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lapazi:I'm pleasantly surprised that for once I can find a knowledgeable Nigerian who is ready to dialogue and learn about this conflict.I appreciate your articulate and indebt response but I have issues with some of your take. Firstly the talk of apartheid does not come up in the case of West bank because apartheid is supposed to be racial segregation of people in same country.palestinians in the West bank are not citizens of Israel and they have their own government in the PA,both are separate countries and there are borders which had become very stringent in terms of checks because of constant and incessant terrorist attacks on Israel.,even citizens of Mexico that is not at constant war with the US can not just stroll through the Mexican/US border into the US.Now is there apartheid on the Arab(Palestinian) citizens of Israel in Israel?,you know the answer to that. Secondly,You were so m quick to bringing up the Palestinian Nakba while ignoring the Jewish Nakba.before Israel's declaration of independence in 1948 there was strong,viable and prosperous Jewish communities scattered all over the Middle East and North Africa,they were slaughtered, robbed of all they had and displaced.they lost all they had acquired for generations and returned to Israel and started afresh,no international organization was setup for them to help them like UNRA yet they overcame the obstacles and thrived. While the Palestinian nakba victims are still refugees after more than 75 years even to a 3rd generation and a UN body was set up exclusively for them so that they will continue to be refugees milking money from the UN. Thirdly the talk of Israeli blockade not making Gaza prosperous is utter nonsense,did you see Gaza before the October 7 attacks? Does it look like an open air prison like they said it was? The blockade did not just start in a vacuum it was after consistent and incessant terrorist attacks from Gaza on Israelis in Israel. Israel left unanimously and unconditionally the Gaza strip in 2005 taking along even Israeli remains in cemeteries and left them thriving green houses and other economic assets which Hamas promptly destroyed to make rockets. Gaza got more money in aid than the whole of Europe after WW2 yet they did nothing with it but buy rockets and build terrorist tunnels bigger than the London metro,ask yourself if the blockades was so effective how did they manage to get all the equipments into Gaza? Fourthly admitted land can not be taken through war but not when it is a defensive war,the wars that have led to Israel taking those lands where defensive wars, Israel was attacked and they defended themselves and won.If it can be proven that the continued retention of that land will help in it not be subsequently attacked then it is permissible by law.like the case of the Golan heights Israel will never relinquish it because of the strategic position because a loss of it to an enemy force will be disastrous. As much as 14 states of what is today USA was once Mexico but we don't hear Mexico clamoring to take it back or do we hear Germany clamoring to take back lands they lost to both France and Poland.The biased UN has not made any nonsense declaration to have the US or France nor Poland return those lands except in the case of tiny Israel,ask yourself just like Golda Meir said if the 1967 borders were so holy why did the Arabs go to war with Israel in 1967?. Japan lost more than 3 million souls to the US,100 thousand in a day to the US nuclear bomb but do you see Japanese carrying out terrorist attacks on American civilians? They moved on and they built an economy that is amongst the top 10 in the world..the Palestinians have remained stuck on the supposed wrong they believed was done to them continuing to claim refugee status going up to 3 generations now and asking a right to return to where you might wonder,they want to reap where they did not sow,after the Jews made the desert bloom they want to return,the Jews will fight to the last man. Nobody is against the Palestinian right to live in dignity like you are claiming but the Palestinian leaders themselves.the Palestinians have been cursed with perhaps the worst leaders in the whole universe,the country they are asking for now has been offered to them 6 previous times and every single time they regected it. The most annoying one is the one brokered by Bill Clinton at camp David where Gaza and more than 80% of West bank including east Jerusalem as capital was regected. I'm in support of Israel not allowing the creation of any Palestinian state because it would be suicidal having a terrorist state so close to it's border until a generation of Palestinians will come that wants to live side by side with Israel in peace ✌️ |
Icon4s:Don't mind the idiots, fighting with chewing stick and shooting haphazardly into the water.this people think we are fools to believe This their poor attempt of a propaganda video🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
