all you know, the man might be sincere in saying he thought he heard cream.

williamsm: we have the following plot available for sale at Royal Garden estate Ajah

650sqm 35M

800sqm 33M net at a give away Price

920sqm at 44m inclusive of all charges

for more information and inspection

contact 08063531327 or 07087503481

The 650sqm is more expensive than the 800sqm

Do you have to screed exterior walls and fence also?

topsy23: Lovely switch

Is that switch Clipsal/Schneider (Neo Series?)

If yes do you stock them? Any idea of the price?

hotmas911: not yet sir. But with the new road. Ogbomoso to ibadan will be about 40minutes drive

Do you have anyone not far from the new Oyo - Ogbmosho road? If yes can you give the price?

Tales by moonlight. Never going to happen. You dont deliver a power plant in two years!

Will it be gas or diesel fired plant? Where will the fuel come from?

hotmas911: I will do today what others will not do so I can have tomorrow what others will not have

Do you have anyone between Ibadan and Oyo preferably off the Ibadan/Oyo road.

spyder880: The tank stand is now painted a silver grey colour.

Spyder, how much was this tank stand? What is the height.

Spyder, any idea the cost per day for Masons and Labour/helper?

Spyder, how much do you pay the Masons and Labour per day? Just need the going rates.

bebe2: i think the quotation is for longspan,

he wants 400k for wood work alone

Na Iron wood?

Without seeing the drawings and the material spec it is difficult to compare.

bebe2: am so frustrated right now.

so they roofed dat house wit 1.4mil

and they are quoting me 1mil to roof (2) one bedroom flat.

pple wicked o

Maybe you are not using longspan!

For someone coming from Lagos the traffic in Ibadan is nothing.

The bottleneck is just by the Akobo flyover.

topsy23: Nice

Which brand is this?