heysquare:So in your deluded mind you think that Iran won against Israel in the 12 day war,your delusions is far worse than I even envisaged 🤣.. well..what do I say' Islamists and delusions are like 5&6, maybe you should ask chatgpt who won instead of parroting the lies of Aljazeera and your Arabic WhatsApp group chats. Israel is more than a match for Iran and in just 12 days it took out gains that had been made in decades and billions of dollars spent on their nuclear program killing top generals and nuclear scientists even on their beds in one of the most successful military campaigns in modern warfare while Iran was just lobbing bombs on random locations in Israel without killing even one general or making any military gain whatsoever,if Israel were randomly bombing like the Iranians were then the Iran would be bombed out of the map because they do not have any defensive capabilities like the iron dome etc and I doubt they even have bomb shelters like Israel does. |
Originalsly:You are an incredibly deluded fellow and it's funny you are advertising your stupidity on the internet for all to see may be because it's a faceless forum but I doubt than one could be so genuinely out of touch on a subject yet think they know so much on that subject. Israel is not interested in a land grab of Gaza and i doubt that you even know that Israel offered Gaza back to Egypt in it's Abrahamic peace accord with Egypt when the Sinai desert captured by Israel from Egypt in 1967 was returned, Egypt flatly regected having Gaza but took back the Sinai because they know how belligerent the Arabs(Palestinians) were and didn't want to have any thing to do with them that is why like you pro Palestinians refuse to acknowledge they have a massive concrete reinforced wall on their borders with Gaza. Also in 2005 Israel again unconditionally and unilaterally pulled out of Gaza taking everything including skeletons in Israeli graves because it didn't want anything to do with it not to talk of land grabbing it while handing over desalination plants orchids and other things that would make money for Gaza. It had the ability to develop into the revera of the middle east then but promptly elected a terrorist government in Hamas who used all the aids it was receiving to build extensive tunnel network bigger than London metro and buying rockets,yet in all this Palestinian failings you still find a way to drag in Israel. There's no denying the fact that this latest round of deaths,carnage and destruction on both sides was started by Hamas on October 7.🤪 |
Namigotalktru:Their ancestral land is in Arabia and all other neighboring Arabian lands they are not indigenous to that land but colonized it after the Islamic conquest,the land now referred to as Palestine was formally called land of Israel and the West bank was also known as Judea and Samaria before it was captured by Jordan and renamed West bank. This informations are readily available with a little research on Google,a little research would make you see the Palestinian narrative fall like a pack of cards,I really feel for them but they should just let go of this belligerent attitude and learn to live peaceably with Israel because Israel is not going nowhere besides we don't see Mexico saying they want lands that used to be Mexico but are now states in the US and other aggrieved peoples who had moved on for peace. |
Ever8090:Don't mind the dumbass 🤣.. |
God1000:And I also see a more stronger and ruthless Israel.. do any how see any our🤪🤪 |
Elusive001:Aswere Israel dey give me immense joy with all the gbas gbos dem dey give dis Islamists,piken wey say him mama no go sleep 😴 him to no go sleep 😴..Shikena🤪 |
themanderon:My sentiments exactly.. this herd mentality thing is so ludicrous..I wonder if they even know at all that as much as a million Israelis came out over the weekend to protest the continuing war and and the decision by the Israeli war cabinet to occupy Central Gaza and urging the government to take the deal with Hamas so as to end the war and bring the hostages and soldiers back safely. Infact do they even know that most of the victims of the Hamas genocide of that fateful day were those Israelis who believed in peace with the Palestinians and who helped in getting them medical care and jobs in Israel. Do they also know not all IDF reservists honored the call because of their lack of support for the ongoing war,so just lumping all Israelis together as baby killers and genocidals is plain crazy while you keep quiet to the atrocities happening in every other place. These Western useful idiots don't know they are just been used as purns,🤪 |
Salowise:Nor are they talking of the pogroms of the Alawites and Druze of Syria by the Islamist Syrian army,the massacre of black non Muslim Arabs in Sudan by Islamist militias,the killing of religious minorities in Myanmar(Muslims killing Hindus),the killing of Nigerian Christians in some parts of the north by Islamists,etc.. All because the perpetrators are Muslims and the victims are non Muslims,it is only worth mentioning and wrong if the victims are Muslims and the perpetrator is ISRAEL 😂 |
grandstar:Stuck to which silly agreement no where in history does a defeated army or group dictates terms except in cases where Israel is involved. If that's not anti-Semitism or just plain Jew hatred I wonder what it is. Lets just assume a Cameroonian terrorist group enters into Nigeria kllls as much as 20k and takes another 5k as hostages( I'm using this bigger figure considering the bigger size of Nigeria and Israel/200m - 10m) back into Cameroon what would Nigeria do? I bet you will not sit there with this your sanctimonious speech. You people really under-estimate the might of the IDF (do you think Jordan and Egypt became peaceful with Israel over night). The IDF at some point was engaged on 7 different fronts(which other army has the balls to do such?)if Hamas was a regular army and wasn't hiding behind it's civilians and Israel wasn't caring for the supposed innocent civilians this war would have ended by December 2023. How Hamas thought they could have won really beats me,what a coalition of several Arab armies and militias could not achieve multiple times and had their ass's handed to them is what they thought they could do but maybe this is what they actually wanted. For Israel to come out with full force so they can win the PR war which they are presently doing and are been rewarded by woke and pandering western nations with recognition. Israel shouldn't have taken that deal in the first place and I bet they will not take this one and if they do I and other discerning people will be seriously disappointed. You cannot appease Islamist terrorists,they see it as weakness and it only emboldens them. All the hostages at one tranch, Hamas surrenders and leave the Gaza strip or the war continues any nation who is against it should join the war on Hamas's side. Chikena🤪 |
Ezyp:Just sdfu already 😂.. I guess you have proof for this grave allegations since you know better than the US,CIA,FBI etc. This is the discrimination (anti-Semitism or simply Jew hatred) we are talking about, spewing thoughtless nonsense about a whole race of people without an iota of proof to back it up. Do you think if this conspiracy theories were true the US, Britain, Russia,China etc wouldn't know? So the Israelis faked an attack on themselves using Hamas which has led to the deaths of 90% of of the top echelon of Hamas leadership,more than 60k dead ( according to Hamas health ministry a propaganda arm of the terrorist group) and the turning of Gaza into a parking lot and Hamas didn't shout to the heavens that it was Israel who put them up to it. You people should use your brains na and stop regurgitating the BS talking points of Hamas and woke western supporters. Though I'm not in support of the sometimes over the top reactions of the Israel or the IDF the bulk of the blame should be on Hamas which most useful idiot don't admit. There will be no ceasefire unless all the hostages are released at once and Hamas disarms and leaves Gaza, without this the war should continue indefinitely..they wanted a war now they have to deal with it, previous half wars and premature ceasefires led us to this point. Bibi and he's government should not cave in to the Arab and woke global pressure for the sake of future generations of Israelis and even innocent Palestinians who just wants to live in peace. |
XXLDICK:Hannibal directive..oh please 😂,not this b.s again..The Palestinians have a right to resist while the occupying power has no right to defend in international law,what a dumb thing to say😅..well,we can see how well that's going for them..Hamas knew they can not win yet they started a war with a battle hardened people,thats why I'm strongly against any ceasefire until the hostages are returned and Hamas annihilated or driven from Gaza. Japan was nuclear bombed twice by the US,as much as 14 current states of the US was once Mexico,the UK is occupying an island that's Argentinian etc but does this scenarios warrant storming those countries and carrying out a genocide like Hamas intended on southern Israel? Israel is not occupying sh** they are on their land,there was never a Palestinian state and will never be at least in our life time,all this recognition don't mean a damn thing if the Arabs armies had won the war of independence in 1948 there still would not have been a Palestinian state. Hamas has since changed its charter(yeah right😅..says you),.. There are hard liners in every society and Israel has its own like every other country but that is not to say all Israelis are like that or share their ideals besides most of the people killed on that faithful day were those Israelis who were sympathetic to the Palestinians and who believed in peace with the Palestinians,but the Palestinians really never want peace with Israel ever. Hamas were going from home to home with a lists of people they had gathered from Palestinians who had worked in those areas in Israel,what would your country have done? The ship of the two states solution had longed sailed and will only be remotely considered when a generation of sensible and peaceful Palestinians come along and that's still way off besides the there's already a 2 state solution and the other state is Jordan,. We(I'm guessing you are Nigerian) both don't have a dog in this fight and I suggest you do a bit of research with an open mind not one based on biases or sentiments and you will quickly come to the realization that the Arabs aka Palestinians have missed a lot of opportunities to have their own state and are more concerned about Israel destruction instead. This your so called ethnic cleansing or genocide is the only one in history where the population of the people purportedly genocided increases,the plights the Palestinians are going through despicable as it is what people in war go through, terrible things happen in war that's why it should be avoided at all cost especially where a diplomatic solution could be used. The fact remains that most people who are pro Palestinians don't necessarily love the Palestinians or want their good but simply just hate Israel. |
XXLDICK:Just sdfu already 😂.. the same massacre they(Hamas) gleefully broadcasted to the world or you want to tell me you didn't hear of the Hamas terrorist on the day of the attack on southern Israel on October 7 who called his family with he's victim's phone after killing the whole family, celebrating and boasting how he killed them and that he's mother should be proud and all the family were jubilating. As the Palestinians has a right to resist so also do the Israelis have a right to defend,you don't go starting a war with a stronger neighbor and then cry when it gives you the war you asked for,if Hamas had been a regular army I assure you the war would ended by October 20,what a coalition of powerful regular Arab armies and militias could not archive in 48,67,73 etc is what they think they a rag tag militia as best can archive. The stupid western leaders think the two states solution thing is a new concept and fail to realize it has been regected on 5 different occasions by this same people. The fact still remains Hamas attacked first and had been planning this attack for some time because their charter clearly states the elimination of Israel has it's sole goal. So the blame for the current war,the deaths,carnage and wonton destruction of Gazans and Gaza is Hamas. |
Difrent:Your delusion is staggering 🤣.. thank God you even admitted the land was barren,the Jews are going nowhere ever they are in their home the sooner you and your likes learn to live with it the better. The land was never the Arab's (aka..Palestinians),it had been every body's from the Canaanites,Jews,Romans..etc all the way to the Ottoman's before they sided with the Axis against the Allies and lost losing control of the land to the league of nations ( precursor to the U.N) who in turn gave Britain the mandate to create a Jewish homeland on the land of Israel(Palestine). You all didn't seem to mind when Britain unilaterally created Jordan from the 70% of land it was supposed to create a Jewish and an Arab nation..the same way France and Britain created Cameroon, Nigeria, India etc was the land theirs to create those nations? You are just being overly emotional hence you are talking like a raven lunatic,the Jews are not embedding any where they are in their ancestral homeland history,the holy bible and even your Quran(including tons of archeological finds) attest to that fact. The Jews do not hate the Arabs not when they have over 2 million of them as equal citizens who are lawyers, judges, parliamentarians,heads of central bank,serve in the IDF etc unlike most of the Arabs who wants to see them wiped out. Your rhetorics here has shown you don't love the Palestinians but just simply hate the Jews and want them gone,lots of people like you have resigned to the fact that it won't ever happen and you should too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Hosea148:The way you guys just quote figures and pluck numbers out of the air is hilarious 🤣..so it's no longer 60k but 80k?.. yes the some in the Israeli government has suggested that Gaza be taken over, annexed, occupied (whatever you want to call it) until a reasonable set of Gazans that actually wants peace and don't regard the killing of Jews and martyrdom as their lives ambition comes along,this goes to prove that there are extremists in both sides of the divide. If Hamas hard surrendered and returned the hostages there would be no need for such extrem measure even been contemplated. That's what happens in a war,did the allies just pack up and leave after defeating Nazi Germany? There is normally a time frame the victors occupy the vanquished so as for them not to pose a threat to them again..all this things have been happening since the beginning of warfare and is not just been started by Israel. Atrocities happens during wars and civilians bare most of the brunt that's why war is never a good solution to any problem but I guess Hamas didn't know that..read up on the atrocities Nazi Germany civilians including women and children suffered and the bliss bombing campaign on the city of Dresden in Germany by the Allies. |
Difrent:It's very obvious you get your information from watching TikTok videos and Al Jazeera news.. your so called Palestinians are nothing but Arabs who emigrated to the land of Israel or Judea (Palestine) there's no denying some precedes that and have been there since the Ottoman conquest of the land but they are nothing close to the Philistines who were European Greeks from the island of Crete while the the so called Palestinians are nothing but Arabs from neighboring Arab countries. Every archeological find continue to reveal the Jewish ownership of the land including your Quran which never mentioned the so called Palestinians even once but consistently reveals that your Allah has given the land to the children of Israel. Some Jews came from Europe but most returned from surrounding Arab countries where they had been for centuries after they were killed, dispossessed of their properties and kicked out. You can't be occupiers in your own land and insisting that they are will be going against your own Quran which clearly states otherwise. Your thinking that the Jews would just pack up and leave is so ludicrous and infantile to say the least where would 10m people(including about 2m Arabs who are citizens with equal rights) go and considering how they have been gravely persecuted,humiliated and even genocided it is highly impossible to even be considered as an option so this is why the Israelis fight so damn hard because they know if they don't they will be wiped out. The genuine solution to this whole imbroglio is how do this people,the Israelis and the Arabs (aka..Palestinians, who also have a modicum of right to the land) live in peace side by side?.. |
Difrent:There you have it🙆.. the real intent of the Arabs aka Palestinians,after making the desert bloom and turning the once mosquito infested land into a modern society you want them to hand it over to Fakenistinians who only know how to destroy than build. Well..it ain't gonna happen,the Jews ain't going nowhere besides they are on their land, guess you didn't know it was called the land of Israel or Judea before it was renamed Syria Palestina by Roman emperor Hadrian after violently quelling a Jewish revolt to weaken the Jews claim to their homeland. Protest and March all you want the Jews ain't going nowhere 😂😂🤪🤣 |
Kushites:Did they come to Nigeria seeking asylum? To avoid this hypocrisy as you put it.. simply stay in your own country and stop trying to enter theirs is too much to do? |
Ikaeniyan0:Oga shut Jo..where do we have the good police men? They should deport him back to Nigeria asap. He wants to run away after helping installing the failure we have at Aso rock🤪 |
GreyApple:And Islamistsl Palestinians consider Christians as brothers abi!! Ori e ti gbale🤪..we will rather support Jews than Islamists 🤣🤣🤣.. Support who you want to and leave Nigerian Christians to support who they want.. chikena. |
Bigchris01:Yo go explain tire..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I wonder why this much journalists are not in Sudan and somalia where actual genocides are happening.. |
sooperrescue:Oh..you are quoting the Bible now when it suits you,the same Bible your Islamists claim is corrupted.. please I want you to also answer who fought along side Britain in it's war with Nazi Germany in WW2? There's hardly a country that fought recently without it's supporters or allies in recent wars. You have allies and form military alliances and pacts for times like this..it's a pity the allies of Iran like Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Houthis didn't raise a finger to help their oga and Russia and China whom they had been hobnobing with didn't do anything more than just give useless statements.
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ruggedtimi:Bros don't mind these terrorist sympathizers.. Israel has been fighting and winning wars way before their alliance with the US.. at least give them their flowers na..they unilaterally attacked Iran's government and nuclear program not Iran's people or infrastructure per se, their jets did all the sorties and strikes that eliminated or the top ranking military figures and scientists. They only lacked the bunker busting mmunitions which only the US has to destroy the underground bunkers at the Fadow facility. |
basadenet:Ok..let them restart their uranium enrichment and let's see if they will not be bombed the f****out by Israel and it's egbon US. |
zinaunreal:Why would you see any point that I have raised when you are incredibly bigoted. Hate and cry all you want,Israel is not going anywhere 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
zinaunreal:Ode🙆..that is why you have allies..I wonder why Iran's allies Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad,the Houthis all stayed away and was afraid to join the fray? sorry..now I remember they have all been decimated and now a shadow of themselves 🤣. The nations of China and Russia they have been hobnobing with all left them to carry their cross and didn't help them other than just releasing statements upandan(I wonder who statements help😂😂😂). Why hasn't your Almighty Russia not finished Ukraine? Your stupidity no be here🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
dapadawee:Don't mind the Ode🤣... Russia ko, Russia ni. |
, was not just a case of "losing a war". Zionist militias carried out massacres and destroyed villages to ensure that these refugees could never return. This isn’t speculation; Israeli historians, including Benny Morris and Ilan Pappé, have documented it extensively. 